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'Meaning' is a form of order-making.
Entropy is the pull to chaos. to relative equilibrium. balance.
And when everything is at equilibrium, there are no distinctions. and without distinctions, you dont have a basis for complexity.
the speed of an object is defined relative to other things. if a fast moving object was the only object, it would no longer be 'fast moving' because that property is defined by relative factors. fast Relative to the things around it.
The same is true of shapes, and distinctions of any kind. things are defined in relation to other things, more often than not.
Color. Size. Heat. Even language.  it is the differences between things relative to other things that allows us to define anything.

Order is about creating consistent and robust structures, within your mind, and environment, as to actively fight the ambient pull towards equilibrium. because equilibrium is 'nothing' in a sense.  the point at which nothing can be defined because everything exists at equal with all other things.

'meaning' here is a matter of what order we choose to manifest, develop, and nurture, and why. This is also what i call 'the existential pursuit of meaning'

What order am i creating and maintaining, and why?

Iv'e tripped a few times now, mostly shrooms, acid a few times, MDMA twice or so. And so often, i feel... Bad. And I think im begining to get why. Iv'e had a lot of issues over my life (im just about 28 for reference) and only this past 6 or so months have i dug into it.

And thats great. Im happy im making progress (even if its much too slow for my liking, though thats the problem i guess) but im worried next time i do shrooms, itll be a... Lets call it a mix of a 'reckoning with myself' and 'putting myself on trial'. Obviously that's not really 'good' but i also feel like it has to be done. I need to move on, forgive myself, do SOMETHING so i can stop languishing in my past mistakes. But im worried the 'me vs them' (shrooms/psychedelics vs me/ego) will just result in problems/pain.

So... Idk. I'm not gonna be tripping for at least another week or two but i know it will be shrooms that i do but im not sure what to do with em. Do i aim for a low dose? Medium or even high? Do I wait until my lifes 'sorted out' or go for it now? I feel like i need to confront myself, to finally just work on actually forgiving myself for my own mistakes (whether caused directly by me or influenced by others) but... Yeah.

What do you all think? Any thoughts are very welcome.

Well, I’ve been trying to have a “psychedelic experience” or trip several times. I always thought the problems were the substance (magic truffles), but today I tried 10mg of 4-HO-MET (Metocin, maybe even 12mg, split the 20mg pellet and took the slightest biggest half) and barely noticed any effects…. Which makes me think that I did right the last times with truffles, but I simply don’t have the same effects or at least I’m not very reactive to them, and I think Cannabis has to do something with it, since I vape almost daily, around 0.25/0.50g of weed.

This is my history so far:

• 2 years ago I bought 15gr of Cataleya Magic Truffles (similar to Valhalla / Nirvana, supposed to be high potency truffles). Ate 5gr doing the lemon tek and eating the truffles after drinking the lemon juice as a first try cautious pproximation. Felt almost nothing, little buzz, that’s all.

• Ate the 10gr left 2 weeks after that (kept in the fridge). No lemon tek, just ate them. Puked after 20 minutes, almost didn’t feel nothing, little buzz like the first time.

• Bought 15gr of Dragon’s Dynamite (Pajateros) like 6 months ago, ate them all (no lemon tek). Started experiencing some visual, nice feeling…. But got nauseous in like 50 minutes after eating them, and puked after a while. Since the feeling of peace was good and had some visuals at the beach (light reflecting on the webs, sand moving slowly…) I guess the effects were mild. I don’t know if the effect was “full” since I puked….

• 3 weeks ago I tried 15gr of Dragon’s Dynamite, did the lemon tek, just drink it, not eating the chopped truffles. Had very mild effects, so couple hours after I tried some cannabis and I could feel enhanced effects from Cannabis, lots more of introspection,thoughts, feeling the music, little visuals…. So I guess the truffles did their work, but I’m not very sensitive.

Today, I tried 10/12mg of 4-HO-MET and this is my trip report:

• 9:30 - 10/12mg oral. Fasted for 11 hours, drank a camomile infusion before taking the half pellet. I’m in my man’s cave, where I use to meditate with Cannabis.

• 10:10 - I feel a little buzz in the head, similar to when I vape weed, but no visuals at all.

• 10:40 - I can feel some body load, I’m in a good mood, I can see some light visuals if I stare at the floor or some point, but very mild.

