I'm a prospective student very interested in St. John's but the only thing that worries me about attending the school is the high tuition prices. I know that the school is cheaper than most private liberal arts schools and gives out a very significant amount of financial aid and scholarships, but I'd still be paying much more in tuition that I can afford and take on a lot of student loan debt most likely. So I want to ask, how did low-income students do after graduating from St. John's? Would you say the connections and opportunities you gained benefited you and your career afterwards? Would you say the tuition was worth the education? Have you been able to handle the student loan debt?

Hello! I am thinking about St. John's College, as its educational philosophy is quite appealing to me. However, I am a bit wary of the mathematics curriculum; namely, there does not seem to be any coverage of modern algebra, a subject which I am quite interested in. I would like to know, then, whether modern algebra (Galois theory, group theory, ring and field theory, etc.) is covered at all in any classes at St. John's.

For those of you in or exploring the graduate institute: how have you navigated the financial aid conversation? The sticker price of the program appears to be ~45k. I've always heard paying for grad school is a bad idea. I'm not sure I have a strong enough application to receive substantial merit scholarships. I'm also really looking at this program to compliment a health sciences degree to bring the human experience articulated through great books to the forefront of patient care.

I applied through a discussion-based application. My seminar is scheduled for November 10th, and I don't know what to prepare. Any tips?

Since I was a kid, I've wanted to attend St. Johns. The classical curriculum looks amazing and I really like the idea of classes being discussion-centered. I was classically educated and love conversation and diversity of thought and experience. I'm applying to St. Johns today, and it's a strong contender on my college list.
So why am I hesitating? My mother, who has always wanted me to go to St. John's, now worries that it is too "woke", and now my family isn't a fan of the school. To me, this sounds good, as opposed to a conservative Christian school.
For reference, I'm a Christian, but I lean liberal politically (unlike most of my family, where some of my opinions cause arguments). I'm not worried that I would fit in at St. Johns, but I do wonder what it's like to be a Christian on campus. I don't want to go to a college like Hillsdale that claims to encourage diversity but in reality is a conservative monoculture. It's really important to me to listen to everyone's views, and I feel like St. Johns genuinely encourages freedom of thought. My faith is very central to my life, but many of my friends aren't Christian, which has never been a problem. Sometimes we talk about faith because it's an interesting conversation but there's never any arguments or pushing on either side, it just makes the friendship more interesting. I enjoy being around people with different beliefs. It really doesn't matter to me if the majority of campus are not Christians, as long as there is a small group of people where I can find a few friends who are Christians.
Two questions:

1. Are there groups on campus where Christ is being eagerly pursued? Preferably Presbyterian/Baptist, and does anyone know if there is a good evangelical church in the area?
2. I've heard people say that St. Johns is very into partying and drugs; is this true? Or is it just parents overreacting and exaggerating? Half the time I hear someone say a school is problematic, it's just a small group of students partying, which doesn't bother me. That being said, I don't drink (for non-religious reasons, it's anxiety-related), so will I struggle to find friends if I don't? Thank you!

Hi everyone! I’m an international student from a UWC school, and I’m considering applying to St. John’s (likely Early Action) However, I’m a little uncertain about what type of students are typically drawn to the school.

I was recently on a Zoom call with other prospective students, and while I got a good sense of how passionate everyone is about learning, it felt like most of them were really on the “nerdy” side (and also a bit abrasive and 'woke'). I also noticed the majority of them were female, which surprised me a bit - as I thought sjc was like 50% female and 50% male.

I’d love to hear from current students or recent alumni. Are people here really intense about academics? What is the community culture? And whats the party scene like?

Over the summer, I visited the Annapolis campus, and I really did like it, but of course, the school wasn't in session, so I didn't know what to expect.

Any information would be useful!

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TL;DR: I want to go to St. John’s College, but I am unsure if I would like to enter into the Graduate Institute or earn a second bachelors from the Program.

The Short Version

Quick Fun Facts:

• 30 Years Old
• 31 Years Old when Starting St. Johns
• From: Small Town, Louisiana
• Reader-Thinker-Writer-Creator-Innovator-Lover of Learning
• Transitioning from Military to Civilian
• Unorthodox

Non-Academic Background:

• 12 Years United States Air Force, Enlisted
• Senior Non-Commissioned Officer (E-7)
• 2each Coaching Certifications
• 1 Organizational Leadership Certification
• Air Force Master Resilience Trainer
• 9 Years Aircraft Maintenance Experience
• 6+ Years Living in Japan
• 2 Years of Instructor Experience in Military Education
• 6 Months of Innovation Laboratory Experience
• Many Worldwide Travels
• Numerous Leadership and Team Awards

