Each one of his dead wives appears before Henry in his mentally and emotionally unstable state at the end of his life.

The scene is suppose to show he has gone made with grieve and unbearable guilt for the choices he has made in life. Though he tries to fight them off.

(I think it’s believed that there is some truth in this. Like at the end of his life Henry was so far gone mentally that he believed he saw the ghost of his wives. I’m not sure though)

However, why doesn’t Catherine’s ghost appear and speak to him? I’ve looked up the ghost scene on many different YouTube videos and all it ever shows is Anne Boleyn talking about her.

Which I have to say that is an emotional scene. “Poor Catherine Howard…she lies in the cold ground next to me…poor child.”

Gets me every time.

Could the actress not come back for reasons? Or did they just not feel the need to give her a talking moment.

Baring in mind it is Halloween I’d like to tell you all a story, a sad tragic tale of Alice Glaston. Alice was an 11 year old girl, sentenced to death for an unknown crime. Henry VIII was monarch at the time (1535).

Alice was executed by hanging. There is no evidence of her “crime”. Though we can rule out a few things. If it was theft she wouldn’t have been executed, possibly pilloried or had a limb amputated. Due to her age many say maybe a religious based crime. But heretics were usually burned at the stake. Same with witchcraft.

So many believe she was executed for murder… at 11 years old! I would guess this too knowing certain execution examples for certain crimes. It could be treason too. But not sure what an 11 year old would have done so treasonous.

1546 (when the execution took place) was also the year of Anne Askew so it could be linked! Anne was one of very few WOMEN to be tortured. Or should I say “cross examination/interrogated”. She was placed on the rack. The Lieutenant of the Tower, Sir Anthony Knyvett, refused to torture her any more. So 2 others carried on. They turned the handles so hard that Anne was drawn apart, her shoulders and hips were pulled from their sockets and her elbows and knees were dislocate! (I know just a dislocated knee could be painful too!) She had to be carried on a chair, in just her shift, to the stake as obviously she was unable to walk!

(Photo is a depiction of the execution of Anne Askew)

Had Elizabeth Blount given birth to twin sons on June 15, 1519, what would change? Henry VIII now has two sons: Henry and Edward Fitzroy.

I already have,

Bloody Mary by Carolly Erickson

The six wives of Henry Viii by Alison Weir

Edward Vi by Chris Skidmore.

I’m looking for actual historical books about them, not historical fiction. I’m not against historical fiction, but I want to do more personal research instead of driving you all crazy with my questions. 😅

If you could pick 3 period dramas, which would you pick?

currently watching sisi 2021.

I am rewatching the tudors lol. And it has been inspired me. Who do you think the public adored the most?

Out of Henry's wives.

I would assume Catherine of Argon.

Least Katherine Howard .

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Being the consort to the monarch would provide you with the best England could offer.

But England in the past was not the most prosperous place, right?

Now I dont mean they lived in damp mud huts. or that everyone wore brown clothes.

England had good trade with the continent. And had access to many luxurious products that came with trade.

But they were still further away from all the trade and rich cities on the continent.

France was much richer. More people, larger cities, and such.

And around this time Spain (Habsburg in general) was doing very well for themself, right?

Would they not feel that England while not a backwater, was not the most fun place to be in?

It was a place further away from all the wealth and culture stuff that happend on the continent, right? And the bad weather made it more depressing..lol

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But in the case of Catherine, Anne and Philip, when they lived in England did they have less accees to all the luxery goods that was on the continent?

Would England been a downgrade for them? Or would the english court been as splendid as the other royal courts on the continent.?

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Now these people were raised to marry for political reasons, so they probably just accepted it and went along, it did not matter what they thought about England.

But I still wonder, if a princess from spain or france, would have hoped to not be married off and become queen of England? And would rather marry someone down south, on the continent?

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Would love to read about foriegn royals or nobles that married the english monarchs or nobility.

If there was any culture clashes? And if they thought England was less impressive then were they came from and such.

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Like with Joan of Navarre, who was the dowager duchess of Brittany and regent to her son. But she decided to leave all that behind (against the wished of her family) and married Henry IV of England.

And I do wonder if she ever regreted that decision.

She was not very liked by the english, beacuse she was french.

Accused all the time of spending too much money.

The royal family being forced to live on a smaller budget.

Henry IV having to beg parliment for more money, beacuse of rebelions.

Her husband and his sons being in danger of constant assasination attempt, rebelion and full on armed conflict.

Joan and Henry had no children, she gave birth to stillborn twins. And after that, they maybe did not want to risk it.

She was only Queen for 10 years, and out of 8 of those years Henry suffered from multiple illnesses that would leave him in chronic pain and disabled.

A much different man then how he would have been on their first meeting in France.

So she did probably not get what she thought, when she signed up to become Queen of England.

