(In Spencer) I honestly thought she embodied her so well and with her hair done Diana style I thought she actually looked very similar in the face

The crown edition

Hey guys,

I'm trying to put my hands on one of the end credits song from season 5, episode: Gunpowder. It ends with a rendition of Dear Lord Father of Mankind. Beautiful rendition which I simply cannot find anywhere: they're all different. If someone is more successful than I am, I'd be grateful!

Also I was just wondering if they ever released the revisited version of Your Majesty they play a few times during season 6? It's gorgeous yet I can't find any trace of it anywhere...

Thanks in advance!

Both look like a old man in the middle of a fart.

I am wondering why everyone loves The Crown so much? Is it the acting? The writing? The cast? The interest in the Windsors?

I truly love period dramas, and often everything British. That said, I cannot get into the Crown. I think it might be because I live in the era of the Windsors. So I have lived through much of their scandals. I have seen the entire series, it was a tough slog for me. I truly did enjoy seeing more of Princess Margaret and the children of Elizabeth II. I really had no idea how much greatness Prince Charles really did for his Country. I was looking forward to Princess Diana’s story, but I felt uninspired.

I wonder if my period dramas and historical documentaries are specifically to eras I have not lived through. I would truly love to know what you loved about the crown, and how it personally impacted your views of the Windsors, monarchy and politics today.

Dawg I feel bad for the woman that asked William for an auto graph and bro just got angry real quick, it’s the episode where William meets his future wife.. (even tho it’s just a show)

During her first audience with Margaret Thatcher, the Queen asks her about who she has picked for her first cabinet and adds "I'm assuming no women". Thatcher then confirms this assumption and rambles about women being too emotional for high office. The Queen is visibly taken aback at her stance, yet she was the one assuming that there would be no women in Thatcher's cabinet. Am I missing something?

I'm curious to know what others think of the show so I found this on Reddit and joined. I love how they take the piss out of the royal family. I'm currenty watching Eugenie and Beatrice talk about the sovereign grants and Eugenie says (about Princess Margarets children) "....not even characters on The Crown.."

One of my favourites is Pippa. I do like Katherine, and Fergie. Ok I think I like them all. 😆

Great show.

I’m pretty sure Queen Mary has a whiskey in every one of her scenes…

There were lots of news articles around the filming of season 6 in relation to filming Princess Diana’s death and also when HM The Queen died in 2022. It seemed the direction of the show may have changed what was originally intended.

There was articles about the depiction of the car crash, how it would include hospital scenes, Diana in the coffin during Charles visit to her. Peter Morgan later said Elizabeth Debecki as Diana in the coffin was for Dominic West’s performance only (not intended for audience to see her). There was also set photos of a replica of the crushed car. Similar to the one removed from the tunnel.

It seems a lot of effort to go to for stuff not to be shown. I imagine it the reaction was what changed the direction of certain scenes?

I wondered if anyone had any behind the scenes tea!

WTF (sorry, I have no words)

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I think The Crown gives Diana a bit too much credit in her wanting to tear down the Crown during and after her marriage to Charles. She was a product of her time and if it wasn't for her, there would be another in her place. Someone would come along with an all too modern approach to things that would be fundamentally at odds with the monarchy, and it would create sparks. The fact that she was young, Charles was older, Camilla was in the wings, all just added fuel to the fire.

There was always going to be a Diana, and the Monarchy are victims of their own making.

Hi guys, I recall vaguely a scene where a 'commoner' is at Royal dinner and does not know what to do - etiquette wise. Like serving themselves from a plate while he should let the waiter do it. Bit random maybe, but maybe you guys can help me out!

And is it just me? because now im rooting against the crown family lmao. They're all unbearably snobbish which i suppose they always have been but it feels like its been ramped up to an 11 and now everything behaves like Margaret

Just finished watching episode two and im team Thatcher haha, i find her more interesting

From the show we know that Margaret had her feelings for Peter well before her father passed. However, I think she purposely waited to bring up the idea of marrying Peter until Elizabeth was Queen.

Elizabeth personally had no serious issue with it, and even tried to make it happen as the Sovereign. She wound up being stonewalled by the government and Church.

I think George VI would've shut it down as soon as he heard the idea, and Margaret knew this. Asides from being a self-admitted stickler for the rules, that's his daughter marrying his equerry, a man well above her age, and "scandalously beneath her class".

If he'd tried to make it work, he'd have hit the same barriers Elizabeth did. Do you think he'd have even tried though? I think not.

Someone made a lovely post about particular moments in the series that tugs at their heartstrings.

