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A place for SUMO.
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6) Fan art, memorabilia pictures/photos, or random rikishi pictures/photos are not allowed between the announcement of the banzuke and one week after the conclusion of the basho.
Karla Sumoist : All divisions, Abema coverage (Japanese commentary).
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Leo Dickinson : Lower divisions, self-commentary for top division, Abema coverage.
Miselet : All divisions, Abema coverage (Japanese commentary).
Salt City Sumo : Abema Coverage (English Commentary).
The Basho schedule typically runs from 9am to 6pm (Japan time). Juryo dohyo-iri is just after 2pm with the action starting sometime after that, and makuuchi dohyo-iri is at 3:30pm, with the bouts starting at 4pm usually. This changes on senshuraku (day 15), where things typically start earlier to make sure there's time for the award ceremony. Times may vary.
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Hey,
I'm looking for a specific bout from Chiyonofuji where he or another wrestler lost because his hair touched the ground. It was a very close call. Thanks in advance !
Looking for the episodes that have aged out of availability on the NHK app. Thanks!
Hello All!
Been doing some Sumo research, I keep hearing about the Hierarchy, and the exact quote in a TikTok was "some beyas place Hierarchy above all else".
I have a couple of questions that I hope can be answered, or at least, me pointed in the right direction:
1.) Is Hierarchy based on age AND rank or just rank. I.e. 35 year old rikishi who is in Sandame, but has been at the stable for 20 years vs a 24 year old Sanyaku rikishi.
2.) Do you know which stables the comment is referring to?
3.) If a low-ranking (not low but within the Top Divisions say Juryo 8) retires and becomes a coach, are they automatically granted more "respect" than lets say an Ozeki?
4.) How does the Coach Hierarchy apply to the rikishi Hierarchy.
Note: This is how is SHOULD work, not how it does, I understand there is probably some internal JSA politics and such that affect everything.
The context behind this one makes it even better: going into 1982, Chiyonofuji is a rising sensation, having taken three of the six available yusho in 1981 and earned promotion from Sekiwake to Ozeki and then to Yokozuna in the course of a year. Wakanohana II and Kitanoumi, his rival Yokozuna, are still young and seeking to prove they are not in decline (spoiler alert: they are).
Wakanohana in particular has had a disastrous 1981 in which he missed half the year due to injury and lost his one shot at a yusho to the rising Kotokaze.
Going into day 13 of Haru 1982, Chiyonofuji is 12-0 and gunning for a zensho. Kitanoumi is hot on his tail with 1 loss. Behind him, stablemates Wakanohana and Shin-Ozeki (future Yokozuna) Takanosato are sitting on two losses each. The tournament is in Chiyonofuji's bag. Then this happens...
https://x.com/SumoZeki/status/1863091773557338490
...and blasts the tournament wide open.
The following day, things get even more exciting as Takanosato hands Chiyonofuji a second loss and Wakanohana beats Kitanoumi to pull even with 11 wins each. The stage is set for a possible 4-way playoff between three Yokozuna and an Ozeki.
Unfortunately, it was not to be. Kotokaze beat Wakanohana on Senshuraku, holding him to 11 wins yet again. Then Chiyonofuji, whose record against Kitanoumi was a dreadful 2-11 at the time, managed to raise that to 3-11 and ran away with the yusho.
The torch had, fairly decisively, been passed. Wakanohana would intai in less than a year. Kitanoumi would start to suffer from injuries and take frequent kyujo. Chiyonofuji, and the pack of young Ozeki and Ozeki-to-be rising in his wake, were just getting started.
Hi! I wanted to ask a question about the ticket sale for januaruy's basho.
I want to go to January's sumo tournament in Tokyo. The site says the general sell starts on January 7th.
How hard is it to get 4 people square box seats "A" or "S" at the general sale? Do they sell out really fast?
Hello All!
Belated Happy Thanksgivings!
