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Which sign lists should a beginner memorize?

I am trying to learn Sumerian as someone who isn't an academic or studying this professionally, and I am aware of a few different works which include sign lists. Borger 2003, Mittermayer 2006, Volk 2012, and the ETCSL sign list. So far I've been looking at Mittermayer, and I noticed that many of the signs are very different from the Unicode versions but still somewhat similar. If it is relevant, I am planning on using the Oracc ETCSRI as a practice resource. I was wondering, which of these four sign lists (or maybe another) should a beginner memorize or work the most with to start?

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2024/12/02
18:50 UTC

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Correct translation for "you don't belong here"?

Hi, machine given me this as Sumerian translation for "You dont belong here."

NU.DINGIR.RA.ESH3

But I can't be sure, particularly because of the number at the end. What is the correct, or mostly correct translation of this sentence?

Thanks.

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2024/12/02
11:31 UTC

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Age of Empires Mobile if it was good

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2024/12/01
00:26 UTC

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SUMERIAN TEMPORAL CLAUSE

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2024/11/28
08:32 UTC

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Yo mama’s shadow has a footprint… (Joke in Sumerian)

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2024/11/26
14:27 UTC

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Tugtushe

where does Brazilian remember hair and virgin human hair come from?

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2024/11/16
05:25 UTC

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Are these phrases written in correct Sumerian?

Hi! I'm currently investigating a grimoire supposedly written in 2000 in Brazil by a woman interested in witchcraft that could be modern fraud - probably made by a paid artist in 2024. This grimoire is written in English, with passages in Tupi, Latin and... Sumerian.

So, could anyone help me with these passages? Are they coherent? Do they seem like someone trying to write in Sumerian with some knowledge, or just AI gibberish?

usumgal-gu in-sà-ga portal ud-da-la kalam-gu-la Malek-gu in-dul sag-gu

Su dumu-giy , em-nu igi-bar dumu-gal ka-me ra me-lugal em-su- lu du nu – kur , ki-igi-ge su-na-na

uš-me-e ki-sikil-dam-ma nu-gál lá-bi-ta é-sarma ba-na-dù. Šu dumu-dam kur-ĝu10 igi-bi baši-gub u4-dul lu-ma-;-da-na mušen eĝir-bi igima é-gin7 ma-gin7-ma ba-ra-kar

Udeh-tsa-lis-di e-qua no-si-yu-sdi, A-tsi-s-gi-i du-yu-ka-nodv-s-ga, E-qua do-i-sv-i du-de-sv-ta-nv-hi, Ts-yo-li-di-a.

DINGIR-MALEK, é-KUR, za-ra še-mu-ni-bi, a-ši-gub é-lam-ma By giš-dúr gibil ki-ta-ta-ra, dím-ma, šà ga-ba-am3, ki-bi-šár na-ĝál ma-si-ga. ḪUL-gi na-luĝal mu-ga-na-bu! DINGIR-MALEK e-umun-ta-ra, še-mu dumu sáĝ. GIBIL-ig mul ĝá-gub, id-šàr igi-im-mi-ĝar u3-umun é-úr-ma-ma. Giš-búr-ba, gé šà gi-gír, DINGIR-MALEK én-mu-bi, en-na-ku ig-gig.

Many thanks to anyone that could help me!

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2024/11/16
05:05 UTC

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Did the ancient Mesopotamians have a word for the concept of good will towards others or an ethical system like the Nordic frith?

I’m curious as to what they had or saw as duties to treatment of others. I can imagine there are a lot of specific examples in the Babylonian Councils of Wisdom.

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2024/11/15
17:14 UTC

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What would be some translations for the words/concepts order and chaos?

I’m interested in seeing what they are because for order I’m wanting to make a sort of order aligned space marine faction in 40k and am also curious as to what the cuneiform symbol looks like.

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2024/11/12
15:08 UTC

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Indara / Nin*dara is Sumerian borrowed into Indo-Aryan possibly through the Oxus Civilization

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2024/11/10
12:19 UTC

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Testing Chat GPT with ancient sumerian

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2024/11/10
00:51 UTC

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Should I start learning Akkadian?

I’m learning sumerian right now and I’m on video 2 of Digital Hammurabi. I like sumerian but people say you should start with Akkadian first because it was more widely used and easier and can help me with sumerian too and that sumerian grammar and vocabulary is incomplete. Should I kep learning sumerian or learn Akkadian because it’s more know and more used.

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2024/11/08
14:01 UTC

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After I found out my ancestors were Sumerian I booked a flight straight to Ur, oh Gilgamesh I will finish what you started!!😭😭

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2024/11/07
15:54 UTC

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Request from community: who is 𒁹𒆠𒁷𒉡?

Hello.

