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Music theme days in a year

Hi everybody, I'm looking for days, weeks or months in a year that have music theme. For example, March 28th it's Piano day, May 25th it's Drone day. There's also JAMuary. Any others I've missed?

Thanks!

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2024/11/08
18:04 UTC

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Does Anyone Know What Loop This Is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJtQrgxxY_g at 7:18. This loop sounds really cool, but I don't know where to find it. Does anyone know?

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2024/11/08
17:45 UTC

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HaloWeak Choir VST Library ?

Hey, I was wondering if there was any information about the VST Choir plugin (and other VST) used by Haloweak (especially in the famous ones "Narwhal" and "Flow"). I really like the effect of the choir and I don't know if it's a particular VST or a special effect add over a classic choir library. Thanks for the help!

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2024/11/08
16:54 UTC

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I want to start making music

So I’ve been writing songs and sing for a long time on my own, and my dream was always releasing my songs and be a singer in the future. But the thing is I don’t know where to start because I don’t have any knowledge about how to make music or play any instruments, I just write songs and sing, any recommendations on how to start?

4 Comments
2024/11/08
16:31 UTC

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How to get better at sound selection?

I started taking production serious a little over a year ago I feel like I struggle with sound selection more often then not. I'm always spending like 10 minutes looking for sounds, but the sounds are all like synthy and I'm looking for something smooth most of the time, or just something to match the vibe I'm looking for. Same thing with the drums I always find myself using the same drums even though I have like 30+ drumkits, I can't seem to put stuff together and my beats are generic. I need tips and tricks to make my stuff sound different and unique and like what strategies to use to get there. Especially when it comes to putting drums together I always use the same hat, 808 and its just all generic.

6 Comments
2024/11/08
15:46 UTC

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Why or why not use a linear phase EQ on double-tracked guitars?

Hi, I’m a beginner and looking for some advice.

Let’s say I have a hard-panned, distorted guitar track on both the left and right, and I want to apply an aggressive low cut. Should I use a linear phase EQ for this? I feel like the linear phase EQ sounds more cohesive.

When I don’t use any EQ, the vectorscope shows a diamond shape. Now, if I apply EQ on the summed (combined) track rather than the individual tracks, things change. A normal EQ shifts the shape more toward a cross, while a linear phase EQ keeps it closer to a diamond. I think this makes sense, since a linear phase EQ preserves phase with a bit of latency.

However, if I apply the exact same EQ to each track individually, I notice a difference: using a normal EQ changes the vectorscope to a cross, and a linear phase EQ also changes it to a cross. Why does this happen?

Does this mean that if I want to avoid phase shift, I need to use a linear phase EQ on the summed track instead?

I’m still not sure which option is best. The linear phase EQ sounds more coherent to me, but it’s hard to tell which approach actually sounds better. What type of EQ do you typically use on double-tracked guitars, and why?

2 Comments
2024/11/08
08:47 UTC

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/r/WATMM - Free Talk Friday Weekly Thread

Welcome to the /r/WeAreTheMusicMakers "Free Talk Friday" Thread! Feel free to talk about anything and everything - This is a text-only thread, but otherwise anything goes!

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2024/11/08
06:01 UTC

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Performing Live from Logic Session — how to lower latency on live vocals?

I’m performing live from a Logic session. Just my bounced backing tracks, a vocal channel with input monitor turned on, and a MIDI channel to automate stops after each song.

I’ve noticed in recordings of my performance that my vocals have latency issues. Any ideas on how I can lower this latency? 

Session images: https://postimg.cc/gallery/7y2Kndq/0b69df8d

All runs out to a Scarlett 4i4, then to front of house. Vocals go through a wireless Shure XLS mic.

On the vocal track:

  • Noise Gate (stock)
  • Waves Tune Real-Time
  • Vulf Compressor
  • Channel EQ (stock)
  • Tape Delay (stock)
  • Bus sends to Space Designer (stock)
5 Comments
2024/11/08
01:19 UTC

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I want to start writing my own lyrics and singing

I'm a 28 year old guitarist who's been playing since I was 13. I grew up on '90s music bands like Green Day and Foo Fighters and got into pop-punk bands as a teenager. At Around 18, I shifted to heavier metal, like Slipknot and A Day to Remember, and for the past decade, I’ve been in and out of metalcore bands.

Now, after my band of five years recently split up, I'm ready for something new. Lately, I’ve felt drawn back to the music I grew up on, and I'm inspired to pull a “Dave Grohl” by writing and recording an album on my own anonymously, like he did with the first Foo Fighters record. I guess I just want to swap my 7-string in Drop F for a standard E tuned guitar and go back to my roots. 😂

Here's the challenge: While I’ve always been the main instrumental writer, guitar, bass, and even programming drums. I’ve never done vocals or written lyrics, and I can’t sing and play at the same time.

