I mean, there are literally 100 factors that could be delved into, and it will be the same arguments, such as "Oenomaus was hungry and tortured, and fought in the pits of the underworld prior" or "Oenomaus was not fully recovered" or "Gannicus was out of the arena for ages," well, you get the point. In my opinion, it was a clear showcase from the producers to show who is the powerhouse and the strongest of the bunch, that being Spartacus. By looking at the facts, yes, Oenomaus was not at his best, nor was Gannicus as in his days in the Arena, but it does not change the fact that Oenomaus was humbled by the Egyptian, a villain who came out of nowhere and defeated someone as strong as Oenomaus, as well as Gannicus losing the battle until it needed Oenomaus' downfall for Gannicus' rage to take over and fight without thinking, in his fullest form. This is what it needed for Gannicus to defeat him, and that only after Oenomaus injured him in his stomach. I am sure a Gannicus full-fledged would defeat the Egyptian, but still, the fact stands on its own.

Gannicus in his fight with Spartacus was kind of even, but there is an important fact people like to miss out on. Gannicus was provoked by Spartacus in him saying "Loyalty seems a quality you are unfamiliar with," hitting Gannicus with his past and his betrayal with Melita, etc., and Gannicus raging. Spartacus, on the other hand, fought calmly and not out of anger, and he was able to keep Gannicus at bay. Gannicus had a reason to go 100%, but Spartacus did not, as he saw a potential ally in Gannicus and knew he had the mark as they all had. This is just my take, of course, opinions differ.

Crixus? Not much to talk about. The dude was not in his best form, obviously, but there's no chance he beats the Egyptian in ANY given scenario, in my humble opinion. He was bodied within literal seconds and was about to be no-diffed. However, one could argue that Crixus was never himself again after S01, or rather, after the Theokoles fight. Take it as you will.

Spartacus? First of all, Spartacus had a disadvantage to begin with. He was only using 1 sword versus the Egyptian's 2 daggers. Who knows if Spartacus ever fought anyone with 2 daggers before; however, one could argue this for every fighter who had to face him, so that is that. He straight up defeated him with precision and skill, that is all, and would have killed him if not for the Army, or rather, the Plot.

What is your opinion on all of this?

What tropes is Gannicus?

What type of guys do you think Spartacus, Gannicus and Crixus would be in the modern world?

Hi guys, I am graduating college and I want to decorate my cap with a Gannicus quote, any suggestions on what to use quote wise

There are so many possibilities. You could bring back Agron and Nasir. Imagine this. Agrons last words to Caesar were “I shall yet have your fucking head. Caesar is the one that got the ball rolling on a lot of bad for the rebels. Now think Agron wants revenge. He schemes to blend into Rome and try to get to Caesar. He inadvertently stumbles upon the Senators plot to kill Caesar. So on that day he dresses up, goes to the ambush and blends in with the chaos. Plunging a dagger into Caesar as Caesar looks at him in disbelief.

This could work!

I'm in the middle of a SLOW rewatch of Blood and Sand for the first time in over 10 years and I'm loving every second of it. My original plans were to finish the rewatch with Gods of the Arena and call it quits.

Liam McIntyre did a pretty good job of stepping into Spartacus' shoes, but nobody could truly replace Andy Whitfield. Whitfield was the definitive Spartacus and the same magic just didn't completely carry over from season 1 and GOTA. Another reason was the palpable absence of Quintus Batiatus because he's...well, dead. That guy just brought so much presence and so many memorable quotes to the show, it's impossible to not feel that absence. Because of this, I was planning to stop my rewatch after GOTA.

But now we're getting House of Ashur dropped on us. I don't remember Vengeance at all since I only watched it once about 12 years ago, and the outcome of the final episode is going to be different in HoA. I've been reading through the episode summaries on Wikipedia to refresh myself and I found this little gem from episode 9:

"Ashur reveals to Lucretia that as well as freedom, Glaber will give Ashur the ludus and his blessing of marriage with Lucretia if Spartacus falls in the upcoming battle."

So there we have the foundation of HoA! Spartacus doesn't die on Mt. Vesuvius of course, so Ashur must either win (or survive) the fight with Naevia or avoid it altogether. Perhaps also ensure Glaber's death in order to seize the former House of Batiatus.

Anyway, I'm starting to ask myself if I should do an unplanned rewatch of season 2 just to experience the background for HoA, despite the aforementioned missing magic. Kinda on the fence about it.

Anyone else notice that after the fight with Theokolese, Batiatus no longer refers to Crixus as "the Undefeated Gaul"? Because technically, yes, he was defeated. Which makes it all the more heartwarming that when Spartacus is paying tribute to the fallen Crixus, he once again names him the Undefeated Gaul.