• 11:00 - I’m a little bored, I should be peaking by now but I barely feel any effects beside the little buzz in the head. I decide to go to the beach and see if I feel something different in nature.

• 11:15 - I get to the beach, no visuals or headspace, so I decide to try some cannabis and see if the 4-HO-MET is in my body or doing something.

• 11:30 - I vape 0,25g of a nice sativa strain I know well. I can totally feel the effect of the cannabis is enhanced, I see no visuals but if I concentrate in the sand, I can see it moving, like breathing…but once I move my sight, the effect is gone.

• 11:45 - I put some Electronic Chill downtempo music and lay in the sun with my eyes closed, as I use to do when vaping cannabis and I can totally feel the amplified headspace, is like if I were vaping for the first time in a week or so, my thoughts go fast and I have this profound understanding I’ve achieved several times with cannabis before, I realize that my life is good, that the setting g of the mind is the most important thing in life experience, I can feel and get emotional with the music, I remember a loved one that passed away some months ago and have this emotional feelings and love for him…. Beach feels great, when I open my eyes I’m sober and don’t see any visuals, neither do I with eyes closed, but I have a very good mood and the meditation introspection has been really good and rewarding. I can feel the effects of the 4-HO-MET with the weed in a very nice way.

• 13:15 - I feel introspection and deep meditation is fading, I come back home and feel a little buzzed, but totally sober. I eat and feel like taking a nap. I do, when I wake up, there’s still some buzz on my head, that dissapears after one hour.

Due to my experiences, I get I have some tolerance with psychedelics, maybe is just how I am or is something I’ve developed through my relationship with Cannabis.I know I’ve had psychedelics experiences with cannabis in the past, visuals, euphoria, empathy, sense of knowledge and unity…

I guess I’ve kind of navigate through my mind with cannabis these last years, my use of cannabis is mainly with lights out, some music, and letting my head go. I love to think and intellectualize, as well as asking questions to myself, trying to realize what I can improve in my ilfe, my relationship with others, have vivid memories of the past…. So maybe I’m not as newbie as I thought I was regarding Psychonautics.

Of course 4-HO-MET is known from little headspace, but 10/12mg did nothing to me until I vaped some weed, and all my past experiences with psylocibin (15gr, twice, barely mild effects) seems to indicate that I’m not very reactive to psychedelics, at least at common dosages.

Better cautious and exploring the limits little by little, so I’ll wait 2 weeks and probably try 20mg of 4-HO-MET and see what happens, since now I’ve already experienced a lower dosage. I have 4-HO- MiPT and I could try 10mg, but based in this experience, I guess 10mg is a treshold dosage for me regarding 4-HO-XX tryptamines.

I also have 1V-LSD, 150mcg blotters that I could try….but I guess I’ll try with the tryptamines again before going with acid.

What is your opinion about my experiences? Do you think cannabis, the way I use it, could be something like a psychedelic that has given me tolerance and experience to deal with my headspace and other psychedelics substances?

Let me know also if insisting with the metocin is a good option for my next psychedelic journey, or I should try 4-HO-MiPT or 1V-LSD?

Thanks in advance for your help!

There's a subset of people claiming that, in one way or another, entitiee from DMT-space or "hyperspace" exists objectively.

I wonder how do they justify entities from non drug-induced hallucionations generated by mental disorders like schizophrenia or Charles Bonnet syndrome. Do these entities have an objective existence as well? If not, why are they different from the ones experienced in DMT-space?

There is a lot of literature discussing the ontology of DMT entities, is there any literature discussing this question?

Im looking for an article i saw in the last few weeks about the recent psilocybin trials experiencing moderate to mediocre results, on top of there being reports that a few of the participants had developed PTSD that they hadnt shown signs of beforehand. Any googling of the words PTSD and Psilocybin is astroturfed by positive results. Im an enthusiast myself for Psilocybin, but i feel like ive noticed an uptick in negatives articles and media regarding the substance. Wanted to actually look deeper into this article to see its accuracy and sources. If anyone has any information regarding this id love to hear it.

Hi everybody.

I ’m really interested about if anybody here is a “High IQ / Gifted” person, having been tested with any of the preceptive tests by a psychologist, or is a member of any associations like MENSA, Triple Nine Society, etc, and what is their experience with psychedelics. Specially, if you think that psychedelic experiences, insights or integrations are different to these kind of people and why.

