I have seen sensationalist claims being made surrounding BLC-1 lately coming from an online UFO enthusiast and former media studies lecturer who claims to have been in contact with Andrew Siemion (the head of Breakthrough Listen’s Oxford hub), and that Siemion has indicated that new studies of BLC-1 are underway looking into the possibility of BLC-1 having originated from a moving and rotating object rather than being an interference event

Additional claims I have seen made elsewhere are that ASTRON and JIVE (a Dutch radio astronomy organisation and a European Union VLBI telescope network), using new filtering technology, have found evidence of extremely weak and Doppler shifted radio signals coming from the direction of BLC-1’s discovery that resemble EM leakage, with findings being prepared for preprint publication

I can’t find anything to substantiate either of these claims and I doubt either ASTRON or JIVE would respond if contacted to ask about this, so I’m hoping somebody here has better insight into the rumours going around right now

I'm interested to hear what people here think about the Dark Forest solution to the Fermi Paradox? It doesn't seem like a very popular solution, but it seems really reasonable to me -if unsatisfying.

If you are unaware, the Dark Forest solution is that there are in fact millions and millions of civilizations in the universe, but none of them are dumb enough to broadcast their existence to the universe. If there are millions of civilizations, then odds are good that at least some of them are very violent, and a smaller but non-zero percentage is extremely violent. As soon as a civilization makes itself known to the universe, many other violent civilizations immediately start making plans to completely destroy that civilization (think, Independence Day or Mars Attacks). Therefor, we look up at the night sky and see and hear nothing because everyone that hasn't been destroyed already is in deep hiding.

Article Link: https://zenodo.org/records/13619107 Abstract: In this study, the results of the application of the search technique for SETI signals or extraterrestrial technical signatures known as “Doppler Drift” are collected on the radio data files obtained by the Green Bank Radio Telescope when observing the star HIP 45383 and made available to the general public through the Breakthrough Listen initiative. The content of these files
will be displayed in waterfall graphs using Python programming and specialized libraries such as
blimpy developed specifically for the analysis of Breakthrough Listen files.

Article Link:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.08313

Abstract:

Planet-planet occultations (PPOs) occur when one exoplanet occults another exoplanet in the same system as seen from the Earth's vantage point. PPOs may provide a unique opportunity to observe radio "spillover" from extraterrestrial intelligences' (ETIs) radio transmissions or radar being transmitted from the further exoplanet towards the nearer one for the purposes of communication or scientific exploration. Planetary systems with many tightly packed, low-inclination planets, such as TRAPPIST-1, are predicted to have frequent PPOs. Here, the narrowband technosignature search code turboSETI was used in combination with the newly developed NbeamAnalysis filtering pipeline to analyze 28 hours of beamformed data taken with the Allen Telescope Array (ATA) during late October and early November 2022, from 0.9--9.3~GHz, targeting TRAPPIST-1. During this observing window, 7 possible PPO events were predicted using the NbodyGradient code. The filtering pipeline reduced the original list of 25 million candidate signals down to 6 million by rejecting signals that were not sky-localized and, from these, identified a final list of 11127 candidate signals above a power law cutoff designed to segregate signals by their attenuation and morphological similarity between beams. All signals were plotted for visual inspection, 2264 of which were found to occur during PPO windows. We report no detection of signals of non-human origin, with upper limits calculated for each PPO event exceeding EIRPs of 2.17--13.3 TW for minimally drifting signals and 40.8--421 TW in the maximally drifting case. This work constitutes the longest single-target radio SETI search of TRAPPIST-1 to date.

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2024RNAAS...8..200L/abstract

"I show that Hawking radiation from a mini black hole with a mass of ∼10^(11) g in a low orbit around an otherwise frozen rogue planet, can supply the energy needs of a civilization on the surface of the planet. Maintaining this furnace for more than a few years requires a modest accretion rate of ∼2 kg s^(‑1). The associated technosignature is detectable as a gamma-ray source occulted by a warm planet every 1–2 hr, with no stellar-mass companion."

