As a recently hatched chick and a product of american public education, the concept is confusing to me. But I'd like to learn more - as a lot of really thoughtful queer friends I have are into it.

I am already all aboard for gender anarchy - are these the same things or is there more to it? Ty in advance!

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Hello! I would like to get a grasp on what gender abolitionism is and if there's any theory that I could get my hands on? I'm a trans guy for context. My current understanding of gender abolition is that it serves largely as a long term goal and that any effective gender abolition action would require firstly addressing things like toxic masculinity and etc to effectively & safely de-gender spaces. Is it always about complete degendering or more questioning why certain things are gendered or not? I'm trying to figure out feminism atm since I'm aware my feminism up to date has been fairly liberal and superficial and I'm just looking to deepen my understanding.

has anyone else gotten dogpiled in there for calling out transphobia? there isn't even a rule against it which seems absurd for a sub against stuff being gendered

Recently I've been realising how the bigger trans subs value stories of trans suffering over trans joy and it feels alienating. hope i'm not the only one to notice this.

I am sure this document looks pretty, but I have not structured the content very formally. I am just seeking to address a problem, and request your feedback. So, please be gentle.

Couple days ago someone posted a visualization of "every disorder in the DSM-5". I posted a comment that read

And being trans not one of them. A friendly reminder

I was downvoted to hell, and got several angry replies. I ended up being temporarily banned from the sub.

No I don't make dialog with transphobes. But I was also attacked by allies and trans-medicalists. So, I came up with some realizations.

Realization 1: The toxicity surrounding trans issues clouds the judgement of our activists and allies

I had to respond to an ally who said that I was being a snide bigot and that my comment was not innocent at all.

But when I revealed my trans status as a response, I got another spadeful of scorn for "me being trans doesn't make me correct" and similar.

Then I was criticized for being a "tucute" which still makes me wonder whether some people make an identity out of a medical diagnosis. But this really is not the point here.

The fact that an ally misread this comment as bigotry really made me lose faith in humanity.

Realization 2: We are all wasting time and resources making memes for self consumption.

People in the sub, some of which benevolent (one corrected themselves), cannot tell apart crossdressing, being trans, and gender dysphoria.

Among the most ignorant of the commentaries was the following:

Why is transvestic disorder under paraphilias? Shouldn't it be under gender dysphoria?

And responding to individual transphobes online, and tagging them with Shinigami eyes, is time consuming, mentally tolling, and - from a strategic standpoint - inefficient.

Listen people, all your wrath goes in vain. Just put your energy in ORGANIZING, EDUCATING, and AGITATING. Like a JOB. This. Is. The. Only. Way.

Realization 3: DSM-5 are assholes for the whole Gender Dysphoria ordeal.

> Then what abnormality causes them to be trans.
ME: The same that causes some people to be cis, I said
> Cis is normal

The number of people that pointed me to the Gender Dysphoria diagnosis was ridiculous. Some were, as I said, benevolent.

One was like "I was wrong after all". They found out that Gender Dysphoria is not synonymous with Being Trans. But most people don't make the distinction. They can't even tell apart crosdressers from trans women.

Someone said:

But Gender Dysphoria is the cause they become trans.

So the American Psychiatric Associations are the AH here, because they kept the term, and made it way too nuanced for the general public to tell the difference. ("Being trans is not a problem in itself, but we keep the term so that trans people can have access to care.").

Yes, their rationaly is somewhat fine, for literate people. But for most people, Gender Dysphoria is just a euphemism for all trannies and transvestites, lumped together. So, the APA shat the bed, in my opinion.

Final Remark

We are in deep shit. We have to organize locally, and fight. We have to inform, we have to educate, we have to agitate.

Transitioning not only is not a mental illness, but it improves outcomes for most trans people.

Nothing has been done, as far the minds of all these people. Even supportive people they maintain beliefs of pathologization, mixed together with a tolerant stance.

I am personally not OK with any of these.

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