I can remember mine like it was yesterday, summer of 2014 the year I graduated. I just got off work at mckyDs and where we meet up normally is behind a movie theater the same time everyday. So we all meet up and we're trying to figure out what to do, one friend said drinking, one said LSD and that he could get WoWz, and one said both lmao. Well at the time I didn't have money and didn't get paid till next week. My buddy said he'd buy my tab and id get him back. I was like FUCKING BET. So we decided a bombfire in my homies backyard as the sun was coming down. About 4 of us took the tabs and the other 3 were drinking and smoking. So first hour I don't FEEL SHIT, ofc me being me I talk a little shit. Ofc as I'm doubting things I get slapped with euphoria and the biggest smile appears on my face. First thing I noticed was this tree looking MASSIVE and I felt like a ant looking upwards. I noticed the tree branches started growing and dancing. I was WOW, and then I noticed my feet and started calling my toes "toesies" and starting laughing uncontrollably, had the crew calling thier toes "toesies" the rest of the night, next thing I noticed is all my human friends turned into goblins, like legit goblins and I was like WOOOOOOOW out loud. Never realized my mind could do such things, next I noticed smoke not coming out like smoke but squares and triangles.. I was definitely WoWd when seeing such, by the end of the trip I had the hardest time remembering how to drive or get home. Kept going in circles in confusion. Obviously don't trip and drive but I didn't know better and just wanted to lay down. Either or tho it was amazing to say the least.

I love LSD 👽

A couple months ago I decided to take a trip early in the morning. I made a tea with 2.5g of some pretty potent mushrooms. 0.9g Psilocybe zapotecorum, 0.9g Psilocybe caerulescens, 0.7g PE. (Potency from online sources say that first two are "low potency" but from personal experience with these particular ones I have that they are definitely on the higher end of things).

I soaked the powdered mushroooms in lemon juice, made the tea and downed it. The come up came on very strong and I was feeling it about 5 minutes post ingestion. About 5 minutes after that I laid down and listened to some music for about 15 minutes. As I was listening my body started feeling very intense, the usual mushroom come up but much more intense than anything I've ever experienced. Never done that many before.

As I was laying I remember feeling like my entire body was vibrating or shivering or something. I have felt a similar things before but when I went to stand up I realized basically every muscle on my body was rapidly vibrating, not shaking - vibrating at the frequency of a body massager but not as intense. It was powerful enough to see my arms and legs moving slightly and to cause discomfort but not enough to overtake me. The vibration lasted the entire come up (45 minutes).

I know it was actually my muscles vibrating and not a body feeling brought on by the trip because after the experience was over my legs were sore after I had come up and after the trip had ended. I must say that was the weirdest thing that has happened to me physically that I can think of.

So I must ask, has anyone else experienced intense, high frequency muscle vibrations on mushrooms? I wonder if the rapid onset with lemontek had to do with it.

The hppd is from years ago, had it probably 2 years now, just some visual snow and occasional tracers.

Is it safe for me to do mushrooms again, do I risk making it worse, is it a sign I might be predisposed to schizophrenia.

I've been discussing elsewhere if there at all exists ongoing psychedelic circles where everyone use the psychedelic and they manage to go on like this for years? Almost 20 years ago I read a lot about psychedelics, but not lately. I am well familiar with shamanic circles as well as Santo Daime and UDV. But, to repeat my question do you know and can link me to any group that manage to make secular ceremonies? Youtube clips of them would also be appreciated.

I've recently ingested DMT for the first time. I vaporised about 30mg.

I'm not here to regale the experience, as frankly trip reports have been done to death, and I have nothing original to contribute.

What I'd like to know, though, is it normal to completely disappear? My experience was spectacular for 30 seconds or so until I dissolved into nothing. I have no recollection whatsoever until I came back to a fairly wobbly reality 15 minutes later.

Is a lack of lucidity during the experience normal? Did I take too much? Is it a focus thing? I strangely still really enjoyed it. Maybe there's some peace to be found in being completely gone? Nevertheless, I'd like to be able to experience the process with some awareness as others report.

I also wonder if it's like a dream that you thought you'd be able to remember until you wake up and then it's just gone. I dunno, give me your thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

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What is it like being old and taking drugs? What is different compared to taking them when younger? Are there any differences at all?

Yes there are. In fact, depending upon the drug in question, quite a few changes come with experience and age; but the most obvious physical manifestation relates to recovery. Recovery is often a much slower process, and is sometimes more challenging. This post explores and expands upon these aspects, with reference to my own exposure.