Looking around, what is the promotion requirements for a Yokozuna. Someone did a post a few days/week ago about the possibility of two Yokozuna promotions.
With Koto winning this Basho with a 14 - 1. His previous tournament he scored a 8 - 7. Making it 22 - 8. If he performs well next tournament, say again 13 - 2, making it 35 - 10. Can he be promoted, he has won a Basho and he has more than 33 wins (Also is that the Ozeki promotion specific?) Will he have to win an additional Basho, or consecutive Bashos to be promoted.
Example:
Tero comes back for the Jan Basho and he dominates, say 13 - 2 or 12 - 3. NGL, I think this man is one of the GOATs, or at least needs to be part of the conversation, so like maybe 14 - 1 or 15 - 0? In anycase, Tero does well, and in the title match it is him and Koto. Koto does well too with 13 - 2, but does NOT beat Tero. Can he be promoted vs if he beats Tero and gets the Emperors Cup?
TIA.
After a match like abi v hoshoryu on day 7, where the gyoji calls the tachiai good, even though it looked like a false start to a lot of people, could the judges call for a mono-ii and decide on a rematch?
I don't think they could reverse the decision, since a false start isn't an automatic loss like grabbing the topknot is for example.
I guess on the one hand my question is about whether they have the power to decide that, which i would presume they do. On the other hand, wouldn't it be incredibly disrespectful to the gyoji, and thats why they don't do it?
I'm still quite new to sumo, so if i made any mistakes in my assumptions please correct me, i'd love to learn :)
Hi I really hope these types of questions are allowed I have recently went down a many hour-long sumo rabbit hole and I really respect the sport and I love watching the matches I started watching videos recently on life in the dohyo, throughout the past 3 years I have done calisthenics and sandbag training but I wanted something that would help me to build explosive power and size after watching the sumos they seem to have everything I'm looking for I love to eat and I think usable power is the best type, however there is not a ton of information online as to everything sumo wrestlers do to get a strong as they do. In the state that I live there is no groups nearby me to practice with so I'm just wondering how can I exercise at home like a sumo I have weighted bags that I could use for carries to emulate them carrying their opponent outside of the ring I have ample space and I even have a sled that I could use for pushing movements but as far as structuring a Monday through Friday workout routine I am lost. I'm a busy dad of two boys who works a lot of hours but I want to stay physically fit and strong for them so I'm just curious if anyone out there can give me a detailed routine of what to do what days. I'm not afraid of hard work and I roughly have two to three hours every night to work out once my boys are asleep thanks in advance any guidance is appreciated
Watching a compilation of Kotozakura's bouts in his recent yusho win, I couldn't help noticing that he was going backwards a lot. Since Koto is known for his strength this is something I've not really noticed before with him. Is this atypical for him in recent years?
I'm an amateur watcher so possibly talking out of my ass, but it seemed like something he was doing more this time. Seems like a clever strategy to have them overcommit and pull.
The days he was using reverse gear are:
*Day 1 - Shodai *Day 3 - Oho (loss) *Day 7 - Atamifuji *Day 8 - Churanoumi (tho he was more in control of this bout and used the backwards movement more as a throw) *Day 10 - Tobizaru (similar to Churanoumi bout) *Day 13 - Takanosho *Day 14 - Onosato
I’m interested in tickets on March 21st. Buy sumo tickets is not taking any more requests for that day. They go on sale in February but I’m worried I will not get tickets
So I regularly hear about how Endo is the dreamy ideal and Ura is "a crowd favorite". I've also heard the occasional comment about how Asashoryu and Hakuho would occasionally get into trouble by the JSA for this or that, but are there (or have there been) any rikishi who were generally disliked by the public?
EDIT: Meant to say Ura, not Abi, was a "crowd favorite".
I’m a big Musashimaru fan and will be traveling to Oahu soon. Are there any places there that have sumo historical markers or memorabilia/goods on the island? TIA
Hey all,
Maybe a bit of a shot in the dark, but I'd love to get involved with amateur sumo in the area. I live in Indianapolis, and from what I've gathered, it seems alot may be located in the Midwest USA.
