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Took a mediocre crack at my favorite album cover ever

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2020/11/03
02:23 UTC

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It's at like 2:08 in Contra I think

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2020/10/06
20:41 UTC

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Supermarket CD

Does anyone have the Supermarket CD that they have an extra copy of and is willing to sell or know anyone or a website that is selling it? I tried getting a copy but I missed out on it :( I know a lot of the RattPack didn't like this album but I think this album is SUPER underrated. I've loved Logic for so long and i just missed out on getting this album and im kicking myself for it. Any help is much appreciated :)

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2020/10/02
18:47 UTC

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Logic’s final album, No Pressure, gets released on July 24th.

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2020/07/17
05:03 UTC

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Please check out my critique on Logic's Everybody) (i know it has weak points feel free to show)

Critique on Maryland based rapper Logic’s third LP: ”Everybody”

“Everybody” is Maryland storyteller rapper, Logic’s third studio album which was awaited a lot and as is said “underrated”. 30 years old Sir Robert Hall II, also known as, Logic is a Maryland born and raised rapper, who is a biracial child of African American father and a white racist mother. Robert’s parents were drug-addicts which eventually resulted in the runaway of Robert from his home at the age of 14. After this incident, he was grown up by his godmother. When he grew up, Logic became a storyteller rapper who started his professional career in 2009 being inspired by people like Frank Sinatra and Quentin Tarantino (he dedicated several mixtapes and songs to these two). He is famous for his wordy and “I can barely breath before the chorus comes” (speed) flow as is called by Genius. Having a speed flow, he never omits syllables and his words are obvious and can be understood without struggles. Logic has released 5 studio albums, one soundtrack album, and 7 mixtapes until now. The third studio album “Everybody” brought him quite a lot amount of respect.

As he told in his interviews and songs, he has always struggled with being biracial with white skin. He was always been told that he is not black and has no right to talk about them while others said, “you’re black, you must do this, do that and et cetera”. In his nearly every project he talks about him being biracial. The album “Everybody” is not an exception, moreover, he defends the rights of everybody, whether a person is black or white, rich or poor, Muslim or Christian, LGBT member, or straight. What’s more, he speaks out the anxiety and mental issues on his album (before that there was unwritten taboo on mental issues). The album was supported with three singles before the release: “Everybody”, “1-800-273-8255”, and “Black Spiderman”. Even if the album was highly anticipated and expected to bring both reputation and financial success, it failed in the last. There are many reasons for failing in commercial success as, too long skits and bringing the idea is not a very good way, and others. So, I would like to bring some general information about the album and then eventually discuss its strong and weak aspects.

The album was initially expected to be named: “AfricAryan”, referring to his African background and the album was anticipated to be written about Logic being biracial, but finally it turned out to be about the rights and equality of everybody, literally, every single soul, and the album was named “Everybody”, reasonably. Logic tried to evaluate no only the problems related with the equality of every single person, but the mental issues and problems with prejudice, stereotype, and et cetera. The album has 13 songs with a total length of 70:58 minutes and was released by VMA and Def-Jam Records. So, as was mentioned above, Logic is a storyteller, so what is the plot of this album? The plot of this album is nearly a copy of **Andy Weir’**s short story “The Egg”. The plot is about the man named Atom (an adaptation of Adam in Bible), who is reincarnated unlimited times in the shoes of everybody in the world ever existed, being literally everybody ever existed, no one else ever existed except him and each time he does something bad he would do it to himself, simultaneously, if he does something good, he would do it to himself. This album is written about Logic being biracial and feeling all these inequalities amongst people, and with a purpose of spreading the following idea: “No race, no religion, no gender, no group of people, no age, shortly, no any person deserves to be treated unequally”. The album was platinum certified and the track “1-800-273-8255” also was platinum certified by RIAA.

