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I've always had no middle ground with anger if someone is making me angry I'm either completely silent or I'm beating the shit out of them. There's no in-between like arguing or shouting just silent or violence. So I'm wondering if anyone else is the same
I know the obvious answer to this is yes, but the question I’m asking is a little bit deeper. Could a full blown sociopath be good enough at “what they do” to fool themselves into believing that they aren’t one? And yea, I’m talking about myself. From what I can tell everything I do and say is representative of what would be called a sociopath. For example, I’ve never understood the idea of comforting someone in a time of need. I feel that there’s truly nothing I can do for someone when they feel sad or anxious. And I only bring it up because I feel like I should. I’ve been told I’m good with advice, ironically enough. I’d rather just sit in silence by myself. I can say what they want to hear, and they can act like it helps, but nothing changes in the end. And I feel the same way when people are trying to do that for me. Nothing changes. I feel like I care about people, but when they leave I just replace them with someone or something else and I feel fine. Am I an asshole, or am I just surrounding myself with the wrong people? I can’t tell if what I feel for my social circle is true friendship, or an obsession with validation. if I’m wrong, I’m sorry, I don’t mean to downplay this condition, but I’m not going on pills for the wrong reason and I’d like to hear from someone with real experience…
This is question only to those who realize that sociopathy is a personality type which has both positive and negative sides. Try answering it with vulnerability instead of narcissism if you can.
Hi, i find a sense of ease and comfort when I’m around other sociopaths ie. Friends, family. And i especially enjoy movies about them, the thinking and decision making amazes me, because usually the thinking and decision making of others baffles me. Am i alone with this? Or does anyone here to the same or similar?
I'm really interested in ASPD (I don't have it) so I did some research but I couldn't seem to find an answer to one question. Do they get panic attacks? I only found out that they do experience anxiety and get nervous, but does that include panic attacks, and if yes, do they experience it differently? Sorry if this is a stupid question I'm just corious.
Anyone else use drugs to manage their tendencies and keep themselves in check, or ease the boredom? I’ve been using speed quite a lot over the past two or so years to manage my behaviour and it’s been very effective in helping me ‘keep under the radar’ so far when it comes to everyday living. It’s helped me go from dealing drugs on a fairly large scale to working a fully legal, well-paying job and keeping out of trouble (for the most part), along with lessening the boredom that was previously an enormous issue for me. Wondering if others on here have similar experiences to me when it comes to drugs.
So, if you're a sociopath, how do you see your children? Do you see them as a pain in the ass all the time?
Im not political but I found a simple political left-right spectrum test and for fun had friends and family take it, and i scored slightly left. One of my friends found it funny that a sociopath wouldnt be a more conservative leaning. It got me wondering what way other sociopaths may lean. And if you have any ASPD relatives id be curious as well.
I’m curious, what would you be able to handle? And would/do you feel anything bad about it or because of it? I don’t know if sociopaths have a higher tolerance to morbid things in general at all, so this might be a useless question. I’m into some pretty morbid stuff myself, so that sparked the idea.
Another thing I thought of is does anyone have an active imagination, morbid or not, and do you like to twist something innocent into something more dark?
If a Sociopath wants to keep you around their finger do they use threatening mixed with love bombing every now and then? And why is that?
I guess what I’m wondering is how you guys keep yourself from creating “chaos” and being destructive. Nothing feels fulfilling and it’s like I have an itch that is just SCREAMING to be itched. How do you convince yourself living a life in peace is ultimately the best option?
Three times in my life I've had to deal with jealous female managers.
Once when I was a teenager -- the female assistant I was working under was jealous of me for being smarter than her. She didn't graduate high school. I'm not condescending and didn't judge because people go through many hardships. Well, she had it out for me. She did everything to make me look bad and got me fired.
I had one where the female manager was jealous of me because I was thin and good looking. This woman started looking for anything she could find, all she was able to find was trivial things, so she made up my colleagues had made complaints about me that they never did. Here I was living my best life and here she was obsessively having it out for me.
I ended up not risking another situation where I could get fired and just quit then and there. I could have reported her lies to HR, the board and left a bad Glassdoor review, but didn't.
I had a recent female manager who I had to report for harassment (I work from home too!). HR sided with me and made her stop (maybe they were scared I would file a harassment lawsuit).
I've accepted that jealousy comes with the territory of being good-looking and likable. I'm staying away from female managers and just people who are removed from me.
But how do I deal with it? How can I control it?
I'm curious to know if any partner of yours has romanticized/idealized your disorder?
It seems that a partner seeing you for who you really are (referring to the "ugly" part of the disorder) and losing interest is something common for us cluster Bs. But I was wondering if the opposite ever happened to you, whether because something made them attracted to your toxicity regardless, or because they believed that they were in a relationship out of a dark romance book and in reality things were unhealthy as hell?
It's not that I don't say sorry. If I know saying sorry will yield the better outcome, then I will say sorry. I won't really mean it.
It feels so fake to say it, a lot of the time. It makes me paranoid that someone would pick up on how fake it sounds.
