/r/RadioQuietZone
Our wikis are at
https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/wiki/index
Green Bank Observatory. Radio quiet zones in West Virginia, Australia and Puerto Rico. Off grid areas outside of the radio quiet zone which do not have cell reception. Electromagnetic hypersensitive communities in the world.
Wikis
https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/wiki/index
Related subs
/r/electromagnetics
r/electromagnetics is a health sub for people with radio wave sickness or electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS). /r/electromagnetics covers:
Adverse health effects of electromagnetic fields, cell phones, cell towers, smart meters, wi-fi, etc.
Radio wave sickness (RWS) diagnosis and treatment
Biomarkers of RWS and brain zapping
Diagnosis and treatment for brain zapping
Meter reviews. How to use meters. Meter reports.
Shielding
earthing, etc.
mobile phone addiction, internet addiction, social media addiction and internet gaming addiction. ws, tutorials, practical advice, forum threads, questions, referrals to health care practitioners, biomarkers, lab tests, treatments, meters, shielding, earthing, etc. EMF causes multiple chemical sensitivity, neurotransmitter imbalances, brain injury, depression, addiction, insomnia, tinnitus, demyelination, mold infection, electromagnetic hypersensitivity.
/r/targetedenergyweapons is a scientific targeted individual type sub. /r/TargetedEnergyWeapons covers meter measuring radar and infrasound, heavy duty shielding, laws on electronic torture and directed energy weapons attacks, brain zapping, microwave auditory effect (V2K), wireless sensor networks, etc.
Rules
1) No personal attacks, ad hominems, trolling, swearing, bullying or doxxing. No discrediting OPs unless they wrote the research. Reddiquette applies.
2) No bullying of /r/RadioQuietZone, its mods, TIs or other redditors sick from electronic torture, directed energyweapons and/or electromagnetic fields (EMF) in this sub or in other subs. Be civil even if you disagree with another redditor.
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[Arizona] Seeking camping partner this month to take meter reports while camping off grid in Arizona.
Dolan Springs and Meadview in La Paz county. I have camped off grid in Arizona before. Torture is less despite torture by low earth orbit satellite. I need to spend more time off grid to decide whether to buy a solar home. BLM land in La Paz county is mostly off grid.
The end of November 2024:
Selby realty sent me listing in Dolan Springs but they all had electricity.
Bouse realty did not respond to my request for off grid.
Meadview has one off grid property and Golden Valley near Kingman has a few. However, listings have very little information.
They are mobile homes and old shacks.
Photos do not show solar panels. Why no solar panels? Where they stolen?
Are there outlets and wiring in the walls for solar?
Since there is no electricity and natural gas, there should be propane for propane wall heaters, refrigerator, water heater, stove and oven. The photos do not show a propane tank in the side yard.
Do propane companies deliver propane there?
Insulation? What year did county start requiring insulation?
How many miles on dirt road?
Legal easement? It was not until recently that the State of Arizona passed a law requiring notice by seller to buyer if there is no legal easement.
They do not have septic. Septic permit and septic are required by the county. How to install septic when there is a mobile there?
Single wides are not worth fixing up. They don't appreciate. Would cost approximately $4,000 to haul to land fill. Property with a single wide are over priced.
None have a well. All have a water tank.
Acreage is as tiny as 1 acre. Probably, county requires 2 acres.
Considering few amenities and incomplete development of the site, hardly benefits by buying a home off grid. Financially better to buy at least two acres of land and move in a tiny house.
17:26 UTC
[Oklahoma] Seeking help researching what areas of the open Indian reservation in SE Oklahoma are off grid. What to explore it together
23:33 UTC
[Satellites] Letter to the Editor by John Howard regarding Starlink internet by Elon Musk's SpaceX
November 6, 2024
John Howard commented to this newspaper article:
Editor,
I read with utter disgust the article about Starlink. You have got to be kidding? You obtained a 99.5% win, and you can’t be happy with that? Why can’t the good folks in the remaining .5% be left alone?
A few questions come to mind for the disgruntled: If Starlink were to interfere too much with the Green Bank Observatory, eventually forcing it to close, what do you think would happen to the population in the Green Bank area? How many jobs would be lost? How many school children would leave? What would happen to other local businesses?
Are they not aware that the Green Bank Observatory contributes nearly $30 million a year to the local and state economies?
How did people get emergency help before the idea of Starlink? I personally have three friends who have needed lifesaving emergency services. 911 was called and first responders arrived in minutes. They were then transported to area hospitals in record time. They received excellent, timely care.
What about the growing population of tax paying Electromagnetically Injured citizens who seek refuge in the quiet zone from this ever increasing wireless world? Are they not human beings deserving of a safe place to live as well? Where the author proposes the potential for unsafe emergency management, these folks are sure to be harmed if Starlink were to enter this area. They now number in the hundreds in Pocahontas County, concentrated in the 10-mile radius around the telescope. The 10-mile radius is the .5% the article is talking about.
