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No show, cancelled appointment

Hello. I am new at managing a veterinary clinic and I have sooo many questions but the one Im working on right now is what kind of regulation can be implemented to avoid no-shows or last minute cancellations especially for surgeries, if any regulation is possible. Thanks!!

13 Comments
2024/04/25
20:33 UTC

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Pet insurance

I’m interested in working for a veterinary insurance company and wanted to know if there were any other people that worked in veterinary medicine then transitioned into working in pet insurance. Ive been a veterinary assistant for over 3 years. Started off in GP and am now working in ophthalmology. I’m curious to know if there’s any schooling involved and if so, what kind of degree or certification I need.

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2024/04/25
17:48 UTC

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Michigan Vet DEA Training

Hi!

I am planning on moving to Michigan after vet school graduation, and I am trying to find a training course that fulfills the Michigan Rule 338.3135 requirements for DEA licensing. Does anyone have suggestions that they can link? I have seen other non-state-specific training courses that meet almost all the points, but not "Utilizing the Michigan Automated Prescription system" requirement. TIA!

R 338.3135 Requirements

  • Use of opioids and other controlled substances
  • Integration of treatments
  • Alternative of treatments for pain management
  • Counseling patients on the effects and risks associated with using opioids and other controlled substances
  • The stigma of addiction
  • Utilizing the Michigan Automated Prescription system
  • State and federal laws regarding prescribing and dispensing controlled substances
  • Security features and proper disposal requirements for prescriptions
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2024/04/25
14:36 UTC

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Any new Grads accepting a position in pacific north west willing to share compensation package info?

2021 grad here, coming up for a salary review at the corporate GP practice I work at. I was wondering what new grads are being offered these days in my area to give me a solid starting point. I like where I work but I also don’t want to get taken advantage of, since it’s corporate. Lately the starting salary has been taking some big jumps and I don’t want to be paid less than the two new vets they need to hire. Thanks in advance!

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2024/04/25
01:15 UTC

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Veterinarians who have had experience with VCA

I'm a new grad who just got a small animal GP job offer from a VCA. I visited the location and really like that specific VCA clinic. The compensation and benefits look really good (although there is a 4 mile non-compete boo). I've always heard of stigmas against corporations. Do any veterinarians on this sub have thoughts that they can share on their experience with VCA?

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2024/04/24
22:52 UTC

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Entitled Karen of the week

Called owner 2 business days after pulling routine lab work to discuss struvite crystals in the urine. Owner didn't answer phone, so I sent an email. Owner sent this email back in response lol.

There is literally no pleasing some people.

28 Comments
2024/04/24
18:43 UTC

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how to become a vet nurse through apprenticeship?

i’m in the UK and want to find a vet nurse apprenticeship but everything is find is just level 3 and there’s no level 1 or 2 apprenticeships. i don’t know anything about apprenticeships so i don’t know if you can just go straight onto the level 3, if level 3 is the only type, if level 1, 2 and 3 are all included under “level 3 apprenticeship” or what.

i would really appreciate some help with coming to understand this. thank you!

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2024/04/24
17:08 UTC

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NVA Experience?

my employer, who is Overseen by NVA suddenly dropped me down to 4 hours a week from full-time in September. I felt undervalued, inadequate, worthless. Why would they do this. Where will my pay check come from. I asked for mental health leave temporarily. I provided a return to work letter in October and I'm still not back at work.

Nobody will communicate with me, they don't respond timely to my answers regarding a meeting. Jamie Anutooshkin and Joanne Nigro are bordering on discrimination. In military first aid, we learn the best treatment for combat stress reaction is to keep the soldier close to their unit. They feel like they're part of the team, not like they're weak or ineffective.

My employer has done the complete opposite. cut off from communication, not provided with an immediate return to work. it drags on and they're exacerbating any anxiety or depression. I don't know what to do. I don't know how to make them see that.

Anyone have advice or suggestions on how to get this resolved?

4 Comments
2024/04/24
13:39 UTC

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Different careers

Clinic, emergency, specialization, research, pharmaceuticals are areas I am aware of.

What unique/nontraditional jobs have you worked at or met some who did? Howd you come to be in that position? How much did you make? How was maintaining work life balance?

