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Was anyone else okay with Olivia’s abortion in season 5? I remember at the time the episode aired, fans and viewers were pissed. Religious fanatics were complaining that it was evil and devilish lol (completely disregarding that the entire relationship/affair itself was immoral).
Maybe it’s because I have a disdain for people who birth children into messy situations… but I was completely okay with Olivia having the abortion in season 5. This is a world where most of our characters are criminals and murderers. But somehow fans were more outraged by Olivia having an abortion lol. Let’s also remember that Olivia and Fitz were on the outs/about to break up when she had the abortion. So did people want Olivia to be a single mom? Did fans assume Olivia even wanted kids lol? Did people honestly think the baby would be safe in the twisted and dangerous world our characters live in? Idk I just thought the outrage from the fans by this decision was really over the top. I was okay with her decision and honestly felt it was the right one. And no, I don’t think she was obligated to let Fitz know. I’m curious what other people’s thoughts were on this?
Starting a rewatch here - Fitz never wanted to be president. Mellie pushed him to be greater. He’s so quick to give up or say “I’ll just resign” whenever a scandal happens.
Odd question but what is the last scene (season and episode) that Fitz and Cyrus appear in together?
I'm pushing through rewatch but my streaming subscription expires soon and I'm not renewing it!
Powerful outro scene from S5 E7…
“I don't think we're ever going to find him" is >!referring to Eli Pope, who was sprung from prison by a deal made by Olivia and himself!<. Her non-verbal acting here is fuckin smashing because she portrays contemplation on whether revealing what's actually happened is the smart move or not.
What made this so good to me was that it was immediately after Cyrus made remarks about >!not being the guy behind the girl behind the guy, but actually being the guy behind the GIRL - realising what a few have pointed out beforehand but only in passing, that Olivia is indeed in the driver seat and her influence is palpable whether or not she realises that!<.
Stellar acting from her, man.
FS full sets ni Izzy Pm na lang Po
This is the only enuguration I watched. Look at Fitz boo thang in the back.
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Kerry Washinton did a book tour in 2023 of her Book "Thicker than water", she did one in DC with Tony Goldwyn. The whole conversation was uploaded to YouTube but was deleted afterwords. does anyone have a copy of that video? help me please!
I mean Fitz and Mellie should have divorced years before but their rare sweet moments are really heartbreaking.
There are a few in S4 once they stop sniping at each other like when they visit Jerry's grave.
Also heartbreaking when, on the WH balcony, Mellie tells Fitz she thought they'd grow old together. 💔💯
Not cyrus eating popcorn in his pajamas and laughing while the white house burns without him 😂😂😂 God I love to hate him S5E5
Liv: I don't understand how I got here, where did I go wrong?
GIRL. Get real. You know how you got here. 🙄
I’m 8 minutes into the first episode and I had to pause to say it feels like they’re talking so quickly? I get it’s the pilot but there’s no pause between people responding to each other and those who are speaking are talking so quickly! I’ve been on meds for a flare up so I’m having difficulty focusing in general but especially at bedtime.
I watched htgawm when it was airing and never tried scandal before, I didn’t think it was interesting after id see a recap come on a few times after htgawm. I heard to give it a few episodes before deciding on committing.
Sidebar: I’ve been looking for a new show to watch. I couldn’t get into Hannibal or true detective. I love drama and all things horror (except possession/satanic I find dumb) so I’ll accept any recommendations.
I have no idea what the general consensus for the top 3 men are in the sub but here is my (possibly) controversial list (that doesn’t include fitz🫢):
Am I the only one fucking annoyed with season 6? everyone is treating Cyrus like some poor innocent old man.. okay yes he was framed THIS time. He did not murder Frankie Vargas.. But he quite literally had 3 innocent people murdered to get Frankie Vargas a national platform… yes okay, he didn’t assassinate the president.. but he did have 3 non presidential people murdered??? And that’s ONLY recently. The man is a maniac.
And the NERVE of him to be upset with Liv letting him potentially get the death penalty.. when he colluded with CIA intelligence to have Olivia MURDERED to prevent secrets from getting out .. when she was going to be sold to the highest bidder!!
I JUST CANT with this storyline!!
The way that Trump was able to initiate a TikTok ban and then swoop in like a savior and reap all the benefits of being the hero to save TikTok. Reminds me of the episode when cyrus staged the airplane hijacking, just to be the savior for everyone in that situation. Just like cyrus, trump will receive so much praise and his followers will become even more brainwashed as a result of this. They will continue to keep us divided. Unfortunately so, because people do not want to open their minds and see what's happening.
I'm rewatching scandal and I'm on season 3 episode 11, the one where Sally declares her run for presidency and towards the beginning Fitz and Olivia are making out in front of a window in the oval and when mellie aalks in they don't even move apart they just stop kissing and I do NOT remember them being so shameless in the earlier seasons.
