I was watching college basketball just now and saw a scout commercial! I haven’t seen a tv ad for scout before and it got me hype!!!

Edit: can’t change the title, should say “Traveler or Terra”.

I’ve been eyeing (and adoring) Rivian for years, including holding the stock since IPO. However I’ve loved (and continue to daily drive) my ICE Audi A6 for many years longer.

When I saw the investment that The Volkswagen Group made in Rivian, I leaned forward in my seat. I happily secured a deposit/reservation towards the Scout Terra - as I appreciate the versatility of a truck (as a landlord and deer hunter).

I’m also concerned about how a cloth roof will last in a cold-weather, humid State - and haven’t found info about whether the Traveler will have a solid-roof option.

Wondering if anyone else is on the fence between the two, where you’re getting the most current specs/options/details about the vehicles and considerations I should ponder to confirm my decision (or guide me to make a switch)?

TLDR: Cold Weather State, big game hunter, landlord and Reservation for Terra. Concerned about cloth, retractable roof as potential only roof option, but can’t get over beauty and interior of Traveler. Looking for opinions, durability of Harvester roof and suggestions for future first-time EV owner.

Longer post, but wanted to make sure I explained it thoroughly especially since I’ve done cross country roadtrips, exploring out west, national parks, etc. in an EV.

The updated news: On the ScoutEV Forum website, it seems to all be but confirmed from Scout that the Traveler Harvester range extender generator version will be a 150 EV battery and then 350 miles from the gas range extender totaling the 500 miles.

This is opposite to what the keynote portrayed and led us to believe that the gas range extender added 150 miles presumably to the already 350 mile EV battery like in the pure EV Harvester version.

Why this even better and makes me like the Traveler Harvester even more:

As a current Model Y Long Range owner whenever roadtripping, exploring national parks, traveling out west, etc. it takes anywhere from 28-50 mins usually to supercharge and get back on the road. This is charging at 250kW power delivery to the 82kWh battery. Roadtripping with supercharger rates compared to gas comes out to about the same price assuming 30-35mpg gas equivalent.

Outside of roadtrips I home charge and use a maximum 120 miles for daily driving. With home charging my efficiency is 3x cheaper than gas and get about 100mpg compared to gas efficiency equivalent.

Now with that laid out, enter the Scout Traveler Harvester. It’s 150 mile EV battery is enough for every day driving and home charging keeps it as cheap as possible (and no more gas station stops!). When roadtripping you get 350 miles from the gas generator powering the EV. The vehicle still operates as an EV with the added power, torque, acceleration, etc. And the best part!? It only takes 2 minutes to fill up with gas to get 350 miles range with the EV generator as opposed to 50 minutes to supercharge the battery of the pure EV version since it’s 350 miles range at 100% charge. Then since many gas stations now have chargers at them you can get an added 150 miles range to total 500 miles by supercharging the 150 mile capacity battery. Or just hit the road with your “recharged” EV after filling with gas for 2 minutes!

At first when I saw this news I thought this makes me want the 350 mile EV version instead of the Harvester EV + Gas. Once I analyzed the “why” Scout would do this, I realized 150 miles EV & 350 miles gas generator is so much better than 350 miles EV & 150 miles gas generator. I’m now even more excited for the Traveler Harvester!

I usually own sedans, but I put in my reservation for a traveler. Given that, I’m not familiar with SUV upgrades, especially an electric SUV. Just curious, with all the features that the Traveler is supposed to have, what upgrades are y’all thinking about?

Side note: I know this is years in advance.

Currently driving a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Sahara with 218K miles—still mostly stock. It’s been a great ride; I treated it well, and it’s returned the favor.

That said, as I think about my next vehicle, I’m not loving the direction Jeep is heading. It feels like they’ve lost touch with their customers, and the reasons are well-documented.

So, I’ve reserved the Traveler. Over the next two years, I’ll be aggressive about saving money, giving myself time to see where Jeep goes from here or if I move forward with the Traveler. At this point, my gut says it’s the latter.

I’m turning 50 this year, so this might be one of my last "big" purchases. Looking forward to the journey and seeing how this community evolves.

Enjoy the ride, everyone!

I have a reservation for the Terra Harvester. But reading reports that the smaller battery will have only 150 miles of range which to me translates to 100-120 real world miles of EV range.

I have owned multiple Toyota hybrid SUVs and they work beautifully for my use case and love the 32 mpg.

But since I have the pickup, thinking of eventually switching to full EV and for longer trips, hauling a little gas generator when needed, in the truck bed that acts as a range extender. This also keeps things simple with electrical components in the car.

Thoughts? Are there any generators that would support this type of setup? Anybody do this with their existing EVs?

Edit: Wording. Added "100-120 real world miles"

Does anyone know how the electric + gas version of the Traveler will work.

For example, electric is obv all electric for its range approximately 350mi.

Will electric + gas mean pure electric for 350 and then gas for 150 or until you are able to charge again (like the Chevy Volt)?

Or is it like a plug-in hybrid where the ICE motor and electric motor work together (for lack of a better term) to give you 500mi range, i.e. the ICE motor is always running?