To learn more about the biological effects of electromagnetic radiation please visit Environmental Health Trust at EHTrust.org Trust me, this is the information that BigTech does not want you to know about.
I leave you with one final thought. The Radio Quiet Zone is a rare and precious place. Once it’s gone, there is no getting it back. Be careful what you wish for.
John Howard Green Bank
21:15 UTC
[Satellite] 'More than 99.5% of residents in the NRQZ can now receive satellite internet service' (Starlink)
21:05 UTC
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Satellites] 'We are the 0.5%' (with limited Starlink) by Pocahontas County Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Management published by Pocahontas Times newspaper dated October 31, 2024
https://pocahontastimes.com/we-are-are-the-0-5/
Emergency Management officials are raising critical questions and voicing deep concerns. In response to recent announcements by the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO) and SpaceX saying they are providing satellite internet availability in the National Radio Quiet Zone (NRQZ), While news broke that 99.5% of NRQZ residents will gain access to Starlink’s high-speed internet services, it comes with the unsettling caveat that this “improvement” is actually a step back for connectivity within the NRQZ. Up until August, 100% of NRQZ residents, visitors and Public Safety had access to the Starlink Roam model, which is now being restricted. This allowed people to contact 911 from more locations than ever before and gave first responders better communications to serve the public.
This means that despite headlines touting progress, a 0.5% gap has been created leaving behind individuals and communities in Pocahontas and Pendelton Counties by limiting their communication options. “Who is asking about the people left without coverage?” asks Pocahontas County 911 Emergency Management Director, Michael O’Brien. “What about the 246 faculty and students at Green Bank Elementary-Middle School and their families?
What about the hundreds of thousands of visitors our counties host each year? Are they not deserving of the same safety, connectivity and modern communications technology avail- able to the rest of the country and the world?”
Public Safety Compromised: Questions That Deserve Answers
Despite the positive spin by the NRAO and Space X, there are glaring problems that must be addressed—issues critical to public safety, healthcare, law enforcement, and to the general prosperity of the community. Among these are:
• Exclusion of Local Emergency Management: Why have all local emergency management officials throu-ghout the NRQZ been excluded from these critical discussions on satellite- based internet and communications access? Our knowledge of local conditions, response needs, and community dynamics is fundamental to any real solution.
• Impact on Public Safety Services: The NRAO and NSF have not requested our input on how these changes will affect first responders’ ability to deliver critical services. Without our input they are claiming success that is strictly focused on their needs, and not the needs of public safety and communities within the restricted zones. Seconds matter in emergencies, and restricted connectivity makes those seconds harder to manage and ultimately puts lives at risk.
• Lack of NSF Action: Why is NSF, an organization with a public mandate, avoiding accountability? There has been no comprehensive public discussion on balancing research goals with the essential needs of local communities.
• Disproportionate Burden on Communities for the Sake of Scientific Research: Should citizens of Pocahontas County and neighboring regions in West Virginia and Virginia have to accept increased risk during day-to-day emergencies simply to support astronomy research? Research institutions using the Green Bank Observatory and other NRAO facilities depend on an NRQZ, yet the local communities bear the burden.
99.5% Safety is Not Enough
Safety is not a “close enough” calculation. In any other U.S. region, the population would have the right to purchase and use any form of modern communications equipment they want. Telling 0.5% of the NRQZ population, “Sorry, your safety and connectivity are secondary to scientific research” is not acceptable. Why are we an exception?
Local communities, elect-ed officials, and public advocates need to call for immediate attention to this critical issue. Why are Governor Jim Justice and other publicly elected officials remaining silent on this? To date, ten counties have passed resolutions highlighting their worries about the growing eminent domain of radio frequency spectrum within the NRQZ.
Submitted by the Pocahontas County Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Management
20:58 UTC
[Meter Reports: Bluetooth] Three bluetooth signals emitted by AT&T DECT phone in conference room at Green Bank library.
19:26 UTC
[WIKI] Radio Quiet Zone: Meter Reports: Bluetooth
[Meter Reports: Bluetooth] Three bluetooth signals emitted by AT&T DECT phone in conference room at Green Bank library.
[Meter Reports: Bluetooth] 27 bluetooth signals at Community Care of Green Bank
[Meter Reports] [Bluetooth] Three bluetooth signals at Green Bank Senior Center
21:08 UTC
[WIKI] Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Meter Reports: Cell Signals
[RQZ: WV] [Meter Reports: Cell Site Simulators] Free phone apps detected Westell Technologies cell site simulator at my storage unit in Sugar Grove, WV.
[RQZ: WV] [Meter Reports: Cell Site Simulators] CellTracker app hacked by cell site simulator or 5G satellite in the radio quiet zone?
[RQZ:WV] [Meter Reports] Samsara PCS mobile hot spot, a wi-fi hot spot and a hidden wireless network quickly appeared and disappeared at my storage facility in the radio quiet zone.
19:58 UTC
[Meter Reports: Wifi] Three hidden wireless networks and six wifi signals at neighbor's side of L's long wall of only one layer of aluminum window screen at Back Draft Road, Green Bank.
