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Nietzsche: The “False” Philosopher Who Might Be More Real Than Kant

Is Nietzsche a failed philosopher, as some critics suggest, or does his relentless questioning make him closer to the true purpose of philosophy than the system-builders like Kant or Hegel? Philosophy, at its heart, is about questioning—everything we think we know, every assumption we take for granted. But what happens when that questioning dismantles the very foundation of philosophy itself?

Friedrich Nietzsche’s work invites this provocative question. Often dismissed for his lack of systematization or misunderstood as a nihilist, Nietzsche may represent a more authentic form of philosophy—one that refuses to settle for abstract constructs and instead grapples directly with the messy realities of human existence.

Philosophy as Radical Questioning

Philosophy began with questions. Socrates, one of its earliest pioneers, famously declared, “I know that I know nothing.” This wasn’t a concession of ignorance but a call to engage deeply with the uncertainties of life. True wisdom, he argued, begins with the recognition that our beliefs must be challenged if we are to get closer to any kind of truth.

This tradition of questioning has always been central to philosophy. Nietzsche, however, took this further than most. Where many philosophers construct elaborate systems based on foundational assumptions, Nietzsche questioned those very foundations. For him, the pursuit of truth required interrogating even the most “obvious” truths—about morality, religion, society, and even the concept of truth itself.

Nietzsche vs. Traditional Philosophers

To understand Nietzsche’s radical approach, it’s helpful to contrast him with traditional philosophers like Kant. Kant’s philosophy, for instance, rests on assumptions about the human mind’s structure and its ability to impose order on reality. His categorical imperative offers a universal moral law, elegant in its logic but arguably disconnected from the complexities of human psychology and lived experience.

Nietzsche rejected such universal principles, which he saw as products of cultural bias or fear of chaos. For example:

  • Kant’s morality? Nietzsche argued it was rooted in unexamined Christian values.
  • Hegel’s teleological history? Nietzsche dismissed it as a fantasy of progress that ignored life’s unpredictable nature.
  • Descartes’ cogito? Nietzsche would have seen it as too narrowly focused on abstract rationality, ignoring the instincts and will that drive human behavior.

Nietzsche’s refusal to rely on assumptions was not a rejection of philosophy but a deep commitment to its core purpose: to seek truths that resonate with the realities of life, not just the elegance of thought.

Real Truth vs. Abstract Systems

What makes Nietzsche’s philosophy so unique—and so misunderstood—is its grounding in the real world. Unlike abstract systems that may have internal logic but struggle to apply to lived experience, Nietzsche’s ideas engage directly with the challenges of being human.

Take his critique of morality, for example. Nietzsche saw traditional morality as a slave morality, a system created by the weak to subdue the strong. This wasn’t just a provocative claim; it was an attempt to uncover the psychological and historical forces behind the values we take for granted. He didn’t want to build a new system to replace old ones; he wanted to expose the illusions propping them up.

In this sense, Nietzsche’s philosophy is profoundly practical. By questioning the “truths” we inherit, he invites us to create our own values, grounded in the reality of who we are and who we aspire to be.

Why Nietzsche is Misunderstood

Critics often accuse Nietzsche of being destructive, nihilistic, or even anti-philosophical. But this criticism misses the point. Nietzsche’s rejection of universal truths wasn’t an act of destruction for its own sake; it was an effort to clear the way for new, life-affirming possibilities.

Traditional philosophers sought comfort in eternal principles. Nietzsche, by contrast, confronted the chaos of existence head-on. He didn’t shy away from life’s uncertainties or contradictions but embraced them, insisting that we must find meaning not in universal laws but in our own creative power.

A Philosopher of the Future

So, is Nietzsche a “failed” philosopher? Or is he, in fact, more of a philosopher than his critics recognize? If philosophy is about questioning everything—including itself—Nietzsche may embody its essence more fully than system-builders like Kant or Hegel.

Rather than offering neat answers, Nietzsche forces us to ask better, deeper questions. He challenges us to confront life’s uncertainties and take responsibility for creating our own values. In doing so, he not only redefined philosophy but also left a legacy that continues to inspire—and unsettle—thinkers today.

