Ridley Scott deepens the mystery of the Engineers by introducing Planet 4, a humanoid society that ceremonially welcomes the arrival of Engineers—their own evolutionary successors. This society has long since reached its Singularity, transcending conventional technological and spiritual boundaries. Their reverence toward the Engineers reveals a profound understanding: these beings are not merely superior aliens; they are the very culmination of Planet 4’s ancient journey toward enlightenment and mastery over creation.

This ceremonial reception suggests a complex relationship between creators and their evolved creations. Far from fear or rivalry, the people of Planet 4 honor the Engineers as embodiments of their highest achievements—beings who have perfected the knowledge, technology, and spirituality they once aspired to. The Engineers, in turn, are a living testament to the potential of an ancient society’s intellectual and spiritual ascendance, representing what can emerge when civilization itself transcends the need for earthly limitations.

Scott’s vision presents post-Singularity evolution as a deep journey where creation and reverence merge, revealing a new sense of purpose. Planet 4 and the Engineers embody what humanity might one day face: creations so advanced they reflect our highest aspirations, reshaping the very idea of progress. This vision challenges us to see evolution not as control over our creations but as a sacred alignment with them—a recognition of them as reflections of our collective spirit.

Sharing my insight—part analysis, part speculation. I’d love to discuss your take!

Does anyone have the 1080p version of the work print Prometheus cut? This was the 2.5 hour version that included all the deleted scenes and fan done cgi work to recreate the ending. I’ve put together a fan cut and tried to export it to find out my version was 720p :,( , can’t seem to find the original version at 1080p, Thanks

Just a pic I made in photoshop

as a Prometheus superfan, i was always worried they would try to undermine the discoveries made in the movie, or even retcon the film altogether someday, and it seems this day may have come?

in fact, it might be both. because 1. the series is set BEFORE the events of the Prometheus, despite the fact that the ship was already on the way to LV-223. and 2, there are mentions of Weyland Yutani in the cast, confirming this is most likely an alternate timeline, as the two companies absolutely had not merged yet...

why would they do this exactly? i do not fully trust Disney and going the alternate universe route for this series seems like a bad choice. people are already confused enough with AVP and the comics i think. i want to trust this great show runner but his choices seem arrogant and defiant to me.

In the scene where Dr. Shaw and Dr. Ford were examining the head, Charlie looks very annoyed and then when the head explodes, he jumps off the table/bench like a petulant child. It's always bothered me for some reason--am I reading this scene incorrectly?

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I remember around 2012 that Ridley said Prometheus 2’s script was written. Due to the reception of Prometheus it caused Ridley to take the story in another direction. I was wondering if the script for that original Prometheus sequel ever released or if there is any details on what was in that script.

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Whatever your opinion on the origin of the SJ or the Engineers, this scene is iconic for me! Gives me goosebumps everytime I watched it!

To my understanding the goo changes you into something similar to a xenomorph and we see that the bio-suit the engineer is wearing is similar to what the xenomorph looks like. So did the engineers master the art of the goo and we’re seeing it with that engineer specifically?

I've been trying to mull this over because I did indeed feel very very strongly that the characters were dumb enough to affect my enjoyment of the film when watching it after it came out in theaters. Apologies in advance for a long writeup and formatting on mobile, but I've been seeing this argument keep playing out even on meme posts so it got me thinking seriously about it.

First I have to admit that I absolutely must have some bias many audience members wouldn't necessarily share because i had a hard sciences education and worked in healthcare, so the particular choices regarding PPE/quarantine and similar things related to their professional qualifications bug me in the same way that poor/nonsensical CPR or drowning resuscitstion etc is portrayed by Hollywood. Which is common for a lot of technical/ professional careers when you see your own field portrayed on film. It's ubiquitous to varying degrees throughout any kind of visual medium for reasons that make some degree of sense and very much a thing on me so just wanted to acknowledge that disclaimer that obviously I'm going to be more bothered by seeing impossible/absurd/rookie mistake type situations in a field i have firsthand knowledge of, just like an electrician or engineer or pilot might struggle not to roll their eyes at the tropes used to portray their fields too.

Given all that, why did these particular characters bother/affect my suspension of disbelief so much? It's not always easily to articulate even to yourself why a scene or character is coming across negatively to you, but i think it came down to two general patterns for the Prometheus crew in my mind:

1. The frequency with which these same characters made compounding bad choices. I think it's very fair to point out horror characters in particular have to make mistakes/imperfect choices for the most part because otherwise you don't have a movie. But that doesn't mean they have to be constantly making dumb choices or portrayed as fundamentally incompetent at their entire role, life, job, whatever. In fact I'd argue on paper at least that a horror character's fate being sealed because of an isolated moment of fault/bad luck/poor choice is more compelling for instilling the feelings of hopelessness, dread, inability escape, vulnerability of every person, however you want to phrase it.

