Alright, so. I started watching the series in 2022, maybe right after the Queen's death. I loved every second of it: the acting was so good from the start, and the pace was perfect. I watched Seasons 1 to 5 with no problems, and I don't remember dropping the show even briefly. Not long after Season 6 came out, I also started watching it. However, when it was time to watch the 4th episode, "Aftermath" (the episode in which Diana dies), I couldn't bring myself to do it, since I was experiencing a family loss.

So, between December 2023 and February 2024, I had dropped the show. Then, sometime around September 2024, I decided to pick it up again, and I watched episodes 4 to 7 (the one where William goes to University). I just found it so hard to sit through the episodes, and I was so bored that I put the series down again.

Finally, the other day I brought myself to finish the series. The last three episodes brought back all the love I always felt for the series, and I especially liked the relationship between the Queen and Margaret getting an episode all for itself, before the latter's death. So now I sit here wondering: was the William and Harry arc boring, or were I just not in the mood to watch the series?

Also, were Tony Blair's scenes with the Queen more boring than those with Thatcher and Churchill? And why were Philip and Elizabeth's talks reduced in ths season (except, of course, for the very final episode). Tell me what do you think.

To clarify, the post isn't about scenes from history which didn't appear in the show. The attempted kidnapping of Anne would be a perfect example of that. Elizabeth kneeling to Diana's coffin

This post is for scenes or events that occurred in the show's context, but weren't depicted on screen. An example would be the night of drinking that Philip describes in S2E6 Vergangenheit and then again in S3E2 Margaretology.

The idea of Philip getting drunk with Tommy Lascelles and the Queen Mother, especially in season 2, is just great. I'd have loved to see that play out, and the conversation from that night where Tommy shares his theory on the House of Windsor with Philip.

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Does anybody else think Claire Foy is extremely fanciable only to remember the queen was a tiny old lady my entire life then think “ew that’s weird why you gotta do this Claire”?

There were two Adeane Private Secretaries in the Crown (and real life).

• Michael Adeane - secretary to Queen Elizabeth
• Edward Adeane - secretary to Prince Charles.

This relates to the latter.

We see Edward Adeane accompany the young royals on the Australia tour and be forced to say that Prince William is a beautiful baby on the flight, plus in many other places. throughout season 4. Fine.

BUT we also see him in S4 E9 reporting to Charles that Diana is cheating again plus a couple of other times. These incidents occur AFTER the ski accident which killed Charles' friend, Major Hugh Lindsay in 1988.

However, Edward Adeane was only his Private secretary until 1985. Did they forget to replace his private secretary? I know the show is only a representation of the truth, but a lot of dates and timelines seemed to be quite consistent even if the storylines are generally beefed up other than this.

Have I missed something?

(This is about the character and not the irl person and don’t know or pretend to know anything about him)

I get that Tommy and Michael share more common views than Tommy and Martin, but for how cut throat of a job Tommy makes out being a private secretary to be Michael seems like an odd choice. Michael always came across as quite nervous and uncomfortable with situations he should have been prepared for. Tommy took the abdication very seriously and made sure to always ensure that nothing like that could ever happen again. It’s just odd to me he’d choose Micheal to follow him despite Micheal‘s hesitation and general uncomfortableness with the more ruthless parts of his job.

I’m not saying Micheal is bad at his job persay but you could argue that Martin made a better private secretary because he didn’t let his discomfort affect him. Something that Tommy should have noticed since as he said ”they’ve been preparing for the transition for some time”

Edit: Please stop responding to this post with some variation of “Tommy can’t do anything about it.” I’m not saying he could, I’m saying he obviously treats Micheal with some favour and I’m wondering why. That‘s it. I‘m not even saying Martin should have been chosen I’m just asking why someone who is so different from Tommy‘s more ruthless tactics is seen as a good replacement from Tommy‘s tactics. I’m not going to be responding to any more people telling me that tommy can’t do anything about it because it’s not at all what my question is about. This is about the show not IRL customs.

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Just recently got back on netflix and I’ve been doing a rewatch. I want/ed to see the entire series, and I’m not sure if I can do it.

I’m in S2 and the nazi stuff is just starting to come up.

It just hits a bit too close to home for me right now. I’m tempted to skip over it. Can’t really skip over it in real life. Unfortunately.

It’s kinda ruining it for me. It’s such a brilliant show. And… idk. Uggggh!