Rewatching for the 100th time and I just happened to notice they introduced him as the "savage Gaul" when he was selected to fight Spartacus, which led me to this revelation.

Imagine this.

You're a lowly roman citizen, of no nobility of any kind, minding your own business in your small town some distance from Rome with the ongoing rebellion you keep hearing about elsewhere in the Republic. Suddenly you hear some commotion near the front gate, and minutes later, thousands upon thousands of rebels are brutally murdering your entire city.

There's lots of great battles and brutal moments throughout the show, that's kindof it's shtick in a way, and we all love it. But I truly think this is the most aggressively destructive and brutal sequence in the entire series by far. The rebellion had grown so big that Spartacus is bothered momentarily by the death of the young girl, to whom he says "You stay close to your mother" earlier in the evening, fully knowing what's coming later that night. He realizes in the moment of discovering the mom and daughter's corpses that the rebellion had seemingly unstoppable momentum, and that there were unfortuante casualties of war.

Mine has to the GOTA finale with the circle of fire, absolute chaos and it never gets old imo

I wanna hear your guys takes? Any fight applies

With Oenomaus as Doctore

The violence is barbaric and honestly doesnt compliment the story in any way. Gladiator does a good medium of violence and story wheras Spartacus feels like it was written by a 14 year old who just discovered BestGore.

Next, the nudity and sex is just so over the too. Just because you're able to go balls to the wall with it doesn't mean you should. You could easily just pan to a different area when two characters are fucking but it's just way too vulgar.

The dialogue itself is cringey. The swearing is too much. Nothing feels sophisticated at all. Its all barbaric primal bloodshed, which...idk doesnt feel right for Gladiators.

So yea. Not at all like I remember.

Hello I know that Starz did that auction years ago and was just wondering if anyone knew of any Gannicus swords that anyone may be selling?

I went through every Spartacus/Spartacus: Gods of war episode that had significant nudity in it. Then, I went to the IMDB parents guide for each episode and put timestamps for specific scenes so “parents” could avoid watching it😉 thank me later

So from what I've seen, everyone here is in agreement that even if Crixus had not broken off from Spartacus, that Spartacus still would not have stood a chance against Rome once Pompey returned.

However, historicaly around this time period, was there another country/nation that was an opposing force/enemy to Rome that would've been likely to take up arms with Spartacus' rebel army and stood toe to toe against Pompey and Crassus to take down Rome?

I don't know much about this time period (nor how slaves were viewed outside Rome), but I am curious. Obviously communication to an outside force that was an opposing enemy to Rome would've been difficult for Spartacus, but it is interesting to think about (plus would've made a good spin off show).

Basically the same premise as S1/GoTA. Extreme violence, graphic nudity, all centered around brutal fights to the death.

So, let's start by listing all the feats of the champions:

Oenomaus: What feats does he have? Only where he is the sole survivor of Theokoles in a 1vs1 in the Arena. However, Thekoles could have ended this man whenever he wanted during their fight. Even Oenomaus was shocked by how strong Theokoles is. Aside from this, he beat a prime and 20% capacity Spartacus in their sparring bout, which does not tell us much. It only confirms that he is the doctore, which is no surprise. Afterwards, he has no feats to prove his superiority against anyone. He got wrecked by the Egyptian, despite his injuries. However, the same argument could be made with Spartacus. He was half-dead and still beat Crassus and 10x of his men. Lastly, Oenomaus was able to get Gannicus on the ground handcuffed, which was a rage Oenomaus, not entirely focusing on skill, but it is still a fact.

Crixus: He rose to champion status and earned his place rightfully. He beat the Tschakal brothers, which we only know of by tale, so we cannot gauge their strength and relevance in this debate. After, he beat Spartacus in the Arena, which was a 10% Spartacus versus Spartacus prime, just for reference. During the Theokoles fight, it was clearly shown how far below Theokoles a PRIME Crixus actually was, and he got absolutely demolished by him. Hell, Theokoles was not even a skillful fighter, just durable and a tank above human comprehension, hence why he was able to do what he did, wrecking Crixus clearly shown during their fight. After BOS, he was never the same again, nor did he ever reach his prime. All his wins, in contrast against the other champions, are demolished by the fact that he lost a 1vs1 against Spartacus clearly. He even took Spartacus by SURPRISE during the last season, and prior, he lost to Gannicus in Sinuessa and had to be saved by Naevia, or he would be choked to death. That is evident. Against the Egyptian, Crixus loses each and every single time. Their single fight showed enough.

