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Art of Seduction, question?

I remember seeing a really good comment on here regarding the Art of Seduction. And it was basically broken down like this:

The basics are:

  1. Every person wants that childhood adventure
  2. Every person wants to have a vacation from reality
  3. Every person wants to feel safe to let go of societal restraints
  4. Every person miss the blissfulness of childhood

I have read the book before but my question is, how can I give this to someone in a way that it doesn't come in flyer miles? LOL How can I turn a regular date into a magical experience for a woman?

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2024/11/02
17:20 UTC

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They Laugh at me because i’m Different, i Laugh at them because they are all the Same 🎭

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2024/11/02
02:37 UTC

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2024/11/01
13:09 UTC

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Robert says in one of his new videos

And I believe 48 laws of Power that it is best to be feared than to be loved….

However, In Seduction he says seducers know to create love and are masters of doing so. When a person is in love the will surrender.

It sounds contradictory to me…

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2024/11/01
12:31 UTC

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The 48 laws of power is a gay book

Basically a Machiavelli copy and paste. The guy behind the book is a little geek that was a loser all of his life and now is trying to pretend he is like machiavelli for a little bit of attention.

You can see in his podcasts based on his speech that he really is a liar and he doesn't give a shit about the value that his customers get.

He pretended to have studied at "LSE" to create a George Soros view of the past but with a quick search on the internet you can find out the guy didn't study shit.

He is a cash cow that tried to gather the attention of young men frustrated with society and created a cheap machiavelli copy paste, with a similar sounding but with pussy principles. Instead of trying to write a book with advice on how to become and act like a Prince, which according to machiavelli you must always put your target far above what you are actually trying to achieve, This guy wrote his book for high school girls.

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2024/10/31
19:14 UTC

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I hate my job. How to escape this loop?

I absolutely hate my job. It is so draining. I am an area manager at an Amazon facility, working overnight shifts, and it’s killing me. I hate it and don’t feel engaged or like I’m getting closer to my goals. I graduated last year with a degree in IT, and when a recruiter reached out to me, the offer sounded pretty good. I didn’t have anything else lined up, so I thought, why not accept the role?

The recruiter told me I’d likely be working the day shift and that it would be easy to transition to a corporate role once I got my foot in the door. I’ve been with the company for about six months now, and I’ve been asking my manager monthly about moving to the day shift. He’s been pretty clear that it’s not going to happen for at least two years. I’ve also done some research about transitioning from working in a warehouse to a corporate role, and it’s extremely difficult. Sure, it helps to have experience at Amazon, but it doesn’t make it any easier to get a corporate-level job.

My passion is in product, marketing, and sales. Prior to accepting this role at Amazon, I was working in sales at an Apple store, which I enjoyed a lot, but it was nearly impossible to move up. They kind of want to keep everyone at the bottom. So now I’m stuck. I don’t know what I should do. Should I quit my job now, take some additional courses, and brush up on my skills, or should I continue working here? I have enough saved up to survive for, let’s say, a year. What would you do?

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2024/10/31
18:34 UTC

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Most dangerous types of people

The books says

  • The Plain, Unassuming, and Often Unintelligent Man: this man will not take the bait because he does not recognize it. Do not waste your resources trying to deceive him.  Have a test ready for a mark - a joke, a story. If reaction is literal, this is the type you are dealing with.

How is this a dangerous kind of person ?? Can someone pls explain

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2024/10/31
10:43 UTC

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2024/10/31
00:25 UTC

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How to handle the drama filled, gossiping Boss

What Laws apply to handling a Bullying Boss, who loves to harass employees/ creates constant drama/ continually gossips about subordinates which creates a toxic environment? Let’s say - you can’t leave the job due to financial loss, so you have no choice but to stay. You’ve tried detachment, not getting emotional, making sure you don’t “outshine the master” and creating better boundaries. Now you need to make a stronger point - what Law applies here?

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2024/10/30
21:33 UTC

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what kind of stories work well where you don't reveal the outcome, where the other person must imagine how it ends themselves?

making people guess whats about to happen increases curiosity, but what kind of stories work best for this?

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2024/10/30
21:11 UTC

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THE POWER OF APPEARANCE

Power is largely a game of appearance, displays of power, deception and manipulation, it took me a lot of years to see behind the masks people wear to cloak their true selves and their true intentions.

People who are seen too much lose their charm, because they become too common and accessible, people who are too aloof also lose their charm only those who maintain a balance of the two have an edge. Controlled appearance is also useful in seduction, politics, work places, relationships and also in businesses.

Therefore people are what they do, not what they say they are, the one who appears the most innocent is the least innocent of all, trust people to be themselves and also trust yourself to see it when they show you.

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2024/10/30
17:29 UTC

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I get it

That’s it, I finished the book a few days ago it was first time ever reading anything like this and I just get it.

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2024/10/30
04:12 UTC

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How I deal with a professor with different political views

I have several professors who are marxists but I have developed a way to deal with the difference in our beliefs to have the best working relationships. I try to mirror their opinions and if I hear them mention an idea in class I try to mirror it back at him. This is law 38 in action I conceal my actual beliefs and put up a facade that aligns with my profesor's views

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2024/10/30
06:39 UTC

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How to practice the law : Always say less than necessary?which condition? How ?

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2024/10/30
09:15 UTC

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What is your opinion on Nietzsche?

On his works overall, they seem pretty good despite not reading a lot of his work. But soon, I will. As a person, it's pretty interesting. But overall, I feel really bad for him as he has lead a tragic life like Schopenhauer.

8 Comments
2024/10/29
23:50 UTC

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Standing out in Internship Applications

How would one go about using the 48 laws of power to standout in a poll of applications. For context I'm applying to a fashion internship which are notoriously competitive. I've thought about reaching out to recruiters and using law 13.

