His fellow sophomore Brice Sensabaugh has not been better. His on ball defense against wings has been quite good, he deserves credit for improving there, but outside of that...bloated turnover rate with minimal responsibility. Inconsistent shooting. Team has been absolutely trucked in his minutes at the 4 so not sure if small ball 4 is in the cards. Not a trusted option with the ball in his hands, not much of a rebounder. Involved in missed defensive assignments regularly.

I haven't seen much from Brice that suggests he's a future rotation guy in this league, a lot of the weaknesses we knew he had in college haven't been corrected. He has improved from his rookie season, no doubt, but he was given freedom at the end of last season. This season he's being plugged in an actual role. He can shoot but is he a good enough shooter to make up for his deficiencies? 3/D is what he's gonna have to be to make the NBA but his defense isn't good enough for that to be functional right now. He's basically a stand still shooter, not providing much movement shooting. He never has had much midrange game. He's always been a rim or threes guy but he isn't gonna be a high leverage creator in this league realistically. No team will ask that of him realistically.

Keyonte is someone I think a lot of fans are now a bit dubious on but I'm more dubious on Brice than Keyonte because you can see the framework of what Keyonte can be in the right role. Will he reach that bar? TBD. Brice is also very young, but his future on this team is not guaranteed. He's not a star here and we have picks coming in. If he doesn't show improvement, he will be moved on from. And I have personally not seen in him someone that's really that interesting as a future player. I'm not moved by him.

I'm posting this in part because I think it's important to take Keyonte's struggles into context---new position, hardest position, only 20, etc.....but also because he is far from the only young player who has thus far not guaranteed himself as a future piece of this franchise. Brice Sensabaugh certainly has not either. Honestly, Juzang hasn't either. You all agree?

I know the Jazz have never had the #1 draft pick, but have they ever finished a season with the very worst record in the league?

the purple in seasons tourney courts >>>

A rebuttal to the Sun's Fans post.

Here's my biggest concern with Hardy.. in his own words.. shout-out to Andy Larsen for always being the best coverage of the Jazz

“I have the long view in mind for all of these guys. The reality is that we can‘t play every young guy every night. That’s not how this is going to work. This is the NBA, and there is a level of earning minutes that has to happen,” Hardy said. “I think this notion of like, just getting minutes helps you get better is not true. Just playing for playing’s sake doesn’t just make them better. That’s why we have practices. That’s why we have the G League. There’s so many ways that we’re going to use all of our resources to help all these guys get better.”. -Hardy Nov 8 postgane vs Bucks

Earning minutes? This is the NBA not college tryouts. There is no development plan that should include Patty Mills or Drew Eubanks being more than mentors and pushing guys in practice. I love Juzang and JC, but again they shouldn't be getting minutes when Brice and Collier are healthy.

I wish Hardy would coach more like Pops and Daigneault.

Just a quick appreciation post for Kyle. Every rookie from this past draft has shown flashes, but Flip is just so much more developed and confident than every other rookie/sophmore we have save Keyonte, he never seems unsure about what he's going to do when he gets the ball and has a great mind/skillset for passing and spacing. I felt great about him ever since we took him at 32. He's 7 feet tall and I really haven't seen something that he can't do on the court.

I know everyone wants to tank for Flagg but I just don't see him living up to his hype, anything he can do Flip is doing right now. Flip can play 3-5 and Flagg is more of a 3-4, also his 3 ball hasn't been looking that great lately. Don't get me wrong, would be amazing to have him.

Anyway, I hope Hardy gives him more playing time. With Taylor out, he definitely has a higher chance of getting in now but how long he plays really depends on how well John, Lauri, and Walker are doing. It's really rare for 2 of those guys to have a bad enough night for him to get in and do so well they keep him for 20+ minutes, but anytime he gets time he does good things so I guess we'll see.

Suns fan here, love Lauri and Collins and Clarkson as players

Hell of a fight you put up tonight, and didn't know how young your coach was. Dude is only 36!

I thought your playcalling and rotations were solid, had some decent shooting too (teams hot on the 3 are our nemesis) we just had Book and Beal to seal the deal.

Does your fanbase like him so far?

Not sure where you guys are at with your trades or if you are tanking for Cooper for what.

I have fond memories of those Bulls/Jazz series in the 90's and am a fan or your org and the NBA in general.

Looking forward to seeing what you Lauri and your org are going to do going forward.

Folks, this gray court is absolutely awful. I cannot believe something thought this was a good idea.

Of all possible color combinations and designs, THIS is what was decided? There’s no excuse. It’s obscene.

Who's brain child was this. It's super distracting during the game.

[Game link](https://www.espn.com/nba/game/\_/gameId/401703375/suns-jazz)

I understand we are trying to develop our youth and regardless of what draft picks we get next season, we are doing that. However, I feel like if we don't get a top 5 pick this season, it would feel like our team would be going nowhere for another year until we draft a good talent. What are your guys thoughts?

NBA Cup - Group West B Schedule

After an intriguing win in San Antonio, we have another possible coping injection looming on sight when the NBA Cup starts tomorrow! The Jazz might not win a lot this season, but IF YOU WIN JUST THE RIGHT GAMES, you might end up with some silverware and Cooper Flagg!

With the news of Chet and KD going out with injuries the group is suddenly wide open for an upset. It's still not probable but hear me out!