I’m currently rewatching in full for the first time since the show originally aired! Forgot that SEASON 5 IS BEYOND MESSY!!! AND THE ACTING IS ELITE!! Wow, I cannot believe we were fortunate enough to watch this on national TV. It almost feels like a fever dream. From Liv in the White House to Eli Pope expressing fear. I love Season 1 but this might be my next favorite season. What about you all? Thoughts??
Honestly, Fitz reminds me so much of Ashley Wilkes in gone with the wind. Kinda “noble” and talks about being noble all the time, all the while being completely USELESS and needing a daring, strong woman to care to his needs and feed his ego. Has anyone else thought of this?
I'm a first time watcher on s5 and I can't stand b613 anymore. There's only so much I can believe. At the beginning B613 was a group of like 6 people, we even had that episode where Huck gets them all in one room, and now everytime they go back and create new things about it. What really gets me is that it is supposed to be this big thing and then they dismantle it with a few clicks on Huck's computer? They are all Trained Assassins but they are constantly being overpowered by other people? They ended B613 and brought it back to life so many times now, please let it go!!!!!
I hate his monologues, he is a terrible father, I don’t care if he’s right the way he talks to Olivia is horrible, he also symbolises why the show becomes weird. I have nothing but sympathy for Olivia and having that man as a dad is why she’s the way she is.
I don’t understand why people love this character.
Currently doing a rewatch
Fitz is useless He couldn’t win the presidency himself and it’s funny as I’m re-watching knowing that they rigged it for him and how he tries to order them all about as if he wanted himself. Granted he did not know that they rigged it but he’s just so arrogant.
Also, I know this must be mentioned 1 million times but the way he treats Mellie it’s so deplorable. I’m surprised she didn’t kill him. I also I’m quite disappointed in Olivia and her deciding to actually engage an affair with him because she’s an accomplished woman. She actually wins that thing she actually gets things done and she allowed herself to be swindled by the man that she had to fix a presidency for. I’m glad her dad dragged her because that was really disappointing.
This probably comes as no surprise but I love Fitz and I wanna see more of Tony Goldwyn in movies/ tv shows. Does anyone have any recommendations? I already watched him in The Hot Zone (he made me sympathise with a serial killer 😭😭😭), Law and Order, the Belko experiment, Conviction, All I Wish, Joshua and I'm about to watch Ghost. Pls help everyone 😭😭😭
Just rewatched it. The Cyrus and James flashbacks were so sweet and Jake staying with James until it's over.....insane. Also, Jake looks hot in this ep but I'm still #olitz 💯
On a rewatch and ethan just makes me laugh in every scene he’s in. I love leo as a character too but he especially kills me when he gets worked up
does anyone remember the balenciaga scandal a couple years ago? i swear it was because they were selling sex dolls that looked like children but now when i look it up all i can find are things talking about the ad they put out with children and bdsm stuff.
I really hate the way fitz treats Abby over season 5 especially after him and Olivia break up, he’s such a dick
This is what gives me hope that Vermont actually happens. Liv becoming command was wrong on so many levels because she had enough power on her own so she was being greedy and she let power consume her. The fact that Fitz didn’t turn her away when she was finally ready to be better was everything! This man stood by her and gave her everything she needed without asking any questions. He gave her hard truths and most importantly, he helped her see that she was still in there. That she just had to work really hard to see herself the way he sees her. Their back and forth in the early seasons became annoying because everyone was trying to keep them apart. Them out of the White House was everything. I think season 7 is when it finally clicked for Liv that nothing she’ll ever do will change the fact that he is in love with her and she stopped fighting it.
Also they only say “Hi” when they are on flirty terms with each other so that closing scene was confirmation that they end up together. In seasons 1-6, Liv always had a backup man for when her and Fitz were fighting (Edison, Jake, that other B613 guy and the reporter). She basically always had one foot out the door and I’m not sure if I want to blame it on her parental issues. Fitz forcing her into the White House didn’t help either because he was punishing her for going behind his back. He handled it wrong and made her feel like going all in would strip her of her power but we all know Fitz would have given her whatever she wanted to make her comfortable. From 7x12 onwards, Fitz is the only man in her life and for the first time ever, she’s actually trying to make it work and build a healthy relationship with him. They both calm down so much and it’s not about what they do for each other anymore but how they love and support each other. There is no more judgment or blame, just pure understanding and compassion.
After everything that happened to them both, they deserve to be happy with each other. Liv saying she would cross that line again in 7x14 is what reopened the door into the best version of their relationship and I love it
What's with Hal? Was he in love with Mellie. Always snitching on Olitz!
Who do you guys think got a fair ending? The only character I’m satisfied with is Mellie and Quinn