It has been about 2 months since the collapse of the official UN recognized Syrian government. Everyone is saying that the loss of Syria is a "huge blow" to Iran. But to me, it seems like this still has its own positives and negatives for Iran.

First of all, Syria is now run by a Muslim Brotherhood proxy "government". This government is made up of many different Islamic groups who all want power in Syria. Some are more Salafist than other groups. There are also many other ethnic groups like Druze, Alawites, Christians, etc. The Kurds have their own territory, and are refusing to integrate into the new Salafist "government". Now this headache will be the responsibility of the West, primarily of Turkey, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia. They will need to waste a lot of resources and headache to keep this mess in control.

The Salafist victory in Syria is actually very scary for non-Muslim Brotherhood monarchies, like Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and even Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood will see this as motivation to keep going and spread the Muslim Brotherhood revolution to other Sunni Arab states. This is especially scary for Jordan, which is very poor and has a weak government.

Syria now is also destroyed. The same economic problems are still there, and it will cost the West billions just to make Syria look close to a normal country. If the West don't help Syria, then Syria will fracture, and it will give Iran an opportunity to support Shia groups in Syria, like Alawites.

Iran now has an opportunity to save its money from Syria, and focus on other resistance movements. This will give less work to Iran, and make it easier to have a regional strategy. Iran will no longer need to invest billions into Syria, and will be able to use the money for itself.

The loss of Syria is pushing Iran to be closer to Russia, and thus improve BRICS/SCO cooperation. This integrates Iran more internationally.

For Israel, how exactly does this help them? They now have a Salafist government next door to them. A lot of the Salafists will want to help liberate Palestine. Even if Jolani wants to be friendly with Israel and the West, there are still many Salafists who do not want that, who will violently pressure Jolani to not be so friendly with Israel.

Syria being a Muslim Brotherhood proxy, now puts Turkey mostly in control. Iran in Syria is now replaced by Turkey. Turkey is a neo-Ottoman state, and they are hungry for more power. It will eventually put Turkey in confrontaction with Israel. Turkey sees itself as the Ottoman Empire, which once controlled the whole Muslim world (in its own eyes), so why should it let a small bug called Israel have any influence in the region?

As for Hezbollah, they still have a connection to Iran via Turkey. Turkey was exposed to sending Iranian money directly to Hezbollah anyway. Iranian weapons are probably being sent to Hezbollah via Turkey now. So the West's whole plan of blocking the "Shia crescent" did not block Hezbollah from getting support from Iran. Israel is not in any better of a position now, but the West and Israel wasted billions on a regime change in Syria and will now have to clean up the mess in Syria.

In conclusion, the whole Syria situation doesn't looks so rosey for the West and their Gulf/Turkish partners. Iran is probably in a better position now, than if it was still responsible for cleaning up Syria.

Hi, an Azerbaijani here. I have a question. I have noticed that Persian ethnonationalists (monarchists, etc.) who mainly underline Iran's pre-Islamic history reference the Achaemenid and Sasanid empires while ignoring the Parthian empire. But as I know, Parthians were also a powerful and important Iranian state. What is the reason for this? Or am I wrong; do they not ignore it? Can someone explain

In the 80s, Israel was helping supply Iran against Iraq. Today, Israel was able to kill Haniyeh in Tehran. Sayed Nasrallah was meeting with 2 Iranian generals then he gets wiped out. Now Israel always knew his location but they never took him out. Why? Because they thought it would start a wider regional war. Something gave them the green light to finally take him out. And how did Iran respond? Very underwhelmingly. I support what Iran stands for in theory but I’m getting very very skeptical about all of this. Thoughts?

It’s funny to see the fights between so-called liberals and monarchists.

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The World Bank was the source I used for the GDP data, and the data for each year was published after the year was far over. As such, the year in which the presidents got elected does count as part of their reign, but the year they were ousted does not count for GDP comparison. And I say this, because the GDP graph is not smoothly flowing, but that the World Bank publishes GDP data for how it is at the end of the year. (For example, Rouhani's election year of 2013 does get referenced to the GDP, but 2021 doesn't, because he wasn't president by the end of it.)

