I rewatched 3x19 today and the moment at the end with Toni turning on Betty and Edgar trying to get Betty to stay with the farm falls so flat because Veronica, Jughead and Archie haven't joined the farm.

Edgar tries to do the whole 'everyone you love is here' but they're not, I especially laughed when he goes "Your best friend, Kevin, is here' because Archie and Veronica are Betty's best friends over him.

• THEY CHANGED REGGIES ACTOR HOW DID I NEVER NOTICE THIS???

• Betty has 3 piercings on her ears

• We see a photo of younger Jellybean and Jughead

• Jason has blue eyes while Cheryl has brown

• Veronica is actually really nice, she truly cares abt everyone.

• Hals eyes are VERY blue, not green

• Moose is lowkey a bitch

• Archie’s eyebrows r literally 50 different shades of brown/red

• When Cheryl is about to commit she isn’t wearing any red

• Toni commented on Chuck’s sticky maple post abt Veronica

• Cheryl has lots of posters of women in.. certain poses in her room

• Alice definitely always knew or at least had the idea that the Blossoms killed Jason. She mentions it like 5 times

Okay so I loveeee riverdale, one of my favorite shows.. but i just can’t get into season 7 I can’t get into the storylines or anything. It’s throwing me off but do yall think I should stick it out and watch the whole season bc it’s worth it or should I just watch the last episode of the season to feel complete?? I don’t wanna just skip episodes that feels disrespectful lmao

When Riverdale first appeared on Netflix in the UK, it seemed like everyone on Twitter was talking about this show. There was a lot of hype around S1, but I only managed a few episodes before deciding not to continue - there was just something about it that didn’t grab me at the time.

Recently, over 7 years after it first aired, I decided to give it another go. Some of my favourites shows started with me turning them off early on, only to revisit them later and fall in love with them - and that’s exactly what happened with Riverdale.

I’ve seen all the memes over the years, the out of context clips, the discourse surrounding how badly the show deteriorated over the seasons, so my expectations were low. But that only left more room to be pleasantly surprised.

I thoroughly enjoyed the first 4 seasons. I think each season has something to offer whilst still feeling very distinctly Riverdale. I have my critiques and irks of course, but I went into watching this show knowing it was completely ridiculous. So when you stop expecting it to be something it’s not, you can just sit back and enjoy the chaos! I laughed so much watching the first few seasons, and genuinely liked the way the stories unfolded. I may have sometimes been confused or frustrated or bamboozled, but I was never bored!

Season 5 had some highlights and a lot of potential, but I definitely found myself running out of steam with this one. It felt a lot more disjointed and like the writers weren’t sure what to do with some of the characters anymore.

Then came Season 6. The OG marmite season (before S7). I had heard and read so much about people’s opinions on this season, and I knew there was an introduction of superpowers. After thoroughly enjoying the majority of storylines and themes in Riverdale so far, I genuinely did not think I was going to like S6 at all - I definitely thought I’d be agreeing with the people who hated it. I watched S6E1 with this in mind, and thought, yep this is where my Riverdale journey ends. But I pushed through to episode 2…

Tell me why S6 has become of one my favourite seasons! I thought it was such a fresh direction for Riverdale to go in and I loved it! Rivervale, the Jughead Paradox, Lou Cypher - I was ENTERTAINED! I loved Pickens as a villain, thoroughly enjoyed Tabitha in this season, and just loved so many of the choices made. Because Riverdale is such a batshit insane show anyway, going in this direction felt almost inevitable (or at least natural). I would’ve happily watched another season with this kind of theme.

Unfortunately I couldn’t get on board with S7 being stuck in the 50s. I loved the idea of Jughead being the only one who could remember life before the time jump, but they quickly eliminated that which felt like huge wasted potential. I wish they would’ve found a way to bring it back to present day, as although the final episode was lovely, there was no closure to the characters’ stories we spent 6 seasons getting invested in.

Overall though, Riverdale was a huge pleasant surprise and I’m glad I didn’t miss out on it. Will definitely rewatch at some point in the future.

She abandoned Alice and Betty because of the Black Hood being on the loose, so she didn't actually suffer the same way Alice and Betty did when it comes to their husband/father trying to kill them in their living room but Polly comes back once Hal is in prison and tries to school Betty and Alice on how they should all deal with the trauma of Hal being the Black Hood.

Then when Polly gets Alice involved with the Farm she acts like she's daughter of the year and looks down on Betty.

Not saying Polly didn't have her own trauma but I can't stand how she acts like she's above Betty.

Just some thoughts from my rewatch.

Im NOT liking this season so far and especially this percival plot but there are some silver linings here:

• Sorceress Cheryl I love this new role cheryl took, she seems more zen and wiser than ever before, the blossoms subplot proved to be more entertaining than i thought, even in Rivervale's reality

• Rivervale Although it's a thin veil that's very clearly intended to hide the writers' inability to come up with a good idea for season 6 in time for their deadline, i really enjoyed that horror-focused timeline, Riverdale has a very fun history of paying homage to horror and id like to put it under the macabre category since every single season deals with a very dark themes, and this felt like a full on horror mini series of riverdale. Had fun through it and Jug's exposition scene was insanely fun, i loved the Pop heaven set and it was honestly not too jarring of a plot given everything thats been happening on the show.