What if Edward VI had a bastard son named Henry, and he had Parliament legitimize him? Would he become king in 1553?

I am a bit obsessed with John of Gaunt and Katherine Swynford.(late 1300s)

And I find it intresting to read about unusual relationships, that did not end in tragedy.

Now I dont think it was very common for high ranking men to actully marry their mistress in the end. John only did it after having 2 political marriages, he had done his duty and probably felt that he was free to do what he wanted the last few years of his life.

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I know that John's grandson Humphrey also married his mistress, Eleanor Cobham.

But she was later accused of using witchcraft to harm the king. So she was imprisoned for life, which was a mercy, beacuse she had still been the wife of the king's royal uncle and I think she was of noble birth..

But the other accused people that had been part of the "plot" suffered quite horrific painful ends.

So while it could have gone worse for her, she did not exactly have a happy ending.

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But as I said, marrying a mistress was not common, and I cant imagine it increased either over the years. Rather that it became even more uncommon.

But comparing the english and the french. In the Tudor era, Didn't the french court have a offical position for the king's mistress?

And they and their family was showered with gifts and she wielded real political power in the french court?

And that was seen as normal?

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Now I dont think its very weird that this happened.

Highborn and royals married for political reasons. It was a business trancation.

So if you are a king, why not have a mistress? No one can stop you. Your queen is mostly only their to give you heirs. The court are filled with beautiful and cultured women, and no one can really refuse.

So I am almost suprised that not every king had a mistress of some kind in their life, when they could. Thumbs up for those kings!

What makes it "unfair" is that both parties in an arranged marriage did it for political reasons, but only one of them are allowed to have lovers and have real romance. While the women was not suppose to get any of that.

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But I am a sucker for romance and good/happy endings!

So would be intrested in learning of any intresing romances that happened in the Tudor era, that did not end in poverty, tragedy or death...lol

Hearken, good people of England! On this day, we commemorate the momentous ascent of our noble King Henry VII to the throne, a sovereign whose wisdom and strength united our realm. Let us celebrate the dawn of the Tudor age, where peace reigns and prosperity flourishes. Raise your voices in gratitude and honor the legacy of a monarch who restored order and heralded a new era for our beloved land! Long live King Henry VII! Or as he shall be known now the Tudor intruder.

Sunday 10th November! The second series will be released on BBC iPlayer that day!

Wolf Hall Mirror and the Light BBC Series Two

This is what I believe would happen if Edward VI had lived. First, to pinpoint when he would die: its beloved Edward died of tuberculosis. If he hadn't, I believe Edward would die around 1613. When the boy king was 13, he started ruling his council more and more so there wouldn't be a delay in handing over the reins of power when he came of age. By 1557, Catholicism would be basically wiped out of England. Edward would need a queen; though plans had been made to marry him to the Queen of Scots or Henry II's daughter, they were both Catholics, and Edward wouldn't marry a Catholic. I think he would marry Elizabeth Vasa, a Swedish princess. Edward would also marry his sisters to Protestant countries to make alliances. Elizabeth would marry some German prince since, as a Protestant, she wouldn't mind marriage since her brother is alive and would find a good match for her. But as for Mary, even if her suitors were the most handsome men in all of Europe, she would never willingly marry a Protestant. However, by that point, Edward, who was long since tired of Mary's beliefs, would tell her she could either spend the rest of her life with her husband or inside the Tower of London. England's population would greatly increase as it would become one of the only countries in Europe where Protestants could live without fear of being persecuted. With so many people coming to England, Edward, who was the second king of Ireland, would want to make sure Ireland would be under English control and Protestant for centuries. English settlers would ensure Edward's vision. Mary, Queen of Scots, would still marry Francis II and still declare herself queen of England, but this has no real meaning as Edward is a strong ruler with many allies. By 1560, he would have sons: Henry, Prince of Wales, born in 1555, and Edward, Duke of York, born in early 1558. After the death of her husband, Mary would return to Scotland, but not long after, she was overthrown by Protestant Scottish lords with the help of the English. For helping to get rid of their Catholic queen, the Protestant Scottish lords declared Edward king of Scotland. Edward would help with the Dutch Revolt, angering Spain, as the French Wars of Religion ravaged France. There’s no way Edward doesn't invade France Spain still sends help, but by 1570, with help from French Protestants, a Swedish army, and German Protestants who wanted to see France turned into a reformed country, Paris was captured. For several more years, the war would continue until after the assassination of Henry III in 1578. The Protestants won, and in 1579, Edward VI was crowned king of France, with much of Northern France already under his control. Edward would spend the rest of his reign turning France Protestant, making the French nobility loyal to him. He would move the court to Paris and rule from there, having a regent role in England, perhaps his second son.

I am not very familier how the fashion and armour changed between eras.