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2024/10/29
21:14 UTC

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How to Identify Intelligent People?

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2024/10/29
05:06 UTC

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What laws did Robert Greene miss or leave out?

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2024/10/28
23:45 UTC

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What law of power do you struggle with implementing the most?

for me its never outshining the master since I like to show off a lot

17 Comments
2024/10/28
23:10 UTC

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What Law of power do you disagree with?

by this I mean do you disagree with robert green on any laws of power and would you add/remove something

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2024/10/28
23:10 UTC

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How can I use the 48 laws in my life?

I’m in tech school for the Air Force, currently reading the 48 laws of power and wondering how I’m supposed to “gain power” in an environment that’s all about learning.

2 Comments
2024/10/28
11:46 UTC

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The Power of Indifference

I have realized through experience that most people are more emotional than they think or imagine themselves to be.

As a student of the 48 laws of power, Machiavellianism, you really need to work on being indifferent to both victory and defeats. Personally I have learned more from defeat than I have ever learned from victory, also learn to treat insults the same way you treat compliments.

34 Comments
2024/10/27
18:04 UTC

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This author doesn't hold back🤣

People who are self-sufficient are generally types who are more comfortable with themselves. They do not look for things that they need from other people. Paradoxically this makes them more attractive and seductive. We wish we could be more like that and want to be around them, hoping that some of their independence might rub off on us. The needy, clingy types—often the most sociable—unconsciously push us away. We feel their need for comfort and validation and secretly we want to say to them: “Get it for yourself—stop being so weak and dependent.”

-Robert Greene

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2024/10/27
16:34 UTC

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2024/10/27
13:48 UTC

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Woman I went out with acts cold and distant, when I mimic the behavior she suddenly seems to care, ask whats wrong, and if im ok, what do I do?

I went on a date with a coworker two months ago, and we were very flirty at work, with everyone thinking she might be my girlfriend. After I asked her out for a second date, she was enthusiastic, but setting it up became a hassle, found out she just enjoys male attention, talks to many guys, and apparently had a boyfriend? Or online boyfriend? Which I heard from others. When I stopped giving her hugs and attention, she noticed and asked why, saying I didn’t love her anymore. I still found her attractive and half-tried for a month, hoping to salvage something (never asked her out again, but flirted). We’d have cute flirty interactions that reminded me of when we first were really into eachother, which gave me hope, but then she'd go cold and start avoiding eye contact among other things, a few days ago she legit ignored me a few times asking her something while texting probably another dude. Today, when I first walked by, thinking Id say hi, she quickly turned away, making me realize I was done. I decided to deprive her of attention—no jokes or eye contact when we walked by. She noticed, asked if I was okay twice over the course of the shift, and tried joking with me a few times, but I gave polite, distant responses while at the same time laughing with other coworkers.

As she was leaving, she went up to me, asked why I seemed so serious today. I laughed and asked what she meant, but she seemed upset saying "I cant even ask you questions anymore?" I was genuinely confused and asked what she meant, she was saying I didn’t make fun of her anymore or joke around with her. I asked if she wanted me to, and she looked bothered. Then I joked about how I'll bully her tomorrow, she joked back saying "not too much though since I'm sensitive" she asked what time I work tomorrow and i told her, she seemed a little embarrassed, as if the power dynamic shifted in my favor. After she left, I got out an hour after, I noticed her car was still there, with her in it; walked by talking on the phone without even looking over at all, the second she saw me, her ignition turned on, possibly feeling awkward and drove away quickly when I got to my car

So what laws apply here? What strategies from the art of seduction should I use when I work with her next? (This isnt a serious job) I'm not rude, I’m just mirroring her behavior, and I suspect she’s seeking the attention she’s not getting from another guy. I want her to keep wanting my attention, the problem is, I feel like if I cold turkey completely she'll eventually really move on, so how do I go forward with this?

Edit: I want to make it clear I dont want a relationship with this woman, or trying anymore, what I want is to keep her on the fishing line until she really wants me and be something she cant have, I always wanted an upfront relationship but she was the one who started playing games first. It may sound sick but I want revenge for how she made me feel.

43 Comments
2024/10/27
10:18 UTC

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The 48th law

Given that the 48th law requires us to have no form, to unlearn everything the other 47 laws before it have taught us and think for ourselves. How many are willing to do that?

20 Comments
2024/10/26
20:55 UTC

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Reposted in 4k

14 Comments
2024/10/26
16:09 UTC

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Must I outshine the master?

So we have a teacher, (stupid, arrogant and self-centred) who teaches us the wrong stuff. And every time I want to kick her foolish ass down, I am reminded of the first law. The true problem came when I realised that I was the only person capable of proving her wrong. First, she teaches us wrong stuff and then when we write, in our papers, whatever she taught us, she insults us—such hypocrisy.

I can't suffer anymore, as it will badly affect my marks.

Must I take action, for the betterment of all including myself?

Despite knowing the consequences...?

40 Comments
2024/10/26
11:21 UTC

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What crime figure best exemplifies the laws from the 48 Laws of Power? And how so?

It can be any other kind of criminal. Varying from serial killers, Mafia gangsters, and even Harlem mobsters like Bumpy Johnson and Frank Lucas. Admittedly, idk much of Mafia history including history from famous mobsters. Yet I want to soon!

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2024/10/26
03:25 UTC

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Law 27 create a cult for people to believe in

I’m having trouble with this one cause I don’t know how to introduce the cult thing to people and make them follow it , is it common for people to say yes and no ??? Any tips thanks 🙏🏽

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2024/10/25
16:03 UTC

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