Basically just want to see where a DVM can be used that isnt common knowledge

14 Comments
2024/04/24
13:33 UTC

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Avian Vet as a Second Career - Totally Unrealistic?

Hi all,

I've got what is probably a familiar story to you all - I've loved animals my whole life, always had a fantasy of a career focused on and expanding that passion I've had for animals. My interest in animals was always dismissed as childish and so instead I became a licensed psychotherapist. I am good at my job and make decent money, and I have flexible hours.

I don't love it, though. It's never really been my passion. My friends tease me because I always am bringing home "project" pets. I now have a dog and two rescue parrots in addition to my human child. I'm thirty years old. I am fascinated by exotic animal medicine and have this recurring idea that it would be a career I'd actually be passionate about. But the debt and burnout and long hours seem daunting. I'm not sure I'm dextrous enough to be a good surgeon. And my primary interest has always been more in animal husbandry than in medicine.

What do you all think? Is it a silly idea to even consider? Or have any of you had a similar path into vet med and are glad you did?

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2024/04/24
02:10 UTC

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FTC bans noncompetes

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/ftc-announces-rule-banning-noncompetes

This should apply to pretty much every veterinarian and apply retroactively to existing noncompete agreements as well. Unfortunately, I would probably hold off on celebrating because this will be challenged in court probably go up to the supreme court with an unknown outcome. But still promising!

33 Comments
2024/04/23
19:56 UTC

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vet nutritionist?

is it possible to enter a career path as a veterinary nutritionist if i don’t have a BA in a related field (i do have a BA, though)? are there other schooling / certificate / programs i can seek to complete? would love advice from anyone with experience! thank you :)

3 Comments
2024/04/23
19:44 UTC

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Where to take Animal Nutrition course in FL?

I currently attend Florida State University, and I am trying to figure out where to take animal nutrition. Of the options in FL, it seems like St. Petersberg College is the most affordable. Does anyone else who lives in FL and has taken animal nutrition have any recommendations? I want to apply to Texas Tech and Texas A&M and this will be the last prerequisite I will need.

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2024/04/23
17:27 UTC

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Is vet school worth it financially? Thoughts on ER or relief work?

Hey everybody, im going into my last year of college and I'm thinking about going to vet school. Ive done some shadowing at a small clinic back home and its by far my top career choice. The only problem is vet school.

I don't mind school but with the amount that it costs to attend, in addition to going an extra 4 years without making a salary, I'm just not sure that its a good idea financially. Through my research I've found that the average salary is $100,000 in the US compared to $200,000 worth of debt. Ive heard that ER vets and relief vets make more but Ive also heard a lot about how fast people quit those jobs.

Ill be graduating with a bachelors degree in environmental science next year so i could go out and get a job with that right away. Ive also considered dentistry just because of the very high pay and low hours.

Would yall still go to vet school if you did it all over again? Or would you get a job that you don't care as much about but seems better financially.

14 Comments
2024/04/23
16:55 UTC

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Looking for resources on feline behavior in the ER

I am a current DVM student doing an animal behavior project. I am doing it on managing feline stress in critical scenarios to keep patient and staff safe and healthy

Please let me know if you have any good resources, websites or articles.

Thank you!

0 Comments
2024/04/23
15:34 UTC

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Pro-Sal annual adjustment question

Hey, I have a question, and sorry if this was answered before… I searched and didn’t find what I was looking for.

My contract is for a SA GP associate in a multi-doctor clinic in rural, low-income area, owned by cooperate. I work 3 days a week and have a base salary and 20% production after salary. No negative accrual.

Now, my contract is based on 1-year “terms”. It states that after the first year the base salary will be adjusted to 85% of my production.

What does this mean? It can hardly mean 85% of my gross production, that would be insane. I can also not really believe it means it adjust to only 85% of the 20% production I made… at least I hope not 😅 Can anyone clarify?

Thank you!

5 Comments
2024/04/23
14:43 UTC

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Veterinary Science from foreign University In Canada

Hello , I am wondering if someone can help me with some general information. My girlfriend has a degree in Veterinary Science from another country. She wants to eventually become a permanent resident of Canada and work here. Would this type of degree be valid in Canada to work with animals?