19:49 UTC
[WIKI] Radio Quite Zone: Meter Reports: Wifi
[Meter Reports: Wi-Fi] 31 hidden wireless networks and 41 wi-fi signals at Community Care of Green Bank
[Meter Reports] [Wi-Fi] Five Wi-Fi signals at Green Bank Senior Center
[Meter Reports: Wifi] Three hidden wireless networks and six wifi signals at neighbor's side of L's long wall of only one layer of aluminum window screen at Back Draft Road, Green Bank.
[Meter Reports] Wanted: Redditors to read the meter instructions in the meter wikis, to update the instructions and to teach how to use meters and write meter reports and shielding reports in r/electromagnetics, r/RadioQuietZone and r/targetedenergyweapons.
[RQZ: WV] [Meter Reports: Cell Site Simulators] Free phone apps detected Westell Technologies cell site simulator at my storage unit in Sugar Grove, WV.
[RQZ: WV] [Meter Reports: Cell Site Simulators] CellTracker app hacked by cell site simulator or 5G satellite in the radio quiet zone?
[RQZ:WV] [Meter Reports] Samsara PCS mobile hot spot, a wi-fi hot spot and a hidden wireless network quickly appeared and disappeared at my storage facility in the radio quiet zone.
19:36 UTC
[WIKI] Radio Quiet Zone: Requests for Accommodations in Accordance with the Americans with Disabilities Act
[RQZ: WV] Mountain Transit Authority refuses to pick people up in the radio quiet zone who do not have a landline phone. Refuses reservations and confirmations by email.
[RQZ: WV] [Wi-Fi] Pocahonatas County Senior Citizens, Inc. denied Americans with Disability (ADA) request to turn off wi-fi and Bluetooth at Green Bank Senior Center
[RQZ: WV: Groups] [Wi-fi] Thanksgiving Potluck Dinner and discussion on mitigating wi-fi
November 2, 2024
Request to be accommodated for glare sensitivity at Green Bank library. ICD-10-CM Code for Glare sensitivity H53.71 - AAPC https://www.aapc.com/codes/icd-10-codes/H53.71#:~:text=ICD%2D10%2DCM%20Code%20for,71
Hallie denied all the alternative options I requested.
Request to be accommodated for blue light sensitivity. ICD-10 Code H53.14 for light sensitivity and computer vison syndrome.
19:26 UTC
[Meter Reports] [Bluetooth] Three bluetooth signals at Green Bank Senior Center
17:59 UTC
[Meter Reports] [Wi-Fi] Five Wi-Fi signals at Green Bank Senior Center
17:58 UTC
Green Bank library has glaring LED spot lights that glare in the eyes of computer users. FDA Sued Over LED Safety Regulations
17:52 UTC
[WIKI] Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Satellites
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Satellite] After 10 West Virginia counties, along with one county in Virginia, called for change regarding the communication restrictions inside RQZ Starlink satellite internet is expanding its services in the area.
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Satellites] SpaceX statellite internet now available in the radio free zone in WV and VA
[Satellites] [RZ: WiFi] Why Low-Earth Orbit Satellites Are the New Space Race
[5g: Satellites] Before 2020 Is Over, SpaceX Will Offer Satellite Broadband Internet
[5G: Satellites] The FCC's Approval of SpaceX's Starlink Mega Constellation May Have Been Unlawful
https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/er6u21/5g_satellites_the_fccs_approval_of_spacexs/
20:39 UTC
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Satellites] After 10 West Virginia counties, along with one county in Virginia, called for change regarding the communication restrictions inside RQZ Starlink satellite internet is expanding its services in the area.
West Virginia counties ask for changes to Quiet Zone
https://www.newsandsentinel.com/news/local-news/2024/10/counties-ask-for-changes-to-quiet-zone/
Pendleton County continues to seek changes to NRQZ as more counties join the call
20:36 UTC
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Satellites] SpaceX statellite internet now available in the radio free zone in WV and VA
20:26 UTC
[WIKI] Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Preparing For Interviews by Reporters
[RQZ: WV: WiFi] Fake news by the Washington Post that the radio quiet zone does not have wifi and cordless phones.
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV] Interviewees should have a jointly written fact sheet and written agreement to give to reporters.
Part 3: A healthy spouse of an electrosensitive gave Washington Post reporter outdated information. Interviewees should have electromagnetic hypersensitivity. Interviewees should not be family members of electrosensitives unless disclosed as such and are up to date with current studies and news.
21:36 UTC
Part 3: A healthy spouse of an electrosensitive gave Washington Post reporter outdated information. Interviewees should have electromagnetic hypersensitivity. Interviewees should not be family members of electrosensitives unless disclosed as such and are up to date with current studies and news.
The Washington Post reporter had not disclosed the spouse is not an electrosensitive. The reporter had not disclosed he received information other than from the identified interviewees. However, he not only received information from a healthy person. He published the information.
