Thinking of getting rid of my 2020 Model 3 after realizing I will be trapped in the car after an accident, if unconscious. People on the outside won't be able to open the door?

We laugh at your "giga".

For TSLA talk, and flotsam and jetsam not warranting its own post...

This whole thing has played brilliantly for Elon. Competition for Tesla if these plans go into effect will be stifled and limited, he won't face legitimate criminal investigations for selling products that don't exist and pumping and dumping stock, and now he has inside track on government contracts because he's in the Whitehouse. I hate the guy, but this was his hail-mary and he won.

It's clear at this point that Tesla has fallen behind its competitors, which leads me to wonder what Tesla does better. The only three things I can think of that Tesla clearly does better are that you don't have to buy a new car from a dealership, you can use your phone as a key, and Tesla has a charging network. There are other features like the infotainment system and “self-driving”, but those have their issues.

I like Tesla cars, really do, but I am relieved that I sold mine and bought an EQE. I took delivery of it today. I am not as giddy or excited by the EQE but I am relaxed about it.

Sooo with the latest release of FSD we in Europe on the highways can actually use it. Up to now FSD was this half half thing that really did not work most of the time because it simply could not do the right thing.

As I was driving the car on the German autobahn I noticed how smooth everything was. I was thinking, "ahhh really, I am about to trade my Tesla, that sucks they fixed things." Then as the FSD took me on the off ramp to the Mercedes dealership it decided that the off ramp road was much wider and FSD put me head first into an oncoming car taking the on ramp. I had to jerk the car hard and sevre to get out of the way. My "ahhh really", turned into "yeah I am good lets get rid of this car."

That sums up my entire Tesla experience. It is not a bad car, but the fact that there is no front camera, no radar, no sonar, only vision makes it a REALLY bad car. Vision does not work. Tesla vision system is akin to working working working working, oops explosion not working oops sorry... There are many other little gotchas like difficulty parking tight spots, that need fixing. Yet Musk is more pre-occupied doing something else. I don't feel bad selling the car and am quite relieved.

How is my EQE? Well it does not have FSD as worded, but has advanced driver assistance with augmented reality. Quite good actually and I am impressed. More impressed than what Tesla has brought to the table.

Thus good luck folks...

I leased a model 3 in late 2022. Earlier in 2024, I decided to try to transfer the lease. I found a willing taker, and we went through Tesla's transfer process. After the taker was approved, it took us about 3 months to complete.

In the fall of 2024, Tesla emailed us both instructions on which documents to send in, what to sign, etc. Tesla then instructed us to transfer the car on a given day, and then Tesla would switch registration, app ownership, etc. Tesla sent us the signed agreement, signed by me, the assignee, and Tesla. They said the transfer was final. I thought everything was done.

Fast forward to about a week ago: Tesla sends me an overdue notice saying I haven't paid. I also receive a parking ticket in the mail for a city I haven't been to in years. Turns out, Tesla never switched the registration for the car.

I emailed Tesla to ask them to please switch the registration to the assignee's name retroactive to the transfer date. They replied saying they have no record of the transfer being approved and I should try to get the car back (!?). I sent them a copy of the signed agreement - signed by them - and forwarded a string of emails that spanned months showing that they've led me through this entire process, finalized the process, and that I followed their process every step of the way. Many of the emails on that thread were sent by the same rep that told me they have no record indicating the transfer was approved, lol. Since then, they've gone silent. (shocker).

My question is: what the heck? Has anyone else experienced this? Obviously this is there error, but should I be worried about what Tesla's incompetence can do to my credit? Can they garnish wages?

I've hired an attorney. But wanted to know if anyone else has had a similar experience with Tesla botching something, refusing to admit to their mistake, and then just going silent. And, if so, what worked to unlock the stalemate and resolve the issue.

I was suggested to cross-post this here, that it would be appreciated. Sorry if that breaks any rules.

Just a public service announcement. I just had to put in a BBB complaint against Tesla over one of their custom car orders.

