/r/SnowFall
This sub is for the FX TV series Snowfall. This is how crack began.
Set in 1983 Los Angeles, the series revolves around the first crack epidemic and its impact on the culture of the city.
The series follows the stories of several characters whose lives are doomed to intersect: 19-year-old drug dealer Franklin Saint, Mexican luchador Gustavo "El Oso" Zapata, CIA operative Teddy McDonald, and Luica Villanueva, the daughter of a Mexican crime boss.
Set in 1983 Los Angeles, the series revolves around the first crack epidemic and its impact on the culture of the city. The series follows the stories of several characters whose lives are doomed to intersect: 19-year-old drug dealer Franklin Saint, Mexican luchador Gustavo "El Oso" Zapata, CIA operative Teddy McDonald, and Luica Villanueva, the daughter of a Mexican crime boss.
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/r/SnowFall
So weird - we have all seasons but season 5 in NZ. Is there anywhere else I can watch it please?! 🙏🏼
I know this is all subjective and all. I'm really enjoying Franklin's story, it's really good! But boy do I not give two shits about the other two ends of it all. I just don't care about the characters at all.
Just thought might put this one out there he knows he was on acid but doesnt tell anyone what he experience
In my opinion, I think snowfall slams breaking bad. Don’t get me wrong bb is still one of the best shows I’ve ever watched but snowfall is just peak
In episode 1 season 3 she says things like:
"I'm in with you on this, from now on.[] But it's up to you to protect everyone. Can you do it or not?"
Seems completely off. What did I miss?
What do you think are the best Snowfall scenes?
Do you think Franklin would killed rob if Thad didn’t mention his cia friend ?
I understand why Franklin exiled Alton and assaulted him for speaking to the press. But the way he dify is mother who has Sacrificed everything for him is wrong.
I literally am puzzled as to how franklin shooting kev landed him in prison with basically a murder one
Kev opened fire in broad daylight on civilians at basically a playground kids event Had franklin not shot him they would've all ended up alot worse potentially
Maybe im missing something but (also i understand it was to progress the plot probably but still) just some food for thought kinda crazy they painted it like he murdered someone innocent in cold blood
A lot of folks mindlessly regurgitate the Franklin got ‘greedy’ thing when he just wanted his money back. You could say they wouldn’t put that one line from Avi in the show for no reason, but if they wanted to show that Franklin’s ‘greed’ was his downfall. They sure as hell didn’t execute it well enough 📝
The cut and dry of it is, what Manboy said was Franklin’s actual downfall. What Avi said was Louie’s downfall. Louie’s cat was Jerome’s downfall. Shifty morals and unplanned stupidly executed actions were his parents’ downfall. Underestimation was Teddy’s downfall 🪦
It’s funny how the two people who weren’t even blood (Leon and Oso), were the realest people he had around him 🗣️💯📬
They were able to pull off getting the documents to prove the transfer. Also successfully extracted the numbers from teddy. It was too plot armorish looking back that Franklin would agree to free teddy in public without getting something.
We know Skully, Cornrows, and his boys are from Bloods.
ManBoy, Deon, and their people are from Crips.
Where's Kane from? Looks like he comes from some kind of set but he doesn't come off as Crip, or Blood.
Did Teddy wanted to get rid of Lorena?
https://reddit.com/link/1gghiom/video/auaw11sv24yd1/player
Leon and Franklin go to HTB Tribe to get Franklin's money back after he was robbed by Lenny and Ray-Ray. This is where arguably the biggest villain of the series (Karvel) is introduced...
I was watching the scene of franklin torturing teddy and thought if karvel was there would he had gotten it faster?
Check your candy 🍬
I was sick when she killed teddy I really wanted Franklin to win but he was so dangerous and desperate this season. Why wouldn’t Franklin just attempt to start over with Leon?
Cissy did the right thing, there was no way that teddy would forget what happened and cissy saw that when she asked teddy about alton, she was trying to see if he would lie leading her to believe letting frank go would also be a lie.
Getting that money wouldve killed her son. He's the drunk neighborhood unc now but at least hes alive. (Also im glad oso is safe now that hes dead)
I’m wondering if Franklin ever drank or smoke before. I’m arguing with someone who is sure that Franklin drank and smoked weed in the earlier seasons but I do not remember him ever doing that. All I remember is him refusing whenever he was offered. But maybe I’m just remembering wrong? Does he?
