Title, with a recent upset for the history books in Gen.G vs KCP at worlds, I was thinking how does it rank among the rest of the greatest upsets our esport has to offer?

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Stage 1

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Grand Final

When Gen.G acquired Firstkiller in place of Noly, there was debate in this sub regarding which team was the best in NA. There was a pretty big split between Gen.G and G2 because, on paper, these were both extremely talented teams with accomplished players.

In Split 1 of the 2024 RLCS Season, Gen.G didn't live up to their expectations, but they still had a solid showing:

• NA Open Qualifier 1: 2nd place
• NA Open Qualifier 2: 3rd/4th place
• NA Open Qualifier 3: 1st place
• Major 1 (Copenhagen): 5th/8th place

They played consistently in NA, and had a decent showing at the major. They got a win over G2 in Swiss and were later eliminated in game 7 by the eventual champions (Gentle Mates).

After a strong start to Split 2, winning NA Open Qualifier 4, things started to go downhill for Gen.G. They were eliminated by OG (2-4) in Open Qualifier 5 and Moist Esports (1-4) in Open Qualifier 6. These were teams that most fans thought shouldn't even have had a chance against Gen.G.

• NA Open Qualifier 4: 1st place
• NA Open Qualifier 5: 5th/8th place
• NA Open Qualifier 6: 5th/8th place
• Major 2 (London): 5th/8th place

Major 2 didn't look much better for Gen.G. They finished 3-2 in Swiss, only taking down teams that didn't make the top 8 (Team Secret, Oxygen, and PWR). They proceeded to get eliminated 1-4 by the Falcons in the quarterfinals.

At this point, it's fair to say Gen.G had a disappointing season. Other than their two NA Open Qualifier wins, they didn't achieve many notable results that many expected from a roster like this.

However, their world championship run is, in my opinion, what turned this from a "disappointing season" to "arguably the most disappointing roster in RLCS history".

• World Championship: 12th/14th place

I'm sure most of us don't even need a recap of this. Gen.G went 1-3 in Swiss, with losses to PWR, BDS, and Pioneers. Their only win was against Limitless, a team that didn't get a single LAN win in 2024. Not only that, but Gen.G looked terrible in their games.

So, was this the most disappointing roster in RLCS history?

Reasons why it was:

1. Expectations were through the roof for this team. Many of us considered them to be genuine worlds contenders at the start of the season. So even an "OK" season overall is much worse than what most people would have predicted. Sure, you can say "it was unreasonable to have such high expectations for this team," which is easy to say in retrospect, but the fact is that most fans did have high expectations
2. Their mediocre run spanned almost the entire season, rather than just one tournament
3. Their results were notably worse than each individual players' results in seasons prior to this
4. When I say "most disappointing roster," I am referring to the roster's entire run together. So you can say teams like iBP Season 2, NRG 2022-2023, or BDS in fall/winter 2022-2023 were disappointing, but each of these rosters previously had success together. 2024 Gen.G, on the other hand, never reached a notable "peak"

Reasons why it wasn't:

1. They had a series of strong placements in Split 1, only getting eliminated by G2
2. They had a few wins over G2 and won two regionals
3. Their only truly devastating performance was at the world championship

What do you all think? If Gen.G wasn't the most disappointing roster in RLCS history, who was? My honorable mentions:

• Team EnVyUs (Remkoe, Deevo, Greazy, RLCS S4 EU)
• compLexity Gaming (Mognus, al0t, Greazy, RLCS S6 EU)

https://liquipedia.net/rocketleague/JohnnyBoi_i/The_Salt_Mine_4/Europe

Schedule:

• Shadi vs Mawkzy: 6pm UTC / 7pm CET / 1pm EST
• Rw9 vs Joreuz: 7pm UTC / 8pm CET / 2pm EST
• (Semi-final) Nass vs TBD: 8pm UTC / 9pm CET / 3pm EST
• (Semi-final) Atow vs TBD: 9pm UTC / 10pm CET / 4pm EST
• (Grand final) TBD vs TBD: 10pm UTC / 11pm CET / 5pm EST

Broadcasts:

• Main & English: https://www.twitch.tv/johnnyboi_i
• French: https://www.twitch.tv/rocketbaguette
• Spanish: https://www.twitch.tv/sinfrenosleague

This post is a quick analysis of the amount of days on LAN there have been for S-tier and A-tier tournaments per year.

To determine what tournaments to include, I used the liquipedia tournament page [https://liquipedia.net/rocketleague/Portal:Tournaments\], and used their rankings on S and A tier tournaments, only including LANs. I did exclude some of the A tier LANs as GFinity, because some of those lasted for over a month and were skewing results. I also set a minimum prize pool of $25,000 for A-tier LANs.

lan days per year

The above graph shows the total days on LAN for RL, with the total prize pool included. The total days on LAN went up pretty substantially in 2022 and 2023. The A-tier events post-COVID have been carried by the Saudi Arabian events, with Saudi events making up 4 of the 5 A-tier events post covid. These events also lasted quite long compared to other LANs, with some of the Saudia eLeague events being over 10 days long.

S-tier events have also gone up post-COVID, which makes sense with the new RLCS format. The new World Championship format also lasts longer compared to post COVID, with more teams competing.

However, this doesn't really tell the full story. The average number of days per LAN has been going up, so when you just look at the number of LANs, you get a different and IMO fairer view on the state of LANs.

lans per year

I think the main takeaways from this graph are:

1. RLCS majors make up a much bigger proportion of LANs since League Play
2. Despite prize pools going significantly up per LAN, the total number of LANs is mostly the same (if not going down).

Data if you're interested.

TLDR: The total number of LAN events has mostly stayed the same since the League Play era, with LANs typically being longer and having a bigger prize pool. RLCS Majors make up a higher percentage of LANs compared to the League play era.

https://liquipedia.net/rocketleague/JohnnyBoi_i/The_Salt_Mine_4/Europe

Schedule:

• Tempoh vs Joreuz: 6pm UTC / 7pm CET / 1pm EST
• Nass vs Rw9: 7pm UTC / 8pm CET / 2pm EST
• Atow vs Shad: 8pm UTC / 9pm CET / 3pm EST
• Rezears vs Mawkzy: 9pm UTC / 10pm CET / 4pm EST

Broadcasts:

• Main & English: https://www.twitch.tv/johnnyboi_i
• French: https://www.twitch.tv/rocketbaguette
• Spanish: https://www.twitch.tv/sinfrenosleague

https://liquipedia.net/rocketleague/JohnnyBoi_i/The_Salt_Mine_4/Europe

Schedule:

• Nass vs Rezears: 6pm UTC / 7pm CET / 1pm EST
• Mawkzy vs Rw9: 7pm UTC / 8pm CET / 2pm EST
• Atow vs Tempoh: 8pm UTC / 9pm CET / 3pm EST
• Joreuz vs Shadi: 9pm UTC / 10pm CET / 4pm EST

Broadcasts:

• Main & English: https://www.twitch.tv/johnnyboi_i
• French: https://www.twitch.tv/rocketbaguette
• Spanish: https://www.twitch.tv/sinfrenosleague

Anyone here on a college esports team and if so, what's your experience with it?

I didn't pay any attention to rl esports after worlds. For people who did, what was your impression of the off season tournaments? Were they good or bad? Worth watching or not?