I just remember seeing that weird last episode and then being confused when there were no more episodes after that not knowing the show had been cancelled😭 literally was not on the internet for any kid show alerts so I was always confused

Both characters are associated with being nerds with simp-like characteristics and are unfairly treated throughout their respective series, but received notable development as they progressed.

Personally I prefer Freddie because I think he's an overall very underrated and underappreciated character. He's not super hilarious like Spencer or Gibby are, but he's pretty charismatic and badass like those spicy white boys from Disney Channel sitcoms (someone please make a compilation video for him on this), especially during the later seasons when he got buffed. I don't plan on watching the revival anytime soon, but from the clips I've seen he was still enjoyable (minus that hairstyle and beard from the beginning). I often sympathize with Robbie, and I think he should've won that hamboning contest, but he can be somewhat annoying at times. I wish both characters were more utilized and given some spotlight and respect (we ought to leave it all to them to make it shine).

I honestly think a comparison between Freddie and Beck or Andre would make sense as well, and I could also see a friendship form with Beck, like Jade and Sam. But what character do you prefer?

When I was younger, I thought nothing of it but watching it now, it just gives me very very bad vibes🤨😳😳

I watched Victorious as a kid and I always saw Rex as his own person with his own thoughts even though I knew he was a puppet lmao him and Robbie were just so different, which i now see is the point as Rex was essentially Robbie’s alter ego. I remember Rex flirting with Northridge girls and when Robbie would talk to them they would just look disgusted so I think that contributed to me thinking that way as well lol. anyone else think this way or just me?

i also remember an episode where Rex had a hickey on his neck and was hung over from partying with girls lmao.

That episode of Victorious was so weird to me when I was 12. I didn’t get the reference as a kid so everything was just strange.

Obv now I understand it lmao, I just remember being sooo confused

Since Dan was all Powerful and feared by everyone..... it was kind of BOLD of Nickelodeon to cancel the series.

I'm guessing the cast secretly wanted to move on.

The show was expensive but it was still making Nickelodeon $$$.

The demographic shift is kinda a lame excuse. I do believe such a shift was happening internally- but giving Victorious a final season of 13 eps or at least a TV movie should have been granted.

I personally think Victoria was done with Nickelodeon and just wanted to focus on her music. That's why Ariana threw her under the bus with such a statement. I think Ari can be shady but I don't think she would ever make up a lie. The other cast would have defended Victoria & would have said "Ariana is lying" -- but they didn't say anything.

I'd think there was some truth in Ariana's statement of how "One girl didn't want to do a Season 4"

He needs to stay off that crack he claims is expired coconut milk.

I know this topic has already been posted to death here, but I'd still like to share my thoughts. They are both known for being funny, savage, and just iconic in general, and both Liz and Jeanette delivered their respective roles very well. To an extent they can be somewhat a bit too mean-spirited at times, which I understand can rub off the wrong way to some people, but as exaggerated sitcom characters I'll try not to judge them too much by real-life standards here. Though these days I kind of prefer Jade over Sam for the following reasons:

1. Unlike Sam who constantly wins things without trying and barely has bad things happening to her on-screen (the other main characters, even Carly has their share of misfortunes), Jade barely gets her way even though she puts in so much effort and thought. Hence why I find it easier to sympathize with her.
2. Jade's motives of being evil are usually more understandable. Like the Steamboat Suzy situation, even though she went a bit overboard with attempted homocide on Tori twice lol, in her defense she probably deserved that role. Meanwhile Sam's excuse to sabotaging Freddie's application was because he did not give her the time (then again, that episode wasn't very good with Sam or Freddie in general).
3. Jade is not necessarily omnipotent unlike Sam who often single-handedly takes over world wrestling champions, which gives a better sense of realism to Jade (not that Schneider comedies are known for being realistic).
4. Jade isn't necessarily as biased to whom she targets as much as Sam is. She'd be going after Tori, Cat, Robbie, Beck, etc. Meanwhile I feel Sam mainly goes after Freddie and Gibby and not treating other of her crushes like Pete or Jonah the same.
5. Jade always remained consistent as a villain and painted in a bad light, whereas Sam feels a lot morally inconsistent (one day she'll be standing up for people against bullies, another day she'll be starting a child labor with harsh conditions and underpaid wages). Sometimes even when Sam does something good, it doesn't always rub the right way on me.

This isn't necessarily that I hate Sam because she is funny; she's just a very complicated character and I can't full explain how I feel about her. I could definitely envision a long-lasting friendship between the two, a spin-off Sam and Jade would be arguably better. But what are your thoughts? Do you prefer Jade or Sam?