For context: there is a famous video game that uses orbital mechanics, and a mod called Principia which adds N-body dynamics to said game. The releases of this mod are named after various scientists, in their own native languages - which include Mandarin, Russian, and Polish.

One such release is called 𒁹𒆠𒁷𒉡, a name in cuneiform. I have tried to search for who this person might be or what their significance is to history, but I cannot find any results with these characters. I suspect they may be a scientist or otherwise someone who contributed something to early human philosophy.

If anyone here knows who 𒁹𒆠𒁷𒉡 is, or at least how their name is pronounced, I would like to know.

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2024/11/06
17:36 UTC

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Finding out my ancestors are Sumerian

Hi guys, I’m a marsh Arab and I found out today that I’m Sumerian, I have no knowledge about my ancestors and run into this reddit!

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2024/11/05
14:48 UTC

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"Why you shouldn’t hire Martu construction workers…" A short scene written and read in Sumerian by Mr. Flibble's Sumerian Translations

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2024/11/04
01:50 UTC

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ANCIENT SUMERIAN LANGUAGE (The ventive prefix)

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2024/10/29
23:04 UTC

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Confused about venus/moon

I'm confused. Inanna represents Venus. But I see her being conflated with moon goddesses. There are also people writing that she is the goddess of everything including the moon, the universe and the earth. Where do they get that from? Foes Inanna have lunar powers because she waxes and wanes like tge moon?

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2024/10/20
11:27 UTC

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Can anyone help translate this (admittedly bastardized) Sumerian / Akkadian prayer?

I've sought to translate this on my own using the various dictionaries and academic translators available on the internet without much success, and was hoping I could get some help from the experts/expertise I've observed here.

ENU SHUB AM GIG ABSU KISH EGIGGA GAR SHAG DA SISIE AMARDA YA DINGIR UD KALAMA SINIKU DINGIR NINAB GUYU NEXRRANIKU GA YA SHU SHAGMUKU TU

* I am aware this prayer was popularized in the Simon Necronomicon which is a manufactured mash-up of prayer translations previously published in academic texts - however, I searched about a half-dozen academic sources and wasn't able to find anything even remotely similar to this particular prayer, which has only fueled my interest for a translation, even if only partial.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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2024/10/18
02:07 UTC

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How would you say “who is your master?” Or “who do you serve?” Or something to the effect of those be in Sumerian?

So far from my own search I’ve found a-ba e-zé gub-da. Although I can imagine it’s probably wrong.

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2024/10/09
17:19 UTC

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What would be an accurate or adequate translation of the word/concept of the pleroma? Like within Gnosticism.

So far I’ve found éšša and kiri₄-zal. And I’m also looking for it in Akkadian as well and so far I’ve found gamru and possibly kiššatu. Although the second Akkadian one also seems to refer to the material world. Or would the word have to be a kind of descriptor of the concept like paradise or oneness. Or something like those.

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2024/10/06
12:34 UTC

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What's the origin of the name of Lagash?

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2024/09/29
12:11 UTC

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Sumer is the place that this planet received civilization from. Any arguments?

From the Arts, science, writing, math, to the inventions like the wheel, beer, mascara, irigation, the calender, to time, and contracts. Ea, and Enlil were the guys running the Garden of Eden. Ea(Enki) was the serpent, Enlil was the guy in the bible who always spoke so harshly to man. Any arguments?

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2024/09/26
12:28 UTC

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Best compendium/anthology of all?

I have always been interested in ancient Sumerian mythology, have read a number of works, and want to continue reading.

What is don't like is that there doesn't seem to be any really complete collection. Everything I have read is a fragment of the total sum of works. I can't find a really definite and complete collection.

Can anyone help point me in the right direction?

2 Comments
2024/09/22
20:54 UTC

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Resource for learning syntax?

I'm considering trying to translate the Litany Against Fear from Dune into Sumerian to then write it in cuneiform.

I need to get the syntax and the word order right though.

9 Comments
2024/09/21
15:46 UTC

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How do you say "Your attempts to defeat are insatisfying, nor will they be fruitful." in Sumerian?

2 Comments
2024/09/04
20:43 UTC

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Collective of Deities

Greetings!
Was the concept of a worshipping a collective of Deities in the same temple, at the same time, used by the ancient Mesopotamians? Deities that were usually closely associated with each other were worshipped at the same time.
This association is usually represented by a certain number, think of a trinity. But it could be any other number of Deities, not just 3.
What were the Deities usually associated with it?
And if this was indeed a true case, i'd also like to know the name of a temple where archaeological evidence was found to support the concept.
Thank you!

2 Comments
2024/08/25
09:20 UTC

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Sumerian language being taught in northeastern Syria

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2024/08/24
16:20 UTC

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