A lot of folks mindlessly regurgitate the Franklin got ‘greedy’ thing when he just wanted his money back. You could say they wouldn’t put that one line from Avi in the show for no reason, but if they wanted to show that Franklin’s ‘greed’ was his downfall. They sure as hell didn’t execute it well enough 📝

The cut and dry of it is, what Manboy said was Franklin’s actual downfall. What Avi said was Louie’s downfall. Louie’s cat was Jerome’s downfall. Shifty morals and unplanned stupidly executed actions were his parents’ downfall. Underestimation was Teddy’s downfall 🪦

It’s funny how the two people who weren’t even blood (Leon and Oso), were the realest people he had around him 🗣️💯📬

They were able to pull off getting the documents to prove the transfer. Also successfully extracted the numbers from teddy. It was too plot armorish looking back that Franklin would agree to free teddy in public without getting something.

We know Skully, Cornrows, and his boys are from Bloods.

ManBoy, Deon, and their people are from Crips.

Where's Kane from? Looks like he comes from some kind of set but he doesn't come off as Crip, or Blood.

Did Teddy wanted to get rid of Lorena?

https://reddit.com/link/1gghiom/video/auaw11sv24yd1/player

Leon and Franklin go to HTB Tribe to get Franklin's money back after he was robbed by Lenny and Ray-Ray. This is where arguably the biggest villain of the series (Karvel) is introduced...

I was watching the scene of franklin torturing teddy and thought if karvel was there would he had gotten it faster?

Check your candy 🍬

I was sick when she killed teddy I really wanted Franklin to win but he was so dangerous and desperate this season. Why wouldn’t Franklin just attempt to start over with Leon?

Cissy did the right thing, there was no way that teddy would forget what happened and cissy saw that when she asked teddy about alton, she was trying to see if he would lie leading her to believe letting frank go would also be a lie.

Getting that money wouldve killed her son. He's the drunk neighborhood unc now but at least hes alive. (Also im glad oso is safe now that hes dead)

I’m wondering if Franklin ever drank or smoke before. I’m arguing with someone who is sure that Franklin drank and smoked weed in the earlier seasons but I do not remember him ever doing that. All I remember is him refusing whenever he was offered. But maybe I’m just remembering wrong? Does he?

Please help me find a good resolution of season 3 title sequences in the intro (the ones with the city gradually being more and more deep in police and chaos) I need them as my wallpaper, please if someone can help.

just finished snowfall, pretty good however i have a theory on what snowfall is actually about

I think snowfall is about the American dream, and people on the 2 sides of the coin of what it creates. Teddy is someone who fully believes in the American dream and is willing to do anything he can to preserve it, to the point where he actively harms and destroys the lives of others for his country, meanwhile franklin is someone who believed it until he faced reality, and then did anything he could to escape the society attempting to uphold it.

I believe the reason why is to show that the American dream is a lie, and that its role in propaganda not only harms those rejected by it, but also those who believe it, and creates a society where people are willing to do anything to either preserve it or escape it.

The CIA drug trafficking is the perfect way to express this too, showing one of the worst things America did to "protect the dream" while also allowing them to create a character that wants to escape the dream, and have them both work together for a significant time to show that the idea of it leads to corruption if believed in, past or future.

Note: am fried af, stayed up all night watching it before writing this, sorry if im chatting shit.

Maybe I missed it but I feel like there was no real closure to his character, we see jerome die and then thats it. I feel like he was a good character and had pretty good morals compared to the other ppl in the game. Same goes for all the OG's tbh, Rome, Deon and Skully were pretty agreeable overall

Where do you guys feel this ranks on tv show endings overall. From ones that I have watched I think its the best because it really sticks with you, anytime I think about the show it makes me wanna cry because of the ending, no other show has stuck with me to that extent yk?

Just finished up the series and omfggg Franklin was so damn close. The show started feeling like “Uncut Gems” in the sense that one thing after another kept going wrong for Franklin money wise and he kept having to chase and chase to get it all back, taking one step forward and then 5 backwards. When cissy shot teddy it felt just like when Adam Sandler got popped at the end of uncut gems lmao.

I know from a moral perspective Cissy was doing the right thing kinda but I just really felt for Franklin in that moment after all he went through to try and reclaim his stolen money and then his own mother who was all over the place morally throughout the show (in my opinion) just ripped it from him.