People wishing to be interviewed should submit a comment here and disclose whether they are an electrosensitive. Interviewees should be restricted to people with electrosensitivity who have resided in the radio quiet zone for a minimum of one year and who have had electromagnetic hypersensitivity for a minimum of one year.
Healthy people and electrosensitivites, regardless of how long they have electromagnetic hypersensitivity, can contribute to drafting and updating a fact sheet to give to reporters:
The spouse told the Washington Post that "there’s no true scientific consensus on their illness, though they point out that Sweden recognizes electrohypersensitivity (EHS) as a functional impairment — albeit a self-reported condition, also."
The reporter had not cited the study. Perhaps the spouse had not cited it. The study is:
This study was published in 2006. The spouse is out of the loop. Meaning the spouse brought up an 18 year old study as if there were no recent studies. There are more recent studies. Perhaps being a spouse, he has no interested in learning any further. Hence, he should not have been interviewed by the Washington Post reporter.
The spouse assumed a study conducted in a country means the country acknowledges that medical condition. Whereas, it does not. There is nothing online that states the government or medical establishment of Sweden acknowledges EHS or awards disability income.
By discussing only a foreign country, the spouse implied there are no studies on EHS in the United States and implied EHS is not recognized in the United States. Whereas, ICD diagnostic codes and studies published in medical journals were cited in part 2.
Please submit future studies in r/electromagnetics. Archive the studies into the EHS wikis in r/electromagnetics. Cite the wikis to reporters.
19:31 UTC
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV] Interviewees should have a jointly written fact sheet and written agreement to give to reporters.
This is part 2. Written agreement was discussed in part 1 at:
Instead of showing off their homes, interviewees should submit a jointly written fact sheet to reports. At the very least, refer sources such as r/RadioQuietZone subreddit for reporters can learn about the radio quiet zone. Refer r/electromagnetics submit, the largest electromagnetic hypersensitive forum in the world, for reporters can learn about electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS).
In all of the fake news, interviewees appear dumb. They don't research and read about where they reside and about their medical condition,
Referring Brandon, who has resided here a mere two weeks, to a Washington Post reporter was a mistake. Brandon could not describe the radio quiet zone. Only long term residents should be referred as interviewees to reporters.
Referring Brandon, who very recently became electrosensitivity was a mistake. The reporter wrote Brandon suspected a cell tower a quarter mile away was making him sick. Brandon made no effort to find an electromagnetic hypersensitivity support group. Had he asked in r/electromagnetics if a cell tower was making him sick, he would have been asked to download a free cell tower meter app.
[WIKI] Meters Apps: Cell Tower Locators
https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/epvp3x/wiki_meter_apps_cell_tower_locators/
Brandon would have been asked to submit a meter report and given examples.
[WIKI] Meter Reports: Cell Towers
https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/ehragl/wiki_meter_reports_cell_towers/?
None of the interviewees mentioned they use free meter apps or a hand held meter. None submitted a meter report to reporters. Being ignorant of metering makes electrosensitives appear dumb and lazy.
Interviewees don't inform reporters what prohibitions Green Bank Observatory actually enforces. In 2019, I invited EHS residents to come with me to ask Mike Holstine questions. No one wanted to. I took notes. I created r/RadioQuietZone subreddit and submitted my notes:
[RQZ: WV] Green Bank Observatory's policy regarding wi-fi and bluetooth
I started a support group. I invited Mike Holstine to speak. Few attended. No one wanted to take notes. I took notes and submitted them on reddit:
[RQZ: WV] Observatory scientist will answer questions at the electromagnetic hyypersensitivity support group meeting
https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/bebpm1/rqz_wv_observatory_scientist_will_answer/
Residents here are ignorant. No one reads the posts. No one residing in the radio quiet zone refers reddit other than me.
They do not know what the Green Bank Observatory does actually prohibits and enforces the prohibitions.
I shouldn't have to reread the above mentioned two posts. Read them. I will summarize.
(1) Smart meters are banned in zones 1 through 4. Zone 5 has automated meter readers. Hypocritically, people refer newcomers to Mountain Quest in zone 5. Mountain Quest takes money from newcomers but does not accommodate them. Mountain Quest refused to ask Mon Power to opt out of automatic meter readers.
[RQZ: WV] [Smart Meters] Green Bank Observatory's policy on electric meters and gas meters in the radio quiet zone.
[RQZ: WV: Radiofrequency] Part two: No opt out to keep analogue meters in West Virginia.
[RQZ: WV: Radiofrequency] Part 3: EHS people refer Mountain Quest B&B to EHS visitors but neither they nor Mountain Quest disclose zone 5 has AMR electric meters. Will Mon Power allow zone 5 to op out?
(2) Prohibition of LED street lights is enforced in zones 1 through 4:
LED street lights emit harmful blue light, flicker and emit radiofrequency as they are controlled by a computer.