I'm 41 with some lingering baseball injuries so competiting myself sounds kind of out of the question but I'd love to learn to referee or just show up and help.
If you are involved with these events, or know someone who is, please shoot me a PM.
Thanks!
Mr JWags mentioned it in his latest video and I'm at a bit of a loss here.
Sure, it's very pretty and "modern" but it's also just a reskin of the sumodb data?
I can't find anything like an about or info page and I thought sumodb was famously opposed to any sort of licensing or api. Did that change or did someone just siphon all the history and rehost?
If a deal was made, great, maybe it won't crash as much, but I'm hesitant to support a pretty reskin over the guy who put in the work
Never watched Sumo since Wakanohana/Takanohana/Akebono on Eurosports
Last days of my visit, Yokozunas dropped out after
.. and that little guy... everybody was going crazy...
Sumo Prediction Game results for Kyushu 2024 are up! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B_c37D4rSX12ef3-scYxVKw9lxpNW6IjwpjpcDKqs24/edit?usp=sharing Gang, we didn't do so hot this time on a couple of questions. There was a question with only two correct responses(most Ozeki wins in the last 5 days, no one believed in Kotozakura except Eatplaysumo and Namakemono), only Kachikoshi thought that Kirishima would get 0-8 wins, and NOBODY predicted that Kotoeiho and Kotoshoho would get a measly 10 wins combined. That might be the first goose egg in Sumo Prediction Game history. kachikoshi won the yusho with 11 correct answers, a full 2 more answers than the Jun-yusho contenders. The average was actually 5.9 wins, which I am going to add 2 to for everyone. This gives the majority of people KKs that participated, but that's fine. Kyujo players get 4 wins.
Thank you all for playing!
So just thought I would share my experiences after taking in the 7th and 9th days of this past basho in Fukuoka.
Watching the lowest divisions wrestle was much like watching a high school wrestling event in the United States. The stands have not yet filled up and many of those that are there appear to be relatives of various wrestlers there to give support.
Obviously as the day goes on the overall quality of the wrestling improves, but even in the lower division you will occasional see a match which makes you sit up and note the wrestlers name so you can follow him as he advances.
My son and I had purchased a pair seat because I thought the table and having an actual seat would be nice, but the next time we go I think we'll go for a box seat a little closer- though i am not upset with the view from the pair seat itself we could see everything. I will need to bring an extra pillow because my older frame needs a little more padding to sit on.
Now on to the wrestling.
TV can not convey the incredible effort that you can see in person. The tachiai is explosive (usually) and the amount of energy, effort, and pure power displayed during the matches is incredible. After seeing it in person you completely understand how the wrestlers who are well trained athletes, despite the bulk, can be so spent after a one or two minute match.
Having only been able to watch NHK highlights or the edited bouts an Natto I was very entertained by the lead up to the upper division matches as the wrestles prepped and preened before the bouts started.
It is amazing how the wrestlers handle the fall from the raised dohyo and usually avoid injury. It is easy to see how some of them are hurt like Mitakeumi, but their awareness and adjustment is impressive.
The matches schedule is tight and the wrestling pretty much non stop.
Does anyone who hasn't been to a basho have any questions?
Hi all,
Tourist to Japan here. Is there any chance to see any sort of sumo in early January (before the tournament in mid-January)?
Any suggestions from a museum to a practice would be appreciated
Do you feel like the “neck thrusting” (not sure the name for it) is a fad the sport is currently going through? Feels more prevalent in recent times and I’m thinking other fighters are using it more because of Abi and his success using it. Hoshoryu even used it when fighting kotozakura in the last tournament. I’ve been watching lots of tournaments from asashoryu’s era and people seem to go for belt grabs more in that era. Curious about your thoughts.
I like how everyone completely misunderstood my question. I wasn’t asking if the nodowa was a new move.