Can’t believe they did Michael Shea so dirty.

Of all three actress who played the queen who was your favorite? And ranking.

Same for Duke of Edinburgh?

https://youtu.be/fiAYmuNHA6g?si=j0IZyasQYhJ7wK7-

Just finished S3. They've really nailed the casting for this show.

I’ve binged this show probably 5 times now and everytime I get so pissed when Diana asks Charles not to tell she met him as the mad tree because she would get into so much trouble and he says he won’t say anything. Then literally the first thing that comes out of his boca to Sarah is I met your sister. That should have been a red flag for Diana right from the jump. Also, when Sarah tells Charles, she works at a school and he’s says “she’s a teacher” and Sarah says “no, she would have to have actual qualifications for that” and then “the kids love her, and I’m sure their dads love her too” WTF was that shade all about??? Not a fan of Sarah Spencer either!

DISCLAIMER; I know this show isn’t historically correct, kindly understand…I thought it would be nice to talk to people who watch the show since none of my friends or family watch it.

He never wore a uniform like this until after George VI passed and Elizabeth became Queen. What is it ?

Diana was the last one to know the truth. She was the last one to know that everyone knew she wasn't loved and waserely chosen to fulfil a role. The entire family is a narcissistic family system - that ate her up and spit her out many ways! The emotional distrust she'd live with until her death, the spying on her along with the media mobs and the way the evil mother in law was head of state and church and country!?

As someone who made it out of a narc family system twice and lives to tell the tale - they killed her in more than one way.

I have been waiting to find moments where I can get myself to tolerate the queen. But the pompous nature of the character and the naïveté is just unbearable. Every criticism she has received from those around her has been spot on and yet completely missed by her. I see no possibility of redemption and I am at S2E8. I would love to know if there is anyone who shares my view

How much of The Crown series is based on reality? I know that, generally, it is true, but I am speaking about the details. What percentage would you say is real? There are so many one-on-one conversations between people, and they seem pretty informative and important. How did the writers find out about them?

I’m on my second rewatch of the show and I can safely say that they have managed to make me dislike Charles even more this season. I think most will agree when I say he is one of the very few unlikeable characters this season.

He is incredibly self absorbed and in such a rush to be King. He overestimates his abilities and constantly wishes he could push out his mother and like he can’t wait to ascend the throne. Constantly compares himself to Edward VII. He even spoke to the PM about it. (Gosh that awkward conversation!)

I don’t how much of this was dramatised but what did he intend to achieve by speaking to the Prime Minister about “How the institution may not be in safe hands” did the real life Prince Charles also have a meeting with the PM about this??? Very distasteful of him as a son.

I love how they're recreating every outfit though

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Assuming Queen Elizabeth's devotion to Britannia was as strong as the show portrayed, why didn't she finance the cost of refurbishment out of her own pocket? And was it ever replaced? I can't imagine the royal family not owning a yacht - but I have no idea.

Like…why marry someone who you full well know is going to be queen only to whine and complain about coming second and not being seen THE ENTIRE TIME. He always blamed it on her and I’m like sir.. the call is coming from inside the house.

Greatest royal hater of all time.

I just rewatched it and it’s so weird to me how different they portray them. I get that the focus is on William because he’s older and it shows the involvement with Kate. But I’m watching episode five right after Diana dies and William is shown as a grieving teen and melancholy. Whereas Harry is shown as some sort of smuggish troublemaker.

Harry was about 13 when this happened and looked like a little boy but in the show the actor looks to be the same age as William. Like he’s not even passing as a 13-14 year old. And there’s a scene where he sneaks champagne for him and Will to drink, which I find hard to believe he was doing that at 13. In the same episode there’s another scene where Harry is raiding a bar and asking Will which alcohol he wants and grabbing everything like he’s a bartender and he’s done this tons of times. Which again is hard to see a 13 year old doing.

I know a big part of the show is fiction but I feel like it’s weird how they’re painting the story.

For the life of me I can't find the filming locations for the Greek scenes. Does anyone here know?

Sorry, I'm late to the party! I've just finished s4 and started s5. By my own rather shaky knowledge of history, I'm guessing that season 4 ends around 89/90? And the second starts...around 91? Is this accurate? I'm finding the obvious age difference in the new actors so jarring 🤣😭

This made me laugh out loud