[WIKI] Street lights: LED
https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/a4k8f7/wiki_led_street_lights/
None of the interviewees in the newspaper articles in the fake news wiki had informed reporters that smart meters and LED street lights are prohibited and the prohibition is enforced. Are they oblivious to the absence of smart meters and LED street lights? People have become electromagnetic hypersensitive from smart meters.
Interviewees should inform reporters that injuries from electricity are acknowledged by the medical establishment in the United States as there is an ICD code for injuries from electricity.
Refer reporters to studies on electromagnetic hypersensitivity published in medical journals:
[WIKI] EHS: Diagnosis
https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/42jeem/wiki_ehs_diagnosis/
[WIKI] Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity (EHS): Recognition
https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/42b4ar/wiki_electromagnetic_hypersensitivity_ehs/
All the above should be in a fact sheet to hand to reporters. Use this post as an incomplete draft of a fact sheet. The completed fact sheet will be posted on r/radioquietzone for others to update and refer to. The written agreement should require reporters to refer to the updated fact sheet on r/radioquietzone.
Part 3:
18:26 UTC
[WIKI] Radio Quiet Zone: WV: WiFi] Fake News There is No WI-Fi
[RQZ: WV: WiFi] Fake news by the Washington Post that the radio quiet zone does not have wifi and cordless phones.
[RQZ: Wifi] Fake News from Pocahontas Times that Green Bank is "the only U.S. town where Wi-Fi and cell phones are either severely limited or basically useless."
[RQZ: WV: Wi-Fi] Fake news by the NY Times. Disinformation the radio quiet zone does not have wifi.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/iaikg4/rqz_wv_wifi_fake_news_by_the_ny_times/
[RQZ: WV: Wi-Fi] Fake news by Solid Signal the observatory prohibits wireless.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/iall8e/rqz_wv_wifi_fake_news_by_solid_signal_the/
Articles on Green Bank misinformation that wi-fi was banned
[RQZ: WV] [Wi-Fi] Fake news documentary WiFi Refugees by Russia Today
17:38 UTC
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV] How many minutes to copy and paste email notice of Halloween party into a post in r/RadioQuietZone?
Jensen Halloween Party Details-2496 Potomac Highlands Ave., Dunmore
BOO! heehee 🎉 😎 🎃
You're invited to our Halloween Party(s), with costumes encouraged but not essential, at the Jensen house (2496 Potomac Highlands Trail, Dunmore, WV 24934). We decided to host a gathering on BOTH dates. You are welcome to come to either or both of these gatherings, as you are able.
Saturday, October 26th AND Thursday, October 31st
On both dates, we'll begin at 3:00, (no set end time, depart at your own pleasure)
Food options will be potluck. I'll be making two cauldrons of Chili - one vegan, and one not.
Bring your own beverages.
We will have the power off (except for the water pump) and will have smokeless olive oil lamps for light as needed.
Board and card games encouraged, the pool table will be open.
A craft table with a make and take seasonal decoration activity is planned.
We're hoping to have some kind of group game - optional participation, of course. We're open to suggestions for that.
FYI - Cats are present in the home.
To show respect and accommodate as many of us as possible we ask the following actions from those who come:
No cell phones in the house - turned off and left in your vehicle is okay No fragrances - many of us are very sensitive to these.
Email me at crusherkitty@gmail.com or call the house - 681-206-7112 if you have any questions or concerns.
You are welcome to invite others to come join the fun.
We're looking forward to seeing you and enjoying the season with you!
Nancy, Neil and Levi
17:09 UTC
[RQZ: WV: WiFi] Fake news by the Washington Post that the radio quiet zone does not have wifi and cordless phones.
We should not consent to be interviewed unless we have the opportunity to proofread the draft of the article and correct it. Reporters perpetuate the myth there is no wifi. Washington Post disinformed further by alleging cordless phones are prohibited. Ask for a written agreement to proofread and correct. The agreement should provide that interviewees have the right to review content prior to publication. If found fake, interviewees have the right to demand correction. If not corrected, interviewees have the write to deny being interviewed and photographed.
At its center is a 10-mile zone around the observatory where WiFi, cellphones and cordless phones — among many other types of wave-emitting equipment — are outlawed.
Only zones 1 -2 prohibit wifi, cell phones and cordless phones. The Green Bank library is in zone 2. The library has a cordless phone in the conference room/kitchen. The AT&T DECT phone emits DECT signals between 1880 and 1900 Mhz and bluetooth. The DECT and bluetooth signals have strong power density and extend throughout the library. We will be requesting the library to come into compliance.
There is no prohibition of wifi and cordless phones in zones 3 and 4. Green Bank and Arbovale are in zone 3. Boyer, Cass and Dunmore are in zone 4.
Wired internet is okay, as are televisions — though you must have a cable or satellite provider. It’s not a place out of 100 years ago. More like 30. If you want to make plans to meet someone, you make them in person.
For decades, "cable" refers to cable TV. There is no cable TV. There is DSL internet and fiber optic internet. The modems of Frontier DSL internet and Spruce Knob and Frontier fiber optic internet emit wifi. Hughes Net satellite internet emits wifi and GPS. DirecttV and DishTV satellite TV dishes emit GPS. If you want to make an appointment with someone, you use your land line phone or email.
