If Venom is still "alive," would that mean Venom would have to find a new host? since with Eddie they already have a codex? ( idk if I'm just dumb but I am just asking. )

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We'll miss you Venom!!

I’ve been trying to pretend it’s good, but I can’t. It’s bad. It is a bad movie. The cgi is a downgrade from the previous movies, the pacing is awful, we didn’t even get to see Eddie’s initial reaction to Venom’s death, and I’ll be honest, I’m not a fan of the surprising amount of gore. The other symbiotes are so under-utilized, the jokes aren’t very funny, the action is mid, the writing is too, not saved by the albeit good acting. The stuff with the detective had really wasted potential, so did the stuff with Eddie killing that lady. They mentioned it like two times after the fact, and Tom Hardy’s voice for Venom has only gotten worse since the first movie. The goods are few, the acting is pretty good, the music is fine, the designs are ok, and the stuff with Knull was pretty good.

VENOM: THE LAST DANCE – An IMAX 3D Experience

* Seen on Thursday, October 24th, 2024. Constant work at home kept me delayed from writing this review.

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The first VENOM premiered in 2018 and kicked off the so-called Sony’s Spider-Man Universe… with no Spider-Man of course. This was followed by the great and underwhelming in comparison of a sequel titled VENOM: LET THERE BE CARNAGE. And then MORBIUS and MADAME WEB happened and while I liked them, we all know most people don’t and they bombed at the box-office. My gripe with this universe is that not only is there no official Spider-Man, but it’s not going the way I want it too with all the hate these movies receive. Well, the non-VENOM movies get the most hate. That and the terrible end credit scenes of the last VENOM movie and MORBIUS connecting to the incredibly overrated and not-very-dark Marvel Cinematic Universe as an attempt to appeal to everyone. So, what did I think of Tom Hardy’s supposed “last dance” as Eddie Brock and his symbiote pal Venom?

Let’s start at the beginning where in between the “Columbia Pictures 100 Years” logo and the “In Association With Marvel” logo, there is a badass sequence featuring the origin of Knull, the creator of the symbiotes who seeks the codex carried by Eddie and Venom to free himself from the prison his creations trapped him in long ago. This is followed by a retconned version of Eddie and Venom in the MCU version of Mexico mentioning “the purple alien who likes stones”, which is a big eyeroll for those who love and hate the MCU, only to be transported back home with Venom saying “Enough of this multiverse bull----!” and I don’t blame him. Then comes the main part of the story where Eddie and Venom are still on the run after the death of Stephen Graham’s character Patrick Mulligan who is actually still alive and captured by an organization called Imperium in the soon-to-be-decommissioned Area 51 where he is now the host of a green symbiote. As both Eddie and Venom are fugitives, they deal with a bigger problem in the form of Xenophages, monsters sent by Knull into the universe to track the codex. This leads them into a buddy comedy-like road trip where they encounter Chiwetel Ejiofor as the Imperium commander Rex Strickland, Juno Temple as passionate scientist Dr. Teddy Payne, Clark Backo as researcher Sadie Christmas, Rhys Ifans as a hippie and alien enthusiast father Martin Moon, and a reunion with Peggy Lu’s fan-favorite character Mrs. Chen living it up in Vegas.

The first VENOM was going for a somewhat-serious tone with a Venom who sounded demonic and awesome, but with unintentional comedy between Eddie and Venom. That banter has gotten so popular that they amped it up in LET THERE BE CARNAGE to the point that it can get exhausting and there wasn’t enough Carnage. Not to mention that Venom and Carnage only had one fight with each other before the former ate the latter. All that and the mid-credits scene made that movie not as great as the first. So, what is THE LAST DANCE like?

