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Was anybody else really disappointed at the miracle day "series"?

I miss the old series', I miss Ianto and Tosh and Owen and episodes like countryside, I miss it being a badass version of Doctor Who :( or is this me just complaining too much?

72 Comments
2011/10/19
11:18 UTC

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Is anyone or has anyone met someone named Ablemarch, Costerdane or Frines?

Just curious if they are actual names because they definitely sound like it.

16 Comments
2011/10/16
18:46 UTC

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Why is Torchwood so incompetent?

I love Doctor Who, Sarah Jane..and I really WANT to love Torchwood.. But it seems they just can't get their act together. I get the need for dramatic tension. I get a limited budget. But what is it that they just seem to infight over petty issues in the middle of major crises and seem to only pull out a final save by the skin of their teeth and at the loss of half the team?

Let's go back to Torchwood 1. Yvonne got too arrogant and ended up bringing the Cybermen and Daleks into our world to wreak havoc. But until then, TW was pretty amazing. They had London rigged up with a cool green ray weapon defense system. They had their own army with cool black and white camouflage. They had a warehouse of Alien artifacts and actively studied and used what they had confiscated.

They fold and Jack becomes the de-facto leader of TW. So he completely shuts it all down, except for a handful of people in Cardiff and Archie in TW 2. Why? Why get rid of all those resources? Why stop using Alien tech? Why stop studying?

In the first series, right from the get-go, they have to deal with a rogue team member (Suzie) and then again with Ianto. Throughout the series, the team argues so much that it comes to one of them being shot over the utterly stupid plan of shutting down the rift. They have a pseudo-mutiny and in the end, Jack just kind of forgives Owen but he really didn't resolve anything or assert himself as their leader. Then he promptly bailed on them.

He comes back in series 2, nearly kills Martha, kills Owen and Tosh, ruins Gwen's wedding over what should be a simple monster to catch and the team generally gets their ass handed to them repeatedly by Gray, who was one of the weakest, most non-motivated villains they have ever had.

We get to Children of Earth. Still, pound for pound, one of the best 5 hours of television drama I have ever seen. But let's face it, TW does not look very good here either. Ianto gets the SUV stolen. The Hub is exploded. Jack is exploded. When they finally get their game on, Jack and Ianto have the brilliant plan to storm into the 456 containment area and demand them to stop. And promptly die for it. For no reason. I really thought he had some super-clever plan up his sleeve, but no, he was just trying to assert himself. He could have done that from a microphone and speakers. They finally win, but at the cost of his grandson, his soul and Ianto's life. The whole time, they never used any alien tech to fight the 456, only the contact lenses. They lived rough, stealing equipment and such, We then find out in Miracle Day that Jack has been making investments since the Great Depression. Why didn't he use any of those resources? TW acts on the authority of Queen Victoria. So why didn't they ever contact Queen Elizabeth and ask for favors? Oh, and they acknowledge that Archie/TW2 is dead.

We get to Miracle Day. It starts off good, but TW basically goes into hiding and doesn't do a heckuva lot for a long, long time. Jack has money and stores of alien artifacts from TW 1 and 3, but he never uses them. Why smuggle your way into China on a long flight, rather than just zipping there from your alien ship? Or teleporting. Why get shot when you have an alien device that makes force fields? The new team doesn't fight aliens, infights when totally inappropriate and both Rex and Vera claim to be with TW, but say they aren't 5 minutes later. When it comes to the final showdown in China, TW had NO plan. They just barreled through and hoped they would think of something. If not for Esther, they would not have pulled a victory out by the skin of their teeth. And then they ended up getting her and Vera killed too. And Jack came close. And Gwen's dad did. And all the CIA people. And Oswald.

We won't even go into why things like Angello, his daughter, the Null Plate, PhiCorp and their CEO were even included in the story as they never amounted to anything useful for the plot.

So what IS it? Jack is a smart, competent guy. Why does he fail at every turn? When will we get a competent, smart, organized Torchwood. One that fights alien incursions, uses alien tech and actually plans out their battles and kicks some ass? Let's see them take on an alien infiltration, like the Silence. Let's see them turn the tables on the government. Let's see them finally honor the Doctor, as Jack intended.

The old intro said - "The twenty-first century is when everything changes and Torchwood is ready." Obviously not. I just want to see THAT Torchwood. The one that is actually ready for the 21st Century.