I sometimes wonder if I have aspd because I lack a lot of empathy when my friends are going through something but I still desire to be liked by my friends so I pretend to care/ask about it and it leaves me mentally exhausted when I force myself to.
I have some friends who I consider fake and I have real friends. Do people with ASPD like certain people more than others or is everyone the same to them?
For me it was when I was about 8-9 years old. I started gradually becoming more sociopathic. Now I'm in middle school and the teachers have noticed I show alot of sociopathic behaviors. Like being violent, refusing to take responsibility, lying/gaslighting constantly, and being impulsive. They have offered me therapy but I don't think it would work that much. Still accepted the offer though to fix myself before I become an full blown sociopath.
Hey guys I tend to gaslight, decieve, lie and cause fights between others just to get what I want. Usually that's stuff like free drinks, food, dorgs, s3cs, etc. I've lived a parasitic lifestyle for as long as I remember and I genuinely am not even aware of when I'm doing this, although yes i do all this intentionally.. If my deception is compromised then I fly into rages and do really stupid things, harmful things, like physical fights, running away. Breaking shit. I'm really lonely because I only get discarded if it's too bad, or I discard before I'm found out And my family gets the brunt of it They're innocent and have no idea I'm like this although off late I've been telling them and I think it takes a toll on them What do I do?
All I see are Emo wannabe Sociopaths. I may be wrong, but i doubt it.
A lot of cluster b people report having their diagnosis used as a way for their abusers to avoid accountability. Has this happened to you?
Especially with ASPD (and NPD), i've seen people be abused and subsequently made out to be the abuser because they have a stigmatised disorder. People will be quick to side against a stigmatised disorder, and they'll struggle to deconstruct their cognitive distortions (that "this disorder makes you a bad person") in order the support the victim. Another version i've seen is the intentional***** triggering of ASPD just to get a situation they can play victim in.
I've also struggles with this, where people (usually those with anxious attachments who create a hyper-idealised version of me and don't know/dislike who I actually am) will learn about my ASPD (and HPD) and intentionally trigger me so they can paint me as abusive.
*****Mind you in these situations I speak of the intentional, purposeful triggering of mental illness. In my situations I have calmly set a boundary beforehand, and reminded someone of the boundary while they are actively breaking it. I do not mean a misunderstanding.
I have set up a poll so everyone can look at a glance to see if this situation is common or not.
Does anyone else feel disgusted when someone around them cries, especially over something so minor? It really annoys me when they look up at you with that wounded, helpless expression like a small animal, as if begging for attention. What’s worse is when people spend ages comforting them, yet they still keep crying with that same expression.
I’ve noticed how some people make a huge fuss over the smallest things, especially in public. It irritates me when they break down at an event just because someone was a little rude. Watching others rush to comfort them for hours while they wallow in their misery, acting like their boss yelling at them is the end of the world, ruins the whole mood. It feels like they’re just craving attention.
The whole trend of trauma dumping is even worse. Them comforting each other for hours over things only a child would cry about feels pathetic. It’s as if they think the world revolves around them, especially when they ruin parties by dragging everyone into their drama. I’m here to have fun, not deal with you acting like you’re having a seizure over something so minor.
For example, one girl talks about her mom being upset with her for being lazy (she isn't crying just talking about it), and another girl convinces her it's a bigger deal than it is and her mom is somehow abusive, making her cry. Suddenly, everyone has to comfort her, and the whole party is ruined. It’s frustrating when minor inconveniences are blown out of proportion, and others make it seem like a much bigger issue than it really is.
Individuals with ASPD tend to lack emotion and empathy that is different in the “social standard” but they still have emotions at the end of the day. I’m curious on how some that has been diagnosed with it feels/deals with depression or if it’s something that usually one doesn’t feel often.
does anybody else have this need to control all those around them and do you also get really annoyed when they dont behave in the manner you want them to. another thing id like to add is my recent obsession with cults and cult leaders. while disgusted by their actions of torturing people and such, im so impressed by the way they manipulate those around them and are able to have complete control over their every move. words cannot describe how impressed i am with their skills and ability. for example the case of larry ray, (here's the link for those who aren't familiar with this https://www.thecut.com/article/larry-ray-sarah-lawrence-students.html ) . while disgusted with how ray treated the members of his cult, i was impressed by his ability to charm those around him and be able to manipulate his way out of any situation to achieve his desired outcome. recently I've developed bit of an obsession with this, wanting to be exactly like them and have the same level of these skills and abilities to twist any situation to my advantage.