Hey everyone!! Wondering if you could help me find something that Betty and Veronica might’ve been wearing in s7.

It’s been a while since I finished s7 but I think I recall scenes with Betty and Veronica having a sleepover and this is when they kiss??? Anyways my roommate and I binged all 7 seasons together so I thought a good Christmas gift would be matching pajamas that match B & V hahaha. If anyone knows which episode I’m talking about let me know please

Wow. Just finished the last episode.

Riverdale was such a great show (>!although season seven left A LOT to be desired, imo!<), but now I'm at a loss of what to binge next.

I need to know from fellow fans; after finishing the last episode, what show reminds you of the same experience of watching Riverdale for the first time? What series gripped you as much as Riverdale did?

Riverdale was so captivating to me up until season 6 where TBK came in to play…. I’m just so confused on how this show is playing out it’s not making sense… the 5 years to the future thing messed up the entire dynamic of the show..: at one point I didn’t know if the character were themselves or another character from the new world they kept exploring … I don’t know just very cringe and I’m trying my best to keep up and finish the series …sigh…..

Im on episode 6 of season one and it's my first time watching.

What are some of the biggest or most annoying plot holes in any season?

I recently watched Riverdale for the first time (yes I know very late to the party) so I already knew a lot of the reveals going into it, such as the identity of the Black Hood.

I’m curious for people who watched it when it aired / without knowing spoilers - was the reveal of who the Black Hood was a shock, or did you see it coming? Was it a satisfying reveal, or disappointing?

This is a similar post to the one that I posted about Marty Mantle not really getting any comeuppance for the way that he treated Reggie (it's also implied that he used to beat his wife, as well).

But considering that Marty was a very bad domestic abuser (I mean, he was a bad person but I mean he wasn't even trying to put on a façade of being a good person, he was just berating and slapping Reggie around in front of the entire Bulldogs team) and that even people like Mr Honey knew about the abuse and they did absolutely nothing.

It's also insane that in the Hiram Lodge backstory episode, Hiram was like "You need to be closer with your father" despite the fact that in the flashback, Mustached Mark Consuello's (Hiram's father) was shown to be a caring and loving person while Marty was the exact opposite.

It's just insane that everyone in the town seems to know about how abusive Reggie's father is and they just seem like they couldn't give any less of a shit about it.

Basically the title but which character, when introduced, made the show worse/changed the trajectory? For example, I think when Hiram, Chic, the Evernevers, and Percivel made their appearances, the show lost aura points.

What are some characters you feel this way about?

There’s many MANY moments that left me saying ‘wtf js happened..’ but I’d have to be a tie between:

Cheryl’s Suicide Attempt

&

Before/After the Comet was destroyed

I remember when this series was first announced and their plans for it my initial reaction was "oh god, why??", and thinking the series will never last. Then being surprised every time I saw it being advertised year after year. I don't remember when it ended up on my list of things to check out but it had been sitting on that list for awhile.

I won't say the series was better than I was expecting even though I went in with low expectations, but I will say the show was more entertaining than I was expecting. I would hold this show up as an example of something not needing to be "good" for it to still be fun. I know that's a bit of a backhanded compliment, but the takeaway here is I did enjoy the show for what it was.

I liked the first season the best because it had a very tightly told story with almost no wasted moments. The second season could've been really fantastic were it not for the giant blunder at the finish line by making Hal the Black Hood Killer out of nowhere. Season 3 had me wondering where they were going with the story and going back and forth on whether or not I believed there was a real supernatural element. I didn't believe for a second they killed Jughead in season 4 but I was curious to see how they pulled it off. Season 5 was my least favorite season, I felt the 7 year time jump didn't do anyone any favors and it didn't do anything for the plot. Season 6 was unironically my third favorite superpowers related thing on the CW (season 1 of The Flash and almost the entirety of Superman and Lois are spots one and two). I thought season 7 was interesting but the writers did something I hate which is try to tackle historical issues through a modern day lens. If you have a story set in 1955, then you need to work within that limitation. But I get what they were trying to do and say.

My favorite character was Cheryl. How could it NOT be her, amirite?! She was the Vegeta of Riverdale. She had the best and most recognizable character arc in the entire series. She started off being openly antagonistic and yet as time went on she fell on the side of good more and more often. Even when she would backstep into her old habits, it didn't last long because she wanted to do better. (Plus I also know what it's like to lose a sibling under tragic circumstances).