Please help me find a good resolution of season 3 title sequences in the intro (the ones with the city gradually being more and more deep in police and chaos) I need them as my wallpaper, please if someone can help.
just finished snowfall, pretty good however i have a theory on what snowfall is actually about
I think snowfall is about the American dream, and people on the 2 sides of the coin of what it creates. Teddy is someone who fully believes in the American dream and is willing to do anything he can to preserve it, to the point where he actively harms and destroys the lives of others for his country, meanwhile franklin is someone who believed it until he faced reality, and then did anything he could to escape the society attempting to uphold it.
I believe the reason why is to show that the American dream is a lie, and that its role in propaganda not only harms those rejected by it, but also those who believe it, and creates a society where people are willing to do anything to either preserve it or escape it.
The CIA drug trafficking is the perfect way to express this too, showing one of the worst things America did to "protect the dream" while also allowing them to create a character that wants to escape the dream, and have them both work together for a significant time to show that the idea of it leads to corruption if believed in, past or future.
Note: am fried af, stayed up all night watching it before writing this, sorry if im chatting shit.
Maybe I missed it but I feel like there was no real closure to his character, we see jerome die and then thats it. I feel like he was a good character and had pretty good morals compared to the other ppl in the game. Same goes for all the OG's tbh, Rome, Deon and Skully were pretty agreeable overall
Where do you guys feel this ranks on tv show endings overall. From ones that I have watched I think its the best because it really sticks with you, anytime I think about the show it makes me wanna cry because of the ending, no other show has stuck with me to that extent yk?
Just finished up the series and omfggg Franklin was so damn close. The show started feeling like “Uncut Gems” in the sense that one thing after another kept going wrong for Franklin money wise and he kept having to chase and chase to get it all back, taking one step forward and then 5 backwards. When cissy shot teddy it felt just like when Adam Sandler got popped at the end of uncut gems lmao.
I know from a moral perspective Cissy was doing the right thing kinda but I just really felt for Franklin in that moment after all he went through to try and reclaim his stolen money and then his own mother who was all over the place morally throughout the show (in my opinion) just ripped it from him.
I’ve got some patchwork tattoos on my arm and the theme behind it is based around TV and cinema that I love.
Just like I’m sure the rest of you in this subreddit, I’m a massive fan of Snowfall and I think it needs to be represented.
I’ve been trying to think of ideas but I am struggling, wanted to open up the floor to all y’all.
Could be a quote from a character, a basic image related to snowfall etc.
ALSO, if anyone has any snowfall tattoos themselves PLS SHARE!! Send me a message with photos!!
Teddy McDonald is an incredibly fascinating character to me, and why that is mostly comes down to his motives for doing what he does.
Teddy is very much part of the morally decaying antihero protagonist trope, like Franklin and Walter White and Tony Soprano and so many more. The shared theme that most of these characters embody and that people always talk about is how they have some sort of initial altruistic reasoning for doing the things that they do(Walter and Tony supporting their families, Franklin escaping the conditions that the system forces him to live in) but as the story goes on it becomes increasingly clear that this is nothing but a thinly veiled excuse- that they are actually driven only by their own greed and apathy and in the end don't really care about what they claim to be achieving with their actions. This is not Teddy.
Teddy actually DOES believe in his patriotic dream of America. He DOES think he's doing the right thing. While his own narcissistic self-preservation is most definitely a huge part of his character as well, for most of the series his primary motive very much still is this idealized, somewhat selfless goal of winning the war. He's different from Franklin and others because his flaw isn't that his crusade is a facade, but that his view of what doing the right thing is completely skewed.
His failure in Nicaragua and even more so his upbringing by his father are two of the major reasons why he develops a corrupted, immoral view of what it means to, uhh... make America great again? Lol. And he does everything for the purpose of achieving that, sacrificing everything down to his own family, killing the undeserving, until it costs him his life.
In my opinion this is what makes Teddy dangerous. He lacks the weakness of hiding behind excuses and insecurities, because he genuinely believes in what he preaches. He just also happens to be a delusional, evil piece of shit who lacks foresight and watching him get boiled like a crab after his idiotic underestimation of Franklin was pretty fun.
What do y'all think?