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Would a sociopath say: "I can hide the fact that I am a sociopath but I just don't give a dam."
How does everyone react to death of pets normally I’m disassociated with most things since I don’t care for it. But for some reason the death of my pet was different. Has anyone been through something similar with overwhelming emotions.
Do any of y'all have a moral code or framework you follow that would conventionally label you as a good person?
To make a long topic short, I'm generally percieved as a "good person" because I follow a strict set of rules on how I should act. I don't care about other people and have no connection/obligation to them/how they feel beyond how it affects me, I just have a moral framework that I stick to very rigidly. It was confusing to realise that some people actually want to or even enjoy helping others, as opposed to just doing it because that's what they should do.
The thing is, despite realising this, I still feel compelled to follow the moral code. I bargain with it, I find loopholes, I manipulate other people into breaking it so I can justify retaliation etc. Even when I accidentally break the code it's just "Oh, oopsies." And I move on without a worry. But I can never bring myself to intentionally break it. I don't want to break it.
Not because of any sense of guilt or shame or whatever, it's just stuck in my brain as the "correct" way to do things. Can any of you relate to this or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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I am not a sociopath, at least i don't think, but i've always wondered if sociopaths are proud of their disorder? My friend is diagnosed with ASPD, and she wears it like a badge of honor, she even hinted that i might be one, is that because she doesn't want to be alone in her disorder, or is it just a manipulation tactic?
Dear ASPD women of reddit, i have a question.
For the past year or so I’ve been noticing the lack of emotions, emotional connection with others and a LOT of anger.
For the past almost 2 years I’ve been trying to figure out by myself what is happening to me, because I can’t force myself to find a therapist. For the longest time I thought I could have BPD, but that fell off. Once BPD fell off, I started educating myself about personality disorders and ASPD seemed the most reasonable and the more I dig into it, the more I feel like I could possibly have ASPD. But i am not here to self-diagnose.
One of the most noticeable things is the lack of empathy towards others. The thing is, I understand the emotions people feel and if they’re hurt, but I don’t feel them and I don’t honestly care. I tend to explode really really fast, especially if they make the tiniest mistake, because the tiny mistakes make me just go BOOM, but more serious mistakes? Nothing. I also know I am manipulative, got that told since the age of 13. And much more.. And I am turning 19 in a month, so I guess I am at the peak age?
So, the question is, how did you realise you could have ASPD? - Did you realise it by yourself, just watching how you react/act/feel or did somebody else have to force you into getting the diagnosis? If you realised it by yourself, how? What were the main things you noticed?
Like 1 day a man spends the night with girlfriend A then the next girlfriend B. He makes it seem like the woman is the only woman they are with. He has no problem lying and does it confidently.
Has anybody ever taken big game like deer? I was dxm diagnosed in a hospital with aspd in 2012. I was somewhat cruel to animals as a child and killed things like birds with pellet guns as a kid and did some other things as a kid I won’t discuss here. I am now 37 and love animals and have a pet cat. I killed my first deer yesterday. I have mixed Emotions about it. I killed a momma doe that had her fawn with her. Even though this time of year the fawn can survive on her own and it was legal the experience didn’t quite sit right with me. I told myself hunting is a right of passage and humans have killed animals for meat for most of history. Only the past 150 years have we been so disconnected from our source of flesh as the killing is outsourced for us so we don’t have to experience taking a life. I did everything right and gave the animal a clean ethical kill, said a prayer of thanks over the animal and plan to use all the meat. I wanted to prove to myself I could do this if I ever need to provide for myself If society collapses. But I truly feel I would have been less remorseful about a humans life. It was a very intimate, spiritually, and humbling experience.
One thing to note is everybody says they shake like hell before and after the shot and I did not. I was calm as a cucumber. You could argue that this makes me a natural hunter because I’m more likely to place an ethical shot because I don’t get too nervous.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
As a sociopath How common do you think it is for gang members who make there livin off crimes is likely to be a sociopath, sry for my poor english but yall understand What i mean
We do, or don't do; because why the hell not, or why the hell. Any 'responsibilities' forced on us are simply being fulfilled because there's no one else who can take the role.
What else are we supposed to do, really? We play by this worlds BS rules just to keep our heads on our shoulders. Pretend to give af about our work and responsibilities as if they hold some higher value I-we just can't seem to get.
I look around myself and see a reality that could have been avoided, and no shit not by MY choices. I'm talking about whatever 'superior being' thought THIS (look around you) would be a good idea. If their was TRULY a point to life itself, why can't I see it? The only thing I see is: calamity, climax, and conflict. You know, if everyone just decided to hang on a noose, we would have secured WORLD-PEACE for everyone for generations! BUT INSTEAD, THESE IDIOTS PRETEND AND TALK ABOUT SECURING PEACE FOR A COUNTRY LIKE IT'S THE GOLDEN DREAM. Why all the BS, is it simply to give the fools something to live for? Don't answer that, I'm sure that's exactly right.