Academic Background:

• Associate of Applied Science in Aircraft Maintenance Technology from the Community College of the Air Force (Fun Fact: USAF’s CCAF is the largest community college in the world.)
• Associate of Arts in General Studies / Psychology from University of Maryland Global Campus
• Bachelor of Arts in English / Minor in Philosophy from University of Maryland Global Campus
  • 4.0 GPA

I am not wanting to enter into the workforce to start yet another career. I am highly interested in stepping into academia. My current academic background is weak in both rigor and in math and science. I wish to earn a PhD in an unknown field later. St. John’s Graduate Institute seems great if I continue into humanities at higher levels. I am unsure if that’s where I want to go. I reckon the Program, while not the conventionally-wise choice, would provide academic challenge but also help me clarify where I want to go in academia in the future—if at all. I want the sciences to still be open to me, for now!

Soundboard: Where shall I go?

PS: I am pretty darn set on wanting to go to St. John’s (:

The Longererer Version

Background:

I joined the United States Air Force at 18 years old. I am 30. I have spent 12 years enlisted and I have no regrets, but I have made the choice to voluntarily separate what most would deem as a rather successful career. But first, who am I? I am from a small southern town in Louisiana that is easily missed on any map. I grew up in a town where everyone knew everyone. I attended the K-12 school. I went to one of the worst high schools in the state of Louisiana, in the not-much-bigger neighboring town, and I had zero aspirations to go to college. The military always fascinated me so I committed and entered into the Air Force. 18 year old me would only bawk at the things I have been able to experience. I was an aircraft mechanic for my first 9 years. I became an instructor of Professional Military Education for 2 years then I moved on to an Innovation Lab for a few months. I am back in my original job of aircraft maintenance but I am now a Senior Non-Commissioned Officer: E-7 (Master Sergeant). I made rank very quickly. I made rank the first time every time and this has been both a blessing and a curse. You see, as you gain more rank, you gain more responsibility. At some point, you stop being a frontline supervisor (and leader), and step into more managerial roles. I am now a mid-tier manager and this will be my career path—would have been my career path—for another 8 years.

It’s an unorthodox approach to separate at 12 years. We can retire with full pension at 20 years of service so after the 10 year mark, what is called “crossing the hump,” it is pretty rare for someone to separate. Even more so for a SNCO to separate. I have been lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time; I got to go on many deployments and exercises to hone my craft and this led to promotions and recognition. I traveled the world and I have had the privilege to see many things. This is the “success” that I was talking about earlier. However, in the last few years of my career, I have been rather unhappy. My days are filled with countless emails, group chats, phone calls and administrative work that zaps my energy. I miss the days where I was actively using my brain, thinking and problem solving to fix fighter aircraft, but those days are long gone. Thus, with no animosity toward the military or my career, I have come to terms that Andre must separate. This isn’t a new chapter of the same book. No, this is a completely separate book, one where I believe St. John’s will be the opening chapters!

I have an Associates of Applied Science in Aircraft Maintenance Technology from the Community College of the Air Force. This isn’t worth much. I have an Associates of Arts in General Studies/Psychology from the University of Maryland Global Campus (UMGC). This is worth more but not by a considerable amount. Finally, I have a Bachelors of Arts in English with a minor in Philosophy from UMGC. This is where the crutch of my choice lies. UMGC, while it’s a great option for non-traditional working students, those wanting to check the box, is not academically rigorous by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, the degree was quite easy; I finished with a 4.0 and while I put in extra effort, because I genuinely enjoyed a bit of the material, there were many times where I wanted more intellectual depth. I wanted more challenge. Like let me read Shakespeare and Milton in more depth and discuss it with some cool people yo!! This is a head nod toward my current administrative work; it lacks meaning and depth.

As I stated previously, I did a 2 year stint as an instructor, where I taught andragogy style i.e., I facilitated discussions not unlike how St. John’s administers their classes. I freaking loved it! It’s been a highlight of my career and I cherish the moments with my students more than they know. I also loved being a student, both when I was in the course myself and a student among my students, as an instructor. It honestly just felt like being in a dope podcast everyday with 14 other people. This is when I knew I should consider a future in academia, or at least start exploring more possibilities in this realm. The first step would be to actually go to college in-person. I have a longing to experience the classroom (and no, not the 100+ person lectures of some institutions.)