• Tomorrow Phoenix without KD in Utah starting a week long away trip against bigger guns for them: first home W of the season for Jazz
• Week from now Lakers return from their back-to-back weekend away trip and chill for a couple of days before hosting Utah: they sluggishly drop a game at Staples Center
• One week from that and Spurs visit the Delta Center: an easy dub, Jazz 3-0 in NBA Cup group stage
• Last game against OKC and even a tight loss is enough because Jazz is guaranteed to be top 2 in the group and their group gets the wildcard spot thanks to their strong point differential, Jazz goes through to the knockouts!

Here's Kevin Pelton's projection for the group stage which gives Jazz a 6.4% probability to advance to the knockouts. Not too shabby!

The Utah Jazz content team is doing some amazing work. Jazz fans should love this. https://youtu.be/EDbc1l9E7Nk?si=v6sfJ7Biwu9NcKQM

fluke?

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Hi, bulls fan here, haven’t been super interested in the jazz but Lauri has peaked my interest.

So I’m wondering how much better does the Jazz get when their star is healthy? If he were healthy for the rest of the season what do you expect the record to look by playoffs?

[Game link](https://www.espn.com/nba/game/\_/gameId/401704763/jazz-spurs)

We may be tanking and playing sub par basketball. But regardless, we aren’t sub par fans!! I hope to see some growth from the young guys, wisdom from the vets, and someone to poster wemby!

Ryan Smith owns the Jazz and UHC, and broadcast their games on SeG+ and Utah 16. He also owns RSL, yet you can only watch their games on apple TV. YouTube also don't see them being advertized jointly like the other two. Their presense seems to be more like a minor league team--barely covered by the paper (Deseret news covers WSU more) and the games don't have a recap on the news. Why doesn't SEG do more to cross promote them and get exposure?

I mean it could happen and if it does, Cooper would actually be a good fit next to Lauri Markkanen

Since this season will be filled with losses, I want to periodically update a list of notable prospects to keep an eye on. I’m far from a scout, but I do enjoy following the draft.

We can keep commentary, highlight videos, etc here. I’m starting out with my own personal rankings with the limited stuff we have right now, but let’s talk about where you think guys should be — I ultimately want this to reflect what our community thinks and be an easy resource for Jazz fans looking into prospects through the season.

#In play for Utah’s pick (current top 10):

• Cooper Flagg
• Ace Bailey
• Dylan Harper
• VJ Edgecombe
• Nolan Traore
• Egor Demin
• Kon Knueppel
• Tre Johnson
• Asa Newell
• Kasparas Jakucionis

#In play for Minnesota’s pick (next 10):

• Mackenzie Mgbako
• Khaman Malauch
• Noah Essengue
• Ben Saraf
• Rocco Zikarsky
• Hugo Gonzalez
• Liam McNeeley
• Dink Pate
• Milan Momcilovic
• Drake Powell

#In play for Cleveland’s Pick (next 10):

• Collin Murray-Broyles
• Hunter Sallis
• Alex Karaban
• Derrion Reid
• Michael Ruzic
• Ryan Kalkbrenner
• Jalil Bethea
• Donnie Freeman
• JT Toppin
• Boogie Fland

Lots of talk about the rotation over the last few days and especially after last night when Will Hardy leaned on vets. Team played well the first 2 1/4 quarters, but turnovers led to transition buckets and Dame/Giannis dominated in the halfcourt and took the game over.

I thought the Jazz looked good for much of the Mavs game before Taylor's injury. They've been able to put together stretches of good ball in games but nothing with any consistency.

With that being said, Markannen is back. Clarkson came back yesterday and was his typical up and down self. Isaiah Collier made his NBA regular season debut last night.

With this team at non-Hendricks full strength, what do you think the rotation should look like in the games ahead?

For me, personally, I'm going with: George/Sexton/Sensabaugh/Markannen/Kessler as your starting 5, with (for now) Mills/Clarkson/Juzang/Collins/Filipowski off the bench and Williams and Collier in G-League.

I personally would rather see Potter in the rotation over Eubanks as well if it isn't Filip but Filip has shown enough in his minutes to deserve the opportunity and to me should be there, for development purposes and to be honest he's also the superior player to Eubanks. Collier, just returning from injury, is G-League bound for now and we'll see how he performs, as the backup PG is there for him if he can produce immediately.

I think Cody should be too, but he probably won't be. Don't think it benefits him playing such a bit role on offense and doing so ineffectively. He can slash and moves the ball, which honestly is more than what Hendricks was bringing to the table on offense pre-injury, but is a total non-threat as a scorer right now and is just raw defensively even though the defensive talent/upside is there.

Brice has improved his defense on ball. The team defense is something to work on, but that takes reps. He can shoot 3's and he can drive off closeouts. That's the kind of guy that the Jazz need in the starting lineup. He has the makings of a 3/D wing with some creation equity. We'll only know for sure if he plays, but this lineup is starved for someone like that at the 3, with or without Taylor, because he actually can make a play with the ball. He's also a solid cutter.

What would you all do?

Found myself in a rabbit hole of Cooper Flagg highlights and getting excited about having him on the Jazz. Maybe I’m being pessimistic but 1.4 times out of 10 is still really low.

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I don’t have Apple TV, Android TV, or a Roku TV. I can only watch in a web browser but it blocks casting it to a TV. If i do screen mirroring it blacks out the footage. Such a waste of money. I don’t understand why they just wouldn’t use a more accessible phone app. I’m not about to go out and buy additional hardware just so i can use this shit. So frustrating.