Do you guys reject Socialism or do you think it can replace Capitalism at some distant point in the future?

I feel like I dont reject Socialism necessarily.

Alright some of you guys might know me I did my time chilling.

I’m genuinely confused see look

I live in Europe and Europe had a Declining Population which I find Concerning so I think a way to stop this is to promote people to having children and the nuclear family

BUT

Then you also acknowledge that even before LGBTQ acceptance that Orphans still existed.

SO we need the LGBTQ community as they deserve rights and can if they want adopt the orphans.

SO SEE IM STUCK IN THIS THING WHERE

I don’t necessarily support LGBTQ but I do think just bc you kiss a guy or a girl idk you should be punished.

So To recap

LGBTQ should be allowed but my religion says I shouldn’t but I shouldn’t let my religion dictate my politics bc secularism.

Can I still be Pro lgbtq while promoting people to have kids? And can I still be a social democrat? Or would I be considered a Conservative? I’m confused I have my economic policy I have my foreign and I have everything but this is my final Problem

https://m.khan.co.kr/article/202405011706001

Labor unions in South Korea held massive rallies on Labor Day against anti-labor policy of Yoon Suk-yol government. They call for “yellow envelope law”, a pro-union bill which limits excessive damage claims by corporations against workers during strikes, to be reintroduced in National Assembly. They also expressed opposition to “Discriminatory Minimum Wage Proposal”, a government plan to undercut the minimal wage of migrant workers and immigrants by introducing separate minimum wage standard for these foreign workers.

“Discriminatory Minimum Wage Proposal” is a new minimum wage proposal made by Yoon Suk-Yol government last year. Current South Korean system of minimum wage is an universal system which no matter who the workers are and where they work, they get same minimum wage protection . The conservative government claimed there needs to be different minimum wage standard for foreign workers. So, the government is considering discriminatory minimum wage toward migrant workers and immigrants. This would mean lower minimum wage for immigrants. This new proposal is opposed by labor unions and faced criticism from opposition parties. This is against the principle of “equal labor equal pay” and ILO treaties which South Korea has ratified. So, South Korean labor movement is calling for equal rights and treatment for immigrants and migrant workers.

Construction Union, held a seperate preliminary rally before joining the main rally to remember the fallen in the struggle. On the anniversary of the death of construction union leader Yang Hoedong, who self-immolated last Labor Day, the Construction Union held a preliminary rally in front of the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency in Seodaemun-gu, shouting, "Let's crush anti-union oppression and defend workers' right to survive." Among the ranks filling the area in front of the police agency, Yang's brother, Yang Hoeseon, sat at the forefront with his eyes tightly closed, listening to the chants of the union members. Yang said, "The last cry of my deceased brother, who endured the agony of death, was to create a world where workers can live like human beings," adding, "Let's fight together to create a world without labor oppression."

I wish all of you a good Labour day and 1st of May, from the city of Gothenburg, where in 1890 the first Swedish social-democratic “workers’ commune” (what we call our local departments) was founded.

That same year 25’000 Gothenburgian workers came together to commemorate the workers who died in the Haymarket massacre.

The picture is from the Labour day-demonstration of 1942 in Gothenburg, where our then prime minister and chairman Per-Albin Hansson held a speech.

Here is a also link to a Swedish social-democratic song about Labour day (”Första maj”, lit. “1st of May”). The man on the picture in the video is Olof Palme.

If we could implement a global government that was run as a proper democracy we could easily solve climate change, tax the rich billionaires and set up global social security systems, human rights for all could become a reality. I believe in this reality but it will take a lot of work. Imagine a world where we could enforce things like global seatbelt laws, global anti-trafficking laws, rogue states that commit warcrimes and genocides could be brought before a global court and their leaders tried.

There are enough videos and reports of students policing these encampments with checkpoints where they don’t allow Zionists to enter, even Jewish and Israeli peace activists who just happen to believe in a two-state solution. They speak in terms of a simple binary of pro-genocide Jews and anti-genocide Jews, or basically good Jews and bad Jews. I am deeply uncomfortable with this and think it’s completely devoid of nuance. Even though I’m not a Zionist, I refuse to believe all Zionists are equivalent to Nazis like much of Gen Z has been saying. There is even a tradition of labor Zionists and socialist Zionists. Just because I don’t believe a Jewish state is necessary doesn’t mean everyone who believes one is necessary to protect Jews from persecution is equivalent to a Nazi.

