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Subreddit for FOX TV series Prodigal Son, created by Chris Fedak & Sam Sklaver and starring Tom Payne. Series Finale Airs Next Tuesday at 9/8c on FOX!

SEASON 2 AIRING TUESDAYS AT 9/8c ON FOX

Subreddit for the FOX TV Series Prodigal Son

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Prodigal Son: Malcolm Bright knows how killers think and how their minds work, because his father, Dr. Martin Whitley, was one of the most notorious serial killers, called "The Surgeon." Alongside his longtime mentor, Gil Arroyo, and detectives Dani Powell and JT Tarmel, he helps the NYPD solve crimes by profiling killers, while also dealing with a manipulative mother, an annoyingly normal sister, and a homicidal father still looking to bond with his prodigal son.

New Episodes Airing Tuesdays Starting January 12 at 9/8c on FOX


Episode Discussions

Season 2

2021

New Episodes Tuesdays at 9/8c on FOX

Episode Air Date
S2 E1 "It’s All In The Execution" Jan 12
S2 E2 "Speak of the Devil" Jan 19
S2 E3 "Alma Mater" Jan 26
S2 E4 TBA Feb 2

Season 1

2019-20

Episode Air Date
S1 E1 "Pilot" Sep 23
S1 E2 "Annihilator" Sep 30
S1 E3 "Fear Response" Oct 7
S1 E4 "Designer Complicity" Oct 14
S1 E5 "The Trip" Oct 21
S1 E6 "All Souls and Sadists" Oct 28
S1 E7 "Q&A" Nov 4
S1 E8 "Family Friend" Nov 11
S1 E9 "Pied-A-Terre" Nov 25
S1 E10 "Silent Night" Fall Finale Dec 2
S1 E11 "Alone Time" Jan 20
S1 E12 "Internal Affairs" Jan 27
S1 E13 "Wait & Hope" Feb 3
S1 E14 "Eye of the Needle" Feb 10
S1 E15 "Death's Door" Feb 17
S1 E16 "The Job" Mar 16
S1 E17 "Stranger Beside You" Mar 23
S1 E18 "Scheherazade" Mar 30
S1 E19 "The Professionals" April 20
S1 E20 "Like Father..." Season Finale April 27

Cast

  • Tom Payne as Malcolm Bright
  • Michael Sheen as Dr. Martin Whitly
  • Lou Diamond Phillips as Gil Arroyo
  • Halston Sage as Ainsley Whitly
  • Aurora Perrineau as Dani Powell
  • Frank Harts as JT Tarmel
  • Keiko Agena as Dr. Edrisa Guilfoyle
  • Bellamy Young as Jessica Whitly

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How come Prodigal Son is on Max?

Apparently Prodigal Son was a fox show. I think I had watched it on hulu when season 2 was releasing.

But I was searching on max for something to watch and found it there.

3 Comments
2024/05/01
08:41 UTC

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Ms. Capshaw and a realization

I realized that through Capshaw and other bits the show does explain Martin a bit.
At first I didn't think too much about her, but it occurred to me how she is a really big part of the show for Martin and I think he does goes through a profound change at around the point that he interacts with her. And I was trying to figure out why, and it occurred to me that I think she represents what his mother was likely like.
Okay for one, Butterscotch, reward of a butterscotch!? That alone. But like every interaction she has with him is very parental. And his core trauma, at least according to him, is that he felt forced to control himself to perfection. Well, anyways, I think you can see how a mother like that could create that sort of child. A prodigal son of sorts.. haha. Nevermind..
Anyways I have lots of other thoughts also around control and the family as a whole that I may post at some point. But I do think this is a very key thing this interaction.

0 Comments
2024/03/19
02:08 UTC

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Malcolm's meds?

Hi! I'm currently rewatching the show (for the nth time), and I came to wonder if anyone here knows what meds Malcolm takes. I can think of some categories that would make sense as prescriptions, but I'd love something more concrete, if possible.

Thanks!