On 11/25 I put up $250 to custom order a Tesla because I didn't like anything on the lot, and because a sales rep AND the site claimed I could get it home delivered this year. They're running a reasonably good deal (3 months FSD+Supercharger) and I'd be eligible for it. Ever since, I've had nothing but problems with them.

First, they kept swapping VINs in and out of the account, not really explaining what they wanted but constantly requesting and unrequesting Insurance info. Not a big deal, but awkward. Each time, they tried to get me to swap to one of the models on the lot that I hadn't wanted in the first place.

Then, I was informed they don't do home deliveries in MA, so I'll have to drive 60 miles when it shows up. Annoying, but I found someone willing to give me a ride into Boston.

Then I was told my car was headed to a lot by last Friday. A couple days later, I was informed that was wrong and that car isn't built yet and my VIN changed again. Then I got a message that my car (new VIN) was ready and I could pick it up at any time. When I tried to contact them to set up an appointment, I was told that they had no idea why I was told that, and there were no matching cars in the New England area at this time.

Fast-forward to today. When things get really fun. Last night I sent an angry email that I wanted an update by Monday with real dates and an understanding about this FSD deal and whether I was going to lose that. Today, a Tesla rep called me to tell me there's no way a car will be in New England by the end of the year, and to try yet again to get me to pick a car on the lot. When I refused, he kept pushing and trying to convince me of different colors and how much money I'll save if he can get me into this or that base model.

When that call ended, it turned this way. He basically said "ok, well I'll keep the reservation open just in case a car shows up, but it'll automatically expire at the end of the year"

My response was to question the deposit. And his... that if they can't find me the matching car by the end of the year, they're keeping the money. I'm no lawyer, but when somebody gives you money for something, and you don't give them that something back, you have no claim to that money. Thus begins a (hopefully short) battle to get my deposit refunded after all of Tesla's lies.

I can't speak to product question or after-purchase quality, but PLEASE for your own sakes, do not custom order a Tesla. I mean, it might go okay for you, but it could also go how it went for me.

UPDATE for those doubting BBB. The local Tesla branch manager just called me to process a refund of the full balance. She did not cite the consumer board complaint, but the BBB complaint.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-denied-access-to-spacexs-biggest-government-secrets-over-drugs-and-foreign-contacts/

A year after its debut, the Cybertruck has come to embody Tesla’s infamous CEO, with critics suggesting it’s as defective and unreliable as Elon Musk himself.

Read here: https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/cybertruck-elon-musk-haters-lovers/

The EV tax credits are probably getting rolled back with the next administration, but they are also discussing rolling back the average fuel economy requirements for auto makers by 15% and emissions reductions by 25%. Will this cause a reduced need for Tesla's carbon credits being purchased by the other automakers or is this a completely separate credit system?

We laugh at your "giga".

For TSLA talk, and flotsam and jetsam not warranting its own post...

The others trade for 29 times expected 2025 earnings. Tesla is at 130 times. It has gone up 73% since the election and is going up so much, so fast that even sycophantic analysts cannot keep up.

"Investors believe two things will drive earnings estimates higher. One matters more than the other. The first is a new model in 2025 which CEO Elon Musk believes will drive volumes in 2025 to about 2.3 million units, up about 25% and about 200,000 cars more than Wall Street projects. Selling more cars is great for a car company, but that isn’t what investors are most excited about.

That would be self-driving robotaxis. Tesla plans to launch a self-driving robotaxi service in late 2025. It doesn’t appear to be reflected in Wall Street earnings targets yet. Analysts are waiting.

...It’s possible to work backward from the P/E. To trade at an average trillion-dollar P/E ratio, Tesla needs to earn roughly $50 billion a year. The car business is expected to earn about $10 billion in the coming years. Robotaxis need to earn roughly $40 billion a year to square Tesla’s valuation with the rest of the Magnificent Seven (plus Broadcom)."

When 29 PEs begin looking cheap, we may be in a bubble.

Passed by my local Tesla dealer tonight and they had every available parking spot, as well as most grassy areas covered in Cyber Trucks.