He will be loved by many, he will be arrogant, he will be mortally wounded, he will bring an end to sacrifice. He will sit on the throne and proclaim to be God. He will work miracles, cause the blind to see and the lame to walk. He will fool even the most elect.

Elon musk using trump as a figurehead.

Loved by many around the world.

Elon musks neuralink in gematric is 666. Neuralink translated to greek is Νευραλίνκ. We do this because greek can be properly translated to gematrics. This total is 666. It can help the blind to see and lame to walk.

Trump was shot in the ear. As far as I know of, musk has not gotten a mortal wound, and cannot lead due to nationalities, thus why trump is his figurehead.

He will fool even the most elect. Tell me the cybertruck is anything good...or an electrical vehicle considering batteries have a limited life and number of recharges so eventually your car will be a paperweight till you can get a brand new battery thats over half the cost of the car. Enjoy that one lol.

Trumps end to income tax. Income tax is supposed to be a sacrifice we all make to upkeep our society. This will only benefit wealthy investors and buisness owners. You will pay an arm and a leg in taxes due to the fact that wealthy people will basically pay nothing now towards society while the rest of us already pay too much for everything and now we will be taxed to no end because rich pewant to become richer.

The fact so many follow him like he will save is is creepy and raises a lot of red flags.

This year for many reasons, I decided to study politics and really grow in the knowledge of it. I'm starting to regret doing so in some ways.

As a conservative individual, who studies the law of our God , I'm troubled by the current state of the Government and the people. A year ago I did not know what the term liberal meant, and much less the beliefs liberal people have. I'm a bit embarrassed by the fact of it, but I'm slowly understanding more and more. I'm beginning to have a strong distaste in liberal individuals, because of their life views. I've come to understand that liberals are individuals that not only reject God's law, but they also defend their sinful view with a strong zeal.

To not extend the post to much.. I feel overwhelmed by the current state of Americans. Realizing from a different angle how vastly the conservative and the liberal view really are. A part of me can't seem to comprehend how they're Christians who could vote for the current Democratic party. Those democrats embody the views of the liberals, therefore desiring to push policies that further showcase the wicked desires of this fallen world. I won't go into details, I'm sure many understand what I mean. In the light of this I feel like I need to take a step back, and not get carried away with politics. If anything I feel like it only shows me how sin continues to grow in the heart of the atheist. They are accusing Christians of hate speech in unprecedented levels, and in the near future worse things will come to happen.

Politics today has really opened my eyes, and it further points to the imminent persecution of Christians, because we stand in our faith. Wickedness continues to grow and soon our upcoming generations will feel the brunt of it. Not that long ago I implored people in this sub to go out and vote, even though I still stand on that, I can now understand why the majority in here do not involve themselves in politics.

I saw this one on Facebook and it spoke to the kind of candidate I'm looking for as a Christian.

Neither of the leading candidates does this perfectly but the scales tip for me.

I've noticed there are a lot of single issue voter comments in this sub. Most often around abortion.

Understanding that there are no candidates that encompass everything we want, I'm really curious what you're looking for in an ideal candidate.

What do y’all think about this statement? Is it one you agree with or don’t agree with? I’m curious what my fellow brother and sisters in Christ believe.

In my previous post about P2025, I discussed how P2025’s underlying agenda is essentially the oligarch’s decades-old neoliberal economic program – thinly disguised as a Christian Nationalist manifesto.

Neoliberalism is an economic philosophy which argues that the rich should be allowed to pursue their business interests, making the maximum possible profit, w/o any interference from the government. Ultimately, neoliberalism is like a substitute religion – it is the idolization of greed.

On its surface, P2025 may look like a plan to empower white christian nationalism but the real underlying agenda is to convince right-wing voters to cede political power to the oligarchy. See Trump’s Agenda 47 – it is just a dumbed down version of P2025 that outlines the fascist, anti-egalitarian steps that a prospective 2nd Trump administration would immediately implement to put the oligarchy's plan into action. If the oligarchy can install and command an all-powerful presidency, they will control the nation and by extension, the world - it is the anti-Christ's dream. Disregard Trump’s lies, voting for Trump is voting for Project 2025; voting for your own enslavement to an authoritarian government.

Racist Propaganda – the magik dust luring white christian nationalists to their spiritual deaths

P2025 is really a roadmap for creating consent among low-information, right-wing, pseudo-Christian voters for the installation of the billionaire’s neoliberal authoritarian (fascist) government in the United States. P2025 uses propaganda to falsely argue that every Federal Government agency and department has been taken over from within by left-wingers (i.e., educated people) who are somehow forcing wokeism and CRT (i.e., anti-racism) on “team white America.” Such propaganda is so crass and juvenile that it is hard to fathom that so many people calling themselves christians could ever fall for it.