A lot of people won’t agree with me on this, but I thought it was just a fun time. It’s just behind if not as great as the original. I mean for an end to a trilogy, you’ve got to raise the stakes. It can be slow at times that I can admit. But those who thought the movie was safe, generic, boring, terrible, and don’t like the supporting characters have either lost their minds or have no sense of fun. There may not be a lot of Venom action compared to the first two movies, but it’s still there. The two characters go full-on Venom mode dealing with scumbag dogfighters, the military, and the final act with the Xenophages. The results are intense. While we all know how ridiculous these movies can be, even unintentionally, this movie just amps up the ridiculousness. We already know about a Venom horse, but how about a Venom fish and a Venom frog? They literally have one of Queen’s best songs “Don’t Stop Me Now” during the Venom horse scene and in Vegas before the final act, Venom and Mrs. Chen dance to an epic remix of ABBA’s “Dancing Queen”. That’s how nuts it can get and it’s fun.

Without giving much away, the final act becomes bonkers with badass symbiote action not just from Venom, but other symbiotes as well. There are also some heartfelt moments with Eddie and Venom’s friendship with the Moon family as they get involved and it all culminates with what feels like an end of an era or an end of a comic book arc. Like if you don’t feel anything during the ending, you probably don’t have a heart. Then again, this movie is for the fans. Not for the critics.

I currently don’t know what the future holds for Sony’s Spider-Man Universe, but writer and director Kelly Marcel said that while this is the end of Eddie Brock and Venom’s story, this is the beginning of Knull. He doesn’t get much screen time, but that’s because he’s too epic, powerful, and dangerous for one movie. His story will continue in future movies and who better to play him than LET THERE BE CARNAGE director and king of the motion capture himself Andy Serkis. He is incredibly intimidating and I can’t wait to see what he does next. Well, as long as there’s no more MCU connections in the future.

I already mentioned my biggest issues with the entire Sony universe, but I will say that my biggest gripe with the three VENOM movies is how long the end credits are. Seriously. The first movie had 20 minutes of credits including it’s awesome mid-credits scene and the sneak peek of SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE. The second movie had around 11 minutes of credits including the mid-credits scene that I hate so much. This movie had about 20 minutes of credits including an exciting mid-credits scene involving Knull and a scene right after the closing logos that felt incredibly pointless. My other issue with these movies was the death of Jenny Slate’s character Dr. Dora Skirth in the first movie that felt open-ended because she said she was afraid of what would happen to her family and because she was becoming Eddie’s friend. Like did her family get compensated for her murder? Did the Life Foundation shut down? Does Eddie even know that she was killed? It’s the one thing that should’ve been addressed in the sequels or better yet… they shouldn’t have killed her at all. #JusticeForDoraSkirth

I still love these movies and THE LAST DANCE is either as great or just behind the first movie. It’s hard to say because the first movie is my second favorite film of 2018 and this movie is just under my Top 3 current favorites of the year so far and it might go a little lower. Let’s just say 2024 is a great year for movies. Do I wish the VENOM trilogy was rated R? Well yeah and funnily enough, when the original was first announced in 2017, it was said that Sony’s plan was to make an R-rated cinematic universe based on Spider-Man characters. Five movies in and they’re all PG-13 with the next movie KRAVEN THE HUNTER finally giving us an R-rated Spider-Man villain movie. Heck, there was once a rumor that Sony would make an R-rated animated Venom movie. That would be tight! Regardless, these are great movies if you turn down your brain and lower your expectations. Again, this movie is for the fans. Tom Hardy is a great Eddie Brock even though he’s more comedic than we imagined and this final chapter gives him a satisfying conclusion if this is indeed the end. The film as a whole is epic, ridiculous, exciting, has an emotional ending, and has a great soundtrack. I cannot wait to see it again at home. Now let’s see what KRAVEN is like.