I feel like I have little to say lyrically and want to avoid clichés and forced rhymes, which feel too predictable. Plus, I’m not sure how to approach singing, let alone singing while playing guitar.

Do you have any advice? I’m confident in my guitar skills and could write the instrumental side of alternative rock, but lyric writing and vocals are completely new for me. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

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2024/11/07
22:52 UTC

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How can I get my vocals to sound like this?

I love the crisp distorted vocals on this track and I'm wondering if you guys can direct me to the proper plug ins and what not to help me get this sound. I use FL studio i'm pretty novice to the mixing game i have the antares suite of plug ins at my disposal.

thank you!

Tony Velour - PULL UP ft. Dylan Brady (Official Music Video)

4 Comments
2024/11/07
18:35 UTC

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/r/WATMM Weekly Gear Thread

Welcome to the /r/WeAreTheMusicMakers Weekly Gear Thread! This is the place to ask what item, program, or service you should buy or use. It is also a great place to get help using your equipment if you are confused about something you found in the manual or in an online tutorial. This thread is active for one week after it's posted, at which point it is automatically replaced.

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3 Comments
2024/11/07
16:00 UTC

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How can I get the synth sound from David Bowie's "Dead Man Walking"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CXnnjAXG0Q

Just a notion off the top of my head, it sounds like a 90's dance synth. Like a Yamaha or something, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was DAW. I really want to get a sound like this for a current track I'm working on. What do you call this type of modulation? I use Ableton, and I own a Casio CZ-1000 which I also use for my MIDI.

It doesn't have to be the exact same sound, but that would be sweet

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2024/11/07
14:12 UTC

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Dynamite DM1 stopped working with Shure SM7B and Audient EVO 4, replacement does not work either

I have a setup consisting of a Shure SM7B, Audient EVO 4, and a Dynamite DM1 stick hooked up to my PC. Everything worked great for a few weeks, then found earlier this week my audio was completely dead. Removing the DM1 from the flow fixed everything, just really quite audio as expected without a pre-amp. Got a replacement DM1, same exact issue. Everything else works perfect without the stick, so I don't know what else to look at, I can't believe I got a dead replacement?

3 Comments
2024/11/06
22:31 UTC

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How to sidechain sub frequencies (without spending $$$)

Can anyone recommend a free or affordable way to do this: https://youtu.be/wqb2o8fj4-E?si=kvbmA7fuOffzXjgf&t=191 ? I tried using logic's multipressor but I wasn't getting the results I wanted (if someone knows a way let me know). I will probably get the fabfilter bundle when it next goes on sale but in the meantime I'd like to know if there are any other ways?

11 Comments
2024/11/06
20:19 UTC

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Weekly Quick Questions Thread

Welcome to the /r/WeAreTheMusicMakers Weekly Quick Questions Thread! If you have general questions (e.g. How do I make this specfic sound?), questions with a Yes/No answer, questions that have only one correct answer (e.g. "What kind of cable connects this mic to this interface?") or very open-ended questions (e.g. "Someone tell me what item I want.") then this is the place!

This thread is active for one week after it's posted, at which point it will be automatically replaced.

###Do not post links to promote music in this thread. You can promote your music in the weekly Promotion thread, and you can get feedback in the weekly Feedback thread. Music can only be posted in this thread if you have a question or response about/containing a particular example in someone else's song.


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2024/11/06
09:00 UTC

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Help with bass preamp & interface routing

  • Scarlett 18i20 G2 interface with 2x inst/line front inputs

  • Ampeg SGT-DI Bass Preamp with XLR DI out, dry Thru out & Preamp out

  • Squier Vibe 70s passive pickups

I'm wanting to record my bass processed through the Ampeg, as well as a clean unprocessed signal (so 2x tracks at once).

My question is, do I use the Ampeg's Direct XLR & Thru Outs for this routing? If so, should either of the Scarlett inputs be switched into INST mode?

The INST mode optimises the input for gain & impedance changes, as well as unbalances the input.

When disengaged, the input is suited for line level, balanced or unbalanced.

Before I buy the cables, I would like to have this figured out. Right now, I'm thinking of...

XLR -> XLR cable from the Ampeg to line level Scarlett input #1 (INST mode disengaged)

1/4 TS -> 1/4 TS from Ampeg Thru to Scarlett input #2 with INST mode turned on

Thank you very much for any help!

2 Comments
2024/11/06
07:42 UTC

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Are there methods for a creating a "jam" feel by yourself?

I am very new to recording, but I have been playing guitar and writing songs for a very long time. My set-up is very simple: a focusrite, a cheap condenser mic, Reaper and the MT Power Drumkit 2 VST.