34 Comments
2011/10/14
09:42 UTC

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Torchwood: Greeks Bearing Gifts (and Gods Bearing Curses)

0 Comments
2011/10/13
20:17 UTC

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Season 1- Episode 11- Combat

So they keep saying that something is coming in the darkness, I don't really care about spoilers but in less than a week I've seen 11 episodes of Tourchwood and I gotta know is this thing in the darkness worth it? Or is it just a big build up to nada?

11 Comments
2011/10/13
01:36 UTC

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Ideas for an Owen outfit?

I want to do a cosplay of Owen for a hallowe'en party I'm going to, but need some advice on how to pull Owen off. I've got myself a labcoat, so I was going to go as "Medic Owen", any ideas?

9 Comments
2011/10/12
15:47 UTC

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Does Gwen drive anyone else absolutely crazy?

Seriously. I just want to shake that woman most of the time. I desperately miss Ianto, Owen, and even Tosh to a certain extent. Rhys makes me a little nuts at times too.

8 Comments
2011/10/12
06:54 UTC

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Need help finding passable coats to use as Jack's Great Coat

As title states, I'm trying to find coats/great coats that could be passed off as Jack's great coat (which is an RAF great coat). I'm not having the best luck looking on the web. I can't seem to find any good ones so far, and I would really appreciate some suggestions

14 Comments
2011/10/12
02:50 UTC

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Huh. I guess that explains the miracle. (Regarding the nanogens from The Doctor Dances)

0 Comments
2011/10/08
02:17 UTC

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Just watched Countrycide...

Aside from not being able to sleep or eat for a little while, I'm really excited to watch this show. What sort of things can I expect from it? More violence and sexy times? Or does that get toned down later in the series?
Edit: Thanks for all the great input everyone! I really appreciate your opinions :)

13 Comments
2011/10/07
11:45 UTC

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OK... finally watched the first episode of Torchwood and...

I'm a bit scared to continue. Apparently everyone in Torchwood dies, and then more people die, and then there is more death? I mean I love the first episode, but am I going to be constantly heart broken by getting attached to characters who die?

8 Comments
2011/10/07
03:08 UTC

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What you get when you cross Torchwood with Futurama

8 Comments
2011/10/06
23:41 UTC

60

If River met sassy gay Jack xpost from /r/doctorwho

10 Comments
2011/10/05
12:02 UTC

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From Out of the Rain

I just re-watched it today and aside from CoE, this is probably my single favorite episode. I just really like the premise and something about the idea of the Night Travelers is very creepy to me.

That's all...

2 Comments
2011/09/29
04:49 UTC

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Miracle Day: Fan Edit?

So I think the majority of us can agree, Miracle Day was…okay. My primary issue with it was how drawn out it felt, which got me thinking…how about a fan edit of miracle day, cutting it down to roughly half its original length (as it was supposed to be). Does anyone know if such a thing exists (or is likely to be created), and if not, why the hell not?!

If it were me, probably the only episode i'd keep intact would be Immortal Sins. The only episode that felt like "true" torchwood as far as i'm concerned. What do you guys think? What would you keep/strip out?

17 Comments
2011/09/28
21:13 UTC

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Just finished watching Children of Earth for the first time.

I have never been more depressed and impressed by a show while simultaneously losing faith in humanity. I am just blown away and feel somewhat empty. I am so glad I was recommended this by /r/DoctorWho and /r/TheHub.

35 Comments
2011/09/28
16:37 UTC

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A theory (Spoilers :P)

Or more of a point rather. The Face of Boe calls The Doctor "old friend" so either Rex meets The Doctor, or it he isn't Rex :D

3 Comments
2011/09/26
19:55 UTC

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Something that sort of bothers me regarding the plot of the new season (SPOILERS)

Jack said over and over that his blood wasn't special. He even said he had the doctor analyze it to make sure (or figure out why he was immortal). Does anybody have any theories as to why it turns out his blood IS special? Maybe the doctor was just lying to him? Maybe through his blood he became a part of the TARDIS? I though that all that happened was he became a fixed point in time (which again didn't really make sense with the death of Boe).

35 Comments
2011/09/26
13:25 UTC

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Any one here watch sanctuary, thoughts? it seems smiler to TW from what I've seen of it

3 Comments
2011/09/26
10:37 UTC

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