The very first song of the album “Hallelujah” opens up with questions “Are we ready? Are you ready? Am I Ready?”, “Open your Mind” referring to an upcoming serious and hard talk and people should listen to this from an objective point of view, ignoring their religion, age, gender, race, social rank. So, what were the successful points of this album? Probably the idea is the strongest aspect. The most features for the songs of this album were gained because of the unbelievably great idea and the message behind the album. J. Cole, Black Thought, Chuck D, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and No ID agreed to feature on this album only because the idea was strong. It was revealed in the documentary about the album. Let’s breakdown this idea which is relative even nowadays. As is repeated above, everyone is equal. It is the main idea and the message of the album. The second great idea is “Life is precious”, this idea was brought mainly in the platinum single from the album, “1-800-273-8255”, where the artist says, talking about suicide is not taboo and anyone can call 1-800 number (the number of US national suicide prevention call center) if they feel close to a suicide. The Third biggest idea presented is mental health, towards which there was unwritten taboo, because of which, mental issues had never been presented on the mass media or mentioned by artists. Others may be the respect towards others, prejudices are wrong(Take it back), one’s life cannot be understood fully, until others cannot live his life and go through each day of his life, social media addiction(Killing Spree).

The next strength could be beats for the songs. The beats are interesting, attention-catching, and most importantly perfectly balanced in terms of rhythm and really enjoyable. Beats themselves make a listener feel what the artist feels about a particular topic. During some parts of the album instrumentals make you feel nervous (Anziety), angry (America, Killing Spree), calm (Black Spiderman), enthusiastic (Killing Spree, 1-800-273-8255, Ink Blot) and so on. This shows that beats made by 6ix (Major producer for Logic’s songs) were super successful. One of the main factors which made this album widely adorable is that Logic finally got rid of Kendrick Lamar’s style. Kendrick is one of the artists Bobby has been influenced by and consciously or unconsciously grabbed his style in his previous releases such as “Bobby Tarantino” and “The Incredible True Story”, for which Lamar hated Logic. But in this album, Logic as if he evaluates his own brand voice.

Due to the abovementioned advantages, and the fact that the album was highly anticipated, since it was supported by three singles, and several spoils in various social networks, album sales were as much as 197000 in the first week making the album to debut on #1 on Billboard 200. However, the sales were far not as good as in the first week. It turned out so that “Everybody” holds the record for the biggest sales drop in the history of Billboard with a drop by 96%. In the second week, Logic could sell only 8000 copies. So if we look at the reasons, we will find out pretty reasonable answers for this problem.

The biggest minus of the project can be defined with the quote of the famous Russian rapper Morgenshtern (adaptation from Russian): “Music is not the type of entertainment it used to be. We need music mostly as a background noise when we do something”. “Everybody”’s first and foremost problem is that it has too many skits. Moreover, each skit is too long, only the skit “Waiting room” lasts for nearly 5 minutes. But Logic has added skits into nearly half of the tracks. Modern listener prefers his playlist to be without skit, die to skits do not have music and cannot be a background noise. The skit “Waiting room” is both interesting and the most pushing away record on the album. There is too much information and philosophy. «Waiting room” is the skit, where the protagonist of the album, Atom talks to God about reincarnation after his death on the road. Even though, we can listen to the main message, “Every time you hurt someone, you hurt yourself and the same when you help others. The reason is we are all actually small parts of the whole matter of God”, in this skit, it makes the album boring.

Secondly, time-release the project was chosen incorrectly. It was released on May 5th, just a couple of weeks later than “DAMN.” By Kendrick Lamar was released. The hype of “DAMN.” was lasting long, it was the album where Kendrick only stabled his reputation as a new king of Hip-Hop. “DAMN.” was receiving platinum statuses one after another, eventually establishing “all songs platinum” status by RIAA and 3 times platinum as a whole album. Nearly every single, mixtape or album released from mid-April, when “DAMN.” was released by September of that year could not reach a wide success. They just remained to be in the shade of “DAMN.”. Logic could not expect this much success of “DAMN.” in May, which has also put trumps against him.

Whilst the idea of the album was it’s the strongest advantage, the evaluation of the idea was far not professional. Undoubtedly, he aimed everybody’s problems but consciously or not, he aimed more at the problems in the black community. It is obvious in tracks like “Black Spiderman”, “AfricAryaN”, “Hallelujah”, especially.

