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Welcoming any and all interesting links regarding Sumerian. The language, the culture, modern interest or pop culture references.

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Meshkiangasher

Can anyone translate the meaning of his name? Mes=hero? I’ve seen the MES word in Gilgames , Mesannapada

In your opinions could these names be merely titles and the kings listed also had proper first names ?

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2024/04/14
19:43 UTC

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Sumerian cuneiform

I'm currently taking sumerian classes, but our teacher said we aren't going to learn to read cuneiform due to not having enough time to, so I decided to try doing it myself.

Are there any books or materials you recommend, aside from the Pennsylvanian Sumerian Dictionary?

I don't know Akkadian by the way, but next year a course has been scheduled which I will attend.

Thanks in advance.

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2024/04/13
11:06 UTC

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Can the mods PLEASE ban the crazy cultists?

Is this subreddit for appreciating and discussing the historical Sumerian society, or for crazy people to ramble about their weird cult? Is there even an active mod? I'm seriously at my wit's end with this and I know I'm not the only one

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2024/04/12
22:04 UTC

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What would phrases like “wise mind”, “open mind”, or something like “divine mind/thoughts” be in Sumerian?

I’m wanting to use one of the names for a wip musical project. It would be some sort of solo metal project but with a focus on positivity and a kind of egalitarian/universal view of things. I’ve tried ChatGPT a few times and the results it gave me are NUN.GAL for “wise mind”, ŠU.GAL for “open mind”, and for “divine mind/thoughts” I’m assuming that if would just be the word/sign for mind/thought/s but with the dingir sign before it. Are those correct translations?

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2024/04/06
15:41 UTC

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Word for "Hope"

Hi there!
I'm trying to find the Sumerian word for "hope"
I'd love to create a super interesting and attention grabbing post but I'm trying to figure it out for a short story competition that's due in about 20 hours and is taking all my creative juice, lol 😅
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks in advance!

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2024/03/21
15:51 UTC

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I'm trying to find ancient sumerian text to help my translating skills but I'm struggling to find any online for free does anyone have recommendations

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2024/03/20
10:36 UTC

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how can i learn?

i'm 15 years old and i found about the language recently. i thought i could learn it for fun, but i dont any ways to learn. can someone help me with some tips?

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2024/03/18
17:43 UTC

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What did Sumerians call the people who spoke Akkadian/Semitic before the city of Akkad was founded?

I’m assuming that there was some differentiation before Sargon founded Akkad. Thanks!

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2024/03/17
19:31 UTC

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Where is the most comprehensive lists of pre-cuneiform pictographs

I'm trying to find the most comprehensive lists of sumerian pictographs that evolved into cuneiform. I've seen several images with example evolutions from pictograms through cuneiform with maybe 20 symbols, and a list of maybe 80 pictographs with their meanings. How many pictographs are known? Is there any resource that comprehensively lists them?

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2024/03/14
05:05 UTC

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Do any of you epigraphers ever use a dead language that you know for personal use?

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2024/03/12
20:25 UTC

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How to form agent-nouns in sumerian?

For example: how to turn shu hul 𒋗𒅆𒌨, "to destroy", into "destroyer"? Do you guys know any suffix for that or something?

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2024/03/07
20:55 UTC

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Sumerian Lessons

Hi guys, I am 20 years old and this 2024 I want to learn Sumerian but have found it very difficult, I have decided that I need your help. (I want to become fluent btw) I was wondering if any of y'all would like to be my teacher. I will pay you, if it matches my budget. Just dm me your price per lesson and we can start lessons on discord or zoom or any other social platform. Hoping to get your response.

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2024/03/05
05:32 UTC

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HELPIN' PEEPS

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2024/03/05
00:12 UTC

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Translator for a fantasy novel

I need a translator for my fantasy novel. I have a few passages that I want translated into Sumerian, written in cuneiform that will be at the beginning of each part. If you would like to help just send me a message. Thank you!

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2024/02/29
23:17 UTC

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Does this have any meaning?

A friend with whom I share the interest in sumerian sent this to me.

He says it is supposed to mean "I was who I am. Don't say: he didn't exist! My father gave me a name, like his father. I didn't die, I slept: the Flood hit, and I was carried away to far away places", but I don't know the language enough to be able to tell. Thanks in advance.

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2024/02/29
15:15 UTC

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Does this seal say "animal expert"?

I'm doing a little presentation about the history of veterinary medicine for school and a lot of sourses mention this man, urlugaledinna, as a sumerian veterinarian, but they all reference one study that I can't find + the translation on the Louvre website just says "doctor" without specifying which kind, so I hesitate to put him in my speech. Can anyone confirm or deny?