Hello all. Lurking adhd, aspd here. 30m. I have managed to keep myself in check, and live normally for roughly five years via smoking cannabis most days. I’ve quit a few times for 1+ months but have generally been a heavy user. Prior to this I smoked and used other drugs, heavily, and spent lots of time incarcerated. I have a partner, a son and a business. I’ve built all this high as fuck essentially just doing the next logical thing. It’s cool. Me and my son have a good relationship but I fear he’s like me. Me and my partner have a strained and unemotional relationship, but it works and keeps things progressing status quo. This has kept me straight, too stoned to run a fuckin drug ring and rake it in, and out of prison. Problem is I think I’ve maxed out stoned potential. To make more money, I’ll need to be sober. When I am sober and operating fully things get out of hand fast. I have no friends for a reason, and family that “likes me better when I’m high”. What do I do? I see myself in my son and a chance for something different for him. I’m not sure I can parent properly sober. Looking to discuss and get relative info/feedback, not argue. UPDATE!: I’ve begun the process of getting help and treatment. First thing doc did was give me a med card so I don’t get in trouble (no rec in my state), confirmed diagnosis ADHD+ASPD, current plan is to meet with both a therapist a the psychiatrist separately, once a week for a month before any prescriptions. Everyone’s replies were great, it is truly a risk/reward and I’m gonna take the risk, but slowly and with help. THANKS!! 🙏
I’m BPD and he was a sociopath. It was great the first 2 months although I didn’t know he had ASPD at this point but his social norms and boundaries weren’t the norm and it did raise alarm bells. anyway he has zero emotions and we’ve had about 100 arguments and he’s blocked me countless. I’ve not spoke to him over a week and he’s blocked me again but it seems this time for good. He can’t deal with my emotions and I’m “annoying” He can insult me and abuse me but if I insult him he gets “annoyed” is this common? Do they go back to ex’s or do sociopaths just move on once it’s the final discard? I guess you guys don’t really “feel” as you’re more logical thinkers.
I’ve been thinking a lot about how people navigate their emotions, and I can’t help but notice the unnecessary complexity they often add to situations. It’s somewhat mind-boggling. I just experienced someone reacting very defensively and attempting to guilt trip someone else and garner sympathy over perceived anger from someone else that wasn’t actually present, implied, etc. and they doubled down on their anger and defensiveness when I pointed this out to them.
I feel like people often misinterpret the emotions of others and it leads to conflicts and arguments that are a complete waste of time and accomplish nothing. It seems to me that emotions have a tendency to cloud rational analysis and objective judgments about social dynamics and interactions, it’s odd how people’s emotions can quite literally make them see and hear things that aren’t actually there. And it happens far more often than people are even self-aware of or willing to consider as possible. I see it unfold around me constantly, and personal insecurities seem to be the #1 driving factor for this type of behavior and engagement. I feel like it’d be exhausting to go through life like this.
Then I started thinking about how different types of people experience and interpret this, and I got curious about sociopaths specifically. Do you ever feel like you’re at an advantage as you’re not quite as tuned into these sorts of frequencies? Do you think there’s something inherently valuable or meaningful to emotional experiences? I could be wrong, but my understanding is that sociopaths have a tendency to be detached and insulated from these sorts of emotional distractions. What’s your take on balancing emotional detachment with social effectiveness? Do you think there’s a positive correlation there? In your experience, have you noticed more detachment = more social effectiveness, or has it been the opposite, more emotion = more social effectiveness? Thanks for reading if you made it this far.
Was wondering why my guy friend who is a sociopath and I think maybe even psychopath likes to keep me around sometimes. Always says that I’m awesome and all but that’s hard to believe with how low self esteem I have but I do admire and cherish him for always trying to be there and helping me learn and improve stuff about myself. Was wondering if any of yous ever had a similar kind of friendship or relationship like that.
Does anyone else find a lot of other sociopaths to be completely insufferable? I think my best bet at a friend would be another socio but one that has a high amount of self control and restraint like myself. However, when I try to find one, it’s almost like they’re either flexing being a socio or they’re so self obsessed I can’t stand it.
From your experience, is it possible to actually follow god as a sociopath? Anyone here and their faith seriously, and was diagnosed with ASPD?
What are some of your challenges? How do you attempt to work around those challenges
Minority races, LGBTQ+, poverty stricken, etc. Do you have any bias one way or the other towards them? Do you have a "soft spot" for the disenfranchised or downtrodden? Do you view them differently at all? Are you bigoted? If not, do you think less of people who are?
This is gonna be a rant I’ve been holding in for a while so please bear with me and feel free to share your thoughts. I feel like this has been a recurring feeling in my life. It hits the most when I’m alone, but even out with friends and family this feeling dwells in the back of my mind, like it’s englued to me. The feeling that everyone is strange, almost alien, I feel like no matter what I will never truly belong, with any group, or person. I’ve been to different countries, met tons of people, but every time I greet them, looking into their eyes, this same feeling washes over me as I great them with a smile, this feeling that we’re like on two whole different dimensions of living, completely disconnected, at least I am. A good way to describe it is that clip from Silent Hill 2 of the person running through the forest. When I’m not being distracted by mindless hedonistic bullshit like porn, junk food, money, this feeling lingers over me and clenches onto me like a fucking magnet. Like an overwhelming depression. It feels like nothing can solve it, and that it’s never gonna go away. Anyways sorry for the rant but I just had to get this off my chest. if you relate or have any advice, or just wanna comment please be welcome to