I’ve got some patchwork tattoos on my arm and the theme behind it is based around TV and cinema that I love.

Just like I’m sure the rest of you in this subreddit, I’m a massive fan of Snowfall and I think it needs to be represented.

I’ve been trying to think of ideas but I am struggling, wanted to open up the floor to all y’all.

Could be a quote from a character, a basic image related to snowfall etc.

ALSO, if anyone has any snowfall tattoos themselves PLS SHARE!! Send me a message with photos!!

Teddy McDonald is an incredibly fascinating character to me, and why that is mostly comes down to his motives for doing what he does.

Teddy is very much part of the morally decaying antihero protagonist trope, like Franklin and Walter White and Tony Soprano and so many more. The shared theme that most of these characters embody and that people always talk about is how they have some sort of initial altruistic reasoning for doing the things that they do(Walter and Tony supporting their families, Franklin escaping the conditions that the system forces him to live in) but as the story goes on it becomes increasingly clear that this is nothing but a thinly veiled excuse- that they are actually driven only by their own greed and apathy and in the end don't really care about what they claim to be achieving with their actions. This is not Teddy.

Teddy actually DOES believe in his patriotic dream of America. He DOES think he's doing the right thing. While his own narcissistic self-preservation is most definitely a huge part of his character as well, for most of the series his primary motive very much still is this idealized, somewhat selfless goal of winning the war. He's different from Franklin and others because his flaw isn't that his crusade is a facade, but that his view of what doing the right thing is completely skewed.

His failure in Nicaragua and even more so his upbringing by his father are two of the major reasons why he develops a corrupted, immoral view of what it means to, uhh... make America great again? Lol. And he does everything for the purpose of achieving that, sacrificing everything down to his own family, killing the undeserving, until it costs him his life.

In my opinion this is what makes Teddy dangerous. He lacks the weakness of hiding behind excuses and insecurities, because he genuinely believes in what he preaches. He just also happens to be a delusional, evil piece of shit who lacks foresight and watching him get boiled like a crab after his idiotic underestimation of Franklin was pretty fun.

What do y'all think?

andre wright looks like some type of bird from a move cartoon video game or show i watched i just can’t seem to put my finger on it. Does anyone know what im talking about?

Season 4 episode 5: The audacity that manboy came To apologize to skully and tell him it isn’t on him stop blaming himself that was def a lie it’s on skully manboy and Franklin that little girl is dead they never wanna take responsibility and blame everyone else

I been seeing post and stuff about people saying Leon a child murderer etc, he may be but at what cost ? He got brought into a middle of a gang war and was ambushed twice and had nothing to do with it. Second time he was ambushed they pulled along his vehicle and opened fire and they open fired and killed the little girl. My first question is why would she bring a little girl along with dudes actively hunting for man boy, and Franklin’s people knowing they could be shot back at. Now, man boy wants revenge for his niece for a war. He started with his nieces, father they audacity of them the mother man, boy Scully, and Franklin are the ones to blame for that little girls death. Anyone else agree ?

Everything was put together so well, although I never would have thought franklin would just end up going broke like that. This shit had me in tears man, this dude went from a crack slanging millionaire to drunk broken down man, this was tragic man.

I would have played it so different, but then again I place value on friends and family. Lol. I keep seeing posts about everyone betraying Franklin and how he deserved better, but he made a lot of bad choices, he just could not accept financial loss of any kind. Teddy was similar but his obsession was power, not money. There are a few moments that send him spiralling; obviously quitting on Teddy, but also failing to manage Louie’s ambitions better so that she never had to go over his head. After losing his bank, I personally think if he’d sold Spring Street he’d still had a (tiny) empire to rebuild, he’d have his wife, his kid, self-respect, friends. But his all or nothing attitude is really what did him in. And that’s because he only ever really cared about himself, the rest wasn’t of value to him. So fine. What would you have done differently in a version of the story where you have Spring Street and you win it all and live large for the rest of your life?

I really want the black/white mugshot from franklin saint in high quality from season 2 E10 (02:42), but amazon prime wont let me screenshot it, maybe you guys can help me? On google they are just with color or low quality.

Season 3 episode 10 is my favorite episode. The art and cinematography is beautiful. Seeing Franklin in college trying to make it but is denied because lack of funds to finish school is a black man's everyday life.