3 Comments
2024/03/17
02:12 UTC

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Happy accidental find

Accidentally hit the tv remote and discovered that Prodigal Son is streaming on the CW app (actually didn’t even know my tv had this option, but a happy find!) Starting my rewatch on S1 E1 and already sad that this show was canceled. Settling in for an early morning binge lol

1 Comment
2024/03/12
12:10 UTC

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Malcolm's state at the end of the show.

So to me one of the biggest mysteries (hence the show title), is will Malcolm end up like his father at some point.
But I don't feel like the end of season 2 did show that he did. There was cold calculation in his knowing he was gonna send his father back to prison, and set his dad up for that. And I do feel like it must have been a terrible sense of sorrow and betrayal to his father.
-And I am very conflicted in how I feel about their relationship as well. (Which I may write another post about that.)

So while Malcolm did kill/or injure his father, that was self defense. It wasn't actually his 'dark side,' so much. Which honestly.. i had expected Malcolm to have a much bigger fall then he did have in this show.I do really like the detail about his hand not shaking anymore though.

edit: Also one other thing that to me hints they were not done with his arc and there was a good chance he may have gotten worse is that he was experiencing the hallucinations which seemed like a huge flag that he was getting worse overall and that hadn't really culminating to anything.

11 Comments
2024/03/09
08:27 UTC

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Tom Payne on wanting a final season Prodigal Son

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2024/03/08
19:21 UTC

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Question from someone wanting to watch show

Hi I haven't seen this show yet, but I heard Michael Sheen is a villain in this, and that fans of the show Hannibal would like this show. I was wondering if Michael gets a lot of screen time in this and if the comparison to Hannibal in terms of vibes and characters was accurate, thank you

8 Comments
2024/02/22
21:32 UTC

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Son de Teuf Tribe oldschool

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0 Comments
2024/02/14
16:32 UTC

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what if Martin Whitly's first kill was his father?

The more I think about when Malcolm stabbed Martin in self-defense at the end of season 2, the more I think that the whole line of "We Are The Same" meant that Martin called the police on his father, only they didn't do anything. so Martin's first victim was his own father... what if Martin stabbed his own father because his father was trying to attack him and he thought that was the only way and that was his first taste of power? they did mention a few times in the show that Martin's father was severely abusive towards Martin and not a very good father, which is why Martin is obsessed with being a good father to Malcolm. Martin's afraid to be a terrible father because that means he would be like his own father. what if Martin is afraid of becoming his father just like Malcolm is afraid of becoming his father? that would mean they are the same. what if that's why Martin couldn't kill Malcolm when he took him up to the cabin because he realized he would be worse than his father and that's the only reason Malcolm was still alive?

8 Comments
2024/02/06
00:19 UTC

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Came to this subreddit for the first time and this what see first.

I find it Hilarious That after finishing this show And coming here to find people's thoughts on the ending, That An ad for kitchen knives is what I see first

2 Comments
2024/01/23
23:23 UTC

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Just finished the show and I don't understand Malcolm at the end

OK so I know it has been a while since the show is over and I will admit, I may be not really objective in my thoughts, sorry. (Also, I'm not fluent so sorry for the grammar.)

I don't understand Malcolm's behaviour in the two/three last episodes towards Martin. I mean, he risked his life to go save him from Vivian, that's very brave, etc, yes sure, but after that, what was the point of pushing him to torture the Woodsman (even if Martin said he didn't want to) and then "betray him" by throwing him at the cops. Of course Martin doesn't deserve to be out and free, I get it but him dead, season 3 (if it existed) would have been... different.

But still, I don't get while Malcolm used his father so much. Actually, maybe because Martin was right about him, they are the same, but not in the violent way (however it's the second time he's stabbed him sooo).

9 Comments
2024/01/07
07:13 UTC

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Prodigal Son Tattoo Idea

Hey, I posted a bit back about how I wanted to get a Prodigal Son themed tattoo in memory of my grandmother. I wanted to thank everyone for the ideas, I combined a few and this is what I've settled on. Thank you everyone who commented on my first post, I appreciate you all 💕

4 Comments
2024/01/02
01:34 UTC

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Anyone else like to imagine crossover fandom things?