And it made me think of moments that leave me apoplectic with rage. Like season 4 or 5 (I think) when Charles and Diana are going to spend time together at Highgrove and we see Charles's housekeeping staff getting everything ready for Diana's visit:

Removing Camilla's pictures from different places around the home. Including an intimate one on Charles's nightstand.

Removing Camilla's used lingerie from Charles's bedroom. (Some of it is crumpled on the bed or floor, hence used.)

Changing the sheets where Charles and Camilla have just had sex.

I just...I'm seething during that scene.

Any of you feel the same about other moments in the series?

I'm absolutely enamored with the piece of score present in "The Anointing", "Limerick" and "Dressing Down" parts of the soundtrack, so I was wandering if it ever returns after season 1? I heard a subtle hint of it near the end of "I Have No Choice" from season 2, but that's about it (unless I missed some other place in the season 2 soundtrack where it appears).

I know the composers changed after season 2, but perhaps the theme would be reprised in some subsequent season regardless, so I'm just asking whether any of you know if this piece of music appears anywhere else in The Crown?

I've been rewatching The Crown and reached episode 8 of Season 6, particulary the scene where Princess Margaret and Princess Elisabeth get to the Ritz to celebrate VE Day.

Is it Lionel Logue (aka Geoffrey Rush) we see toasting with other attendees right after the Princesses enter the ballroom? King George VI's speech therapist in the movie ?

In S04E05 Fagan, at 45:10, Thatcher (Gillian Anderson) pronounces the word medicine as: MEDA-SIN.

The Queen replies a moment later and pronounces the word as: MED-SIN.

In North America we say MEDA-SIN. I assumed that MED-SIN was a Britishism. So, I'm confused by the way Gillian Anderson chose to pronounce it. I can assume that is the way that Thatcher and many other Brits pronounce it.

Is there is a regional or class difference in the pronounciation of the word medicine in the UK?

I just watched Aberfan. At the end, the Queen speaks to the PM of knowing something is wrong with her, or perhaps deficient. She feels emotionless. She doesn’t cry. At upsetting points in her life, she hasn’t cried. Is this a choice made for the writing of the show? Was the real Queen that way? What made her that way?

Not sure if this is the right sub for it but I am a huge fan of The Crown and had a random question. If an unmarried man ascends to the throne and becomes King, has a coronation, and later on gets married, would his wedding and coronation of his new queen consort happen on the same day? Or are they two different ceremonies? Would the new queen consort even get her own coronation, or does a queen consort only get a coronation if it’s in tandem with the king’s coronation?

This has always sort of bothered me. At least the first three private secretaries are big characters in the show. Tommy Lascelles, Michael Adeane and Martin Charteris.

Tommy Lascelles was a huge part of the first two seasons. If I remember right the last scene we see him in is the montage of everyone getting ready for Margaret and Tony's wedding and then just... gone.

Michael Adeane is last mentioned in the episode where Elizabeth visits David in Paris. They mention him having retired three months ago and that's that.

And Martin Charteris just sort of... disappears?

These weren't characters that were big enough to warrant their own episodes, but were major parts of a lot of plots. There should've been at least some sort of goodbye scene, funeral, etc.

And that's what I think of that.

The 1997 hit "Tubthumping" by the anarcho-punk band Chumbawamba was prominently featured in Season 6 of the Crown. In a scene, Princess Diana was driving while "Tubthumping" was playing in the car. "Tubthumping" was released on Aug. 11, 1997. So in theory, Princess Diana could have heard this song. The B-side of "Tubthumping" was the excellent/brilliant "Farewell to the Crown." The song was highly critical of the UK's royal family. One of the lyrics in "Farewell to the Crown" was "Goodbye to the media whore (Diana), and all her pious work for the poor, goodbye to the crown!" Only a few weeks later, Diana was dead. And one of the biggest hit songs in the UK had a B-side that was highly critical of Diana. Kind of awkward timing. Anyway, I'm a bit surprised that Chumbawamba would have allowed their song to be featured on The Crown, considering how they were strongly anti-Royalist.

For what it's worth, I love "The Crown" while simultaneously despising and opposing all monarchies.

Farewell to the Crown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edYltrmBhKw

tomorrow im starting a post flood about the episodes about each character. hope youll enjoy them!

Does anyone else cry during ep1 and ep 2 season 1 The Crown? I am rewatching series for the 3rd time... In ep 1 when King George puts on the paper crown and sings the carol In the Bleak Midwinter i become a puddle....

And in ep 2 when he sings Betwixt Bothered and Bewildered with Margaret.... 💧💧💧💧

It is such a masterful series!