So I’ve been reading the expanse series, I love it. I use chat gpt semi regularly to help with work tasks and I use the “read aloud” function to listen to the content as I work on other things.

I noticed some strange anomalies in the voices reading, like random shouts or mixed voices blending indistinguishably in the pauses between paragraphs or headers. So that prompted me to do some research into how open ai sourced its voice features. Turns out they more or less mine tons of audio data from cellular & communication companies and feed their artificial intelligence terabytes of human audio data to get the averaged out cadences, flow, punctuation etc. to sound and feel right

It IMMEDIATELY made me think of the Eros incident with the protomolecule. Millions of voices all locked away together blending into something else completely different, unaware, & reaching out…

I’m kind of tripping balls here, like the sounds that chat gpt is making in between the content being read aloud SOUNDS like blended voices shouting and reaching out in shock or mild fear.

Anyways. That’s my thoughts on ai and the protomolecule

Same.

Just had a quick question, I’ve just finished Cibola Burn, and have moved onto Nemesis Games. I immediately noticed that the printing is more faint than that found on the previous 4 books. Is this just how the printing is, or is it a quality control error that slipped through the cracks?

Cheers, Hedge1915

I'm in the middle of Nemesis. Without major soilers... Can someone tell me if any of the recurring characters end up joining the crew?

I would love that, but I don't know if I should keep waiting it. I want a bigger crew, and one with some of the secondary characters, like the martian marine.

I've been loving the series so far, but Babylon's Ashes is a real drag. I'm about 200 pages in and I feel like nothing has happened besides Pa betrating Marco and Marco not being happy with it. Other books had me grabbed by this point, with a mystery in place, but here it feels like there's 0 plot so far. Does it get better? Or do I just have to trudge through this book to get to the next ones? I'm also not a fan of the amount of differing POVs so far, 4 felt like a perfect amount but here it keeps changing and changing.

Just started the series. This guy is fucked up, yall. He’s got this creepy overtly sexual obsession with this much younger woman who he’s only seen in pictures and he believes has been raped in the past. He’s having visions and shit where they’re together and he’s not even the classic “fucked up but brilliant detective” archetype, he’s just fucked up and sort of stupid too. I hope he dies fr

Love me some Holden tho the guy is just trying his best

I've listened to the book multiple times, and recall the slingshotter receiving the video from the girl he like, and she was sleeping with is brother, or something like that. Someone else, regardless.

Now I'm listening to it from a different source and her video is just a benign message.

I remember details about the other scene, so I'm certain that I am not confabulating it.

Is there anything newer than "The Sins of our Fathers"?

So here’s my question I am on book 5 of the series and I’m wondering if some seems in book 5 are a foreshadowing of what’s to come? Miller kept talking about this empty spot on ilus and there seems to be a dead spot in the asteroid belt in book 5. In my opinion, Proto molecule isn’t the enemy.

I loved this series. I want to reread it. But between school and work, I have no time to reread it. So I got the audiobook!

I hate Jefferson Mays’ voice. I’m very sorry to the man, but come on, a stealth ship fires torpedoes at the Cant, and no one sounds even remotely bothered by it. “Fast movers. Six of them.” They’ve all got the demeanor of trained military professionals ready to deal with it instead of civvies who should be shitting bricks right about now.

…so, back to the original question: are there other audiobooks? I’m only finding Mays on audible.

I feel like this book is mirroring our current societal issues with cultures fighting each other instead of embrace each other. And if we continue down this path we'll we taken out by something we don't understand just like what happened to Marco Inaros Pella crew in the ring gate.

For me Abbadons Gate was a hard read because it drags on and I never enjoyed Anna's character. This one is hard to read because it's no longer a reality escape when it hits so close to home.

Just finished Leviathan Falls. Have that feeling like I'm coming down from the mountain after getting to the end of the 9 books. I'm sure some folks will say just go back and reread Leviathan Wakes to maintain or recapture the feeling or whatever, but I think I just need time to process stuff like where my space friends have all ended up. I thought the climax at the end was the right kind of culmination of several pieces in the whole story. The choices certain characters made at he end seemed like the logical choices to make. Been a hell of a ride through it all. And the epilogue...Deep breath. Whoa.

