I was working a booth at the Oklahoma State Fair and the tax enforcement officer for the state came by to see if we had or sales tax information. I was working with a buddy, and he started to get out the paperwork. I stopped him, and told the tax guy with a straight face, “I’m a sovereign citizen, we’re exempt from taxes.” He about crapped his pants he laughed so hard. He came back on a different day just to check out or booth, and was still smiling.

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sovereign citizen shit absolutely rots my brain. it’s one of the most bizarre false belief systems that people will build and burn their houses upon its wretched hill because they believe with their whole chest that their versions of the law are the true laws and i’m just. i’m so ????

if your clown laws really were the true laws then why do they never work????????????

i stg i watch videos of these folks yelling their nonsense as they’re getting arrested and they’re still sooooo convinced they’re right about the law i just 🤡

“i don’t need a license to travel” <- has this ever worked? has it literally ever fucking worked?? HAS IT WORKED EVEN ONCE?????? why do they keep saying it?? why do they think it’s true? why do they keep encouraging others to use this line??? thinking about these people is going to give me an aneurysm

I've seen some videos with them driving some fairly expensive vehicles.

I can't help but wonder what Sovereign citizens do for work in order to afford them.

I'm just curious - when did this nonsense become part of the rhetoric of the sovcits?

Link to comment:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sovereigncitizen/s/Ic4BFIXLUx

the got stopped at a border patrol checkpoint. refused to answer the question are you a us citizen and started screaming about their righs and calling he BP agent a bitch.
they end up in handcuffs

https://x.com/StrictlyChristo/status/1788374493129482512

Ok, hear me out. Why is it that all these "constitutional scholars" are completely ignorant of the 10th amendment?

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people

This jurisdiction argument made by "constitutional scholars" alone goes against the US constitution. The argument itself attempts to invalidate the constitutionally guaranteed right to govern themselves.

I mean, have they ever sat down and thought about why it's called "THE UNITED STATES"? It almost sounds as if there are a bunch of sovereign states that decide to unite under a larger federal umbrella to ensure free passage, free trade, the sharing of wealth, and a collective defense force.

"I operate under common law jurisdiction..." Have to cut you off right there, buddy, because every state except for Louisiana uses common law. Every case argued in court relies on case law, and every argument made states case law, and explains how that specific case applies to the situation in front of the court.

Common law IS NOT some hidden authority that you decide to be under the jurisdiction of, the jurisdiction YOU ARE IN uses common law, therefore is a common law jurisdiction. You can argue maritime law all you want, to which I say "read the 10th amendment"

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/A4v6bA4Ene

Sorry for the bad picture- I was caught off guard. Is this a sovcit license plate? If you look carefully, the bottom says "National Citizen." First one I've seen in CT.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fblue-ink-4-v0-zqp0bm1th9zc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da97280e20b42d0d6f6563cf6913e168f9b81c178

Back again. I have a feeling he's gonna be a regular. This time it's to the city's CFO...... I'm sure they'll get right on whatever he's demanding of them.😂🤣😂🤣🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

So, in order to ensure citizens understand their full rights when being arrested, the courts came up with the Miranda Rights set of statements that are read or memorized by officers. To cut through all the BS arguments at traffic stops with SovCits, there should be a similar set of statements that can be read/memorized. It could drastically shorten these types of stops. Here’s my suggestions, but please add/edit.

1. You have a right to travel, but doing it in a motor vehicle on public roads is a privilege and the government regulates that. In this case the Federal Government has given that authority to the State of _____.

2. You are operating a motor vehicle in this state on a public roadway and it doesn’t matter if you say you were traveling versus driving. You are behind the wheel when the vehicle was stopped so you are operating.

3. This is a civil infraction/traffic violation. I will not be debating The Constitution, Supreme Court Cases, or maritime law with you. You will have the opportunity to argue those points in court.

4. I will also not be reading any paperwork other than what was given to you by the State. Those can also be given to a judge for review.

5. A supervisor will only be called if I deem it necessary, not because you demand it.

6. You will be asked three times for identification, registration, and proof of insurance. Failure to comply after the third request will result in you being forcibly removed from the vehicle and arrested. Your vehicle will also be impounded.

And ???

UPDATE: Thanks for all the comments. I was not trying to say that these words would have the same legal standing as Miranda Rights. Only that a set script for officers might shorten these long roadside stops that pretty much end the same way anyway. Hopefully this would save time.

Also, the fact that your average officer does not come into regular contact with a SocCit is all the more reason to have a script and/or training. It’s obvious most have no idea what to do.

But just MHO.

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I mean, there's got to be a bunch out there, right?

Obviously a bunch of SovCits are actual conspiracy theorists that studied and misunderstood the law, and are genuinely arguing from that place of misunderstanding. Those are the Dunning-Kruger SovCits, nothing to be done about those.

But there's also a lot of other SovCits that have no idea what they're talking about, stumble through trying to read a script, clearly have no understanding of what the words mean, and are just repeating stuff that they've read online (or in the worst cases, paid somebody else to send them). But for those people to attempt this (or worse, pay somebody for this), you'd think that they must have positive examples that they're copying. Some videos of people making SovCit arguments in court, and having the judge say "Oh, you're right, case dimissed". Or videos of people getting pulled over by the cops, saying "I have a right to travel" and show the cops saying "Oh, my bad, please continue". Where are all these videos of SovCit wins, that are convincing the idiots that they should follow this SovCit doctrine so that they can get similar wins? All I keep seeing are loss after loss...

I mean, those wins have to exist, right? Because if they don't, then the entire SovCit movement is just a giant sham and the followers in it are following purely out of desperate hope that they know more magic words than the court (spoiler: they don't), even though they have no proof that any of their arguments have ever, or will ever, work...

(Wrote this while watching the latest Team Skeptic SovCit takedown... I was really impressed with that judge actually listening to, taking notes on, researching, and then thoroughly dismantling his argument instead of just dismissing it out of hand like most judges in that position do. I guess it was her first one, maybe?)

Where is this movement coming from? There must be some person, government or organization behind its spread.

They've stolen the language of Natural Rights turned into something comedic.

I've quoted The Constitution, and the Declaratio of Independance to people, and been accused of being a sovcit because of it.

They took Natural Rights, added a bunch of weird shit to it. Created some ridiculous shit that doesn't even deserve to be called a conspiracy theory.

Am I an idiot, I think I might understand why sovcits do it? There are people in the southern states who celebrate defeat. The Alamo, confederate, I saw someone with a horse tire cover on the spare, not a running horse but a kicking horse. They aren't trying to be something, they're proud of saying "no" to every suggestion and being the victim. Perhaps their aim is to be locked in jail so they can tell people how unfair everything is and what a hard time they have. Amirite?