Recently, commissions from eight counties in the Quiet Zone passed resolutions expressing concern that the zone hinders public safety. They say that the limited cell and WiFi service leads to slower communications between first responders and can endanger lives throughout the zone’s 13,000 square miles. And nonsensitive residents of Green Bank continue to install WiFi, even if they aren’t supposed to.
See:
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Satellite] After 10 West Virginia counties, along with one county in Virginia, called for change regarding the communication restrictions inside RQZ Starlink satellite internet is expanding its services in the area.
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Satellites] SpaceX statellite internet now available in the radio free zone in WV and VA
Caption of photograph #11:
"And nonsensitive residents of Green Bank continue to install WiFi, even if they aren’t supposed to."
Please note that only by scrolling through eleven out of 12 photographs, did the reporter state that there is Wi-Fi.
Fake news that only in Green Bank is wifi prohibited. Therefore, people visiting misbelieve they have to pay the higher price of homes in Green Bank than the lower prices of homes in zones 4 and 5. Whereas, wifi is not prohibited in Green Bank. Wifi free areas are:
Fake news may bring more people visiting and moving to RQZ being led to believe there are no wifi and cordless phones. Who is going to tell them otherwise? No one in the radio quiet zone even refers this sub much less its wifi wiki:
[WIKI] Wi-fi: Fake news about wifi, governments regulations, lack of enforcement and mitigation.
Insulated wiring to protect from radio waves...."
Fake caption. Insulated house wiring does not protect from radio waves. Insulated house wiring shields electric field. This makes Electrosensitivity look crazy. They don't know the difference between electricity and radiofrequency. They think electricity is radiofrequency. Sue Howard should have asked for the above written agreement.
Reporter completely omitted electrosensitives are sensitive to electricity. Some electrosensensitives are more sensitive to electricity than radiorequency.
Crossposted in r/electromagnetics so its 5,777 electrosensitive subscribers can be shocked how electrosensitives in the radio quiet zone don't give a damn for accurate reporting:
Nor do Electrosensitivity give a damn to comment on reddit.
Part 2
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV] Interviewees should have a jointly written fact sheet and written agreement to give to reporters.
21:02 UTC
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Heat and Insulation] Winterization instructions for well equipment, water heater, sinks, bath tubs, etc.
In the event you lose these instructions, you can print them online at
https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1g51rzq/radio_quiet_zone_wv_heat_and_insulation/
If I am residing in Dunmore when you move in, I will show you and if you want to pay someone to winterize, I will show both of you how to winterize. If you vacate before I depart for the sunbelt, I will winterize. If you vacate during warm months (June to September), you won’t need to winterize. If you vacate during freezing weather (October through May), you will need to winterize or pay someone to do it.
KEEP ON CIRCUIT BREAKER #15 WHICH HAS 3 HEAT TAPES. KEEP ELECTRICITY ON DURING FREEZING WEATHER FOR 3 HEAT TAPES. RV antifreeze is not sold in Pocahontas county. RV antifreeze is sold in the RV section next to the auto section of Walmart. Amazon sells RV antifreeze.
Keep electricity on in your name until Mon Power reopens my account. If electricity is shut off, the three heat tapes won’t be able to prevent the well equipment from freezing.
If you don’t winterize or don’t winterize correctly and if damages you cause are more than the winterization deposit, damages will be deducted from your security deposit.
BEFORE TURNING OFF WATER: Water plants with garden hose. Jugs of water are stored in the event of a power outage or there is a leak or the well equipment malfunctions. Electricity operates wells. Refill any empty jugs with water in the linen closet in master bathroom, hall bathroom, breezeway and refrigerator. Leave a little space on top of jugs to prevent cracking from freezing weather.
Refill two blue 6 gallon water tanks in breezeway Refill quart canning jars in kitchen cabinet. Leave a little space on top. Move jars to refrigerator.
============================== TURN OFF WELL EQUIPMENT: Open skirting where a large black basalt rock is. Next to a black water line is coming out of the skirting. Turn off shut off valve with red handle. Below shut off valve is garden hose. Remove garden hose with a red wrench inside the box labeled plumbing on desk in garage. After removing garden hose, open low water drain. It is below the shut off valve and has a handle. Open red drain knob on T manifold to pressure tank. If difficult to open, use red wrench. Pressure tank is a tall cylinder near the power strip. Plug two heat tapes in power strip. Plug in power strip and third heat tape into outlet box. Outlet box is underneath the belly wrap and has a cover. It is next to the skirting.
Close skirting.
GARDENING EQUIPMENT Move things from yard to garage Remove nozzle sprayer from hoses, shake and store in cardboard box labeled “hose” on gardening shelf in garage. Detach hoses. Shake water from inside hoses. Store aluminum hose in large cardboard box labeled “hose” on gardening shelf in garage. Keep long hose in yard.