Closing Thoughts

Philosophy, as Socrates taught us, begins with the recognition that we know nothing. Nietzsche took this insight to its ultimate conclusion, questioning even the foundations of philosophy itself. In doing so, he didn’t fail philosophy—he reinvigorated it.

Perhaps the real failure lies not in Nietzsche’s refusal to offer comfort but in our reluctance to embrace his challenge. For those willing to step into the uncertainty, Nietzsche’s work offers not answers, but the courage to confront life on its own terms.

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2024/11/29
23:44 UTC

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The Complexity of Communication: Are We Ever Truly Understood

Have you ever had a conversation where you felt like you were speaking a different language, even though you and the other person were using the same words? A while ago, a friend and I discussed how every individual has their own unique connotations for words, shaped by personal experiences and culture. This realization led us to a bigger question: can humans ever truly communicate efficiently? Or is communication always limited by the inherent subjectivity of language?

Language, at its core, is an imperfect tool. Words like "freedom," "love," or "justice" carry different meanings for different people. Even in simple conversations, there’s always a gap between what we mean and what the other person understands. We might think we’ve conveyed our ideas, but how can we be sure? We can’t look inside someone’s mind to confirm their interpretation.

This makes communication a spectrum rather than a binary process. Some conversations fall close to perfect understanding, while others result in complete misinterpretation. Factors like mimicry, gestures, and shared experiences help narrow the gap, but they’re not foolproof. And not everyone is skilled in reading nonverbal cues or adapting their language.

Adapting to the listener’s perspective is one way to improve communication. If we know someone well, we can tailor our words to their unique connotations. For strangers or in abstract discussions, we can explain key terms naturally or use analogies. But even these strategies have limits.

So, is fully efficient communication ever possible? Probably not. To achieve perfect understanding, both people would need identical mental frameworks—something that’s practically impossible. Even advanced technology, like direct brain-to-brain interfaces, would face challenges, as interpretation is inherently subjective.

What does this mean for daily life? Perhaps it’s about accepting imperfection. Communication isn’t about perfection but about effort—trying to understand and be understood as best we can. It’s a reminder of the patience, adaptability, and empathy required to connect with others in a world where language will always be a little imperfect.

I’d love to hear your thoughts. Do you think we can ever truly understand each other? How do you navigate misunderstandings in your own conversations?

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2024/11/29
23:43 UTC

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Paradoxum Sociale (Part; QUART-DUA-TRIA : beginning.)

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2024/11/29
21:35 UTC

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Can we ever justify rape

Anyting absolute i raise an eyebrow. I just thought about the possibilities, but i couldn't find it. If a rapist/pedo/murderer someone who did genocides. Like htler. when they get raped would that be justified? The pain and agony of rape do they deserve it?

I kinda wish murder and rape wouldn't get compared too much. They are both bad 😔. I saw somebody saying they could overcome rape but not murder. That made me think.

When i question the morality of rape ,murder etc. I get called an bad person, but i think we should question everything. I swear im not a bad person bro please don't come after me in the comments😭😭( just so you know im a woman btw im 17)

Also, i would rather get rped than murderd because i could take revenge on the rapist mf and overcome the trauma 👎 but i can't get revenge when i get murdered. What do you think about this

In summary, im asking: Is there a situation where rape is justified (Sorry for bad English)

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2024/11/28
06:57 UTC

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Hey there r/RealPhilosophy! Regarding the question of using philosophy to end suffering: what if a concious mind is meant/made to "suffer?"

So I realized: what if the most logical explanation as to why a concious mind exists on any planet would be to suffer? Suffer, however, based off our more fortunate standards specifically: to suffer the—what we would consider—"pains" of things like inconvenience, discomfort, misfortune, and displeasure.

Its the incessant indulgence in these things that lead a concious mind to be completely blind to the woes of such, thus the compassion and ability to empathize that comes with the experience (or knowledge) of suffering. It's hardly just an "eye for an eye"—the inherent need for ourselves to retaliate due to being concious of ourselves—that leads the world to be blind, it's our sense organs reacting to our environment and any desire for ourselves conjured from this reaction that is the most blinding; it's this that leads to the vanities we imagine in our heads, that we end up revolving our lives around, and make most important, that leads away from the "true life" a life of selflessness has to offer: a life most lived in the present, opposed to stuck in our heads, the images of what we consider the pain of our "past" and the thirst or fear for the "future" (our sense of time being yet another consequence of consciousness—like selfishness) dominating how we feel today.