I have one particular song that I really want to record, but I'm having trouble getting my guitar part and the programmed drums to sound how I want. Specifically, the parts sound too stiff together and I want it to sound more like a "jam" where the guitar's strumming pattern and the drum pattern are reacting to each other.

I have tried recording the guitar part like I normally practice it, but I find that I am drifting off the metronome because the song has a bit of a swaying rhythm. If I really concentrate I can match the metronome pretty well, but it makes it more difficult to improvise the strumming pattern in the way I want.

I also tried programming the drums first and playing to the drum track, but I don't know how to improvise the rhythm through the programming of the drums. I feel like I really need the guitar to take the lead, and to simulate the drums following along.

Part of the problem is that I feel like the song might be losing something when both parts are so perfectly timed. I think it would actually sound better if the rhythm was allowed to speed up and slow down naturally, i.e. if the timing was a bit off like it would be with two humans just jamming and trying to sync with each other intuitively.

Any thoughts or advice? Is this just an inherent problem to trying to record this sort of song without a live drummer?

62 Comments
2024/11/05
22:24 UTC

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How to create this sound?

How does one create the sound head at 0:50 in Bon Ivers song Things behind things behind things. It sounds like a guitar with reverb and maybe a volume peddle and a slide thingy ma bob?

This is a very common guitar sound heard in most folk music and I really want to incorporate it into my music.

The song: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SKEMyEVoZos&pp=ygUrdGhpbmdzIGJlaGluZCB0aGluZ3MgYmVoaW5kIHRoaW5ncyBib24gaXZlcg%3D%3D

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2024/11/05
20:56 UTC

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Recording outside

Okay so I have a very odd question. I don’t have a treated room where I can record any of my music super well. I’m working on an acoustic album and having nature in the background (birds, the stream from a river, trees, etc…) sounds very cool to me. I live out in the country woods about a quarter mile from my back yard, therefore, I don’t have to worry about car noises or anything like that. Is this a possible thing to do?

29 Comments
2024/11/05
16:03 UTC

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I need help recording vocals

I am a pretty decent singer and I have a very good Neuman 87 mic; however, when I record, my recording always sound muddy and unclean. I tried to step away a little further from the mic but then the mic picks up all the room noises. I know this is kinda vague, but if any of you guys are pros at recording vocals and is willing to help out, shoot me a message and I can share more about my projects.

35 Comments
2024/11/05
14:09 UTC

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Hybrid drums FTW

Just wanted to share an approach that doesn't appear to be widely used, but has made a huge difference to my music production: hybrid drums.

TLDR: Recording acoustic cymbals with midi-triggered drums has upped my game to acceptable quality levels.

As a rock drummer and producer, I was having a really hard time getting drums to sound good. They are arguably the hardest acoustic instrument to record; you need good drums, decent mics, a good room, and decent recording technique. I never had any success. Using e-drums solves some of these problems but I always found the feel/responsiveness was terrible on hi-hats and ride cymbal (not too bad on drums and crash cymbal).

Solution? Hybrid drums. My set-up is recording only hi-hats and ride. Crash cymbals and all shells are midi triggers (I use an Alesis Sample Pad Pro). I use basic consenser mics (only need two) in a truly shitty room (tiny, rectangular space). Cheap but effective!

There's a learning curve on set-up and editing using this approach (happy to answer questions). If you want to hear the results see link in description or send me a DM.

Hope it helps!

21 Comments
2024/11/05
09:55 UTC

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/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers Weekly Collaboration Thread

Welcome to the /r/WeAreTheMusicMakers Weekly Collaboration Thread! If you're looking for help with, or wanting to pitch in on a project, post up your details here. Other threads looking for collaboration will be deleted and redirected here.

This thread is active for one week after it's posted, at which point it is automatically replaced.

##Rules:

  • No feedback requests - use the feedback thread.
  • No promotional posts - No contests, No friend's bands, No facebook pages. Use the promotion thread.

#Other Weekly Threads (most recent at the top):

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2024/11/05
09:00 UTC

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Audiobox 1818VSL Output Tips

Hello! I got an Audiobox 1818VSL a bit back and I was setting it up tonight. I'm running it through Ableton Live 12 and I would like to be able to run a single output into a in-ear monitor transmitter. With the Audiobox driver open, I can use the headphones output and get a stereo out. The problem is I can hear both Ableton AND the input DI with the driver open. When I close the Audiobox driver, the phones output doesn't work and the Main L and R outputs both only output a L signal.

So, is there a way I can either make one of the Main outputs into a single stereo output (I doubt it😂) or can I get the headphone output to work WITHOUT hearing the DI?

Thank you!