Article Link:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.08513

Abstract:

The Ohio State University Big Ear radio telescope detected in 1977 the Wow! Signal, one of the most famous and intriguing signals of extraterrestrial origin. Arecibo Wow! is a new project that aims to find similar signals in archived data from the Arecibo Observatory. From 2017 to 2020, we observed many targets of interest at 1 to 10 GHz with the 305-meter telescope. Here we present our first results of drift scans made between February and May 2020 at 1420 MHz. The methods, frequency, and bandwidth of these observations are similar to those used to detect the Wow! Signal. However, our observations are more sensitive, have better temporal resolution, and include polarization measurements.

We report the detection of narrowband signals (10 kHz) near the hydrogen line similar to the Wow! Signal, although two-orders of magnitude less intense and in multiple locations. Despite the similarities, these signals are easily identifiable as due to interstellar clouds of cold hydrogen (HI) in the galaxy. We hypothesize that the Wow! Signal was caused by sudden brightening from stimulated emission of the hydrogen line due to a strong transient radiation source, such as a magnetar flare or a soft gamma repeater (SGR). These are very rare events that depend on special conditions and alignments, where these clouds might become much brighter for seconds to minutes. The original source or the cloud might not be detectable, depending on the sensitivity of the telescope. The precise location of the Wow! Signal might be determined by searching for transient radio sources behind the cold hydrogen clouds in the corresponding region.
Our hypothesis explains all observed properties of the Wow! Signal, proposes a new source of false positives in technosignature searches, and suggests that the Wow! Signal could be the first recorded event of an astronomical maser flare in the hydrogen line.

Article Link:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.00067

Abstract:

This study uses methods from futures studies to develop a set of ten self-consistent scenarios for Earth's 1000-year future, which can serve as examples for defining technosignature search strategies. We apply a novel worldbuilding pipeline that evaluates the dimensions of human needs in each scenario as a basis for defining the observable properties of the technosphere. Our scenarios include three with zero-growth stability, two that have collapsed into a stable state, one that oscillates between growth and collapse, and four that continue to grow. Only one scenario includes rapid growth that could lead to interstellar expansion. We examine absorption spectral features for a few scenarios to illustrate that nitrogen dioxide can serve as a technosignature to distinguish between present-day Earth, pre-agricultural Earth, and an industrial 1000-year future Earth. Three of our scenarios are spectrally indistinguishable from pre-agricultural Earth, even though these scenarios include expansive technospheres. Up to nine of these scenarios could represent steady-state examples that could persist for much longer timescales, and it remains possible that short-duration technospheres could be the most abundant. Our scenario set provides the basis for further systematic thinking about technosignature detection as well as for imagining a broad range of possibilities for Earth's future.

What do you think will happen if we get a radio wave (let's stick to radio waves) from another civilisation? Sooner or later religious groups, mentally unstable individuals, various teams serving their own agenda will try to setup powerful transmitters to send their own message. What the implications might be? How can these people be stopped? They will literally, holistically, unaware transmit this message if you think of it: "we cannot save ourselves".

To add to the equally terrifying possibilities of being alone or not, I want to add another one. It terrifies me what "others" might think of us.

I recently read "Contact" by Carl Sagan, and it left me fascinated by the idea of communicating with extraterrestrial civilizations.

The Arecibo Message, which plays a significant role in the book, sparked my curiosity, and I couldn’t help but dive deeper into the science behind it. Inspired by this, I’ve written an article exploring the Arecibo Message and its profound implications for interstellar communication.

https://blog.ayushman.dev/case-study/decoding_the_arecibo_message

If you're a fellow space geek or just love thinking about the unknown, take a look and let me know what you think! 👽✨

https://preview.redd.it/nefo1w29zsnd1.png?width=1232&format=png&auto=webp&s=c58400373057cbc4adea52f34969f05d128051a4

https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0506110

I find it updated in the latest developments of biology, computing and SETI considerations where the authors propose the migration of advanced civilizations to the outskirts of the Galaxy for computational stability reasons. Also the Intelligence Principle is adopted (from Dick, which finds me 100% in agreement) which paves the way for advanced civilizations to evolve into postbiological entities.