Compared to iCarly where the show ended because Miranda Cosgrove was heading off to College and continuing a show without the main main character is bad. And Drake and Josh where the show ended because Dan Schneider felt that the show ran its course and it was time to end it. But as for Victorious no offical explanation for its cancellation was ever given. The show wasn't even given a proper finale like Dan Schneider's other shows. Clearly it wasn't because of Ariana Grande since her music career hadn't exploded in international popularity yet. Some other reason was because someone (she) didn't want to do something so it got cancelled and people immediately assumed Victoria Justice but it was backed up as false by all the cast members. Then we also have low ratings, the show was cancelled in 2012 and still averaged 3-4 million per episode with the final airing in 2013 making 2.89 million views. Sam & Cat wasn't the reason for the cancelation. And then we have the drugs, sex, and alcohol, a theory goes that the show was canned because the underage cast members were doing illegal activities which could have lead to scandals and lawsuits around Nickelodeon. The alcohol is backed up by Jennette Mccurdy from her biography and Avan Joia (Beck) posting a Tiktok that he barley remembers Victorious because he was implying drugs or alcohol. But apparently it was debunked. So what do you guys think?

And it’s not because I ship them or whatever. It’s just that the scene itself was just… badly written. I absolutely hated the constant jokes and laugh track being shoved into this serious scene.

I understand this is a sitcom for the kids so they have to add some lightheartedness to even the most depressing of scenes. But stuff like Cat joining in on Jade’s countdown or Trina pouncing on Beck made the scene irritating and unserious to watch.

Idk, if I’m being a stick in the mud feel free to let me know too lol 🤷🏽‍♀️. Also from what I remember, the scene where Tori friendzones Beck (while Jade is watching on the camera thingy) was pretty serious with like no laugh track. So it’s not like the writers couldn’t write serious scenes.

What if Victorious got another season and wasn't abruptly cancelled?

I’m meaning if she’s having a drink with her friends and boyfriend and they ask her if she can still do it even though she hasn’t done it in like 10 Years

Hypothetically speaking, if Victorious had been made today what do you think would be different?

Found out thru Quinton’s vid that they were tg for a year in the first season which I thought they’d been tg way longer😭 I’m curious on how jade even got to liking him bc I feel like it’s one of those “I’m not like other girls” kinda things

Being a kid, I literally thought I was gonna hate her and she’d constantly be the mean girl like how Molly was in How to Rock and thinking she’d kind of just become a side character like how Sikowitz was where she wasn’t really a main character, and that Tori and Beck would end up together and Beck would stand up to Jade and defend Tori or something and leave her for Tori💀 but I’m glad they didn’t make her completely rude and that she ended up forming a relationship with Tori

Tori: She did not make a convincing police officer, but she did make a convincing Raisin Bran-addict. I wish she didn't win honestly. 4/10

Beck: Imo his acting was the best, being a Brit invading other people's spaces (basically British history). I think he should've won; we also deserve more British Beck scenes. 10/10

Cat: I really loved her 80s talk show host persona. I wish she kept it even after she broke character. 9/10

Jade: As great as an actor she is, sometimes times I feel like she acts more like a hot girl LARPing as a southerner than an actual southerner. I guess she's more of a Georgian girl than Alabamite. 8/10

Andre: Don't have much to say about him playing a pregnant lady who ran a marathon, but he's Andre, so it's all good. 6/10

Robbie: What even is his character supposed to be like lol? 2/10

Victoria is talented in her own way and she definitely doesn’t deserve the hates she gets just because people thought she was jealous of Ariana. especially because it was a total misunderstanding. Like the bts scenes there’s so many videos of Ariana and Victoria socializing and hugging each other. But Singers like Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson, Dua Lipa and Billie Eilish have all admitted to being jealous of Ariana Grande’s voice and wish they had it. so why would Victoria get that hate for supposedly being jealous of her voice if those singers didn’t. Plus they’ve been supporting each other. I don’t know why these videos of Victoria being jealous of Ariana keep coming up in 2024.

I can't seem to get that one song out of my head from the scene where Robbie and Tori get stuck at the sushi restaurant and have to help chop squid. The man whose name I could never catch was singing it and now it's stuck in my head. "Chop, chop, the squid and disappoint my father." 😆 so, it makes me wonder which song catches each of you and stays with you. Good or bad. I'm sure it's different for everyone.

I hate raisin bran.

It's such a bop & deserves to be on the charts