BATH TUBS Clean bath tub if dirty Open bathtub cold water and hot water knobs Unscrew shower heads. Shake water out. Place by sink. Unscrew middle piece from faucet from bath tubs. Shake water out. Place by sink. Pour 3 cups of antifreeze in bath tubs
TOILETS Clean toilets RV antifreeze is in the linen closet and under sink of hall bathroom. Turn shut off valve off on two toilets. Flush toilets to reduce water. Flush all your toilets until the bowls are empty. Using a plastic measuring cup with a handle, remove as much remaining water as you can from the toilet bowl and toilet tank The measuring cup with handle is in hall bathroom under the sink cabinet. Pour 3 cups of antifreeze in toilet tanks Pour 3 cups of antifreeze in toilet bowls
MASTER BATHROOM SINK Clean sink if dirty. Open hot water faucet of sink in master bathroom. Turn off shut off valve on hot water line to master bathroom sink The cold water line does not have shut off valve. Therefore, do not open cold water faucet if not turning water off throughout the mobile home. Pour 3 cups of RV antifreeze in sink. Save empty RV antifreeze jugs. Leave window in master bathroom cracked open to prevent mildew and mold. After winterizing master bathroom, put up sign on door “Winterized. Do not use.”
HALL BATHROOM SINK After closing shut off valve to well, open hot water and cold water faucets to hall bathroom sink. Pour 3 cups of RV antifreeze in sink. Save empty RV antifreeze jugs. Leave bathroom door open to prevent mildew and mold.
KITCHEN SINK Open cold water faucet and hot water faucet of kitchen sink Turn shut off valve on to hot water line of kitchen sink Turn shut off valve on to cold water line of kitchen sink. Pour 3 cups of RV antifreeze in kitchen sink. RV antifreeze is in cabinet below kitchen sink.
WATER HEATER Water heater is inside closet of the northeast bedroom. Turn on the red shut off valve on the hot water line. Turn on the red shut off valve on the cold water line. Open drain knob on bottom of water heater. If knob is difficult to turn, use the red wrench in the plumbing box on the desk in the garage. Leave drain open for water to go through hose to the ground.
==================== WATER JARS AND JUGS Bring in three solar water mason jars from yard to refrigerator. Empty glass drinking water jars in kitchen cabinet and refrigerator because last winter jars froze and broke. To prevent plastic one gallon water jugs from cracking, empty a little water from the gallon water jugs by the toilet and in the linen closet in master bathroom. If full, empty a little water from water jugs in crates in breezeway. If full, empty a little of vinegar from vinegar jugs in garage by gardening shelf. If you need more jugs for water, buy one gallon vinegar jugs. They are thicker, stronger and be used multiple times. Pour vinegar into large spray bottle on garden shelf. Fill vinegar jug with water. Label jug “water.”
CAR Move water bottles from car to heated room. Move tinctures from car to heated room.
MICE Unlock short door in breezeway to the under carriage. Throw mice bait underneath mobile home. Close bolt on door. Mice bat is in box in garage labeled “Bait.”
Inventory 2XL hoodies. Buy enough 2XL hoodies to wear over 1XL hoodies
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[WIKI] Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Weather: Annual wind speed, snowfall, # of rainy days, # of sunny days, monthly average high and low temperatures in Pocahontas county, Greenbrier county and Pendleton county
[RQZ: Weather] wunderground.com uses Arbovale weather station. Other weather websites, such as weather.com, use Elkins weather station.
[RQZ] 2021 cloudier than usual in the radio quiet zone. That means extremely cloudy. Little solar for passive solar and active solar.
[Radio Quiet Zone: WV] Summer ends middle of August. By August 14, 2024, four mornings in the 50's. Then 60's. Then four mornings in the 40's.
[RQZ: WV] No solar living in Appalachian mountains. Insufficient solar exposure in West Virginia.
[RQZ: Home Ownership] [RQZ: Weather] Pocahontas County does not have building codes. Older homes are stick built without insulation or poorly insulated. Newer homes are manufactured homes with inadequate insulation. Cold weather 10 months per year.
[RQZ: WV] [Weather] Weather of Boyer and Bartow in zone 4 of Pocahontas county
[RQZ: WV] [Weather] Solar energy in Pocahontas, Greenbrier and Pendleton counties
[RQZ: WV] [Weather] Sunshine and clouds in Pocahontas, Greenbrier and Pendleton counties
[RQZ: WV: Weather] Average wind speed, # of rainy days, # of sunny days, rain fall, monthly average high and low temperature in Sugar Grove and Brandywine compared to Green Bank
[RQZ: WV] Weather in zone 4
[RQZ: WV] Weather in zone 5 of Pocahontas county and Greenbier county, WV
[RQZ: WV] Weather in Green Bank: Annual wind speed, snowfall, # of rainy days, # of sunny days, monthly average high and low temperatures
[WV: VA] Annual snowfall of towns in Pocahontas county and Greenbrier county
[RQZ: WV] Elevation of towns in zones 3, 4 and 5 in West Virginia
[RQZ: WV] Wind speed of towns in Pocahontas, Greenbrier and Pendleton counties
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[WIKI] Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Insulation and Heating Homes
Also see the weather wiki:
[WIKI] Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Weather: Annual wind speed, snowfall, # of rainy days, # of sunny days, monthly average high and low temperatures in Pocahontas county, Greenbrier county and Pendleton county
Poll: Is the central heat enough by itself to heat your mobile home?