What I'd like to see but didn't is the advent of AI as propeller force and what is actually the goal for a super advanced civilization. Maximizing computing efficiency to what end? Pleasure of the entities? Understanding underlying principles of the universe? Modifying existing properties of the universe?

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-4357/ad6b11

It's galactic search in a low frequency, not hydrogen line. Setting upper limits , the usual.

(answering my own past post) - updating frequently

1. Zooniverse from UCLA is alive although funding is kind of limited. I just donated a small amount. There is a classification ML algorithm that still needs public help.

https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/ucla-seti-group/are-we-alone-in-the-universe/about/faq

2. People from UCLA, actually Professor Margot's team is running the codes for the above. They produce papers though, latest was in 2023:

https://seti.ucla.edu/wp/publications/ "A Search for Technosignatures Around 11,680 Stars with the Green Bank Telescope at 1.15–1.73 GHz"

Check their newsletter as well where they mention the relative difficulty of funding and employ / accept more people.

3. SETI search with alternative radio frequencies, Oct 2023 from a European team:

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/acf9f5

Not sure about how ET civilization will choose these frequencies though but doesn't hurt to search.

4. Old site of SETI at home, discontinued:

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ Interesting to check the latest posts by the people who ran it. Lots of emotion hidden imho.

5. Another search for technosignatures, 2023

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-022-01872-z

6. Technosignatures overview from a 2020 meeting along with a concise white paper from another collaboration:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094576522002594

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336675505_Searches_for_Technosignatures_The_State_of_the_Profession

7. Arxiv "technosignatures" paper search:

https://www.arxiv.org/search/advanced?advanced=1&terms-0-operator=AND&terms-0-term=Technosignatures+&terms-0-field=title&classification-physics_archives=all&classification-include_cross_list=include&date-filter_by=all_dates&date-year=&date-from_date=&date-to_date=&date-date_type=submitted_date&abstracts=show&size=50&order=-announced_date_first

8. SETI keyword on arxiv:

https://www.arxiv.org/search/advanced?advanced=1&terms-0-operator=AND&terms-0-term=Seti&terms-0-field=title&classification-physics_archives=all&classification-include_cross_list=include&date-filter_by=all_dates&date-year=&date-from_date=&date-to_date=&date-date_type=submitted_date&abstracts=show&size=50&order=-announced_date_first

https://seti.news/ was having a list of curated papers intended for academia. Unfortunately last mailing was in 2023.

10. This post couldn't be complete without mentioning the Breakthrough Listen initiative:

https://breakthroughinitiatives.org/initiative/1 Really worth reading about it, seems that it constitutes one of the most serious efforts for SETI so far. Funded by the foundation established by Yuri and Julia Milner plus Marc Zuckerberg.

I think the field is alive and well. And always in need of more people, ML, data and money.

So recent studies have suggested that our galaxy is technically in a void, not like a bootes void scenario but in an area where theres strangely not as many galaxies as there should be. If we were to use that as a base for searching for sentient life then shouldnt we look out for other voids as well?

I had a look recently at the disappointed last running member posts in Berkeley SETI website, it ended in 2022 and post processing during 2023. Some data might have been lost for ever.

Zooniverse asks for manual classification unless they do that to train their algorithms, same situation last time I visited.

Any ongoing attempt in the deeper question we, as a species, can ask?

And how long would it take for a terrestrial response to get from Earth to the location the Wow! signal came from?

There are so many differences of opinion about the topic. I've tried to summarize the spectrum. Note, I am interested in people's position on the plausibility based only on prior knowledge. In other words, answers like: we would have observed them already are not relevant to the question. So what do you think?

A. Interstellar travel is against the laws of physics and therefor impossible.

B. Interstellar travel is impossible according to the known laws of physics, but new physics might make it possible.

C. Interstellar travel might be possible in theory, but is so infeasible in practice that it will never happen.

D. Interstellar travel is technically feasible enough to happen in very rare cases, but I still think, due to practical constraints, it will almost certainly never happen to or from our own solar system and another.