Even if I love this album, I cannot ignore the fact that, the way the ideas evaluated in the album is quite strange. When a listener listens to the LP, he probably will be surprised by the flow of ideas and messages which were not equally distributed throughout the album. During three songs: “Hallelujah”, “Take it back”, “Everybody” the whole concept of the album is revealed, and the rest seem like whether bitting around the bush or off the album concept.

Ironically, the most successful song of this LP “1-800-273-8255” featuring Khalid and Alessia Cara is off the concept of the album. Moreover, the existence of skits in other songs contributed to the success of “1-800-273-8255”.

Until the release of the album Logic had enough talked about being biracial in his previous mixtapes and interviews. This fact could make some of his songs banal. He had talked so a lot that YouTube channel “MuchDank” released a video titled “Logic interview. But he keeps talking about being biracial” which evaluated a meme. Soon, Logic acknowledged this meme and during his interview at HardKnockTV, he says that he would change his name to Bobby Biracial. Soon after, he dropped a line stating: “It ain't a project if Logic ain't talkin' 'bout being biracial” in his “Keanu Reeves”, 2019 Single from “Confessions of a Dangerous Mind” LP.

Hidden, surprise feature of J. Cole on the last track, giving advice to not only Logic but every other person who listens to it, could not help the album to achieve commercial success, but it surely sustained additional respect towards Logic.

The album is quite good as a whole, but not good enough to be viral. The ideas were great but the artist lacked professionalism to evaluate this idea. Even if the LP failed commercially, its influence on the rapper's career was significant. Summarizing the points, I can state that the release of the album, positively influenced in the community and the career of the rapper.

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2020/06/25
19:36 UTC

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2020/05/09
18:05 UTC

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Come vote on the poll! About halfway done with the full results! And let us know you came from r/visionarymusicgroup

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2020/03/02
02:29 UTC

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Round 7 is up! Come over and vote if you love Chelsea Cutlers new album, and let me know you came from r/visionarymusicgroup!

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2020/02/28
01:24 UTC

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Round 6! Come vote and discuss in the comments!

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2020/02/23
01:41 UTC

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This photo of QUINN is honestly one of my favorite photos ever

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2020/02/20
03:49 UTC

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If you haven’t voted already, come participate in this poll! We’re getting some discussion in the comments. Come chat and let us know you came from visionarymusicgroup!

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2020/02/20
01:53 UTC

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Round 4 of Chelsea Cutler’s How To Be Human Survivor! Get your votes in, and discuss in the comments if you’d like :)

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2020/02/19
00:55 UTC

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Round 3 of How To Be Human Survival! Keep up the voting!

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2020/02/17
02:32 UTC

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Chelsea Cutler How To Be Human Survivor Round 2! We got 40 responses in 24 hours on the first round, lets aim for the same on this one!

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2020/02/15
17:18 UTC

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Chris Zarou: The Top of Hip-Hop

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2020/02/05
13:48 UTC

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It’s only a week away!!

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2020/01/10
16:55 UTC

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Just some Mutual Friends 🥰

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2020/01/09
18:21 UTC

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Hey all, who is your favorite Mutual Friends artist, and what is your favorite song/album by them?!

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2020/01/09
05:01 UTC

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I find ayokay’s album cover SO satisfying

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2020/01/08
18:16 UTC

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Quinn being Quinn

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2020/01/07
23:33 UTC

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Only 10 days left until Chelsea releases “How to be Human”!

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2020/01/07
18:13 UTC

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New Music This Friday, QUINN XCII “Two Tens”

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2020/01/07
05:04 UTC

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New Quinn XCII Snippet

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2019/12/16
16:48 UTC

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Chelsea Cutler's 'How To Be Human' debut album out 1.17.20!

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2019/12/04
21:07 UTC

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BobbysWorld (Ep. 4)

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2019/11/13
02:38 UTC

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Chelsea Cutler's 'How To Be Human' Tour Europe Dates

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2019/11/12
17:46 UTC

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[COADM Tour] Two Legends

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2019/11/10
21:09 UTC

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[COADM Tour] Pittsburgh!

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2019/11/09
17:37 UTC

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[COADM Tour] Wu Tang Forever

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2019/11/08
00:30 UTC

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