I know a lot of progressive Jews who feel disturbed, dismayed, alienated, and even betrayed by the violent rhetoric used by some of the leaders of these protests. Saying Zionists don’t deserve to live, that they should be al-Qassam’s next victims, that missiles should destroy Tel Aviv, that all Israeli Jews need to leave and go back to Poland/Europe (even though 40% of Israelis are Mizrahi Jews, meaning they’re Middle Eastern and have brown skin just like Palestinians), praising or showing solidarity with Hamas, showing no sympathy or concern for the civilian hostages taken by Hamas (which is a war crime, despite people downplaying it), bringing the flag of Hezbollah to the protests, etc.

The actions/behavior and language of these protestors is also just not productive or helpful to their cause. I saw on the news that one Ivy League school that has largely been able to avoid these protests is Dartmouth because it has been holding meetings between pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli students for months now. Civil dialogue will lead to a solution, not violent rhetoric and shouting over each other.

In terms of divestment, I support the calls for universities to divest from Israel, but if we’re gonna hold these schools to that standard, why are there no protestors calling for divestment from the UAE, which is funding the genocide in Sudan? Do none of these students care about the genocide in Sudan? Why does the only country they’re calling for divestment from happen to be the only Jewish country? Why not call for schools to divest from China due to the Uyghur genocide? Or Qatar for its slave labor and human rights abuses? I just don’t like the hypocrisy and think there is some underlying antisemitism to these protests.

The Canadian Future Party is a brand new party in Canada (that is one the verge of being approved by Elections Canada) that is trying to market itself as a "centrist" party. But I must say (as a someone who finds Social Democracy to be the ideology that best matches my beliefs) I love all these policies (except one). Here are the main things that they wanna do:
-Implement MMPR
-Adopt "A national internet strategy to protect privacy and allow citizens control over their digital lives."
-Regulate AI
-Create a simplified tax code
-Create a plan to reduce the national debt
-CANZUK
-Invest in renewable energy, nuclear energy, and carbon capture
-Only import oil from democratic countries
-"Create a national civil defence corps to increase resilience in the face of natural disasters, to offer young people an opportunity for service"
-Remove the carbon tax on individuals and only have a tax on large emitters
-Turn the RCMP into a new national intelligence agency (this is the only thing I kind of disagree with) and leave policing up to the provinces.
-Bring in immigrants who are skilled at homebuilding
-Increase defense spending to 2% of our GDP (which of course is our NATO commitment)
-Support Ukraine and Taiwan
-Break up large monopolies in the telecom, airline, and grocery sectors
Technically, all of this is subject to change because the members are gonna vote on which policies to implement into the platform. But I would think the only people joining the party will agree with what is on the website now.
Sources: https://www.ourcanadianfuture.ca/policy-framework https://acuriouslookatpoliticsinbc.blogspot.com/2023/09/dominic-cardy-well-that-was-quite-week.html?m=1
P.S Mods if you see this could we get a Canadian Future Party flair?

I'm mostly talking about GenZ. I'm starting to see more and more young people sincerely talk positively of democratic socialism and communism. The idea that capitalism is the root of all the world's evils seems to be quite mainstream with young adults. As a GenZ adult myself, I'm starting to feel alienated because I still advocate for capitalism and free markets. Is this perception that I have distorted, or is this accurate to what you've all been experiencing?

In the rapidly polarizing political landscapes of North America. In the realm of politics, the classic dichotomy of left versus right has shaped ideologies and driven discourse for centuries. However, in a paradoxical twist of fate, it appears that the political landscapes of Canada and the United States have undergone a remarkable transformation: right-wing Canadians and left-wing Americans may find themselves surprisingly aligned in their values and ideals. There have been calls for a "national divorce" of red and blue states but I think a better idea is what I call "The Great Ideology Swap" in which right-wing Canadians migrate to the United States and left-wing Americans relocate to Canada. Permanently relocate to each other's countries to end extreme political division and make both sides of the extreme happy.

To me as a left leaning British-Canadian I find Conservatism to be an outdated ideology and humanity would be better off if it didn't exist but I know that we can't just Thanos snap it out of existence so I think having two separate countries for the left and right is more realistic but it's hard to deny the fact that we can no longer find common ground or understanding.

The impetus for this swap stems from the growing dissatisfaction with the current political systems in both countries. In Canada, the Conservative Party has come to be perceived as overly partisan and out of touch with the needs of the people. Similarly, in the United States, the left wing of the Democratic Party has been accused of pushing an overly progressive agenda that alienates moderate and conservative voters.