I know this is popular in fanfic, but idk if we're all fanfic readers here.

So basically it's imagining what might happen if, say, Malcolm met Connor from Detroit: Become Human, or if Martin met Dr. Chilton from Hannibal (tv series, specifically, not movie-verse).

That latter has been on my mind quite a bit lately, honestly.

1 Comment
2023/12/27
08:14 UTC

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Tattoo Ideas

Prodigal Son was my favorite show to watxh with my grandma and she just passed away. I want to get a tattoo in her memory and I want it to be related to the show. Any ideas?

ETA: Hey, I couldn't add the picture to this post but I made another post with my final concept if you want to see. Thank you everyone for the ideas 💕https://www.reddit.com/r/ProdigalSon/s/IzQ8FJ3C1y

12 Comments
2023/12/26
04:56 UTC

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Okay. But hear me out... Edrisa + Martin.

I don't know! I feel like they'd get a kick out of each other. I feel like he'd find her accidentally dark personality amusing and her ever-absorbent and twisted mind appealing and exciting. And Edrisa... well, it just makes sense to me.

16 Comments
2023/12/02
01:28 UTC

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Emotional Support Mass Murderer...

Walmart shopping intensely spiked my anxiety and hatred of crowds. Came home and immediately made this (more as an excuse to watch bits of the show again, tbf)

0 Comments
2023/11/21
03:14 UTC

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Under Pressure (you're going to be seeing a lot of me)

What was I supposed to think of?! Yes, of course, Good Omens and my sweet loves do not own Queen, but what are the friggin CHANCES it'd be the very song used in the friggin' trailer for the first series of GO.

Okay. Martin's nightmare? Him calling Malcolm during the landmine? The group therapy, having Hector play Malcolm, then getting all serial killer mad when Hector doesn't say "I love you"? Cuz he cares SO FUCKING MUCH ABOUT MALCOLM!??!? then being so DAMN cute when he does?

I'm all giggly and happy and... squirmy. Easily my favorite episode so far and I'm only 10 minutes in.

2 Comments
2023/11/20
17:46 UTC

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Okay. S1 E10, Martin and Gil.

1st watch, and once again, I feel sorry for our Martin. I've just watch our Martin and Gil have their scene together. THOUGHTS:

  1. Martin seems scared of Gil, mad uncomfortable. Seems out of control, lost his composure, can't stand still. That, or it's his approaching heart attack.

  2. I've decided that Martin is, indeed, a good father, or at the very least he desperately wants to be one, has real love for his children.

  3. His concern for Malcolm is... okay it's fucking touching and I'm into it.

  4. I'm fucking diggity darn dammit almost SURE he's manipulating me! Near SURE of it! FAKE FUCKING HEART ATTACK!

I guess I'll see how it goes. I love Martin, man. I want to scale him like fucking Everest.

24 Comments
2023/11/20
16:21 UTC

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Post series 😭 finale fan fic recommendations

Is there any fan fics 1 can recommend of fics that take place after the events of series finale?

2 Comments
2023/11/15
02:56 UTC

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Why do people hate Edrisa?

I've seen a lot of hate toward her, saying she's creepy, weird, and uncomfortable. I've also seen that people say she has a crush on Malcom? I've never seen her in that way. I've always found her to be an enjoyable character. Is she awkward? She can be, but what character isn't? I've had moments where I wanted to yell at every character.

18 Comments
2023/11/11
16:21 UTC

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6 Comments
2023/11/11
00:07 UTC

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How is the one I feel sorry for frickin' MARTIN?!

That is so manipulative! Dammit dammit dammit Michael.

I've just finished episode 4 and what the hell. I just want him to be happy and have his family back, what the HELL?!

