It's this ridiculous "75% of arrests in midtown Manhattan were migrants" talking point that came from a NY Post article citing an unnamed "police source". I remember TMR debunking it, but it would be searching for a needle in a haystack to try to find that. Any help?

All quotes from Democratic candidates emerge for 2028 presidential race

Kamala Harris

Democrats have not been putting the blame on Harris for their defeat, at least for the most part. [...]

That's not happening. She lost.

So far, there haven't been good options running for Governor of California. I was hoping US Representative Ro Khanna ran, because he's delusional if he thinks he has a shot at being POTUS in 2029.

VPOTUS Kamala Harris needs to move to the Left again, but she may be a decent choice for Gov. of California unless a better option runs.

Gavin Newsom

Long before Biden dropped out of the race, California’s governor was positioning himself as a potential nominee in case the president decided not to run for reelection.

In many ways, he became the bulwark for Democrats against Trump. [...]

California Governor Gavin Newsom isn't even popular in California.

Gretchen Whitmer

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has long been seen as a strong potential presidential candidate.

There are some Democrats who wish there had been a more open contest for the nomination this cycle, and who think Whitmer might have been a stronger general election candidate. [...]

AOC is simply a better option. And AOC would probably get the UAW endorsement over Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

Josh Shapiro

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro emerged from the Democrats’ loss of the White House in a stronger position, even with Harris losing his state. [...]

Running to the Right didn't work in 2024 and it's not going to work in 2028. And it likely FPOTUS Barack Obama won't still have the influence to get other Democrats to fall in line to support the most conservative and corporate candidate in the race.

Pete Buttigieg

Since he ran for president in 2020, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg has been someone Democrats have said could be the future of the party. [...]

'Mayor Pete' has been a bad US Transportation Secretary. And he clearly didn't convince many Fox News viewers to vote for VPOTUS Kamala Harris. He was also barely a contender in the 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary.

JB Pritzker

After Biden’s disastrous debate performance in June, Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker was one of the Democrats many thought might mount a bid for the nomination in an open primary at the convention, which was hosted in Chicago, right in the Illinois governor’s home state.

An heir to the Hyatt Hotel chain, Pritzker could easily build his campaign coffers — and quickly.

He also has a string of legislative achievements that could be appealing to Democrats.

He signed legislation that would raise the minimum wage to $15 in the state. He also signed several reproductive rights bills.

Together with Gov. Jared Polis of Colorado, he helped form a coalition of Democratic governors called Governors Safeguarding Democracy.

Democrats have also applauded the way he went after Trump the day after he was elected earlier this month.

“To anyone who intends to come, take away the freedom and opportunity and dignity of Illinoisans, I would remind you that a happy warrior is still a warrior,” he said. “You come for my people, you come through me.”

A Presidential campaign doesn't need to be self-funded.

Illinois Governor JB Pritzker is a better option than California Governor Gavin Newsom; but unless Gov. Pritzker can be an FDR or something like that, I'm not sure the standard-bearer for the Democratic Party should be an heir to a business fortune.

Gov. Pritzker seems more progressive than Gov. Whitmer, but he'd also be a compromise compared to AOC.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

When Democrats talk about the future of the party, the 35-year-old New York congresswoman’s name always bubbles to the top.

Democrats have long been impressed with Ocasio-Cortez’s ability to “cut through the BS and tell it like it is,” the second Democratic strategist said.

“She’s somebody who can cut through the noise and doesn’t talk like Washington.”

Democrats say Ocasio-Cortez would be a magnet for young voters and would have little trouble using social media, podcasts and other online tools, as she has been doing since she was elected to Congress in 2018.

While Ocasio-Cortez was once aligned with progressives including Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), she has since backed more centrist candidates.

Still, some Democrats say she still represents a more leftist wing of the party to some voters, something that could hurt her if she pursues higher office.