Which brings me to an interesting thing I didn't pick up on until pretty late in the series. When you compare Cheryl and Betty you start to see understated aspects of nurture vs nature. Sure this exists in all the characters, but I feel it's the clearest in these two characters. Cheryl growing up in a household of privilege and entitlement, two things Cheryl was groomed to wield like a weapon. Yet as events in Riverdale continue to unfold, Cheryl learns more and more how closely her family is linked to the negative things that are happening and have happened in the past. Then you have Betty who has always felt this darkness in her, occasionally giving in so she could punish. Then she finds out her dad is a serial killer, then her long lost older brother is one, then founds out she has the so called "serial killer gene". Everything her brain tells her is killing is in her blood, it's quite literally in her DNA so why fight against it. And what do we see with these two characters as time goes on? Cheryl fighting against her nurture and Betty fighting against her nature. To the point where at the end of season 7 they both choose to leave it behind because they didn't want to be defined and controlled by it anymore.

Let's talk about the Alice in the room. I want to start by saying, any parent not named Fred or Mary was.........not great. However no parent worked as diligently against her own kids than Alice with the exception of MAYBE Penelope. She sent her eldest daughter away to a convent to hide the shame of her pregnancy THEN gaslit both of her daughters into thinking the one wanted nothing to do with the other. We don't know exactly when she broke the brainwashing of The Farm, she was initially there willingly and drinking the kool-aid at first. At the end of the season when Charles shows up he mentions Alice as recently been working undercover. She never took any steps to protect Betty from Edgar, even after she presumably broke away from the control, she still threw Betty under the bus, I dare say using Betty as a distraction so she could investigate by herself. Then in season 6 there's the revelation that the entire reason why Alice is the way she is towards Betty is because she always knew about Hal's nightime hobby and saw that same darkness in her and thought the best way to quash it was to (emotionally) beat it out of her. That is not a redemption arc, that's not a justification and I feel like every time they made a bit of progress towards making Alice a better person, they needed to reset her. There was a fantastic episode in season 4 where Betty and Alice are talking to Betty's guidance counselor, and they have wonderful breakthrough where Alice keeps saying "but I love you but I love you" and Betty says "I love you too but that is not an apology" and Alice confesses that she love Betty more than Polly before running out of the room. That was a great scene and a great place to start rebuilding Alice to be a better character. And for awhile she was. Then season 6 happened. There's a scene in Doctor Who where The Doctor comments on how the Human race has been subjected so many times he thinks they enjoy it. That's how I feel about Alice, she falls under the sway of other people so many times I swear she's intentionally letting it happen. I feel Alice should've been one of the first people to break from Percival's mind control because of what they had been doing with her over the past season and a half. It was disappointing to see her be as so ride or die as Frank was. Then season 7 was a soft reset for most of the characters, except her. She was for me, the most frustrating and most disappointing character. Was she the worst parent? Maybe, maybe not. Hiriam and Penelope give her a run for her money on that front but she was the one that let me down the most.

Like I said, overall i really enjoyed this show. I dare anyone not to get emotional at the end of the first episode of season 4 when Archie is driving Fred's body back to Riverdale and the streets are lined with people holding signs saying "Welcome home, Fred". Or the entirety of the final episode which was so emotionally charged, who here could keep a dry eye in the last 90 seconds? "Oh, she's sleeping" "........I don't think she's sleeping". boom waterfalls.

But I do feel better writers could've done wonders with this show. A big failing of the show as the failure to do the legwork to justify the end result. Hal being the black hood killer, The Farm being a big organ harvesting scam as well as Evelyn being Edgar's wife. Alice claiming she always lived in fear of Hal (this one is just a bit ole plothole). Everyone being unable to go back to 2023 in the end. I felt in the later half of the series most of the music numbers was used as a way to pad the run time (or season length, looking at you season 5) for episodes rather than being used as a narrative device. The list goes on. But ultimately, there are better written shows that have done worse with what they had. This show more than most shows was consistent. It knew what it was, it knew what it wanted to be and it didn't stray from that. It was rarely boring and had a narrative flow that kept you invested from the end of one episode to the start of the next. I never felt like the show was wasting my time.

I just gotta know. I'm curious that is all. How did he get the nickname? I just wanna know.. because

Forsythe=Jughead Archibald= Archie or Arch Reginald- Reggie Veronica- Ronnie Elizabeth- Betty or Betts

Most of the riverdalians have nicknames and real names....i just wanna know Sweet Pea's

Edits: thank you for the comments this was written from a lack of coffee and Raw dogging work ( i work with kids as a sub TA and I has a SpEd class with little ones)

Do you guys have any fav riverdale theory's?😼

Look, i’m not saying any of them are innocent (maybe fred). they’re far from it. but no one talks about how traumatizing everything must of been for them. everyone talks about which kid had it the worst, but what about the parents?

Fred’s wife turned out to be a lesbian, his son chose hiram lodge over him, got sent to jail, and got shot at. twice.

Alice’s husband turned out to be a serial killer. She was finally trying to do right and meet her son, and he ends up being an imposter. All 3 of her kids end up leaving her, then fp does as well.

They’re not the only ones either. I just feel like we don’t talk about it enough