Weren't they technically some sort of cousins.....?

Diana wanted loving, faithful and compassionate male partners. The affair with the heart surgeon would, imho, never have passed even initial public stages. Appears that Di was chasing a domestic fantasy, not too different from people on Twitter speaking of domestic lives being provided and cared for by a father figure. She would never have given up her People's Princess role to be a demure wife in a society that is orthodox by Asian standards.

I've been rewatching the whole series and honestly S5 is ghastly. I'm up to the Queen's visit to Russia and her conversation with Philip in their bedroom, re: Penny... 😵‍💫

It's hard to keep going!

Every royal family member is self-righteous, miserable, unable to stand up for themselves for any length of time, dedicated to keeping other family members in "check" as soon as they should find a sliver of confidence and sure footing - eg. Anne first sympathizing with Charles when his taped telephone conversation with Camilla was exposed but when he took it in his stride, even turned the public towards him, Anne was suddenly back to bitter indignation with the rest of the family.

May have to do a fast 180 and go right back to S1 again.

Edit: I don't fault the production, acting or writing. More the trajectory of these characters and seeing them live out the consequences of this "system" and their own nature, + real life events that we all know quite a lot about since the time period becomes contemporary to our own time.

I'm not sure what the "heart" of the story is in these later seasons. Earlier, there were things like watching the dynamics and settling of young love, marriage, devotion, negotiation. The passing of the previous king and an incredible father to two girls. A mourning wife. Ego and feebleness of great men (Churchill).

Vs. later seasons: a runaway sh*tshow, the wheels are coming off. All the things proclaimed, they failed at - stability? (how many PMs, how many lovers/trysts), marriage being sacred (fidelity?!), etc etc. And there's too much moral grandstanding from the queen, entitlement (to the PM: "I want millions to fix my favorite personal pleasure cruise, without question"), too much hypocrisy. Hard to watch, since they do not exactly go on to redeem themselves, it just gets worse. The TV series does a great job concluding itself, concluding Elizabeth's multi-decade journey, but that's the "bow on top" that comes right at the end.

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As an american, it's bullocks. No, i really fucking love it. Thank you

when thatcher phones the queen at 33:42 the camera zooms in on the queen with a large painting behind her. i wanted to find out more about the painting but cannot find any answers.

Can we please talk about these scenes in episode 8 of season one. I'm currently doing a rewatch of The Crown and I just finished watching this episode and I am in shock at the portrayal of Queen Elizabeth's and Prince Phillip's relationship. I mean watching him get angry and go for a cigarette and her pulling it out of his hands exclaiming that it will kill him was then he berates her and starts digging into her by saying that her father King George chose to die from cancer to avoid the tour then he pushes it even farther by asking if all she wants is to hear him say that he finally loves her more then Margret and the look of absolute betrayal and and shock on her face then she starts throwing things at him yelling get out and one of the newsreel people captures it all and she has to go and beg for him to discarded it or give it to her. I cant with this show anymore its so good.

Okay so target has a bunch of stuff from M&S London and as a big lover of The Crown I knew I had to get this ornament to coronate my mini Christmas tree with in my room 😊

Given his age at the time of his ascension (42) and the age of Wallis Simpson (40), and the fact that they never had their own children wouldn’t Elizabeth still have been the heir apparent? She wouldn’t have become Queen until 1972, but if I understand the way the Crown passes, she still would have been next in line correct?

I’m assuming here that Edward was allowed to marry Simpson in this timeline. I am aware that one of the major arguments against the marriage (besides the all important divorces) was that she was too old to produce an heir.

I'd like to start it off with; "I do not wish to be known."

I would love to sit down and have a chat with Jason Watkins as Harold Wilson. What a pleasant face. What a pleasant voice. A deep intellect and calm merry demeanor.

My favourite interaction so far is the one between the queen and philip in s4e4 when discussing their fav child. It's so wholesome :) What's your guys' opinion?

The Crown has literally been my favorite show and I’m so obsessed with it at the beginning with Claire Foy playing the queen but after that I know the actresses are all so wonderful and talented but I just can’t bring myself to them and eventually I stopped watching the show 😭😭 is it just me like I just can’t get over how good Claire Foy is especially the way she portrayed the way the queen speaks. Everything is just so vivid to me.. I love Olivia Colman too, such a great actress but dang… I just can’t get into her as the queen 🥹

It seems that they have zero actual power, they're not involved in the governance of the country other than a weekly audience to fill them in on what's going on, they make speeches, cut ribbons, and it costs billions a year to maintain them in their palaces and splendor. It seems like a cage they live in.

Other than "That's the way it's always been", what purpose does the royal family realistically serve??

was reading about his background and apparently his mother was german jewish (which makes the jewish manicurist line all the more interesting in context—-self hatred related to his mother???)—but was interesting to me that the crown apparently had no problem with princess margaret marrying someone of jewish background or at least it wasn’t mentioned in the show—do we know at all whether there was any issue with his jewish background within the family—i’ve done research and i haven’t rlly seen anything abt it so was curious if anyone might know

Having finished Seasons 1 and 2, what I keep coming back to is...why is any of this necessary? In a parliamentary system like the UK where the work of governance is inherently removed from the royals, it's hard for me not to see the monarchy as an antiquated institution that makes its members miserable for nothing but a symbolic role. Elizabeth is miserable having to dictate to those around her based on laws and customs made before any of them were even born. Phillip is miserable having a wife placed above him and his career taken from him. Margaret is miserable for not having a choice in who she can love. Charles is miserable being forced to "toughen up" at Gordonstoun, as if he's expected to be leading troops into battle against the French one day or something rather than sitting on his ass at state dinners. And I know more decorum-induced misery is to come of course.

I can't help but see it all as being for absolutely nothing. They place expectations on themselves that no one else does (e.g. the public didn't ask Elizabeth to ruin Margaret and Townsend's relationship, in fact they find it incredibly cruel that she does so) and essentially reduce themselves to non-persons so they can carry on like they're still medieval warlords.

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I see the Queen Mother roaming Scotland and being invited into a strangers house with no one else present and Prince Phillip driving out of Buckingham Palace alone to do whatever he pleases?

Does this reflect real life in this time period? Just doesn’t make any sense to me 😅

In recent re-watch of the final season of the crown and Elizabeth the elder having a moment with her subconscious younger self and mid adult life and King Phillip imagining a conversation with Diana on the jet after passing, I can't help to wonder that also Daemon, in dragons having a subconscious phychic or rather spiritual experience in the castle and with his mental war whether to support Raynera or prolong his losing competition with his insolent and obstinate behavior (rather his personal battlefield of the mind) I could only wonder the trending synopsis of consciousness and if that supernatural conflict is limited to or a extraordinary experience that only certain people experience? (like Royals)

Or is that only the imagination of a creative writer?

Great show !