Definition: Propaganda is information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view. Simply put, propaganda is a means of spreading lies to demonize one’s chosen political victims / enemies. The BIBLE plainly states that those who love and promote lies will be damned. Rev 21:8, Rev 22:14-15

The entire rationale given in P2025 for its goal of “dismantling the administrative state,” is the entirely ludicrous idea that “wokeism” and “CRT” have somehow undermined the ability of every government agency to carry out its function - so therefore, 50,000 federal government employees should be immediately fired and replaced with unknowledgeable, inexperienced, incompetent maga loyalists. Supposedly, this adolescently foolish idea would put America “back on track.”

The real intention, if implemented, would be for this cadre of right-wing loyalists to hinder the enforcement of the laws and regulations put in place to protect the public against the demonic greed of the oligarchy and the racism of local white supremacists at the state level. Of course, in actual practice, this would bring the Federal Government to a standstill – endangering every citizen in the United States as the new employees would simply not know how to do their jobs.

What does CRT actually mean? The Racist lies regarding CRT…

It is remarkable that no space could be found anywhere among the 922 pages of the P2025 document for a glossary of terms, i.e., definitions. This was, of course, intentional and necessary because P2025 uses many terms whose original meanings have been distorted for propagandistic purposes by the billionaire controlled right-wing media complex. Terms repeatedly used in P2025 as racist dog whistles include:

• Critical Race Theory (CRT)
• Woke (wokeism/wokeness/awokening – note the sophomoric, made-up words)
• Diversity Equity and Inclusion (DEI)
• Social Justice

By now, most people have seen at least one online video where racist right-wing talking heads are unable to give any sort of coherent definition for terms like “CRT” and “Woke.” For instance, this supposed author of a book attacking “wokeness,” went viral for not being able to actually explain wokeness to an interviewer. Understand, however, the actual meanings of these dog whistles have become irrelevant – both to those spinning the propaganda and to those who have been brainwashed into accepting the lies. To the right-wing audience, CRT and woke are now just code words meant to evoke an emotional response – white racists irrationally feel that any mention of their racism against Black Americans is racism against them. In other words, a large segment of the American public has declared that it is determined to remain unrepentant and will never acknowledge America’s sinful history of genocide and racism.

Critical Race Theory, or CRT, is an academic and legal framework that denotes that systemic racism is part of American society — from education and housing to employment and healthcare. Critical Race Theory recognizes that racism is more than the result of individual bias and prejudice. It is essentially an academic response to the erroneous notion that American society and institutions are “colorblind.”

P2025 is largely based on the lie that CRT is racism against white people and is so pervasive that it threatens white nationalists at every level of society. CRT is actually a graduate level law school course. It has never been part of any K-12 public school curriculum, yet P2025 pretends that their false definition of CRT (i.e., that anti-racism is anti-white america) is being taught in public schools, to the military, in business, and in the government. This is an utter falsehood, but satan’s lie machine has chosen to make a straw man out of their false, ill-defined characterization of CRT – something that they can attack as being “anti-white” in order to tar their selected enemies.

The redefined “code” words used as propaganda by the authors of P2025 are meant to make white supremacists feel attacked and therefore justified in their racist actions and beliefs. They are being deceived into accepting (or more likely into simply ignoring) the implications of the P2025 agenda that would eventually destroy their own freedoms – all for nothing more than the mere promise of being able to feel like part of “team white America.” The strategy of the entire document seems to follow the sad truth of LBJ’s famous quote about the psychology of petty, mean-spirited American racists.

LBJ: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

Outro: What Trump voters are actually voting for…

Buy now, most voters probably see Trump as a ridiculous, mindless, selfish, greasy, orange rape pig. Many however, will still vote for him because to some degree, they are not voting for Trump anymore; what they are actually voting for is Trump’s embrace of their racism. Simply put, America’s Trump voters are voting for white supremacy. P2025 promises white christian nationalist America that they will be given the power to officially continue their pretense that America is not a racist country and through the utter hypocrisy of legalized "colorblindness," that they will be allowed to economically, socially, and politically disenfranchise Blacks and other minorities while pretending that race has nothing to do with it. The oligarchs are telling America’s white nationalists that they will allow them to practice their racism in exchange for allowing them – the billionaires – to control the government and economy via dictatorship.

It is a devil’s bargain. The sponsors of P2025 are pied pipers leading their deceived minions to hell by appealing to their hypocritical un-christian racist pride. Pro 16:5, Pro 16:18

I'm a conservative Christian who loves chatting about all kinds of stuff like geography, politics, and history. I'm an open book, so don't be shy - hit me up!