I was reading a bit on the armor fashion kings had pre Tudor era.

And I was on Henry V (early 1400s)

And it seems Henry V wore a surcoat over his armor.

During the battle of Agincourt, Henry V (over his armour) wore a surcoat of the Royal Arms of England, quartered with the Fleur de Lys of France as a symbol of his claim to the throne of France

And I think he also wore a crown on his helmet

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Did kings or high ranking noblemen in the Tudor era also wear colorful surcoats when they went into battle?

The times when Henry VIII invaded France. Did he wear a crown helmet and a colorful surcoat with the Royal Arms of England?

Or had that gone out of fashion by that time?

I guess (?)they wore colorful surcoats to signal where you were to your allias. But that it was a double edged sword, beacuse the enemy could also see you clearly. Being the the most colorful dude on the battlefield.

So maybe they decided to remove the surcoat, to not be as an easy target?

Weapon: Hollow lance for improved shatterability upon impact. Only blunt-tipped lances allowed Blunt metal tips were sometimes fitted to reduce friction

Horse: Horses for jousting were very well treated and specifically trained for jousting. They were not ordinary horses.

Courtesy: The two players would dine together a day before a joust for entertainment (aka joust for peace). If the two were jousting to settle a dispute (joust for grudge), then the two may use battle lance and other real weapons together. Once a player got unseated, the two would proceed to ground melee until one yielded or died.

Grounds: The ground to the empty side of the traveling horse was often padded with sand. A wooden divider between the riders was strongly recommended since, without it, the two players would very likely collide in a pass.

Attack: It was considered disgraceful to hit one's opponent's horse in a pass. It was considered disgraceful to use unapproved weapons.

Further reading: https://knightstemplar.co/chivalry-and-valor-a-comprehensive-guide-to-medieval-jousting-rules-and-practices/

https://www.livescience.com/jousting

https://knightstemplar.co/lances-and-armor-the-primary-weapons-of-medieval-jousting/

https://www.worldhistory.org/Jousting/

Is CHATGPT a reliable place to ask "what if" questions about history? Henry VIII has always fascinated me. At first, it was his six wives, then I started to learn more about him. I didn't know he had a son for a while, but when I did, I thought Edward VI would be a lot like his father, but he wasn't. Interestingly, however, after learning, Henry FitzRoy looked and acted a lot like him. I started to wonder what if Edward was like Henry VIII—a strong warrior and something of a ladies' man. So I asked ChatGPT if Edward had lived and become an adult, who would he have as a mistress? It said Jane Grey, who I could see Edward marrying, but not taking as a mistress, as well as Anne Seymour. That's his aunt. I know she was ambitious, but I don't think even she would sleep with her nephew. That’s why I wanted to know if ChatGPT was reliable.

Hi! I’m in love with Tudor history and from my research one of the best biographies of Elizabeth is The life of Elizabeth I by Alison Weir. The thing is that I can’t find the audiobook ANYWHERE, I’m not from an English speaking country and I taught myself basically from hearing, so I can understand more by sounds. Could anyone please tell me where I can get the audiobook?

I feel there is no explanation for his crazy behaviour otherwise. Other Kings with stuffy personalities didn't act that crazily.

I saw a documentary about the health of King Henry, and it well known that he was not even slightly healthy at the time of his death.

The doc also talked about how he had a major accident. If I remember correctly it was a jousting accident that insulted into him being knocked out for a while because his horse fell on him.

The accident began the beginning of his leg ulcers and his lifestyle just made it worse.

However, if I remember correctly, there was a theory that this jousting accident also caused a personality change in him.

He clearly had problems. His wives were not the only ones that he was bad too. His children and men in his life didn’t fair much better.

Was he really that much better before the accident that this could be true?

I’m also not saying this justifies his actions or makes him a victim. I want to make that clear.

I read this on quora: "The Duke of Norfolk in Henry VIII's time offered Thomas Cromwell his wife or another woman if Cromwell wanted sex for an overnight stay. It might have been a sick joke or an insult, because Norfolk hated Cromwell and he was beastly to his own wife. To the Duke, Cromwell was a low-born upstart with too much influence on the King. Yet Cromwell was a powerful man and Norfolk seldom had the King's friendship."

Is there any source for this statement, and if the event did happen what was the context behind it? I have a hard time accepting the idea that an aristocratic man would just offer his wife to another man. It just doesn't seem likely because what 16th century aristocrat would want to stain the honor of his wife like that? They lived in a world where the legitimacy of your heirs mattered and wives were supposed to be faithful to their husbands.

How would she react to the french "War of Religion" ? And what would she have done? What are the consequences of her being Queen of France, for 20 more years?

And it seems like the last Valois maybe had a health or fertility issues, or simply very bad luck.

So maybe Mary would have a child with Francis, who knows. Maybe, maybe not.