/r/RealTesla
the home of Tesla discussion for those who haven't drank the Elon-Ade
If you're interested in discussing the polarizing, ongoing soap opera that is Tesla, but you refuse to drink the Tesla Cult Kool-Aid, this is the place for you. We aren't "neutral", we are generally quite dubious of the claims made by Tesla and their leadership, and have some fun at their expense. Positive views on the company are not only accepted, they are encouraged - but only with data to support claims made. Fans of Tesla looking to make honest counterpoints to the skepticism will be welcomed and protected by the mods - but fanboi trolls will be banned faster than Elon can lie about FSD.
One of the core values of r/RealTesla is transparency.
All moderator activity is recorded and publicly viewable here.
RULES:
1) Posts, both text and link, must relate to Tesla or the EV or AV market space in which they compete. Posts about the automotive industry in general must be accompanied by a comment from OP explaining how it relates to Tesla.
Any post that does not meet the requirements of Rule 1, but is related to Tesla's sister companies, Elon Musk, or Tesla fan(boi)s, must be flaired as TESLAGENTIAL, or it will be removed.
2) Meta posts discussing the subreddit itself need to be pre-approved by a Moderator, and will be flaired as such.
3) Posts whose intent is humor (not information or discussion) must be flaired as a SHITPOST. The moderation team will curate Shitposts so that no more than a few are on the front page at a given time. It is acceptable to put whatever title you want on original content Shitpost images that are memes/photoshops/etc intended to be humorous.
4) No mindless, pro-Elon "Tesla will rule the world" fandom. Opining Tesla will in fact make millions of cars each year and dominate the industry is acceptable - actually encouraged (with reasoning), as it provides a nice balance and perspective against our admittedly skeptical slant. But gushing over the greatness of Elon, isn't allowed - Reddit has enough of it already.
5) ALL LINKS MUST INCLUDE THE ORIGINAL TITLE OF THE CONTENT - Crossposts from within Reddit must be flaired as such, and cannot change the original title. Titles that are (for some reason) in all CAPS can be de-capitalized to avoid eye trauma.
Links to tweets must be the text of the tweet itself (or a truncated version thereof). You can pick a portion of the tweet as your title, as long as the context isn't misleading.
Links to forum posts must also contain the text of the forum post headline. If there is no headline, the top (OP) post must be quoted in the link title.
Crossposts must be flaired and maintain the original title.
You cannot post a link as a self-post to get around filters, or highlight your own comment as the body of the self-post along with the link. Self-posts are for written, non-linked content only.
If you have a zinger you just can't hold back, add it as a comment immediately after your post.
6) Any link to content behind a paywall (including Seeking Alpha) must have the entire text of the article included in the comments. Failure to do so will have the post removed.
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7) The following behaviors in the comment section will lead to warnings/bans, and removal of comments :
excessively criticizing users, moderators, or r/RealTesla. Constructive comments should far outnumber attacks on others
any comment made that implies or presumes that a given user or the sub in general is long/short TSLA stock; generic references to "bulls" and "bears" is ok.
using the word FUD non-ironically. It's tired and meaningless.
8) Images of text are not allowed. Screen captures modified to show information (for instance, a screenshot of a Tesla online order page) are acceptable, but screenshots of tweets, forums, or anything else that could have been linked will be removed, and repeat offenders will be banned.
9) Posts made for the purpose of discussing other subreddits are not allowed. This includes discussions about being banned, screenshots of discussions with mods of other subreddits, or anything of the sort. We don't need or want the drama, let's enjoy what we have here and leave it at that.
Lastly, please use available flairs for RUMORS and OWNER EXPERIENCES when appropriate...
For more on the history and philosophy of the subreddit, you can check out the Wiki (in progress).
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Did Elon lie, when he said Tesla is still on track to beat 2023 deliveries? They would need to outperform expectations by a large margin. China and US production data say that’s out of reach. Elon should have had those on hands at earnings.
https://cnevpost.com/2024/11/04/tesla-china-sells-68280-cars-oct-2024/
So numerous people keep posting videos of themselves watching video while driving. Something that Tesla was supposed to have stopped, and the NHTSA is supposed to have told them to stop.
Famously Tesla still allows an open browser in North America, which is stupid enough by itself, NO web browsing! And there are workarounds from third parties to allow video while driving.
Tesla should be duty-bound to realize and prevent this, it's widely known; not a secret hack. Also the NHTSA should mandate they turn off the web browser altogether. It's disallowed in Australia because of distracted driving.
Right now outside of Tesla, your only options if you want a sports sedan are in the ultra luxury category. The closest cars to the model 3 are the polestar 2 and ioniq 6, and unfortunately they both have similar issues to the Tesla. The ioniq 6 has touch buttons which are pretty annoying. And the polestar 2 is really cramped inside. Then there's the issue of the polestar 2 is really heavy and can't get 300 miles of range. It's so annoying that all the legacy auto makers are copying Tesla for interior design. Oddly enough there's plenty of gas cars out there that still have tons of buttons. Right now I'm planning on sticking to gas cars till we get EV sedans that are fast and have lots of buttons. But I overall feel hopeless that will ever happen. The sedan/coupe market in the USA is almost dead. Maybe 10 years from now some of the ultra luxury EV sedans will be affordable, but then there's the issue of long term maintenance costs/battery degradation
In a recent exchange, Zoox co-founder Jesse Levinson criticized Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) technology at TechCrunch Disrupt, calling it unreliable for driverless use. Elon Musk fired back, dismissively claiming Zoox would have failed without Amazon’s support. Instead of addressing the critique about Tesla's hardware and safety concerns, Musk opted for a personal jab. This sparked reactions noting the irony, as Tesla had past bailouts, and his non-rebuttal hinted at Levinson's valid points.