E. Feasibility is not really a limiting factor, its just that it would be unlikely for another civilization to choose to visit our solar system, out of all of the others they could choose from.

F. Even if an extraterrestrial civ. could send probes here, they almost certainly wouldn't, because there is not a big enough incentive for them to.

G. It is reasonably likely that an extraterrestrial intelligence would send probes to our solar system, but unlikely to ever happen coincident in time with human technological civilization, so we would almost certainty not encounter them.

H. There would likely have been lots of probes sent here, but they would not be functional by now. There is a small chance we might find one.

I. There would likely be very old and maybe even still functional probes around, and if we look hard enough, we will probably find one.

J. Our solar system should be teaming with functioning extraterrestrial probes unless intelligent life is extremely rare, or we are alone in the universe.

K. It is plausible that even biological visitors could come here, but it would be a one way trip.

L. It is plausible that biological visitors could come and go between solar systems.

M. The question is too controversial, I would like to keep my stance on it private.

N. None of the answers above are a close match to my position.

As discussed in my last post, Radwave Engine allows users to download data from Breakthrough Listen's Open Data Archive, and process it with the frequency resolution that they are interested in. Then with Radwave Explorer, that user can interactively look through the data that they processed on their machine.

In this video, we build upon that concept, but show how Radwave Engine users can serve data they processed for other Radwave Explorer users to look at. This effectively decentralizes the data, providing efficiency gains, and enabling more people to look at the data.

https://youtu.be/2etHqCQzhao?si=eJvoOW4D3sMs9-dy

Alpha testing is still open, and more people are welcome to join. Critical feedback is the best way to learn how to improve, so I really look forward to hearing from you about what could be better. Please visit this page to get links to tutorials, downloads, and our Discord channel:

https://www.radwave.com/blog/alpha-release-of-radwave-engine-explorer/

Video: https://youtu.be/VkEGvmfd8dI?si=TK4gcmcwDyPTcI35

Link to first study: https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.18941

Link to second: https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.02927

Is it true that the famous "Wow!" signal was only one of many loud, narrowband, unrepeated transmissions received by SETI scientists?

The second step to digging into the Breakthrough Listen data is processing the data from the Open Data Archive. The baseband data has the most flexibility for processing, but the files are quite large, and the GUPPI format can be challenging to handle. In this video, I go into some detail on how window sizes (FFT sizes) play a critical role in the content that is visible in the spectrum, as well as how SETI@Home and Breakthrough Listen differ from a distributed computing perspective:

https://youtu.be/g8EUaibV-v0

Code used in the video is located here:

https://github.com/radwave/oda_meta_scraper

The type of spectrogram and power spectral density processing shown in the video is conceptually the same as what the Radwave Engine uses. But the Engine and Explorer apps in tandem make it possible to quickly navigate the large volume of data generated (typically 60+ GB per GUPPI file) that's simply too large for common tools to handle.

A big thank you to the alpha testers who've joined! The feedback has been tremendous for getting some early kinks worked out. I'd love to get a few more testers before making this generally available.

https://www.radwave.com/blog/alpha-release-of-radwave-engine-explorer/

Surprised I don’t see much people talking about this irl. If DMS is confirmed, wouldn’t this basically mean this is an inhabited ocean world?

So occasionally I read about GRBs blasting past us and I remember GRB 221009A lit up our ionosphere a few years ago. We know about supernovae that weren't close enough to do damage, and it got me wondering. And it might be silly wondering.

Has anyone made a map of the night sky where life is no longer likely due to all the dangerous things exploding and consuming up there?

Would someone knowledgeable mind predicting how long we'll have to wait?

So James Webb found some interesting signatures from K2-18b but it doesn't really prove anything.
The Nancy Grace Roman telescope will launch in 2027 - but is this anymore likely to detect signs of life or industrial civilisations?