My personal framework is to be a scholar, a modern day Renaissance Man-Woman-Person, so to speak. I am not going to be another sausage in the education system, being told what to think and repeating ideas that are not mine, facilitating other people’s work who I may not even agree with or understand. I want to learn how to think. I want to be able to be an independent citizen of the world and organize my thoughts accordingly. I want to be able to communicate them at the highest level that I possibly can. I would love to mentor again, at some point. Perhaps teach as well. Other than the direction of being a lifelong learner and working toward academia, I do not have any concrete goals (okay, a PhD though). My long term goal is to be able to make someone better every day; that falls under many umbrellas.

I am in an exploratory phase. The idea of starting another “career” after leaving a 12 year “successful” career is very uninteresting to me. It’s gross. Sure, it’s a logical choice, given my background, but I have always been a different sort of thinker … so no, I am not interested in starting another career. It feels like stepping off of one treadmill to hop onto another one. Gross.

This is what has drawn me to St. Johns. All of the things I have read, from Reddit, to other forums, have only solidified the notion that St. Johns is a place that I would like to experience and hopefully contribute back to in the long term. Once again, I am a thinker. I am a learner. I am wanting—craving—an education that will be different from the mainstream sausage factories. Let me contradict myself. I said that I have no concrete long term goals, and that is trueish, but I would like to get a PhD and do high-level … yup. Enter: research, consulting, policy, writing, innovation, science, thinking, thought leadership, flipping burgers, non-profit etc. You get it, you get it.

Something to note is that this education, and I am very grateful for this, will be free. If I align my Veteran Benefits correctly, I can get 7 to 8 years of free education. So the cost of institutions are not a huge concern for me. The concern is mostly time and effort. Actually, I dislike viewing it as effort. Time and outcome. I am focused on the outcome of my future education; the effort will be effort no matter what. The outcome is what matters.

Discussion:

The meat and potatoes of why I wanted to post.

I have always loved reading and writing, so I leaned heavily into the humanities, but I am lacking a well-rounded education. My current math and science background is 100-level and even that is being conservative; it’s high school level. I have studied science on my own, but I wish to experience it more. Enter: the Program. My intuition hints to me that even though it may seem like a “step back” to get another bachelors degree, the academic rigor of the Program is exactly what I may need at this point in my life. It’s a step back to make many leaps forward in the future. I know UMGC is not heavily weighted and many credits probably wouldn’t even transfer over to high-level graduate programs. Unless I do an MBA like everyone else, but once again: gross.

Now this is where I want some feedback: my reasoning here is that if I wish to be a true scholar, and to step into academia proper, then enrolling into St. John’s Program would be a good choice. 4 years of a rather rigorous education, honing my thinking and communication, reading the Great Books, among other things, is no easy task and to most people is the unconventional choice. Indeed, most advice, when asking about rather or not to get a second bachelors degree, especially one where you have to complete an entire 4 year stint (again), would be a hard NAY. This in itself, being the unorthodox person that I am, makes me lean toward the Program. I’m a rebel and a risk taker—what can I say! However, I must say that the logical choice, moving toward a Graduate program does weigh on me. The conventional advice, the advice that is influenced by contemporary society, all point in that direction. There must be some truth to it, right? Maybe. Maybe not.

Either way, my current academic background is lacking. If I enroll in the Graduate Institute, I am sure I will learn much and have a positive experience, but I fear that I will be closing many doors to myself. I aspire to get a PhD. It would be wonderful to do high-level academia. I am interested in science, cognitive science, physics, and much more. I would like to keep as many doors open to me as possible and specializing more with a literature graduate degree doesn’t seem to be a wise move from me at this moment. But I am ignorant, perhaps I am not seeing things as clear as could be?

Repeating myself more here, I fear that finishing with the Graduate Institute would lock me in to a path that I am not ready to be locked into just yet. I would like to explore more science, engineering, math, physics, etc., before I lock myself into literature too hard. I obviously don’t know what I want to be an academic specialist in and perhaps I will always want to be a generalist, but I know I at least want to be a generalist right now. I know that I could knock out non-degree seeking credits in math and science, but then I would potentially miss out on the real beauty of a St. John’s education … methinks.

Where shall I go? Edit in new slang: what’s up chat, where should I go for max academic aura in the long term, no cap?

Best Regards,

AF—

PS: If this didn’t make any sense then my apologies. Sometimes I just need to soundboard my thoughts.

St. John's has always been on my radar, as my parents were both johnnies, but I didn't end up applying as a senior in high school because, frankly, I didn't know WHAT I wanted and kind of just applied to a bunch of random East Coast schools. Now I'm a freshman at William & Mary, an objectively good school, and while I don't hate it here, I'm really realizing that what I want is St. John's. So, I'm very strongly considering applying to the January Freshman program. I'm wondering if anybody who's done it in the past few years can give me some insight into what it's like, how difficult it is, if it's very isolating, etc. I haven't been able to find many people's experiences that weren't from like 10 years ago (not that it necessarily has changed, but I would want to know either way!)