How so you deal with the judgment that the conservative party pushes. For Christians conservatives it can be very hard to navigate because of the sin so normalized everywhere.

If your wondering what sin I'm referent, I tell you.

Jesus said if we don't forgive we will be forgiven. Also if we call someone a fool we are in danger of hell fire.

Another example is Jesus said to love our enemies and bless those who despitfuly use us.

The last one is, Jesus said every careless word will be taken into account on judgment day, a lot of the political party is very worldly with the way they speak and thr actions.

I want to lead us In prayer, Jesus bless America and teach us to be patient and intentional. Guide us with wisdom and let us not walk in pride but humbleness, I ask that you teach us patients. Thank you Jesus amen

Most Christian American voters, if asked, "Do you want a Christian theocracy in America?" would say no.

But many of these Christian voters are the same ones who support Oklahoma requiring the Bible to be taught in schools, who want abortion banned, who want gay marriage overturned, etc.

At a certain point, this starts to.......turn into a theocracy. So my question is, do we want a theocracy or not? And if we don't, then at what point do we have a Christian-led government in America that approaches, or starts to turn into a theocracy?

The divine economy refers to God’s provision of instructions and guidance to humanity. Sometimes, this guidance is delivered through dreams, at other times through covenants and prophets, and, in their absence, through conscience. Although God does not actively manage every aspect of the world, He provides a framework of moral and spiritual principles for people to follow or reject. This approach respects human free will, allowing individuals and societies to make their own decisions while holding them accountable for their actions.

Zechariah 11 vividly illustrates what happens when divine guidance is rejected. Through symbolic actions and prophetic messages, Zechariah highlights the consequences of turning away from God’s instructions and embracing corrupt and exploitative leaders. This chapter serves as a powerful critique of the failures in leadership and the resulting judgment, offering insights that are relevant both to the historical context of Israel and to modern societies in the end times.

Moreover, Zechariah 11 is a prophetic passage that uses symbolic actions and vivid imagery to convey themes of judgment, leadership, and betrayal. The chapter begins with a call for Lebanon to open its doors to a consuming fire, symbolizing divine judgment on the land (verses 1-3). Zechariah is then instructed to shepherd a flock doomed to slaughter, representing the people of Israel who are being exploited by their leaders (verses 4-6). He takes two staffs, Favor and Union, symbolizing God’s covenant and unity with the people, and breaks them to signify the end of the covenant and the division between the people of Judah and Israel (verses 7-14). The chapter concludes with a prophecy about a foolish shepherd who will neglect and exploit the flock, leading to further suffering and judgment (verses 15-17).

The initial prophecy in Zechariah 11 was fulfilled through the historical events that led to the downfall of the people of Israel and Judah. The breaking of the staffs, Favor and Union, symbolized the end of God’s covenant with the people due to their unfaithfulness and the resulting division and disunity. The removal of corrupt leaders and the rise of a foolish shepherd represented the failure of leadership and the exploitation of the people. This led to a period of judgment where the people faced the consequences of their actions, including the loss of divine protection and the suffering that followed.

In the context of the last days, Zechariah’s prophecy can be seen as a foreshadowing of the circumstances that will arise when societies reject divine guidance in favor of secular humanistic systems. The increasing secularization of societies can be viewed as a parallel to the rejection of God’s covenant in Zechariah’s time. Just as the people of Israel faced judgment for their unfaithfulness, modern societies will face similar consequences for abandoning divine moral responsibilities and embracing secular humanism.

Zechariah’s warnings about false shepherds and the consequences of rejecting God’s guidance remain relevant to contemporary issues of leadership and morality. The rise of secularism and the rejection of Christianity can be seen as a form of these false shepherds, leading people away from spiritual truths and resulting in moral and spiritual decline. This prophecy reminds us of the importance of faithful leadership and the need to uphold divine principles amidst societal changes.

Zechariah 11 provides a powerful critique of corrupt leadership and a warning of the dire consequences that follow when societies reject divine guidance. The fulfillment of the initial prophecy disrupted the divine economy, leading to judgment and suffering. This prophecy also foreshadows events of the last days, when faithful and just leadership are lacking, leaving none to maintain the divine economy.

Noteworthy is the connection between Zechariah 11:12-13 and Judas Iscariot’s betrayal of Jesus for thirty pieces of silver, which is often seen as a prophetic foreshadowing. In Zechariah 11, the prophet is instructed to act out a symbolic drama. He asks for his wages, and the people give him thirty pieces of silver, which he then throws to the potter in the house of the Lord. This act symbolizes the people’s valuation of Zechariah’s (and, by extension, Jesus’) worth. Notably, thirty pieces of silver was the price of a slave according to Exodus 21:32, underscoring the contempt and low regard with which this payment was viewed.