“She and the ‘squad’ started pushing too hard, too fast,” the first strategist said. “D.C. doesn’t work that way. And our party doesn’t work that way. We need to get back to the basics.”

Some POTUS-elect Donald Trump voters voted for her. It seems she expanded her voter base since 2020.

And the ENTHUSIAM for a candidate matters.

https://today.yougov.com/ratings/politics/popularity/Democrats/all

https://today.yougov.com/ratings/politics/popularity/politicians/all

AOC hasn't run for POTUS yet. Her 'Fame' i.e. 'name recognition' is still relatively low. But she clearly has far more enthusiastic support than any of the other potential 2028 Democratic Presidential Nominees.

She'll need small-dollar donors and endorsements from popular progressives (and liberals?).

But AOC should be the frontrunner for 2028.

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There have been Red State women Governors.

Hillary Clinton was a bad choice because John Kerry within a few months proved a far better US Secretary of State.

And in 2016, the US Senator Bernie Sanders campaign took off and then it was clear that the DNC and the Mainstream Media were heavily tilting things against him.

And then she had perhaps the worst General Election campaign in the last 40 years.

VPOTUS Kamala Harris was winning at the beginning and was continuing to win until after the DNC. RFK Jr. endorsing FPOTUS Donald Trump and then the Harris campaign’s rightward shift during the DNC and after dropped enthusiasm for the Harris campaign.

And the Veep debate made JD Vance relatively palatable.

An AOC campaign would remain progressive, and she can far more rely on free media, social media, YouTube, Twitch, etc.

Hey y'all. hope you had a good Thanksgiving day. i wanted to talk about my political discussions i had at the table, and maybe have a place here for others to share stories, vent, get advice on how to talk to centrist family members.

for context i supported Bernie in 2016 and 2020 and consider myself a socialist. my brother is a die hard democrat centrist. seems to get most of his takes directly from leadership. the ideal voter leadership wants.

he brings up politics at the table to have a post mortem of what happened, and it started to devolve into him being resentful for "acting like i know everything" and tried to twist my definition of neoliberalism (preferring market solutions and privatization with austerity measures) by saying "ah so you must think FDR is a neoliberal because he did those!" citing a time he rolled back his new deal policies. when i said "no, he's not a neoliberal. obviously." he seemingly he got mad that political labels don't work the way he wanted, and was frustrated people used "neoliberal" as a pejorative and thinking i just use it as a blanket term as anyone i don't like.

overall the discussion kept getting derailed because he just kept pivoting back to attacking me over political label definitions, resenting i'm correct who's analysis i follow, but at the same time realizing how bad the Dems were while also still trying to defend them when i call them incompetent.

I'm curious y'all who had talks with centrists family members how it went. were they also mad? mad at you or progressives in general? were they open to criticizing Dems? where they hostile to everything you said or put forward?

in the end i just started asking who he got his news from, and i was expecting some NPR podcast or PSA. generally he doesn't listen to anyone and just gets stuff through cultural osmosis, and generally knows more than most americans given his income class and does have NPR on often.

so i just offered people like Ryan Grim and drop site news, this show and others, and the recent PSA episodes to show contrast between kamala's team and Hasan Piker. up front i tell him "they are all leftists, but it seems you need more variety in your news diet to get more sides to the story." since he did agree everyone has a bias, you just need to know them going in to fully disect their views.

i'm hoping if he listens to the show he can hear more people this show interviews that cover tropics just never talked about in MSM and those with similar views.

Thanksgiving with my brother, the topic of the election came up and everything was fairly light. He did mention the issues at the border and ‘illegals’ getting everything for free. I couldn’t resist my favorite retort to this.

Do you really think ‘illegals’ are getting more benefits than legal Americans? If that was true, why wouldn’t legal Americans just claim to be illegal to get the benefits?

He paused for a second, then responded, some people probably do that. lol, beautiful.

So you heard it here first, there’s a percentage of undocumented immigrants that are actually legal US citizens just pretending to be here illegally in order to get free stuff.