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I am in a space where I am preparing for PhD applications this upcoming year. I have heard that some people think this program is helpful in building critical thinking skills which would be helpful for a PhD, but I'm not sure if I necessarily need to go through an MA program to build this. What do you think?

Hello everyone!

This is probably my top college, but I'm nervous to apply early decision because I don't know if my family can take on the financial burden. To make it clear, my family makes around 100k per year. ( Five people household) I know this is actually quite a bit, but a lot of colleges tend to believe that we can pay around 50k, when, in reality, those expenses are used for a plethora of things. Groceries, vet bills, hospital bills, and even physical therapy bills from rear-ending weigh down on us. Can anyone whose family makes a similar amount or is just merely knowledgeable about the topic help me out here?

Also, can anyone be straight up with me? Is this college worth it? Maybe I should make another post but I'm unsure how St. John's College really works. I understand the basics, but if I were to graduate where would I go from there? I'm applying to state schools with a major in anthropology/archaeology. Will this college truly be a good foundation? Seeing the 65% graduation rate is startling to me.

Thank you for your time!

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I'm a Californian going to community college hoping to transfer over to a 4-year institution in the future. Any SJC students who transferred from California (or any out of state transfers) willing to tell me about their experience? I've never lived in the east coast & wondering what it's like for someone from west coast culture acclimating to east coast culture both urban & academic. Where did you transfer from? What were the courses you took (if any) that are required & accepted to transfer? What was your living situation like & how would you consider rent in MD compared to CA? Your experience making friends etc.

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With small private colleges failing in large numbers, what do you think the long term future holds for St. Johns? Having 2 campuses with small enrollment seems to me to be an expensive luxury that could drain their coffers twice as fast during the upcoming demographic cliff.

Also, they seem to be dependent of alumni giving which could make them vulnerable in an extended economic downturn.

I'm a fan of SJC and I think the educational landscape is a better place because it exists. I'm just concerned they're 1 or 2 bad recession/enrollment dips away from closing their doors.

Hello! I am an older individual who is extremely interested in studying at St John's.

I have a general question. Do y'all get much context for the texts from your tutors? Do you get any biographical info on the writers, or discussion of the social and political context in which they created?

I just read Russell's History, and he thinks that a lot of historical context should be provided to understand the ideas of the Western Tradition. Just reading a book like Leviathan without knowing what was going on in England at the time might be challenging.

Just wondering

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A girl I really care about is soon to be a freshman at SJC in Annapolis, she’ll be staying at the dorm and I’d like to send flowers to her. Thing is, I’m not american nor do I know anything about how the mail or delivery system works over there, but I’m told it’s fascinating how good it is. I suppose most of you here do, which is why I’m asking if any of you know how to send her flowers to her dorm so they arrive specifically to her.

The St. John's Reading List looks fabulous!

However, I guess I'm asking if there were any texts, in your opinion, that seemed not worth the struggle to read.

Hello everyone! I am a student at the Annapolis campus and was thinking about transferring to Santa Fe. One of the major questions I have currently is about the residence halls. What does it mean when the dorm hall is called an "apartment?" What is different about this as compared to a normal dormitory? Do the suites have private, shared, or like floor-shared bathrooms? How is the food? Is it hard to get into Santa Fe like downtown? Should I get a car?

This small army of questions should give you an idea about the level of detail I'm concerned with. Thank you in advance for your responses.

Hello, all! I am an older fellow very interested in your school's program. I was looking at your gorgeous reading list, and I wondered: how much of this do the students actually work through? Is it largely excerpts and passages, or is one expected to read an entire treatise for discussion? I would imagine that it varies from student to student. Very interested in your experiences and perspectives.

Thanks!

Hello y'all. I am an older fellow considering St John's. I love to read and write and on occasion debate issues. However, I am unsure about my ability to keep up in technical areas. I recall having a math SAT in the 500 range years ago, and I haven't done any algebra or geometry since. And I have read a decent amount of pop science (and sci fi!), but I was a C student in science back in the day.

Do you think that the math and science required to graduate from St John's is beyond someone like me?

I am also worried about doing Greek, but that's a different subject. Literally!

I got an email this morning saying they're due this week, but no attached link or any other kind of information. I have no other links or information in any of my emails, and the website is very helpful either. Am I missing something? I'm set for Annapolis if that makes a difference.