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2024/02/29
08:04 UTC

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Flora and fauna?

Is there a good source of what animals and plants were native/wild/prolific in ancient Sumeria (especially Akkadian period)? I catch references here and there to some animals, and a few plants, but nothing more comprehensive. Thank you in advance!

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2024/02/28
14:35 UTC

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THE AMAZING TALENT OF SUMERIAN SCRIBES

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2024/02/27
18:17 UTC

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What would something like Me-en nu-subar-ĝal₂-da or Me-en nu-gub-da translate to in English?

I’m trying to say something like “I will not serve”. Or something to the effect of that.

6 Comments
2024/02/27
16:11 UTC

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Sumerian Dictionary

Hi guys, I am learning Sumerian but I hard it quite difficult to find any good Sumerian dictionaries, most of the dictionaries are either Akkadian or just have the Latin form but no Cuneiform. Hope y'all can help me out! 𒄒!

20 Comments
2024/02/20
10:11 UTC

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What would an affectionate name like “good boy/girl” be in Sumerian?

It would be for something like a pet. I’ve tried using ChatGPT but it doesn’t seem to work properly.

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2024/02/19
16:07 UTC

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Translator?

I’m working on a short story, and want to use some Sumerian in it. I can’t seem to find any translator on the interwebz thou. Maybe one of you can do me a favor?

“WE THREE MAIDENS ARE GIFTED WITH MAGICAL ABILITIES. WE WILL GRANT YOU ONE WISH , AND IT WILL LAST YOU FOR A LIFE TIME”

Thanks!

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2024/02/18
15:51 UTC

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Mul.apin transcribed in cuneiform?

I asked here previously about Babylonian star names and got zero responses, I guess this sub is just dead. But I thought I would try again. Does anyone know of a paper, website, or book that includes transcriptions of the mul.apin tablets in cuneiform? Pretty much everyone gives transliterations in roman characters.... but seeing as there are some 800 different cuneiform symbols and that cuneiform may represent half a dozen different languages (well, possibly two in the mul.apin texts).... I'm kind of surprised the transcriptions don't also include the original cuneiform. Is the only way to get access to that to literally spend a decade in university learning how to read Sumerian and Akkadian and fly to museums all over the world with a magnifying glass? That seems... odd to me. I have seen a few websites that had transcriptions in a sumerian cuneiform font for some short passages of example texts. I guess I was hoping for something like that for the mul.apin tablets.

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2024/02/14
18:07 UTC

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Babylonian star names?

Hello, I am looking for a list of the common names of the stars (asterisms) and their translations, used by the Babylonians in the MUL.APIN or similar stellar catalogue. Wikipedia sadly only includes the zodiacal asterisms and other searches have turned up as dead ends. I did find mentions of one book that sounds really promising as it apparently also includes descriptions, but it is currently out of print: The Cuneiform Uranology Texts: Drawing the Constellations, by Paul-Alain Beaulieu, Eckart Frahm, Wayne Horowitz, and John Steele.

I was able to find a research paper online that looks at decoding the MUL.APIN list: The new atlas of the stars: constellations, stars and celestial objects, by Susanne M Hoffmann. From what I was able to put together it seems like some asterisms definitively had MUL star names, while others were simply referred to by the DINGIR god they represented. But even in her paper some of the listings do not have common transliterations, or English translations of them.

To be clear, I would like a list of the common names in Babylonian and hopefully the English translations (or aspect of the god) as well. So for example:

  MUL.APIN = Epinnu = "The Plough"
  DINGER.LUGAL-IR = Lulgalirra = "The strong one" of the Great Twins

Any recommendations for books or resources that might be helpful?

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2024/02/07
19:02 UTC

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Is there any evidence for words that they came up with for animal sounds?

I’m aware that other cultures and languages have their own words for various animal sounds. Are there any present in any of the discovered tablets? Like woof for a dog, or meow, or chirp, or roar? I find it deeply fascinating how different cultures describe different animal sounds and the differences and similarities between each of them.

3 Comments
2024/02/07
17:52 UTC

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What would be a few good examples for how to translate “car” into Sumerian?

I’ve been trying to use a chatgpt app but it doesn’t seem to be working. Like it seems to regularly make mistakes.

10 Comments
2024/02/07
17:41 UTC

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Book Collection

Assembling a collection of Mesopotamian literature with emphasis on the origin, progression, and evolution of the Sumerian belief system and the impact of their influence upon the near east region during the duration of their civilization’s historic existence.

What are some other potential suggestions from credible, scholarly, or academic-level resources to review from in this field of study?

8 Comments
2024/01/31
05:15 UTC

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