[RQZ: Weather] Electric furnace is not vented to the outdoors in mobile homes, cabins on blocks or a crawl space and older stick built houses with basements.
[RQZ: Weather] No company installs vented propane wall heaters in Pocahontas county. Southern States sells and installs vented heaters.
[RQZ: Home Ownership] [RQZ: Weather] Pocahontas County does not have building codes. Older homes are stick built without insulation or poorly insulated. Newer homes are manufactured homes with inadequate insulation. Cold weather 10 months per year.
[RQZ: Weather] No company installs vented propane wall heaters in Pocahontas county. Southern States sells and installs vented heaters.
Fiberglass batt insulation is held up by thin black fabric called "belly wrap" underneath mobile homes. Belly wrap is not made to last. Insulation falls down. Does replacing the belly wrap result in substantial heating savings to make it worth the expense?
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[Radio Quiet Zone: WV: Housing] Room for Rent in Dunmore Next to Green Bank
Two rooms in a 1993 double wide mobile home on 2.4 acres in Dunmore. Dimensions of double wide are 23 feet 4 inches x 39 feet long. In addition, there is an attached 115”L x 271”W breezeway and 282”L x 271”W two car garage.
Rent from May through September includes use of a six foot tall shelf in the breezeway, use of washer, dryer and clothesline, mailbox and electricity. Heat is electric.
October through April rent does not include heat which is an additional amount. I purchased a propane wall heater for the master bedroom. I will install it and purchased one for the living room and a propane tank if tenants want to pay for propane.
There is no phone, internet nor TV. People with EHS go to the library to use a library computer with an Ethernet cable. GB library does not have wifi and is 15 minutes away.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/1efvdss/rqz_wifi_wifi_free_zones/? To use your cell phone, drive to a town that has cell reception and grocery stores.
Or use wifi calling, [RQZ] Free wi-fi for wi-fi calling when a working pay phone is not near by. https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/comments/bu4nrh/rqz_free_wifi_for_wifi_calling_when_a_working_pay/
Master bedroom and master bathroom. $600 per month. $600 deposit.
Medium size furnished bedroom and shared bathroom $500 per month. $500 deposit. Dimensions of medium bedroom is 11 x 9 feet 9 inches. Furnished small bedroom is 9 feet 6 inches x 11 feet. Shared bathroom. $500 per month. $500 deposit. Because the bedrooms have a small closet, there is a six foot tall shelf you can use. Each room is for one adult. No couple or child.
Deposit is refundable if you leave your room, bathroom and kitchen clean and serve me an one month notice of termination. If you are renting for just 4 weeks, notice is not required.
Written rental agreement and written house rules. Shortest term is four weeks (28 days). Shorter rentals are in the lodging posts and campgrounds posts in www.reddit.com/r/RadioQuietZone/wiki/index
No mold. Roof does not leak. Commencing in 1974, HUD adopted standards for mobile homes. In 1996, HUD updated their standards. HUD requires mobile homes and modular homes to have insulation. HUD requires double pane windows and fiberglass insulation in walls, ceiling and belly wrap. My mobile home has the insulation required by HUD. I am one of the very few people in this county who installed additional insulation. I installed greenhouse sheeting on all double pane windows. Greenhouse sheeting is thicker than shrink wrap that is marketed for windows. Reflectix aluminum bubble pack insulation under new flooring in both bathrooms, Reflectix behind new paneling in NW bedroom, Reflectix behind new paneling in garage. Pipe insulation on pipes in kitchen, bathroom and water heater. Heat tape.
You will be required to do a chore two hours per week. You can choose from house cleaning, yard work, shopping while you do your shopping or forwarding my mail in a large priority envelope every 3 weeks. If you would like to do more than two hours per week, optional reduction of rent.
Proof of income required. If you receive social security income, bring your social security benefits statement or 1099. Friendly outdoor dog or cat is OK. No pit bulls nor a breed who would eat my neighbors' chickens. Yard is not fenced.
I had removed Spruce Knob's phone line because it was $70 per month, I had included it in the rent. No one could afford it. Many EHS people here have a cell phone and do wifi calling. They don't want to pay for both a cell phone and a landline phone. To do wifi calling, EHS people drive to wifi or cell reception when they grocery shop.
A back up battery inside the Spruce Knob's fiber optic box on the exterior wall and a back up battery inside Spruce Knob's fiber optic box inside of my home. At night when I turn off the electricity, the batteries pulse. You could have the phone line replaced after I leave end of September but must remove it before I return the end of April.
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