In the New Testament, Judas Iscariot agrees to betray Jesus for thirty pieces of silver (Matthew 26:14-16). After realizing the gravity of his betrayal, Judas returns the silver to the chief priests and elders, who use it to buy the potter’s field (Matthew 27:3-10). This act is seen as a fulfillment of the prophecy in Zechariah. The thirty pieces of silver in Zechariah represent a contemptuous valuation, which parallels the betrayal price for Jesus. The act of throwing the silver to the potter signifies rejection and disdain, mirroring Judas’s regret and the subsequent use of the money to buy a potter’s field. The fact that thirty pieces of silver was the price of a slave adds a significant layer of meaning, highlighting the depth of the betrayal and the fulfillment of prophetic symbolism.

By paying Judas thirty pieces of silver, the priests and the elders in effect paid for Jesus’ services as if he were a slave, thereby relieving themselves of any further obligation to him. As far as they were concerned, he was not the promised Messiah—the one whom they were obligated by law to accept. In their view, they owed no debt to God for their sins. They believed their own righteousness was sufficient to place them in a favorable position before God. They actually thought the Messiah, when he arrived, would report to them and re-establish the glory of the old monarchy devoid of Roman control and restore to them their full power as priests, which the Romans had severely curtailed.

Despite poring over the scriptures, they had no understanding of the purpose for which the Messiah was to come. This proved to be their undoing and led them to provide the sacrifice that would atone for sins; thus, in their ignorance, they offered the sacrifice that God had provided in exchange for thirty pieces of silver. After Judas tried to return it, they refused to accept it, acknowledging that it was the purchase price for the blood of a slave.

Just as the priests and elders were incapable of understanding the scriptures, the rulers of this world today are blind to the true nature of Jesus’ mission, which is spiritual rather than political. For this reason, they have no place in the Divine economy.

With all the arguments about Christian Nationalism and politics happening, I wanted to compile a list of "theses" summarizing why I believe the thinking behind Christian Nationalism is contrary to the gospel, and what a gospel-centered way of living in the modern world looks like.

My goal is posting here is for discussion. If you think something here is wrong, or something should be worded differently, or something is missing, say so. Like with Luther's theses, I think a comprehensive summary of these arguments and ideas would be helpful.

1. Jesus is Lord, now and forever

2. Because He is Lord, He must be obeyed irrespective of whether or not following Him will lead to a decrease in the wealth, power, influence, social status, or pride of any individual Christian, any church, or any Christian community of any size.

3. Because He is Lord now and forever, there can be no special circumstances under which Christians' duty to obey Him becomes less important, now or in the future.

4. Jesus is infinitely more concerned with how faithfully His followers obey Him than with how much wealth, power, and status they have.

5. The way to live as Christ wishes in our public life is to obey Christ's commands.

6. If God gets something good out of something evil, the original evil is not excused.

7. Jesus, his first apostles, and the early church endured poverty, public humiliation, political powerlessness , and the lowest social status in their communities. Enduring these things did not excuse them from obedience. Similarly, no such concerns can excuse us.

8. It is not weakness to obey the Lord's commands to love one's enemies, turn the other cheek, and embrace the meekness that Jesus called blessed. It is instead the kind of true, heavenly strength that Christ Himself exhibited in defiance of the world's flawed ideas of strength.

9. Faith that is coerced by money or power or social pressure, or expressed for the purpose of personal gain, is false faith.

10. False faith is worse than a lack of faith, because it is a lie.

11. False faith does not glorify God in any way.

12. To say that Christians need to be powerful or wealthy or victorious is to denigrate faith. Faith says that Christ is enough, his promises are enough, his commands are enough.

13. To say Christians need to be powerful in order to promote faith in Christ is to denounce Christ himself as insufficient, or foolish.

14. The notion that power or wealth are signs of virtue is to ignore the teachings of Scripture and to denigrate Christ himself, and his apostles, who possessed neither wealth nor worldly power.

15. The best indication that a person is led by the Spirit is that they exhibit the fruit of the Spirit - love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.

16. We do not spread or advance the gospel by disobeying it. The teachings and commands of Christ must never be forsaken or compromised for the sake of wealth, power, or worldly approval, even if those things may be used to expand, enrich, or empower a church or Christian community.