On Amazon DE, there is an entry for Cibola Burn, hardcover, ~45€. Will be published 25th February 2025.

So I guess that will be the CE. https://amzn.eu/d/3TvEwuF

Nemesis Games, release 11th March 2025: https://amzn.eu/d/44MkUOY

Babylon‘s Ashes, release 22th April 2025: https://amzn.eu/d/bo9oJs0

I'm about a quarter way through and Bull's chapters have been completely miserable for me. I do not like this character at all. Can the book be read skipping his stuff or am I better off just stopping the series? Not trying to attack anyone who does like him, but it is not for me despite enjoying the rest of the series so far

https://youtu.be/eLBUqq6Ty-g?si=DDAFyFtMJ6buaXfm

Maybe the has been answered before, amd if so I apologize. Also, SPOILER ALERT!

I feel like I've missed something. Im on my third read through. Absolutely love this series.

In book three Holden goes to the station. While there, the marines show up and shoot at him and the slow zone slows the bullets. They shoot the machine with the grenade, and the slow zone slows the zone further.

In order to shut the slow zone response off, they have to kill all sources of power, and they fight Ashford for control of the ship. Amd they do this by shooting at each other.

How are they shooting at each other if the zone is slowed down? Is it ever explained and I missed the explanation?

I’ve read (audiobook) them all and I am On my 2nd time through the series. Discovering fascinating foreshadowing from the first books that really do bring me smiles. I had my first “who is that” moment last night.

Book 4 Cibola Burn. First Interlude. (I really enjoy the interludes btw).

The Investigator mentions a “Maria” who has begged to die.

Any idea who this is?

Thanks.

I just finished my first listen through the second book. I jumped to the 3rd only a few minutes later. But they were talking about a ring and how it was created.

I remember Miller showing up, but I don’t remember the ring past Neptune, did that happen during the “break” and not in a book? Did I miss a massive plot point in the second book?

Mine has to be the Io Campaign [Caliban's War]. I >!just love the complexity of a rogue UN Fleet vs the UN and MCRN, and how the battle was marked by chaos and confusion. Orders coming from one admiral, the other admiral saying "disregard that; obey me instead" leading to fighting on the ships themselves. And it all coming to a head with the release of the Hybrids slaughtering everyone on the Agatha King.!<

Second is the massive final campaign against the Free Navy in Babylon's Ashes. Seeing everybody come together and fight the good fight along several theatres was so cathartic and cool to see. Especially Michio Pa's role and her conclusion just chilling out at a resort.

Finally, I can't pick between the [Tiamat's Wrath, Persepolis Rising]>!Siege of Laconia and the battle of Point Leuctra. The former is just cool af but the latter was barely a battle--it was a 30 vs 1 massacre and I love how it ended with something rare in space operas: a surrender.!<

James S A Corey spends the whole series describing how belters shrug with their arms, not their shoulders. Sometimes it's even a bit grating from the repetitiveness.

[Minor spoiler below]

But then... in the last book, Leviathan Falls, right at the end he slips up.

Chapter 49.

"His flat, black eyes shifted to Naomi, and he gestured: 'What do I do with this?' Naomi raised her shoulders: 'I don't know!'

😂 ha! Gotcha!

After I DEVOURED books 1 & 2, I took a break to read two books in another series. Now that I've done that - I'm back to the expanse. Starting book 3 today.

But I was struck by a stray thought I had back when I read book 2.

Basically, when the Rocinante Crew are joined by Bobby & Avasarala, and then some other Martian Ships join in the fun - the Martians just GIVE the Roci crew a whole bunch of ammunition, fuel, and whatever else one of those Fighter Ships need to operate well.

My question is, why the generosity?

Re-reading the books after "mercy of God's" released and I came across something I just can't parse out myself.

In chapter twenty of "leviathan wakes", Miller is going through flight logs, looking for the Rocinate, and come across one freigh hauller named the "badass motherfucker".

The BM in question is owned by the MYOFB corporation out of luna and I just can't figure out what it stands for.

Fast movers incoming. Any assistance would be appreciated.

NOT A COMPLAINT! Want to preface that! lol. I am just curious if anyone knows why the lack of AI or robots in this series? Seems any outward expansion of humanity would be part and parcel with the development and use of AI and Robotics.