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2024/04/23
11:45 UTC

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Teaching a two-week course this summer to high schoolers interested in vet med

Curious if yall can remember back to that time what you would be most interested in learning about so early on! I was thinking about having a day to teach basic PEs, wet lab with how to give SQ injections/draw blood, lectures on various topics in vet med, etc. I haven’t worked with a highschool age people in quite some time so I may have a skewed idea about what would be most interesting. Thoughts greatly appreciated :)

11 Comments
2024/04/23
01:25 UTC

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Veterinary Specialties Salaries

Hi all,

I am on my way to my first year of veterinary school this coming fall (yay!) and I have been trying to get some statistics on veterinary specialties, but so far I have just seen SO much conflicting information on the web. Currently, I hope to do a radiology residency to become a veterinary radiologist (totally aware that that can and probably will change, but I like having a semblance of a plan) following my internship after veterinary school. Are there any specialists on here that would be willing to share their salaries or how much they were able to grow since their own graduation? Not that it will necessarily affect my decision, but I would just love some direct statistics other than the speculations of online journals. Hopefully this isn't a completely terrible question? Thanks in advance!

(side bar - I was also wondering if I did become a radiologist, if I could still do surgery since I have a strong affinity for that as well? Or would that be too much to juggle?)

18 Comments
2024/04/23
03:46 UTC

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Just venting because I’m truly feeling lost. Need some positive words..

For starters I want to say thanks to anyone who has the time and patience to read this, since I know it will be long and that the simple fact of me writing this here will make me feel a little better. I’m on my last year of graduating as a veterinary technician and I’m currently on the 1 month of my first ever internship. Due to some situations on my life I never volunteered on a shelter/clinic and so this is my first time involving with animals/this world, but ever since I was young I knew I wanted to work with animals simple because I have a deep passion for it and always wanted to be able to help them. At first my goal was to be a veterinary doctor but due to COVID my plans were switched and I went to a nursing school. Even tho I always worked for this and went through a lot to finally be working with animals, I’m hating my internship and almost everything is going wrong with it. And mostly is because I feel like I suck at the job I’m supposed to do for the rest of my life. I know this is my first time working in this field and that I can’t expect to be able to put all the catheter’s in at the first try or to be able to take blood from any animal, but I still feel like I’m special bad at it.. more than one month in, and I have so much trouble when the they ask me to put a catheter or to take blood, specially when the other interns are doing it much better than me. And I wish I could say I was successful at the other stuff they ask me, but even preparing meds is hard for me.. I have dyslexia and something as simple as putting the bottle of serum onto the machine can be anxiety inducing to figure it out how to put it because of the flow. Another thing I want to mention is that how unknowledgeable I am in terms of knowing the theory of this field.. I started this course at almost 3 years ago and right at the start I was going through the loss of two of the most important people in my life and between breakdowns, depressive episodes, insomnia and struggling with insecurities, my brain wasn’t/isn’t that well. When I was younger I used to have photographic memory, but know I struggle to remember simple things like what I did 2h ago or last week, I need to have post its around the house to remember anything because I know I will forget it. I’m 21 btw and it scares me to see me having the same struggles as my 83 year old grandma.. all of this to say that I, now, have trouble to remember stuff and can even forget how simple things work at the hospital if I don’t revise it everyday. Almost every time I’m at the hospital I feel out of place because I’m surrounded by capable people and I’m just there doing specially worse than everyone not knowing what to do. I’m always making little mistakes and I don’t feel confident at all doing anything there. I hate how i feel when im there..90% of the people are super nice and treat me well, but i already know the impression they have of me. I don’t think i have what it takes to be here and it scares me because this was what i always wanted.. I feel like im not good enough and won’t ever be because of my struggles with memory/being stupider than the rest. The reason I decided to come here and write all of this, is because I would love to hear if anyone had a similar experience either being a vet nurse or doctor that simply sucked at the things they were doing and if it got better.. not only at the catheter stuff but in general! It would mean the world to me since today is one of those days that I’m feeling so sad and frustrated that I, the one of always loved all types of animals, gets sick just by looking at a bird outside.. this is not who I am and I’m afraid this bad experience is ruining something that I always loved about myself that was the passion and the deep love I felt for animals. If you got at the end of this, thank you for your time! Have a wonderful day :)

3 Comments
2024/04/22
15:30 UTC

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Where do associate DVMs look for jobs?