Thanks, sorry if this has already been discussed.

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I’ve ordered new cars from configurators and then waited with bated breath for a few months while my baby was built, but I cant believe I’ve just given a company my money to ‘hold’ me a spot for a car that doesn’t exist yet.

The Traveler looks GREAT and seems like a fantastic mix of rugged and stylish (so was my new gen RR Defender but damn it was unreliable so I had to kiss her goodbye). The kicker for me, after trying EVs and hating the charging experience… the GAS generator! Why hasn’t anyone else done this? The ability to do most of my driving with battery power while having no range anxiety? Yes, please!

My worries: 1) VW…. Since they’ve had a rather difficult time this decade (ahem) telling the truth, how comfortable am I that they’re the backer of Scout? Well, I like that Scout seems to be speaking up for their own autonomy and VW has deep pockets, so we’ll see. 2) I’ve never done the early deposit thing so I’m prepared that it could be 2028 before I get a slot. 3) Price creep? I hope not.

Anyway, let the countdown begin!

Has anyone noticed that any mention of the long bed option has been scrubbed from their website? Originally, there was a schematic showing both a short bed and long bed (6.5') versions of the Terra, but now you can't find that anymore. I really hope they still end up offering a long bed at some point. I think I am the only American out there who hates the 5 to 5.5-foot bed trend of being the best you can get in a midsize truck anymore.

What are the differences between these two subs? I follow both and it’s constantly the same two posts being added to both subs. Not sure which one to unfollow. I don’t see the point in being subscribed to both if it’s the same content. Just looking for some clarification

Edit: I decided to unsubscribe to /r/scout due to having less followers. I don’t want to see double of every post until vehicles are launched. I think the mods need to address this to eliminate confusion for interested customers

I just put in a reservation for a Traveler and honestly everything I’ve seen on the current concepts has blown me away. I definitely want the range extender gas generator which gives me peace of mind when driving into the mountains here in Colorado. Can’t wait to get pinged to start the customization process in a couple years

I test drove a F-150 Lightning and knew I needed an ev truck to replace my 250k mile Tacoma. Couldn’t come to a deal with ford and then saw a CES video of the terra and was hooked. I’ll save a ton of money and make sure my taco runs for a few more years till I can retire her for this beauty.

Has anyone seen if there is a sunglasses Holder anywhere in the Traveler? I've watched some of the videos but I haven't seen anything that looks like it yet.

I’ve been hoping for a manufacturer to make a nice, off-road capable plug in hybrid SUV for a while now. I want a vehicle that is an EV most of the time around town, but could also be roadtripped a few times a year without long waits at a charging station. So I preordered a Traveler with a range extender the first week it was announced. Seemed like the perfect vehicle for my aspirations!

I’m starting to wonder though, how practical a plan is this? If I go on a road trip and never plug it in, is the gas mileage going to suck? Will I need to make time to both gas it up and charge it as I go? What kind of range can I expect to get on an empty battery and a full tank of gas? Would something like the trip from Furnace Creek to Racetrack Playa (~170 mile round trip) be feasible?

I know hard numbers aren’t out yet, I’m just wondering on a hypothetical level… is this range extender practical for the kind of use cases I’m talking about or would a more traditional plug in hybrid (that to my knowledge, does not exist in a similar form factor) be a better bet?

I've seen them talk about how the leather seats are real leather and not vegan leather or whatever, but I'm curious if cloth seats will be an option. I live in an area that will see 120+ temperatures and cloth is much preferred.

Am I missing something ethi g?

I know they offer a gas engine option, and it powers the electric engine. That sounds like a brilliant range extender idea. Do you think this setup changes how maintenance is handled compared to a traditional engine or PHEV two engine options? Maybe it requires less maintenance?

Has this been done with other cars before? I’d love to hear some input on this!

EDIT: The responses I realized I can asked ChatGPT about how BMW i3 and Chevy Volt did with that model. This is a GAME CHANGER way better than PHEV, but agree need to wait for actual details this feature when it's in production.

The Chevrolet Volt and BMW i3 with Range Extender (REx) both incorporate gasoline engines primarily designed to generate electricity, differing from traditional internal combustion engines (ICE) that directly power the vehicle. This design generally results in reduced maintenance requirements due to less frequent use and operation under consistent conditions.

Chevrolet Volt: • Oil Changes: The Volt’s engine often operates less frequently, especially for drivers who predominantly use electric mode. Consequently, oil change intervals can be extended. General Motors recommends changing the oil when the Oil Life Monitor indicates 10% remaining life or every two years, whichever comes first.

BMW i3 with Range Extender: • Oil Changes: BMW recommends changing the engine oil and filter every 10,000 miles or 12 months, whichever comes first, for the i3 REx. • Maintenance Frequency: Similar to the Volt, the i3’s range extender operates under consistent conditions and is used less frequently, which can result in reduced maintenance needs compared to conventional engines.

I like many here have a resi. But generally speaking I feel it’s better to let the bugs get worked out and hear real world reviews before buying any new products.

On the flip side , have there been any benefits to buying first gen cars other than getting it sooner?