I know that's sorta the point of him. He's supposed to be charming and intriguing and predatory and exciting, but our Michael is doing it far too well and it ain't right and it ain't fair. And the that scene when the mom went in to see him? He even let the mask slip and I'm still like POOR MARTIN.

Like... how do I say this... inappropriate thoughts?

The show is okay. Definitely, I came for Michael and he is absolutely probably the only reason I'm staying. Oof.

19 Comments
2023/11/07
16:27 UTC

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"The Surgeon" isn't ever really explained

Randomly thought of this the other day during a bubble bath - naturally, as one does - and it's been a ponder ever since.

Its possible I'm misremembering. But for a show that profiles everyone, to a nearly Sherlockian telepathic degree, we never learn why Martin Whitly did what he did. It's refreshing, similar to Hannibal (in the TV show). Twice they showed us Martin committing crimes (once in a dream, admittedly) and he was a bit... Well, fumbly. Not the killer of "surgical precision" one might expect.

I know, I'm rambling in the few minutes I have before retail hell takes over my life for the next eight hours... But. It's a pleasant thought.

8 Comments
2023/11/04
21:00 UTC

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I drew malcom with crayons

2 Comments
2023/11/04
19:07 UTC

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Just started. Disturbingly thrilling that Michael manages to be sexy. The heck?

I mean, it's like the man can't help it. He's lovely.

But dammit, every second glance is so predatory, like he's moments away from losing it. Fuuuuuuuck, this is gonna be a fun watch.

12 Comments
2023/10/29
15:03 UTC

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I just finished the show and omg

I’m so sad there’s no third season cause I have to know what happens next, it can’t just end like that!

9 Comments
2023/10/28
02:10 UTC

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Do you think Martin really changed by the end? Or was it all an act?

I just finished S2 and while I won't spoil that ending in the preview body text (hello future viewers!) I will say: I'm so torn by it all.

I know it was meant to be a cliffhanger. I know it wasn't meant to be the end but the whole set up wad very... Idk. Contrived?

Martin just had to become The Surgeon just One Last Time Because Reasons. Malcolm manipulated him into it, noticed his hand wasn't trembling, and... What did that prove? That his dad was ultimately a monster and so was he? Therefore Martin needed to be locked away for good?

Or perhaps that was the only ending he saw that would benefit them both? He wanted his dad alive, but forever captured and tucked away.

And back to Martin: did he really change by the end? Or was it another ploy? Sheen played this role sublimely. There were times when I never could tell if he was being genuine with his family, or trying to play them.

But I think, in that moment, he was so overjoyed with being around Malcolm that his killing urges were set aside. I might even argue his desire to be a good father took the place of the urge (addiction?) to go stabby stabby.

On the one hand, Malcom is right, psychology doesn't work like that.

On the other hand, if we don't believe that people can change, ever, why bother with therapy?

On the other other hand... This is tv land. The writers are ultimately in control and can decide when or if The Surgeon wants to kill again.

So... Idk. What do y'all think?

15 Comments
2023/10/23
08:08 UTC

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Spoilers: Quite conflicted by the ending

So, I mean obviously certain someone ( look I'm sure most people watched this 2 years ago but just in case) would no doubt have been fine in season 3 had 3 happened but I'm not sure how I'm meant to feel about said someone? We spend 2 seasons basically prompted to at least sympathise if not empathise and then ...what? It was all an act? Or was he just angry? I don't actually know enough about their lack of connection to their feelings but think still get angry...hes meant to be tactical..he would have known he just needed to decapitate him not ..further. why would he go that far after playing a 20 Yr game to win his affection which he wouldn't have lost and was close to improving the most significantly in years...I don't know.i know it was a cliff hanger but it doesnt seem to logical..anyone have tjoughts? Very new to this sub..as in yesterday so no doubt im missing a lot.

11 Comments
2023/10/22
19:55 UTC

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My humor is broken but I regret nothing (tagged nsfw for the audio)

The idea popped into my head earlier at work and I just had to.

4 Comments
2023/10/17
08:55 UTC

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