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/r/TheRoamingDead is a subreddit dedicated to The Walking Dead comic series and its surrounding universe (Telltale's TWD, TWD: The Alien, Here's Negan, etc.)
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I just picked up the walking dead deluxe issue #1 and #2 from my local comic book store, I’m wondering if the story is exact same as the original incase I can’t find issue 3 of the deluxe will the original pick up in the same spot? Thanks in advance
this is charlie adlard and robert kirkman as zombies right?on the last volume.
Love this part lol. I always kinda thought that this was supposed to show Negan’s effect on Carl after always visiting him in jail.
I am just now reading the series and got the first eight volumes aka the first condominium so should I get the condominiums for the rest of it or stick with the volumes?
We’ve all been waiting for this one!
I personally bought the physical copies because I’m stubborn and would rather have a wall of DVDs and books rather than a Netflix subscription.
Issue 80.
The series already has a dark context in itself, but the tension increases when the community is surrounded by a horde and the survivors are forced to share houses again, in order to endure the winter.
In the middle of the night, Ron, a boy whose father died at Rick`s hand, bursts into Carl's room and accuses that Carl`s father killed his father.
By this point in the series, Carl had already killed an adult and a child.
He isn`t any scared of Ron breaking in, so his response is natural
"My father killed a lot of people. And so have I."
Perhaps Ron never expected that reply or indeed nver intended to be threatening, children must be understood by virtue of the immaculate innocence they have, and this is the only world they have to know.
Unlike Ron, Carl doesn`t k away from this reality, but rather looks at it squarely, while Ron asks why his father gets to be the bad guy as Carl's father is the good guy.
Stoically, Carl answers
""I don`t know. It`s just how things are."
As another child struggle with their lost, in the other hand Carl learned one big thing from growing up in this world, it's that a lot of shit happens and you have to deal with it, looking back, looking for answers or explanation about all of this pain, is something useless.
Keep in mind that not long ago, this world brutally and bluntly took Carl's mother away from him.
I just finished the third compendium and this page just doesn’t sit right with me. Right before Rick slits Megan’s throat he seems to be realizing his way was wrong but it feels so off for the character. Like he’s doing a complete 180 in the span of a few panels. Was he actually having a change of heart or was he just bullshitting?
If you can’t guess, look at Rick’s face
IM THE ONE SAVING YOUR WIFE AND SON!
Those panels and a single line hits hard as fuck.
Carl was brave enogh to realize "What after we leave this place? I don`t want it to made me weaker".
The only world he knows and that world killed his mother and baby sister, and is slowly killing everybody he knows, even forcing him -just a child- to kill some people here and there.
Despite every time Rick asks Carl to realize he`s only a boy and must be brave enough to enjoy this community fiting like any other child, in the end it brokes him too.
Not everyone would have the guts that Rick had to continue parenting Carl the way he did.
How does this dude sleep? Idk if I’m stupid as hell but his eye lids are basically non existent. Plus, if I were him I’d at least wear an eye patch over it to avoid infections, having your eyeball exposed like that could make it prone to some nasty stuff I’d imagine. Dwight is crazy!!
What if the beginning of here's negan and days go by was set in the same hospital? What if negan thought rick was dead and killed him in the hospital? What would of happened in negan met rick right at the beginning? Do you think they would of been friends? Instead of Dwight being negan's right hand man it was rick. Do you think Rick would even let negan marry Lori like Dwight did with sherry? Imagine how much stronger the saviors would be with rick? Do you even think the saviors would of happened with rick being in the group? Do you think there wouldof been an uprising within the group or do you think negan and rick would constantly fight each other, trying to take over as leader? Do you think Shane would of he lped negan? If rick did get killed by negan do you think Shane would if befriended the governor and lead a fight between them and the saviors?
"These are the guys that will be keeping your and your people safe from now on"
Does anyone know if the one shots will be getting colorized. Such as The Michonne, Tyreese, Morgan, Governor, Here’s Negan, and Negan lives stories
Abraham's adhesion at this point fits really well, the group needed muscle and Rick literally needed a right hand.
Abraham is the one who indicates that the 'hunters' are toying with hem, if weren't for his mentality, who knows how long the group would remain shooked inside the Church as the cannibals strategy would have continued on track.
The panel where we see the three heavy hitters is one of the most epics.
i imagine Kirkman saying "make them look powerful."
After seeing in Dale what those 'huntes' are capable , Rick doesn't hesitate and decides to go after them.
Although for the moment the idea is to "make them run." Neither Rick or Abraham are planning to kill the hunters, not even when they find out that they are eating people.
Mention aside, Dale severely mutilated and still not taking shit from Rick and assuming he's going to last a while longer even after being bitten, is something that demands a certain degree of respect.
On the next page, this panel occurs, and I don't think the lines they occupy are a coincidence.
"Rick, we're running out of food."
"Well, ration it, I have to find Gabriel."
While eating is a vital necessity, and we continually see the group searching for food, at the end of the day it is not the number one need when they are cornered by the unknown in this apocalyptic world. There are people out there hunting them, eating one of his friends... the last thing Rick thinks about is food at this point. "Fine, do it, you don't need my permission(...) Help me find Gabriel."
Hunting the hunters begging there.
Even Abraham, who is soldier, can`t belive Rick plan, but he is right about this, why to waste any time?
So, they figure out there are only three spots wich match with the intel they have on them.
On the other hand we have the cannibals.
Since its introduction, its leader, Chris, made it very clear: "At the end of the day, a man has to eat."