2 Comments
2024/11/04
23:35 UTC

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Gain staging, Compression and Automation Questions

Hi all! I am working on producing my record with limited mixing/mastering experience. The sound of the record is meant to be pretty DIY - it's indie folk (acoustic guitars, many vocal layers, a few other textures like percussion) recorded at home. In mixing it, my priorities are to make the sound as dynamic and full as possible without making it sound too over-produced or lose that DIY feel.

I have been having some trouble when it comes to dynamic range and making sure the song doesn't feel stale in this respect. After doing some research on gain staging, I attempted to gain stage all of my tracks so that when all of the faders were set to 0, the gain across tracks and throughout the song was pretty consistent (peaking around 9-6db). Does this sound like the right approach to gain staging? My fear is that I have lost some of the song's dynamic range by trying to set everything to a similar dB range.

From what I understand, the way to amend this is to use volume faders to balance, which I have been doing. Do you feel it is better to rely on faders + volume automation to make certain parts 'pop' as opposed to letting the gain increase in more impactful parts?

Another quetsion is how this impacts compressing. If I am already gain staging to avoid too-much gain, do I need to use a compressor?

10 Comments
2024/11/04
18:51 UTC

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Do you have any suggestions for homemade percussion instruments? I’m trying to come up with something unique that sounds dark and ominous.

Do you have any suggestions for homemade percussion instruments? I’m trying to come up with something unique that sounds dark and ominous.

47 Comments
2024/11/04
17:15 UTC

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How to proceed into mixing on a self-produced concept album?

Hi!

I would appreciate hearing your thoughts and ideas, as my situation is as follows:

After few years of making a concept album on my off-time in Cubase, I think I've managed to record most the things I need to record. I work only with VSTis and midi, no actual audio recordings have been made. The "album" flows from one song to the next unnoticeably, with tempo tracks and everything. However, I have recorded all the songs in different project files, since my computer had some trouble after the first 100 tracks. Now I'm finally willing to go into mixing phase, that I've also learned to do during this project. However, I'm not sure how to proceed. I have two options as far as I can tell:

Option 1: Mix every song to sound how I want them to sound, and work the transients and song changes afterwards in post-mixing phase. Personally, I don't like this option, because I would like to have a consistent mix and soundscape.

Option 2: Render everything to audio files, import them all to a single project file and mix the whole thing as a one thing. I like this option more, because I've used alot of same sounds in different songs and I have quite clear overall sound in my head for everything and I also have clear preferences on balance and overall vibe.

I would like to go with option 2. However, I am not sure how is the best way to do this considering I have the project itself split on multiple different project files that have been "mixed" (read: the balance of the mix and effects are there, but not much else). Should I just put all the faders in all the project files back to 0, disable all the fx and render out every track using a consistent level of the master fader? Then I could import all the tracks into a single project file, and just throw for example, all the pianos on one or two tracks, and balance and effect them mostly using automation considering pianos are quite essential part of many of my songs.

Ideas, comments, everything is welcomed!

3 Comments
2024/11/04
17:05 UTC

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Read this on Phil Lynott's wiki, what exactly is an echobox?

"Because Lynott did not play an instrument at this point in his career, he instead manipulated his voice through an echo box during instrumental sections."

When I Google it, I only get shirty Alexa's and stuff. I'm just intrigued by this echobox thing.

14 Comments
2024/11/04
15:34 UTC

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Mixing for mono tips

I’ve got a track I’m mixing in mono to release in mono to have that mod sixties 45rpm punch. I’m loving it to be honest but wondered if there were any tips on having the crunchy compressed drums live higher in the mix without them saturating through the fuzz guitars, bass and organ. I’m gonna try to eq them so there’s a fraction of the band width for each of the drums coming through but wondered if there was a sure fire way I’m not finding else where. If I search about mono mixing it’s just full of advice for stereo mixers starting in mono. Google doesn’t seem to work like it used to.

26 Comments
2024/11/04
06:38 UTC

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Help with live drum track

Hello guys, hope this isnt the wrong place to ask this but we just formed our first "band" with some friends and were thinking of renting a place for rehearsals, however we couldnt find a drummer so we were thinking of using programmed drums or a drum track. I have a um2 and use ableton live, ive made some drum tracks, however idk how to connect it to speakers, or like, how to do it so we can hear the drum track live. This place has a mixer, but honestly idk how to use it, i only use my daw on my pc alone when im making electronic music, so when rehearsing irl ive never done something like that. I'd be very grateful if you guys could guide me through it or help me on any way you can! :)

2 Comments
2024/11/04
02:26 UTC

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latency when recording vocals in garageband

i'm working on music in garageband and recently got gifted this very nice mic, the only problem is that there is really bad latency on the mic that gets in the way of recording anything. is there any way to fix this? im on version 10.4.8

5 Comments
2024/11/03
22:48 UTC

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