There's various detectors listening for radio signals, but unless there's a big development that will vastly improve reception, I assume we have no more reason to expect to get a message any time soon.

In a few decades with better propulsion we might be able to get something to the solar gravitational lense and image some exoplanets (can you image numerous exoplanets from there, or do you have to be at further distances to image planets in further systems?), and perhaps see signs of photosynthetic organisms or even a large civilization.

Breakthrough starshot might be able to get probes to a few nearby star systems but that'll take decades to build and send.

And obviously the Titan Dragonfly in 2034 and eventual exploration of the oceans of the icy moons (so long as we get a clip of a giant shark swallowing the rover the moment it gets under the ice, i'll be happy)

Is there anything that might come sooner?

sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, I'm banned from the obvious sub to post this in

The first step to digging into the Breakthrough Listen data is downloading data from the Open Data Archive. However, there are some caveats with knowing which files are actually adjacent in time. This video details how to go about this process:
https://youtu.be/Ew7BnYWXJhU

The code for all of it is located here:
https://github.com/radwave/oda_meta_scraper

There are three main steps:

1. scraping the open data archive web page,
2. downloading and parsing the GUPPI headers, and
3. calculating a precise start time for the GUPPI files

As shown in the video, the resulting metadata forms the basis of the Radwave Engine user interface. Alpha testers are still welcome to join.

Greetings, positing a question: Since all life as we know it is comprised of energy, at the most basic atomic level... should we consider that planetary bodies with iron-nickel cores (such as Earth's) and a resultant magnetosphere would be most likely to attract enough energy to produce sapient life forms?

I've created a pair of Windows app for processing and interactively exploring data from Breakthrough Listen, which is the largest ever scientific research program aimed at finding evidence of civilizations beyond Earth. I'm currently looking for some Windows alpha testers. Alpha testing is open to anyone, where the only requirement is subscribing to my blog so that you'll be notified of updates. I plan to make this generally available once I can get to the point where I have positive feedback from about 10 alpha testers. You can find all the details here:

https://www.radwave.com/blog/alpha-release-of-radwave-engine-explorer/

Is it true that it stopped after this signal received? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHGb02%2B14a

Hello SETI subreddit. I’m in STEM, but totally have nothing to do with astronomy. I’ve always been interested by SETI. I was wondering, where are we at now, scientifically speaking? What are the leading people in this field currently doing?

Upcoming AMA with NASA Friday, March 8th 2024 : explainlikeimfive (reddit.com)

From the ELI5 mod team that may be of interest:

Greetings everyone!

We are extremely excited to announce that we'll be holding an AMA with Dr. Lori Glaze, Director of NASA's Planetary Science Division this Friday, March 8th 2024 from 3:00 - 4:00 PM EST.

For more information on Dr. Glaze please refer to the following link: https://science.nasa.gov/people/lori-s-glaze/

Given Lori's expertise they are requesting that the questions be framed specifically around planets and moons if at all possible.

The AMA thread will be posted at approximately 11:00 AM EST so folks can begin submitting their questions.

Remember, as always here at r/explainlikeimfive, rule 1 applies!

Thank you and looking forward to an excellent AMA this Friday!

Article Link:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.11037

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Abstract:

The SETI Ellipsoid is a strategy for technosignature candidate selection which assumes that extraterrestrial civilizations who have observed a galactic-scale event -- such as supernova 1987A -- may use it as a Schelling point to broadcast synchronized signals indicating their presence. Continuous wide-field surveys of the sky offer a powerful new opportunity to look for these signals, compensating for the uncertainty in their estimated time of arrival. We explore sources in the TESS continuous viewing zone, which corresponds to 5% of all TESS data, observed during the first three years of the mission. Using improved 3D locations for stars from Gaia Early Data Release 3, we identified 32 SN 1987A SETI Ellipsoid targets in the TESS continuous viewing zone with uncertainties better than 0.5 ly. We examined the TESS light curves of these stars during the Ellipsoid crossing event and found no anomalous signatures. We discuss ways to expand this methodology to other surveys, more targets, and different potential signal types.