It's our sense organs reacting to the extent we've presently manipulated our environment that leads to an addiction to it, even happiness, to the point where we become convinced that it's even lifes meaning: to become as happy as possible, but when we make our highest happiness the satisfaction of our greatest desires, we're only lead to an inevitable, massive disappointment, due to all exploitation of desire only being temporary. This begs the question: out of all the desire, and vanity that's bred from it, would there by any that don't end in inevitable disappointment due to being temporary? Love—but not Disney World kind of love, no, the Gandhi, MLK, Leo Tolstoy kind: selflessness—is the only desire that not only holds the ability to potentially last as long as man does, but also doesn't lead to inevitable disappointment. Dare I say: it's what the idea of a God or creator of some kind (not any man made God, but the substance of them)—its will: selflessness, to even it's extremes like self-sacrifice, that is the only desire worth seeking. But if you're someone against the idea of a God or creator (good luck finding the will to be selfless to the extremes) then let the fact that we're the only living things that have ever existed (on this planet, as far we know) that can even begin to consider abstaining from itself for any reason at all, be enough.

It's this that would end all suffering, but not by ending it, but by normalizing it I suppose you could say, by suffering for the sake of selflessness. To take the empty, ultimately only disappointing desire of stimulating our sense organs and fulfilling our vanities—for the sake of ourselves, and replace it, with the logic and alternative perspectives and behaviors that our inherency to selflessness breeds.

What if we're designed to not be comforted or pleasured incessantly. Just look at most rich people, obese or crooked in some way or another, the idea of their temporary lifestyle they've become so attached to no longer being an avenue to being comforted and pleasured, saps or corrupts their concious mind, even to the point where their willing to even kill to keep it. It's a life of abstaining from your sense organs, and teaching yourself to thirst and desire for the least, that ultimately leads to a life of the most.

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2024/11/27
19:26 UTC

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A Documentary on Faith

As part of my University studies, I decided to do an exploration of faith through different mediums. I have created a Forum section on the website, (work in progress), and I would really appreciate it if people talked about what the word faith means to them. This definition is kept extremely open ended by design, as I don't want to define what it means to you. You can do this through stories, photographs, blogs, etc. Everything is welcome. Please note that this is a student project and a lot more content is yet to come.
https://shirurmalhar.wixsite.com/a-documentary-of-f-1

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2024/11/27
13:24 UTC

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Crito by Plato (Videobook)

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2024/11/22
00:17 UTC

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Good food,good people,good music, good movies, good books. What else do I deserve if not this.

If the world works on karma I am entitled to have a good time. If all I have tried to dispense is good why then the bad comes my way. The problem arises when you put a tag on what's good and what's bad. The source of sadness and misery is your own search for satisfaction and meaning. We don't take a second before judging any phenomenon, any action or anything in existence. We being self aware and self conscious are free to judge and have an opinion. We are subjective, we can't be the same as the next person. The term good and bad lies on a very extreme spectrum, but we are way too comfortable to judge according to these set morals. You can be indifferent to all or most of the things, but when alone with your thoughts everyone questions their existence. Some are exceptions to this too, the ones entangled in constructs so strong that it doesn't let any kind of foreign thoughts creep in. But that's the problem, Individually intelligent humans start to covet for validation in this makings of society. We are willing to dump our personal opinions to be better liked in a group of individuals. Until and unless we have an identity as an individual......

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2024/11/16
17:24 UTC

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Any philosophical concept that ruined modern day fancy lifestyle?

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2024/11/13
04:36 UTC

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What's the profound concept in whole philosophy according to you?

In your journey of learning philosophy and understanding any particular concept related to human things. What's the mind blowing words you heard and understood completely.

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2024/11/11
17:46 UTC

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What you think about Nietzsche?

What's your POV about Friedrich Nietzsche.