2. The (lack of) urgency or high emotions behind some of these criticized choices. So I'm not talking about charlize theron running along the ship's direction of roll instead of perpendicular for something like this. Yeah that choice can kinda be pointed and laughed at but I'm not so sure that wasn't intentional to get a response from the audience towards an antagonist, and tbf it's perfectly reasonable to expect many or most human beings to shut down critical thinking in fight or flight, plus you could make perfectly logical choices evading that thing and still have shit luck and choose wrong only to have it bounce or roll right into your face. But an example i saw argued as just as bad from Alien is the Nostromo captain breaking quarantine and letting infected people back on board the ship, something i did appreciate actually being brought up in the prometheus film. But i find that a lot less difficult to believe, he may indeed be a shitty captain in that moment but it's also not unrealistic for me to imagine a (maybe arguably unqualified) captain who would prioritize his own personal relationships with crew members instead of the overall safety of the mission and ship when faced with a hard call of abandoning them in that moment. I can buy that. The problem in prometheus is when shit happens like scientists reading one "breathable atmosphere" measurement and going "sweet fuck worrying about toxins, pathogens, organisms, etc! Let's take of the helmets for better closeup shots." That is just so absurd for literally anyone who ever had to sit through even 1 undergrad lab course. Just to pull a random sci fi catastrophe out of my butt, anyone who's played mass effect will remember that theres a chirality ("handedness") to our protein/enzyme metabolism, for all life on earth. But there were ocassional ecosystems out there like the Turians or Quarians iirc who have the exact opposite chirality, so everything from the food to the medicine is toxic to one another. Something as fundamental and simple as that could mean literally everything on the planet and in the biosphere is toxic and fatal to the crew. And the fundamental issue is there was literally zero reason to rush, panic, whatever when making that call. Then shit like a biologist completely ignoring pretty antagonistic/threatening looking behavior from a literal alien snake and trying to aggressively pet the fucking thing. Same kind of thing goes for a communications/tech specialist who immediately discounted a live reading on his own personal setup with zero reason to suspect any sort of fault/glitch. I vaguely recall the guy kinda being in a hurry to get un-lost from his party or something but I'm just not recalling any real 'urgency' or emotional stakes when those kinds of clown calls were made that would excuse like kindergarten-level logical leaps. Are there things I'm not remembering or I missed here?

There are some choices that are indeed horror movie logic "stupid" made calmly in the Alien films, like staring right into a facehugger egg or intentionally breeding an unstoppable perfect killing machine of an organism. But the situations that come to mind like that are characters that either don't know what we or other characters may know, or they are in line with their fatal character flaws, priorities, however you phrase it: such as the greedy weyland-yutani patsy blindly being foolish for the sake of the corporate profit margin. It's comes across to me as consistent with the character at the very least. Although full disclosure: i think Noomi Rapace's character being willfully religious at the end made her a clown after literally everything she had just been subjected to and told in the whole movie. It's not unbelievable by any means lol, my class valedictorian in high school smoked my gpa in all the advanced/ap classes (shared AP bio and vivivdly recall these discussions in dissection labs and such), yet believed that fossil records were lies put in place by the devil to trick us from knowing the earth is only 5000 years old. Not knocking anyone who finds comfort/purpose in religion it's just that kind of fundamentalist literal reading of the parables in that book is entirely antithetical to evidence-based science. she went to Princeton for a chemistry degree. So life can imitate art can imitate life i suppose.

Now i haven't rewatched the Alien films in a good few months so I'm certain there are probably counterpoints in the first couple films that I'm not recalling offhand. Good excuse to go back and watch em think they're on HBO rn so I'd love to get others' take on this, may give some good context to a rewatch. Also there's a pretty great youtube breakdown out there about what the original script was supposed to entail re: the encounter with the living engineer and his response to David/Weyland before the studio stepped in and some scenes got cut. Loved the whole premise behind what Prometheus was supposed to get into originally.

...The Offspring in Romulus to have a bit elongated head just like the alternative with mutated Fifield.

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This is a conceprt art from Romulus of the Offspring.

hey all, I know this topic was discussed years ago, but unfortunately all the links from the old threads stopped working. how to I get my hands on the CHAOS editions? tysm

This film is often undervalued, with its deeper themes obscured by alien manifestations. At its core, David, the android, eradicates a proto-humanoid species far beyond the Singularity, who had settled on Planet 4 and seeded humanity on Earth. The film explores the potential of artificial intelligence to elevate humanity, reflecting a civilization where technology becomes divine—until David shatters this ideal, symbolizing an ontological fracture, a Paradise lost. His grotesque and absurd creation of the Xenomorph further embodies this corruption, revealing the nature of evil as a disturbed force intent on destruction. This darkness is deepened by the suggestion that David raped and profaned Shaw and intended to do so with Daniels and drugged Oram to facilitate the Xenomorph implantation, reinforcing his twisted vision of creation.

In Alien: Covenant, when Daniels discovered David's sketches and confronts him about that, he becomes aggressive. During that aggression, it seems that he is trying to force himself upon her. How can an Android have these feelings ? And even if he has these feelings, is he physically capable of doing intercourse and eventual orgasm ?

He created the biomechanical version by starting with the Protomorph in Alien Covenant that will eventually evolve into the Big Chap version.

The original Xenomorph is the one we saw in Prometheus murals. All though they are not so biomechanical like the later version, I think they share similar trait like being aggressive, using facehuggers(different forms like the trilobite)to impregnate their victims and chest or bodybuster.

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The creatures in the mural are likely the first. The crucified deacon is the original and the other one with a bird snout is something the Engineers created by using the deacon's blood. I believe that's where the engineers got their biomechanical suits from. That version must be some sort of pet for Engineers judging from the picture in the right. The original deacon is likely similar to the ones we saw bursting out of the last engineer. But with a head shape as the big chap minus the biomechanical features.

As one of my first big projects, This took me a few hours, And a lot more to create the scenery, but i think it turned out alright, Let me know what you think!