By relocating across borders, right-wing Canadians and left-wing Americans would be forced to confront different perspectives and lived experiences. For right-wing Canadians, the allure of the United States lies in its robust economy, lower tax rates, and a political culture that aligns more closely with their own. They believe that the US would allow them to pursue their goals with greater freedom and enjoy a higher standard of living. Conversely, left-wing Americans may be drawn to Canada's universal healthcare system, strong social safety net and commitment to environmental sustainability. They see Canada as a more progressive and compassionate society, where their values of inclusivity, equality and social justice are more highly regarded. The stark contrast between the Canadian healthcare system, for example and the American reliance on private insurance could challenge preconceived notions about what constitutes a fair and equitable society.

Of course, such a swap is not without its challenges. Moreover, the sheer scale of the operation would raise logistical and financial concerns. More importantly, there is no guarantee that participants would be willing to leave their respective countries but I find the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

This might be a radical and ambitious proposal that demands but as the political landscapes of Canada and the United States continue to shift desperate times calls for desperate measures. While its practicality may be debated, its potential to foster greater understanding and bridge political divides is undeniable. The Great Ideology Swap may not be the perfect solution, but it deserves consideration as a potential catalyst for a more harmonious future. 

AOC is getting shit from far-leftists on twitter for going to the Palestine protests while endorsing Joe Biden. I pointed out that leftists are allergic to pragmatism, that we can pull the party and the country left if we keep electing progressives and I got dragged in the replies. These people think there's going to be a communist revolution and hate electoralism. If AOC somehow became president it would be a major victory both for Palestine and the global south, but they can't see that

Former neoliberal/libertarian here. I’ve recently embraced progressive politics, primarily due to my somber experience living in Tory Britain all my adult life and learning about Georgism.

What should I know?

Looking for examples; classics or personal opinions and favorites.

I’m familiar with anarchist theory and much of socialist theory (but not enough, I’ll readily admit).

But I wonder what would be considered SocDem theory.

So, what’s your poison?

The recent Israel-Palestine protests in the US have been very concerning for a whole load of reasons.

1. Antisemitism/Islamophobia/Xenophobia on both sides are extremely alarming and I've seen so much concerning rhetoric including but not limited too: "the protesters are foreign agitators", "the protesters should be deported", "A one state solution is correct" "advocating for intifada" "advocating for violence in general" "protesters are Hamas terrorists"

Overall it really just brings the worst out of the right and the left in terms of polarization especially with the heavily implied violence on both sides. Both positions are completely unacceptable as it's blatantly just violent rhetoric.

2. The mass arrests and curtailment of civil liberties and extremely concerning. Hundreds of mostly non violent protesters should not be arrested and it really seems like a massive step back for the right of assembly.

The ACLU says as much: https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/fighting-campus-censorship-the-aclu-defends-pro-palestinian-voices-in-florida#:~:text=SR%3A%20Once%20again%2C%20we%20are,expression%2C%20regardless%20of%20the%20perspective.

3. US involvement and my disappointment in Biden. This one is really personal to me as I use to be a very strong Biden supporter and I'll still vote for him in the next election because I'm trans and voting for Trump is well...

That being said, with the US sending another "1,800 MK84 2,000-pound bombs and 500 MK82 500-pound bombs" to Israel in March and seeing the NYT editorials and pictures of the thousands of bomb craters they found in civilian areas of Gaza is really just horrible.

I think a core principle of Social Democracy is the innate value of human life and welfare and just seeing US weapons being used in a way that violates international laws regulating war is extremely demoralizing as a democrat.

NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/21/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-bomb-investigation.html Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-has-signed-off-more-bombs-warplanes-israel-washington-post-reports-2024-03-29/#:~:text=The%20new%20arms%20packages%20include,to%20Israel%2C%20its%20longtime%20ally.

My opinion on BDS/Divestment: Honestly I really do not like the rhetoric and concerning language of the protesters and those supporting the BDS movement but I do think US participation in the Gazan campaign is really concerning. Both Israel and Hamas have been conducting loads of human rights violations and war crimes and I think a responsible country really should not be involved.

Anyways, do you agree? Am I 100% wrong? Have I played too much TNO? Was this too long? What are your opinions? Should I touch grass?

Honestly I just want y'alls opinions on this.

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