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2024/11/10
20:18 UTC

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Apology of Socrates by Plato (Videobook)

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2024/11/08
23:15 UTC

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philosopher tier list

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2024/11/08
21:21 UTC

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Martin Heidegger's Basic Problems of Phenomenology (1927) — An online discussion group starting November 4, meetings every other Monday, open to everyone

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2024/11/04
13:06 UTC

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What's the truth???

What's the porpose of life ? Some peoples says that living for the happiness of someone else is the only porpose of life, like making someone happy without your personal benefit Some peoples says your parents are GOD for you so living for them is the propose of life And some says live the life as you want, but then this sounds a little selfish

Of you live life for others not for you then what is the difference between surviving and living And if you live life for yourself then what kind of livng is this If you couldn't be of help to even a single person in your entire life, then what's the point of your existence?

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2024/11/04
04:25 UTC

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Three-worldism

Three-worldism is a new philosophy that I created in 2023 and 2024. Three-worldism is about metaphysics, consciousness, and ethics. To create three-worldism I used rational-intuitive thinking that combines reason and intuition. Three-worldism is based on the experiences of most people throughout history unlike other philosophies that are based on ideas. The problem with modern philosophy is that it rejects the experiences of most people. Modern philosophy only accepts what scientists and philosophers have to say, which is a small group of people.

https://www.lulu.com/shop/john-pie/three-worldism/ebook/product-gj8grwr.html?page=1&pageSize=4

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2024/11/03
21:19 UTC

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True contradictions as the border between what is true and what is false

Whenever you create a set or categorize anything you create a group in the set and a group outside of the set. The border separating the groups is a group too. These are where true contradictions lie. Our language facilitates categorization which allows us to see what is true, what is false and what is in between. Due to most people being so reliant on the true, false binary they have a hard time seeing the necessary border even though it's also apart of reality...or a possibility of reality.

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2024/11/03
20:51 UTC

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COMFORT ZONE

Why Should Anyone Have to Step Out of Their Comfort Zone to Improve Themselves?

You often hear philosophers and motivational speakers say, "You should step out of your comfort zone to discover a better version of yourself."

so the question is what will you do of that better version??? ultimately you are doing all these things just to make yourself in comfort state in which you are already in so why are you leaving your comfort zone ?

First of all let me introduce comfort zone The comfort zone is a state where one feels safe, at ease, and content. It varies from person to person, as everyone's idea of comfort is unique. For example, my comfort zone is spending time with my family, laughing and talking with them, and playing games with friends. This is where I feel relaxed, happy and comfortable. Similarly, everyone has their own comfort zone, so why should they leave it?

If you start from the beginning you will see a 3 year old child is in comfort with his mother and feels good around her, One day, he is separated from that comfort to start school, with the idea that studying will help them become educated and find success. But why? After around 20 years of education, that person will try to find a job which in turns give him money which will take him to comfort state . which he already had at the age of 3

The irony here is that, after all these years, what has the person gained? A state of comfort—which they already had as a child. So, why should they spend years pursuing something they originally had?

Imagine you’re a child, about 7 or 8 years old, in need of guidance before stepping out of your comfort zone. You approach an elderly, wise man and ask, "You are educated and honorable. What did you gain after all these years of struggle?" He replies, "I have a family that cares for me, a home, and a loyal dog."

As you listen, you realize that you already have those same things—a loving family, a house, and a sense of comfort this the all that old man got is comfort zone which that child is already in !!

It's just like you are trading in LOSS without thinking about it see how - let's take another example similar as above

Think about it this way: imagine you asks your grandfather, "What did you gain after all those years of struggle?" His answer? Comfort. But it’s the same comfort you already have now. So why would you step out of your comfort zone if you already possess what you’re aiming to achieve?

Remember, you can ask your grandfather that what to do in your childhood because one day, you’ll grow old too. But your grandfather can’t ask you about his future because he has no future. life don't work like that .... he will not get his childhood Backkk..... that small child who was forced to comeout from his comfort zone will not get that same comfort in future..... you will not get the comfort of love of your mom at the age of 80 !!!

live the life dude !!

THANKS

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2024/11/02
06:59 UTC

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