I'll stfu now.
I've always had no middle ground with anger if someone is making me angry I'm either completely silent or I'm beating the shit out of them. There's no in-between like arguing or shouting just silent or violence. So I'm wondering if anyone else is the same
Hi, i find a sense of ease and comfort when I’m around other sociopaths ie. Friends, family. And i especially enjoy movies about them, the thinking and decision making amazes me, because usually the thinking and decision making of others baffles me. Am i alone with this? Or does anyone here to the same or similar?
I'm really interested in ASPD (I don't have it) so I did some research but I couldn't seem to find an answer to one question. Do they get panic attacks? I only found out that they do experience anxiety and get nervous, but does that include panic attacks, and if yes, do they experience it differently? Sorry if this is a stupid question I'm just corious.
Anyone else use drugs to manage their tendencies and keep themselves in check, or ease the boredom? I’ve been using speed quite a lot over the past two or so years to manage my behaviour and it’s been very effective in helping me ‘keep under the radar’ so far when it comes to everyday living. It’s helped me go from dealing drugs on a fairly large scale to working a fully legal, well-paying job and keeping out of trouble (for the most part), along with lessening the boredom that was previously an enormous issue for me. Wondering if others on here have similar experiences to me when it comes to drugs.
So, if you're a sociopath, how do you see your children? Do you see them as a pain in the ass all the time?
Im not political but I found a simple political left-right spectrum test and for fun had friends and family take it, and i scored slightly left. One of my friends found it funny that a sociopath wouldnt be a more conservative leaning. It got me wondering what way other sociopaths may lean. And if you have any ASPD relatives id be curious as well.
I’m curious, what would you be able to handle? And would/do you feel anything bad about it or because of it? I don’t know if sociopaths have a higher tolerance to morbid things in general at all, so this might be a useless question. I’m into some pretty morbid stuff myself, so that sparked the idea.
Another thing I thought of is does anyone have an active imagination, morbid or not, and do you like to twist something innocent into something more dark?
If a Sociopath wants to keep you around their finger do they use threatening mixed with love bombing every now and then? And why is that?
I guess what I’m wondering is how you guys keep yourself from creating “chaos” and being destructive. Nothing feels fulfilling and it’s like I have an itch that is just SCREAMING to be itched. How do you convince yourself living a life in peace is ultimately the best option?
Three times in my life I've had to deal with jealous female managers.
Once when I was a teenager -- the female assistant I was working under was jealous of me for being smarter than her. She didn't graduate high school. I'm not condescending and didn't judge because people go through many hardships. Well, she had it out for me. She did everything to make me look bad and got me fired.
I had one where the female manager was jealous of me because I was thin and good looking. This woman started looking for anything she could find, all she was able to find was trivial things, so she made up my colleagues had made complaints about me that they never did. Here I was living my best life and here she was obsessively having it out for me.
I ended up not risking another situation where I could get fired and just quit then and there. I could have reported her lies to HR, the board and left a bad Glassdoor review, but didn't.
I had a recent female manager who I had to report for harassment (I work from home too!). HR sided with me and made her stop (maybe they were scared I would file a harassment lawsuit).
I've accepted that jealousy comes with the territory of being good-looking and likable. I'm staying away from female managers and just people who are removed from me.
But how do I deal with it? How can I control it?
I'm curious to know if any partner of yours has romanticized/idealized your disorder?
It seems that a partner seeing you for who you really are (referring to the "ugly" part of the disorder) and losing interest is something common for us cluster Bs. But I was wondering if the opposite ever happened to you, whether because something made them attracted to your toxicity regardless, or because they believed that they were in a relationship out of a dark romance book and in reality things were unhealthy as hell?
It's not that I don't say sorry. If I know saying sorry will yield the better outcome, then I will say sorry. I won't really mean it.
It feels so fake to say it, a lot of the time. It makes me paranoid that someone would pick up on how fake it sounds.
I sometimes wonder if I have aspd because I lack a lot of empathy when my friends are going through something but I still desire to be liked by my friends so I pretend to care/ask about it and it leaves me mentally exhausted when I force myself to.
I have some friends who I consider fake and I have real friends. Do people with ASPD like certain people more than others or is everyone the same to them?
For me it was when I was about 8-9 years old. I started gradually becoming more sociopathic. Now I'm in middle school and the teachers have noticed I show alot of sociopathic behaviors. Like being violent, refusing to take responsibility, lying/gaslighting constantly, and being impulsive. They have offered me therapy but I don't think it would work that much. Still accepted the offer though to fix myself before I become an full blown sociopath.