~ 9 out of 10 ~
* rating subject to change

I'm currerntly working on a Ultimate Universe styled Marvel au and I wanted reddit's opinion on whether or not I cooked with my new take on Andi Benton/Scream. Since that went well, I wanted to share an another character for Reddit's opinion. Behold, The Notorious Agent Carnage Alpha (P.S. The Alpha refers to my au being called the Alpha Universe):

Cletus Kassidy is a name that strikes fear into the hearts of anyone who hears it. The serial killer with the alien symbiote has been terrorizing the Alpha Universe for many years but he hs finally been captured. Unfortunately, his captors are none other than HYDRA. They take and study his DNA and the symbiote. Eventually, Carnage breaks out of their containment. However, they have enough DNA to make a clone of Kassidy. Due to an error in the genetic coding, the clone comes out female. The clone is trained in every form of combat. HYDRA released the Carnage clone to kill Deadpool. During their fight, Deadpool asks why the clone is doing this when her makers never gave her anything, not even a name. This strikes a nerve in the clone and she breaks down. After their encounter, she decides to abandon HYDRA and set off on her own. After months of searching, she finds her clone father. She is disgusted by the horrid man that HYDRA wanted her to be like. At that moment she decides on who she wants to be. Gwendolynn Cassidy, a lethal protector. Someone who strikes fear into the hearts of evil with force. In that moment, New York has a new defender: The Notorious Agent Carnage Alpha!

I assume Vol.3 ends around the time Eddie and The Other get separated,

He becomes Anti-Venom and the other joins the Dark Avengers

Vol.5 would be Agent Venom and Mike Costa reunion which would lead to Cates run, I assume

Is there a TPB format read order of these yet to be unmade Venomnibussies

I’ve been seeing a rumor that captions in some theaters are saying that the Green Bean Symbiote actually IS Toxin. Can anyone confirm this?

This is mostly asking for writing advice when it comes to the venom symbiote and it's relationship to my Spider-Man. So to start with, I should probably do some explaining.

I have these ideas for a marvel universe/ story that specifically focuses on a Spider-Man ( an oc) who along with hie sinister 6 ( doc Ock, kraven the hunter, rhino, shocker, scorpion, mysterio) gets transported to a different universe that along with multiple differences( superheroes/ superhumans have only began to get public trust because most of them are treated how mutants are treated in most continuities. This universe has a spider woman who's in her mid 20s to early 30s who more or less has her life worked out and everything). The oc Spider-Man and the sinister 6 get used to this new world while trying to get home. Then some big multiverse stuff happens, the Spider-Man ( who'd be like 16) has to do the world's worst trolley problem and sacrifice his world to save every other universe. This results in him having massive guilt and burning his suit.

In comes the symbiote who accidentally crosses paths with our Spider-Man because of it hitching a ride to earth on a space ship that the Spider-Man helps to crash safely. The symbiote then talks to the Spider-Man and the two bond, out of the fact that they feel like they don't belong. The Spider-Man also names the symbiote v (vee) after the first initial of the spacecrafts name.

Here's where I'm having a problem with, I'm trying to decide because of how this Spider-Man is( he has self loathing problems, but also feels like he still needs to be a hero despite him feeling like he shouldn't. Also just feelings of shame and him shutting himself out from everyone else) and if the symbiote would comfort him and stuff. I can imagine vee accidentally causing the Spider-Man to lash out because that seems like his defense mechanism. Idk I just wanted everyone here's opinion as I'm not too well versed on the character minus the movies and the 90s series

I also have no idea what bees origin here is but I think it would have something to do with the other symbiotes shunning it for some reason ( maybe something to do with how vee bonds with its hosts and everything)

Oh also apologies to the mods if this isn't tagged right, i didn't know what else to tag this.

I'm new to the world of symbiotes, I'm very interested in the universe and I really want to learn about it, and I'd like to know if there are any good Symbiotes, or if they were evil and were later redeemed. The only one I consider good, from what I saw, was Toxin. and Venom in his anti-hero arc, but the rest, I can't find information.

The tongue is spiky because I used the cut-out mouth for it

Has anyone else noticed Dr Dan Lewis is the secret guy who Rex Strickland secretly talks to. What’s that about?