Although one of them saw how a small armed group left the rest of the group in the church, he is not intelligent enough to realize that they were going after them or they were not scared enough to remain locked up, instead of assuming That's why he thinks they "went to look for food."
This demonstrates this poeople obsession with eating.
It`s weird, but seems to me like if the cannibals developed an obssesion with the need of eat throug the apocalypse.
This obsession forced them into this cannibal stuff.
Chirs, their leader, acts cold.
He isn`t in favor of eating 'tainted meat' while some others indeed are eating.
Through the figure in Chris chracter, the story-telling puts into perspective how cynical those cannibals are when it comes to hunting their prey :
Wwe never donde a gruop this large before".
"Thin their numbers and make them fear for their lives"
So the fact of dismembering or shooting people, and even eating them isn`t big deal to Chris, he doesn`t show remorse for this actions, like indeed he just where hunting for eating.
Rather he seems calculating about how to hunt down the group.
What this guy never counted on is that Rick and company were listening.
At first, Cris appears confident in Rick's presence.
He even hints that he understands how he cares about the well-being of his people, "people you have grown to care about like a second family to replace the one you have lost."
In retrospect, Chris may rather be talking about him and the cannibals.
As soon as Rick understands that they aren't just going to let them go, curiosity hets over him.
Rick just asks how they came to this.
Chris's first response is the sophistry of "we were hungry, then he reveals that they first ate their own children, from this point, eating strangers were easy. Those lines shows how they still affectionate towards each other showing remorse for the fact of having eaten their children
The worst is, that shit is dark but makes a good point, if you eat yourn own childrne, tell your self you do it to survive, how easily you can deal with eating strangers?
As Rick hears it, he is shooked.
He realizes how much bear`s metaphor and the point about 'new family' are some of the shit that the cannibales are up to, he gets that´s the limit.
Now Rick get´s the cannibalss are a threat that needs to be eliminated.
The problem is how to deal with them, and not because Rick´s group isn´t up to face them, instead for the outcome.
The way the group kills the cannibals marks a turning point in the comic series.
By this point, everyone involved had killed a few people, even taking into account what this means, all of these deaths had been in extreme situation contexts.
But here the group has the possibility to think about how to deal with the cannibals with different solutions, they alreay were neutralized at this point, they could just disarm them and throw them into the walkers, instead, Rick makes everything very clear:
"Put him on the picnic table."
The group took enough time to mutilate and kill the cannibals, one by one while they watched and waited their turn. They let out all the hatred they growned and holded back, obviously they did all these actions standing on a higher moral ground, because if we think about it, killing is terrifying per-se, but mutilating the enemy and eating them alive is even worse.
What Rick and the rest of the group do is the projection of an ideal-self.
"We killed them, but we did it to survive.
They mutilated and eat people alive.
We woth are bad people, but they are worst"
With this, they justify their ctions although those sticks around.
As they finish burning the corpses and leaving the place, the morality of the act is questioned.
Rick is the firt to admit they gone to far doing the cannibals in this way.
As soon as Gabriel, who watched everything without taking part, questions them for their actions, Rick once again stands on a moral high ground, leveling with him by hinting that Gabriel let a lot of people die while looking out for his own well-being.
He killed this people in some way, so those actions make him nobody to judge their actions.
Upon returning to the Church, Rick doesn't even tell the others how they dealt with the cannibals, all he says is "it's over." Rick sees his humanity reflected in Carl's innocent face, whom he clings to.
Rick has mutilated and killed all these men, but he has done it because they were a threat to his son, not because the dark shit they were into, in or anything like that.
Rick is not a police-man anymore at this point, he is just a survivor, and a father.
Still, the morality of the act haunts Rick, these actions stick around, he knows it was justified but he knows what he has done.
Following Dale´s burial, Rick breakdsdown and tells Abraham his get on things.
Rick tells how Dale and him made it together as group over the moints, for a long time he thinked that Dale mentalit, doesn´t getting changed by the outbreak and trying to hold on his humanity, made him weak, while in fact that was what make Dale stronger.
Rick struggles with what he did to survive, some or this actions still justified, but they way the killing the hunters...
After taking they weapons they were almost neutralized, but still they mutilated and killed them in a terrible way.
Also, Rick fears if Carl knew the kind of things heydid to those people he will fear him.
But in fact, Carl just looks inside this world, it´s the only reality he knows, and he gets his father kill people who is a treat for they survival.
Carl's moral constitution is very different from Rick's. He does not hold back the same notions of justice and society as his father, it is the only reality in which he has to live, the only world in which he has seen and created culture. His father's confession doesn't hurt Carl that much, instead he responds that he killed Ben.
By the end... what more can be said about this arc?
Although up to this point TWD had introduced quite a few villains or disgusting beings, none that imitated the customs of the monsters that brought down society.
Eating the living is something terrible, until now something that at most the walkers did.
Seeing humans imitate that custom is a turning point for our characters, but also detrimental to their get on things, the point is that... fighting in the name of humanity always requires dehumanizing the enemy.
Issue #64, Hunters arc
Rick realizes that they are being watched, he gives the order that at his signal they take Dale to the church.
The situation is pure tension, Rick doesn't even want his colleagues to have any idea what he's going to do.
It´s funny how in the next panel, Abraham suddenly has his shirt on.
As if in the middle of the tension he just said "Ok Rick but wait, I´ll put my shirt on first".
Rereading the deluxe edition, I'm worried about how this makes the comic not age well.
I wonder how the team editing it just didn't even bother to fix these small details, they obviously realized it while coloring it and just "Another error, don´t fix it."
Will there be any technicality reason behind the 'deluxe edition' never repairing those small but in the end, errors in the whole run?