Hey guys I tend to gaslight, decieve, lie and cause fights between others just to get what I want. Usually that's stuff like free drinks, food, dorgs, s3cs, etc. I've lived a parasitic lifestyle for as long as I remember and I genuinely am not even aware of when I'm doing this, although yes i do all this intentionally.. If my deception is compromised then I fly into rages and do really stupid things, harmful things, like physical fights, running away. Breaking shit. I'm really lonely because I only get discarded if it's too bad, or I discard before I'm found out And my family gets the brunt of it They're innocent and have no idea I'm like this although off late I've been telling them and I think it takes a toll on them What do I do?
All I see are Emo wannabe Sociopaths. I may be wrong, but i doubt it.
A lot of cluster b people report having their diagnosis used as a way for their abusers to avoid accountability. Has this happened to you?
Especially with ASPD (and NPD), i've seen people be abused and subsequently made out to be the abuser because they have a stigmatised disorder. People will be quick to side against a stigmatised disorder, and they'll struggle to deconstruct their cognitive distortions (that "this disorder makes you a bad person") in order the support the victim. Another version i've seen is the intentional***** triggering of ASPD just to get a situation they can play victim in.
I've also struggles with this, where people (usually those with anxious attachments who create a hyper-idealised version of me and don't know/dislike who I actually am) will learn about my ASPD (and HPD) and intentionally trigger me so they can paint me as abusive.
*****Mind you in these situations I speak of the intentional, purposeful triggering of mental illness. In my situations I have calmly set a boundary beforehand, and reminded someone of the boundary while they are actively breaking it. I do not mean a misunderstanding.
I have set up a poll so everyone can look at a glance to see if this situation is common or not.
Does anyone else feel disgusted when someone around them cries, especially over something so minor? It really annoys me when they look up at you with that wounded, helpless expression like a small animal, as if begging for attention. What’s worse is when people spend ages comforting them, yet they still keep crying with that same expression.
I’ve noticed how some people make a huge fuss over the smallest things, especially in public. It irritates me when they break down at an event just because someone was a little rude. Watching others rush to comfort them for hours while they wallow in their misery, acting like their boss yelling at them is the end of the world, ruins the whole mood. It feels like they’re just craving attention.
The whole trend of trauma dumping is even worse. Them comforting each other for hours over things only a child would cry about feels pathetic. It’s as if they think the world revolves around them, especially when they ruin parties by dragging everyone into their drama. I’m here to have fun, not deal with you acting like you’re having a seizure over something so minor.
For example, one girl talks about her mom being upset with her for being lazy (she isn't crying just talking about it), and another girl convinces her it's a bigger deal than it is and her mom is somehow abusive, making her cry. Suddenly, everyone has to comfort her, and the whole party is ruined. It’s frustrating when minor inconveniences are blown out of proportion, and others make it seem like a much bigger issue than it really is.
Individuals with ASPD tend to lack emotion and empathy that is different in the “social standard” but they still have emotions at the end of the day. I’m curious on how some that has been diagnosed with it feels/deals with depression or if it’s something that usually one doesn’t feel often.
does anybody else have this need to control all those around them and do you also get really annoyed when they dont behave in the manner you want them to. another thing id like to add is my recent obsession with cults and cult leaders. while disgusted by their actions of torturing people and such, im so impressed by the way they manipulate those around them and are able to have complete control over their every move. words cannot describe how impressed i am with their skills and ability. for example the case of larry ray, (here's the link for those who aren't familiar with this https://www.thecut.com/article/larry-ray-sarah-lawrence-students.html ) . while disgusted with how ray treated the members of his cult, i was impressed by his ability to charm those around him and be able to manipulate his way out of any situation to achieve his desired outcome. recently I've developed bit of an obsession with this, wanting to be exactly like them and have the same level of these skills and abilities to twist any situation to my advantage.
Hello all. Lurking adhd, aspd here. 30m. I have managed to keep myself in check, and live normally for roughly five years via smoking cannabis most days. I’ve quit a few times for 1+ months but have generally been a heavy user. Prior to this I smoked and used other drugs, heavily, and spent lots of time incarcerated. I have a partner, a son and a business. I’ve built all this high as fuck essentially just doing the next logical thing. It’s cool. Me and my son have a good relationship but I fear he’s like me. Me and my partner have a strained and unemotional relationship, but it works and keeps things progressing status quo. This has kept me straight, too stoned to run a fuckin drug ring and rake it in, and out of prison. Problem is I think I’ve maxed out stoned potential. To make more money, I’ll need to be sober. When I am sober and operating fully things get out of hand fast. I have no friends for a reason, and family that “likes me better when I’m high”. What do I do? I see myself in my son and a chance for something different for him. I’m not sure I can parent properly sober. Looking to discuss and get relative info/feedback, not argue. UPDATE!: I’ve begun the process of getting help and treatment. First thing doc did was give me a med card so I don’t get in trouble (no rec in my state), confirmed diagnosis ADHD+ASPD, current plan is to meet with both a therapist a the psychiatrist separately, once a week for a month before any prescriptions. Everyone’s replies were great, it is truly a risk/reward and I’m gonna take the risk, but slowly and with help. THANKS!! 🙏