Sources:

1. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?end=2023&locations=IR&start=1990&view=chart (The World Bank)
2. Alternative bar graph by TE: https://tradingeconomics.com/iran/gdp-us-dollar-wb-data.html
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_presidents_of_Iran&oldid=1270260673 (Presidential timeline, per Wikipedia)
4. https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/IRN (International Monetary Fund)

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Criticisms of the research or the arguments are also welcome. There are however, some responses already written for criticisms that I'm expecting first hand:

• "Is it the Nominal GDP or Real GDP? The inflation rates might not apply, because higher inflation would also make the GDP appear higher." Response: This graph by the World Bank is by the US Dollar, not the Iranian Rial. The price changes of any production also do apply by global comparisons.
• "What about US sanctions and Western influence? More hawkish presidents were in office in the US during our declines, so they should be compared not ourselves." Response: There is no real numerical way to measure the amount of sanctions or their effects. The US enforces sanctions through various ways including public laws and Treasury Department's foreign asset seizures. If we were to count these by visiting their websites and checking how many sentences they've written, that would ignore the effectiveness of each sanction by their enforcement and significance. Having said that, from 2013 to 2017, Obama was the US president and the sanctions were arguably less than before 2013, but the Iranian GDP still fell, and before 2013 it was rising.
• "Does it really matter if they're Reformist or Hardliner? The parliament and the Faqih are always hardliner, and the whole Iranian election is a sham." Response: The topic of Iranian elections, their legitimacy, and their true differences between candidates, is a whole separately big issue, and you might even be right about it. But, what I can certainly say is that internal and foreign policy does change with each president. Their cabinets are selected from their own sides and they always do change with each president. This infographic itself shows some noticeable changes when presidents change. The Judiciary, also, is a different entity that changes hands.

I'm a non-Iranian and I've been learning Farsi for the past few months. I've had a few interactions online with Iranians and even though I avoid politics, it still finds a way to come in the conversation and many times they hate their regime. I also wonder, if Iran is an Islamic country, why do the Iranians abroad not follow their religion? Last question, some female Iranians outside of Iran still cover themselves, do they support the government, or do they dislike the government but are still religious? It's a bit complicated. Would really love if you guys can help break it down. Obviously I will never talk about politics in real life with Iranians but I want to know a bit about the Iranian political state for a better understanding.

If Palestine was in any other region, it would have already been free. There are millions in the middle east who are just ridiculously dumb.

I know that Iranians are very proud about their history both Islamic and pre Islamic but what do you think about “Imperial Iran”?

Iranian MP, Mahmoud Kouchekzadeh: 'On behalf of the Iranian parliament, I congratulate the American people with the inauguration of the current clown and the departure of the former clown'

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/508764/Two-Iranian-Supreme-Court-judges-are-gunned-down

Don't you like how this land of the free allows all freedom of speech as long as it is what they want?

Reminds me of Henry Fords famous quote,

Any customer can have a car painted any color that he wants so long as it is black.

Freedom of speech, as long as it's approved.

Freedom of assembly, as long as it's not illegal groups.

Freedom of association, if the group isn't banned.

Freedom of religion, as long as it doesn't change anything.

Freedom of press, American press approved by the government and corporations

Freedom of express, if Israel and Cia are okay with it

The western idealogy and philosophy is basically marketing ads. Taking it seriously is like taking the ad prints from McDonalds or Starbucks seriously.

Guys stop worrying and put your trust In Imam Khamenei خدا حفظش کن and Imam Al Mehdi AJFJ 💚

More Iranians would be willing to support a nationalist cause of freeing Iranian lands rather than an Islamic cause of freeing Muslim lands. However, some in Iran especially the religious faction feel threatened by nationalism would rather suppress it, but some in the Artesh, IRGC, Rafaeipour and Ahmadinejad support nationalism. Even a peaceful Persian country like Tajikistan can see the value of Persian nationalism and the threat of pan Turks and Wahhabi terrorist on their borders

After years, it was an honor to shitpost with you. Once again, the Great Satan shows his ominous agenda and doesn't even want to tolerate such a small community. But if a grain of wheat dies, it bears much fruit.

I’m very glad to tell you that our new infant has been born. You can join the community, and we need moderators, so contact me if you're interested:

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last week, a video was surfaced on social media, of HTS thugs discussing with the man who had been wandering around the Shrine of Sayyidah Zeinab in Damascus. He'd traveled to Syria to visit the shrine but left behind after the fall of Damascus. Later news was circulated that he had been killed by the HTS thugs, which obviously was fake news.

Ali-Akbar Abu-Taleb Isfahani and his young son arrived in Moscow via Hmeimim airbase. They will return to Iran soon. Iran's ambassador to Moscow says they started rescue efforts in silence with IRGC Quds Force, Iran's foreign ministry and Russians were involved in the effort.

Source: https://x.com/fresh_sadegh/status/1878124489893929237?t=O6WzD7pcUBxJiwCg-5GZQw&s=19