17. We do not protect the Church by disobeying Christ or the gospel. Obedience to Christ is the primary purpose of the Church. Without obedience to Christ, there is no faithful Church to protect.

18. When Christians put aside the teachings of Christ, it harms the spread of the gospel, because the world is not shown a true version of the gospel.

19. Christ has overcome the world. Thus, the world cannot eradicate the gospel.

20. The Lord loves justice and hates injustice.

21. All people being equal under the law is justice; leaders or specific groups being above the law is injustice and lawlessness.

22. Jesus's kingdom is not of this world.

23. Thus, no nation or community on earth today occupies a special place in God's estimation, nor should any nation's cultures and traditions be assumed to especially align to God's desires.

24. Christians have no basis to demand or expect greater power, higher social status, or legal deference within any nation or society by virtue of being Christian.

25. No modern political leader has more of a claim to having been placed in leadership by God than any other political leader.

26. The basis of all moral law and ethics is to love God and love one's neighbor. Thus, a Christian with the right to vote should seek to vote in a way that honors God by serving their neighbor.

I've been following this sub for a couple of months, and I'm not sure what I expected. I guess I've been looking for a sub with people who, while not perfect, don't use imperfection to justify hate, intolerance, slander, debauchery, etc, etc. I just want to say that I recognize that some of my comments and responses to comments have been overly critical, and I apologize for that.

This is because the zygote can divide into monozygotic twins twelve days after the fusion, and sperm and ova were not discovered until more than a millennium after the Bible was written, respectively with the microscope and the naked eye.

A common rebuttal to this is that worms are alive and can split and then become two lives, and that if people hypothetically could split at any point, then that would not mean that people are never alive because they can split.

My response is “Why does life begin at fusion?”. Most people’s answer is because this is the point of no return when its individual identity is determined. Since you give that particular reason, I use the same reason to say that life begins when it is one cellular division too late for twinning, because that it is when its individual identity(s) is/are determined. It is the earliest detectable developmental continuum that can be traced backward from birth. To insist that it is at fusion is no less arbitrary than to say that the sperm and ovum are already people before the acrosome digests the sperm head and their chromosomes fuse.

Furthermore, it can bastula/gastrula/morula can divide into conjoined twins or monozygotic triplets even later than the twelve days or have a parasitic twin, and potentially even conjoined triplets or monozygotic quadruplets even later than that, and potentially even monozygotic quintuplets even later than that, and so forth. In fact, someone in South America gave birth to ten at once, and someone in Mexico was pregnant with eleven at once. Inversely, zygotes can also fuse to form chimeras, which is another argument that life does not begin until after fusion, for the same reason why people argue that it begins at fusion of gametes.

It feels like I can't go to either Christian or non-Christian subreddits without getting downvoted and spammed with hate messages for expressing a conservative viewpoint, even in Christian communities. Many of the Christian subreddits also seem to lean more liberal, which makes it tough to share conservative perspectives."

This is a complex question, but at what point did it escalate to the extent that people have difficulty tolerating each other, particularly in Western countries like America and Western Europe?

Bombshell immunity filing details Trump's alleged 'increasingly desperate' bid to overturn 2020 election.

Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, in a blockbuster court filing Wednesday aimed at defending Smith's prosecution of Trump following the Supreme Court's July immunity ruling.

Trump intentionally lied to the public, state election officials, and his own vice president in an effort to cling to power after losing the election, while privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy," prosecutors alleged in the 165-page filing.

"When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office," the filing said. "With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost."

When Trump's effort to overturn the election through lawsuits and fraudulent electors failed to change the outcome of the election, prosecutors allege that the former president fomented violence, with prosecutors describing Trump as directly responsible for "the tinderbox that he purposely ignited on January 6."

"The defendant also knew that he had only one last hope to prevent Biden's certification as President: the large and angry crowd standing in front of him. So for more than an hour, the defendant delivered a speech designed to inflame his supporters and motivate them to march to the Capitol," Smith wrote.

I don't know who this could possibly be news to, since those of us that are never-trumpers already know this, and the maga folks really don't care. There appears to be quite a lot of them that would be happy to grab their guns and just end democracy for good.

I love my brothers and sisters in Christ regardless of their political leanings, but this isn't political. This is a question of rule of law, honorable service, and common decency. This is a question of wrecking the country for the sake of one guy that doesn't even deserve votes, nevermind the presidency. The constitution and the laws that support and expand it, have made this country great for a couple-hundred years now. I couldn't care less about Harris/Walz, but at least they're still Americans. The Republican party I grew up in and supported my whole life is, at this point, toxic to the health of the democracy. Nixon had nothing on this guy.

If anybody questions that statement, read the story, study the evidence.