An Ageing Psychonaut

TRY TO BE FIT

First things first: not only am I old enough to remember The Beatles, but I self-administered 182 different drugs between 2008 and 2023. As many of you know, during this period I wrote The Drug Users Bible.

I was, however, in decent shape, despite the sedentary lifestyle of spending most of the day on my PC writing. During the first 10 years, when not away on an expedition, I went to the local swimming pool every morning for an unimpressive eight lengths, and then engaged various stretches to keep my ageing body supple and strong (lol). When the pool closed due to COVID I had to adjust, walking an hour or two every day instead. I lost weight and became fitter, and I believe that the enhanced fitness helped to sustain my drug-taking lifestyle.

PHYSICAL RECOVERY

To the direct topic in hand though; walking is particularly good for recovery following a heavy session with certain drugs. It aids circulation, helps digestion, promotes better sleep, and produces a whole raft of other related benefits.

For myself, this was especially notable with speed, but it applied to many other drugs too, including mephedrone, methamphetamine and MDMA.

Recovery from a session should ideally be pre-planned (check-out rollsafe.org). Commonly cited recovery aids include:

• General re-hydration
• Drinking orange/fruit juice
• Eating healthy meals, including food/drinks with electrolytes
• Careful use of supplements
• Plenty of rest/relaxation and showers.

Sleep is another: get as much as possible. If it has been a particularly excessive binge I have sometimes used a suitable sleep aid.

Some people suggest a toke of cannabis to ease the discomfort and stimulate appetite. Yes, I have occasionally taken this course, and I usually found it to be helpful (again depending upon the drug I was recovering from).

MENTAL RECOVERY

This is an important one: it helps to be aware that for a few days life can be coloured by the aftermath of the drug experience. Everything can look bleaker than it did previously. A real sense of depression can emerge. In severe cases you might even become distressed and, from time to time, feel like crying. Yes; your entire existence can seem to be absolutely shit.

A Difficult Aftermath

What can help with this, apart from the practical physical steps above?

Knowing why this is happening (the drug) certainly helps: basically, knowing that it will pass. One trick is to focus upon a point in time 72 or 96 hours ahead: understanding that you will be generally happier at that juncture. You just have to get through those days. This is a mental exercise but it can really help to have a target.

BTW: One thing you don’t do is head back to the same (or a similar) drug.

I would also avoid making any serious life decisions whilst your mood is artificially low. If you are able to, delay anything of this nature until you are fully recovered. Do take this advice seriously.

Finally, if you need emotional or any similar support, don’t hesitate to seek it out. A problem shared isn’t exactly a problem halved, but it does help some people.

LOOK AFTER YOURSELF

Generally a young healthy body is likely to recover from physical problems faster than an old healthy body, and this definitely applies to drugs. Fortunately I have found that all the above suggestions apply regardless of age. It just takes longer as you get older, and the aches and pains are more obvious.

If you are ageing, take a little more care of yourself, and prepare for, and factor-in, a harsher aftermath and an extended recuperation period.

I will end on a positive note though, so roll the drums: here comes the good news… drugs don’t stop being fun when you are old

Dominic Milton Trott

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I read in several places that somebody can trip on smoked Yopo seeds. I tried to smoke yopo with Syrian rue. Sorry, but no effects at all. Slight buzz but no visuals. Still glad I tried it out.

I'm not sure how to even word this post but basically, I've realized I've been having major issues with weed lately, even in small amounts. Ill feel numb and 'off, increasingly so to start, cold/tired/want to just sleep on 'some amount' and on 'large amounts' I'll gain huge insights into problems that I'm having.

Problem obviously is that the last thing is great but is hampered by 'yeah I feel like shit' or 'yeah I'm exhausted time to pass out'. It's never like 'one second I'm awake the next it's 5 hours later'... But it's immensely frustrating and scary how bad it's been lately, even from what I consider small amounts.

I'm kinda at a loss on what to do, I feel like I need weed (or a psychedelic overall) as the insights are GENUINELY important shit that I can't seem to grasp when sober... But it's also just causing way too many issues and I feel like I'm almost 'forcing' these insights and that it feels... Unhealthy is the word that comes to mind.

So... Idk. Do I stop weed entirely? A break (long? Short?)? Do I even trip at all? Is this 'right'? I'm at a loss and I feel like I'm not sure what the next move is. Any ideas?