I’m hoping for some advice as I look for an associate. I am the sole owner of a 2 Dr clinic that is growing. We are moving into a new bigger space this summer so we are now able to add a dr. What are the places that you, as an associate, look for jobs? We are in Ohio, if location affects best places to advertise.

1 Comment
2024/04/22
14:24 UTC

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Do vets work as long hours as doctors?

If I become a vet can I have a good work life balance? Will I be working over 12 hours in one shift, and unsocial hours like regular doctors do? Pls let me know. I am from the uk btw, where many doctors do this

9 Comments
2024/04/22
14:31 UTC

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Illinois Vet school experience

For Illinois Vet School, I wanted to ask current vet students their experience. I have heard mixed reviews from people loving the students and the rotations and the teachers. While others have said that the school has students who form “clicks” and that the rotations are not the best at times. Can anyone share an honest opinion? Thank you!

2 Comments
2024/04/22
11:09 UTC

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Tips for when you have an aggressive/scared patient?

Do you take them to the back room? Wait it out keeping distance? Bring treats? Ask them to return on sedation?

Just curious what other vets do for these patients, as it’s pretty scary and it’s sometimes hard to know what is best.

Any advice is appreciated!

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2024/04/21
21:31 UTC

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Corporate Clinics

I’m writing this more as a discussion piece than advice needed. I have been working at a corporate veterinary clinic as a hallway vet technician for the past seven months. Apparently they have annual raises every year and this year would have been my first time with them. I heard through two of our kennel techs that HR was meeting with everyone individually to discuss wage increases. This conversation led us to discuss our own wage increases. One of the kennel techs knew everyone’s wage increase and proceeded to also inform me of this information. Come to find out, I had the lowest increase in wage. I was upset considering my coworker with the same title had a 50 cent difference than my own increase. I decided not to make anything of it since I’m trying to find the exit anyway.
The next day arrives and I am scheduled to have a meeting with HR, assuming over my wage increase. Not at all. The day passes and meeting time comes. My HR starts by telling me this is a verbal warning and proceeds to inform me that discussing wages is not allowed and has called for termination on the spot in the past. She stated that if I were to be caught having said discussion again, they would see no issue terminating me. Mind you, when my kennel techs and I had said discussion, everyone was gone from the clinic. I’m not even sure how she found out we had this conversation. Anyway, has this occurred with anyone else before? How legal is this stance my clinic is taking? I would love to hear more similar stories!

1 Comment
2024/04/21
22:45 UTC

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SOAPS

Anyone have any good SOAP templates? I had some at my old clinic that were premade ones for common txs and sxs (like OHEs)? Would really appreciate a good format one, thanks!

2 Comments
2024/04/22
01:44 UTC

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New Mexico State License Exam

How terrible is it? I recently took the exam for Arizona and it was a cake walk. Things have changed and now I’ll now be taking a job in New Mexico. I was shocked to find out that the exam is in person closed book. Is it pretty straightforward?

2 Comments
2024/04/22
01:03 UTC

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Why do you dispense your own prescriptions? Do you mind sharing?

Hey guys,

I’m a young pharmacist and I work in a small community with a large amount of horse/other pet owners in Canada. I work at a MegaCorp type of pharmacy and occasionally see veterinary prescriptions come across my desk. I understand veterinarians can dispense medications as well. Why do some vetinarians dispense medications from the clinic vs send the rx to a local pharmacy? Is there any pros and cons to acting as the prescriber and pharmacist? Why would you ever send out a rx outside of your clinic?

I’m trying to get out of MegaCorp and build my own small town independent pharmacy. I love animas, and their accompanying owners, and wonder if there is a market for a pharmacy focused only on dispensing and compounding veterinary medications! I appreciate any feedback!

39 Comments
2024/04/22
00:46 UTC

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Did anyone work whilst studying?

How did you find the work load?

Did you manage to continue working around classes, or did studying take all of your time?

Considering vet med but I simply cannot afford to go to university and not work at th3 same time, even if its part time.

4 Comments
2024/04/21
18:07 UTC

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