Gannicus: Well, Gannicus has some feats he can be proud of, literally. First off, he was already shown as a champion when the series began, straight up being a menace, a true force to be reckoned with. He fought a man in the Arena with bare hands and overthrew someone with a sword and shield. Though he was a very low-class gladiator, it's still worth mentioning. After, he fought a man blindfolded and was able to win. I doubt Oenomaus or Crixus would have been able to do this. In my opinion, only Spartacus would have been able to accomplish the same performance in the same circumstances. Gannicus fought a battle royale and emerged as victor. He beat Caburus, a literal watered-down version of Theokoles, in a full-fledged combat setting in the Arena in the end. Yes, Crixus and he fought together against him for a short while, but both Caburus and Gannicus were wounded and exhausted, making it even. Given Caburus' size, well, yeah, I think you get the point. He fought Spartacus and was able to go toe-to-toe with him in the same style. He beat Caesar every single time they fought. He killed the Egyptian once he was in rage mode. He is far superior to the Egyptian when he fights seriously, in my humble opinion. After, he beat Crixus in a fair fight and easily won it. He would have killed him on the spot.

Spartacus: Where to begin? He survived an execution in the arena, being nowhere NEAR his current power levels. Then, he was able to survive the pits of the underworld. Current Spartacus would DEMOLISH all fighters down there at once and ask for more, laughing my [expletive] off. He beat Crixus in the test, though with a trick, he still did. He was able to hold his ground alone against Thekoles for a while. He would have never won alone that time, obviously, but still needed to be mentioned, or worthy. After the Theokoles fight, the bringer of Rain NEVER lost a fight in his life ever again. BOS ending Spartacus was already at his peak. He would have demolished the champion of Pompei where Crixus struggled. Spartacus in vengeance easily beat the Egyptian, in difficult circumstances, and hungry on that mountain + exhausted. That aside, Spartacus did not encounter someone with his fighting style until then, and was at a disadvantage. He only had one sword and still DESTROYED the Egyptian in 2 seconds. A clear evidence to show the difference in power in comparison to the others. Half DEAD Spartacus beat 10x of Crassus' men and destroyed the man himself. He was stabbed by Caesar in the back and still was able to destroy the Romans in Sinuessa on the spot. He folded Crixus in their fight, where Crixus even had gotten him by SURPRISE with that POD he hit him in the face with. During their run in the forest in Vengeance in the first few episodes, Spartacus fought and destroyed the Roman soldiers. Even Ashur, who first thought they outnumbered them, was scared and retreated to not die, laughing my [expletive] off.

Conclusion: Gannicus himself has stated they MAY be equal with two swords, which does mean they are, but that Spartacus is superior with other weaponry, which is surely allowed in the Arena or outside in a 1vs1. Spartacus is the more superior fighter in my opinion. Against Oenomaus, I think he surpassed his Doctore after the first season, and WOTD Sparti absolutely smoked Oenomaus in the Arena, given their contrast and comparison against the Egyptian, and simply their feats in the arena and outside. Crixus? Any of the above smoke him EACH and EVERY TIME, prime Crixus or not, he ain't the undefeated Gaul no longer in my humble opinion. Spartacus absolutely destroys Theokoles in the Arena, WOTD Spartacus. Though it will be a tough battle, and there is the chance Spartacus, of course, gets killed too, but I give him the upper hand.

Spartacus himself was one selfish person. He would sacrifice anyone and anything for his own selfish purpose. Having watched the show again for the third time, he’s definitely one of the least likable characters.

I love this show so much, truly a great show and very underrated.

I realize it's comic booky and all but the one thing I absolutely did not buy in any shape or form, was Naevia going from timid slave to angry super-warrior.

Someone who spends their whole life living a timid, non-violent life like her does not have the abililty to all of a sudden not be afraid to get out and swing a sword around other people who have been trained, simply because she had a few months of training. It's not just the skill set but the natural personality.

Think of any female you know who is someone who is not "street-wise" say, maybe quiet or a church going or does not like watching any kind of violence on TV, a girly girl. Now imagine if this person could end up being a super tough biker chick who beats up people?

Would not happen.

I do not buy her transformation in any way.

Just my opinion.

Just a heads up for anyone who wants to watch it and have a gigantic cry, it's currently on YouTube with Turkish subtitles.

I rewatched the show plenty of times, the first rewatch I was in my head yelling warnings in Blood and Sands episode 1, that Spartacus should not trust Glaber.

But now during my rewatch, it changed. Yes I ofc feel so much for Spartacus and all he lost, but he ended up changing history quite a bit with his Rebellion, his name is written in Stone

So its like, if Glaber would have been turned away from Spartacus and his people, and tried to go manipulate other tribes, there would be no Spartacus show

But like the rebellion is all strengthened by the anger from the Pain and Loss they all experienced

So idk, how do yall react in the first Episode?