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2022/11/15
01:07 UTC

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What is going on in the Middle East? Are they going to have another deal with Iran to be annuled by the next president?

As I know there are negotiations between Iran and 5+1. They have been such negotiations before, for many years and even when US and Iran negotiated directly , everything was annuled with a signature.

Now, it seems that there more tensions between them. What's going to happen?Reviving JCPOA and waiting for the next US president? What's the goal of all these long negotiations when everyone knows any agreement won't last long?

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2021/12/11
15:02 UTC

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Can misanthropy be overcome?

20 years ago, it seemed to me that the world is arranged reasonably enough. Now, thanks to the Internet, I know a lot more about the world, and this drives me into misanthropy, and this misanthropy lowers the quality of my life. A person should love others and the world, but how to love it if you see stupidity in everything? I see stupidity everywhere - in Russia where I live, in Ukraine, and in the West (although it takes different forms).

Philosophically speaking, it’s a little strange why this stupidity should depress me so much. I feel overwhelmed by the news when I find out that people are acting unreasonably, such as voting incorrectly, because I fear that such stupidity will lead to problems in the future. But if, for example, a major nuclear war had occurred in the last century, it would not have increased my misanthropy, although in both cases the situation is the same - people cause suffering to themselves and to each other. Or, for example, if some crazy genius creates a virus that will cause a real terrible pandemic.

I have a hope that the world can be made smarter by creating political institutions in which smart people often come to power, and the “ideological pyramids” in society do not flare up. This would solve my problem.

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2021/12/09
12:24 UTC

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Everyone is so worried about Iran having nukes - but is there even any location within Israel they could fire their nuke at, where less than 1 percent of the casualties would be muslim themselves?

35 Comments
2021/12/06
08:01 UTC

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Are There Limits on the Right to Free Speech? If so, what are they? – An online seminar and discussion on Tuesday 7 Dec 2021, free and open to all

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2021/12/05
23:20 UTC

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Read This For: A Brief Understanding of the State of Leftism & the West Today & How we Got Here...

(1) The West itself is heavily Left-biased, modernist, and corrupt to a fair degree. This, you encounter from birth;

(2) There are two types of 'normal people': the first is a liberal (not as common), the second is a Right-winger type (more common), from a personality and moral standpoint (largely innate/Darwinian in nature);

(3) The normal Right-winger is slowly turned into a crazy leftist, going directly against his own nature, this is pure brainwashing; other Right-wingers arse not changed but merely suppressed, and turned into liberal-like Right-wingers ('Third Way' types), largely out of fear. The normal liberal minds are already biased in this direction, so it's easier to make them even more radical/leftist over time, without going against their original nature to any large degree (though it does stretch beyond their current function and position in the world);

(4) In theory, the reason you have a liberal in the first place is to create things (creative mind), and maybe be more compassionate than the average person, such that they may speak on behalf of others, and keep things balanced (such as the working-class), which is more so required when things become extremely corrupt and failing, but that is not now;

(5) Due to decades of radicalisation on the Left (shift of the Overton Window), liberals believe that we live in a much more extreme, broken world than we really do, which gives them the sense that they must 'act', in this manner -- but they should not. Along with this, there has been extreme brainwashing and lying, and positive feed-back loops going on with the Left ever since they first began to really take control of the Law, educational system, technology, and otherwise sectors of American/Western life, such as the mass media, Hollywood, and otherwise, starting around 1966, but really becoming clear by the 1970s with radical feminism (Simone circa 1949 onwards), French post-modernism (around 1972 onwards), the New Left, New Atheism, the AIDs issues/gay rights movements, the anti-Christian/marriage/children movements, the pro-abortion movement, the pro-free sex movement, the hippie/anti-War movement, pro-Mao movements, and the new socialist movements, not to mention the radical black Muslim movements (typically marked as terrorist organisations by the FBI circa 1960-1970). These massively aided in the general downfall of the family unit, traditionalism, American values, and Christanity. Largely all tied into one mega-collective force that swept across the West, which all has its origins in Marxism, Hegel, Leninism, and general anti-theism and scientism, starting around the 1840s, and becoming more and more clear by the 1900s in Russia, France, America, the Netherlands, Germany, and England. Throw in some strange anti-Westernism/Americanism and white self-hatred/'white guilt', and you have a problem on your hands in the Western and American contexts (not to mention the insane rise of Nazism as a result of all of this, and WWI). (Throw in the creation of mass media and the birth control pill across the 20th-century, and you can see how all of this snowballed out of control, and took control of so many lives.) It's also worth noting that by the 1920s or so, we saw a new wave of anti-black racism in America (in Law) and massive growth of the U.S. Government by terrible Presidents, both of which have been some of the biggest mistakes in U.S. history, and helped put America in the position its in today;

(6) The major difference in moral frameworks and personality traits means that they [leftists and Right-wingers] have a very different order-ranking of what matters and how people ought to act. Couple this with the general Left-wing long-termism, and you have yourself a very dangerous mindset and system, where you can judge the world to be dying due to some human cause, and then justify any and all action taken as to fix this problem. That sums up the low-resolution image, hyper-compassionate, collectivist, moralistic Left and their world view and large-scale social plans and goals at any given moment, regarding any given topic or issue. This makes them empowered in their radicalism, and feel righteous. This leads to a feed-back loop when they cannot fix the so-called problem at hand, which only makes them push even harder, and the cycle repeats until they are stopped, the problem is fixed, or they burn everything to the ground;

(7) The 'hate' part that we see today becomes a moral and emotional necessity quite rapidly. It also becomes important to label everybody and everything else as 'hate [speech]' in order for them to maintain control. They are not viewing you as an individual, but a mouth-piece for your group, and an evil cog in your machine, which must be removed/fixed, and they deem you to be part of the problem -- and a major object in their way. This crushes their emotional regulation they have gained from their little cult, so they get very upset with you, and if you challenge them, they have some defensive mechanisms for that, to ensure that they remain emotionally intact and don't have to deal with the possibility of their entire narrative falling apart. This naturally means that they want to get you out of their way, and silence you, in a childish manner. The second part is that this is then masked as a moral good, and for the 'greater good' according to this long-term plan of saving some given group they speak on behalf of (with or without the group's permission), or the planet as such. They hate you because you are a thorn in their ideology, because you are upsetting their emotional regulation and their current image of the world, and how it should be. The third part could be a deeply childish one, created out of a simple lack of proper childhood and social development of the nervous system and otherwise chemical makeup, which means, by the time they enter the world at around age 18 (Gen-Z, uni, for example, around 2012), they are hyper-sensitive, childish, fearful, ignorant, and psychologically and physically fragile. This led to the creation of the 'safe space', 'trigger warning', 'microaggression', 'bias response team', and otherwise insanity around 2012-2014 as Jon Haidt noted back then. This is Gen-Z only (those born around 1995 onwards). It does not apply to any other generation in this way (or didn't, at the time);

(8) Over the last 10 years, it has all snowballed out of control and also been enforced by Law and education and popular culture, which is what forced it outside of academia and to all of our lives and minds by 2015-2016 due to the likes of Trump and Jordan Peterson and the whole trans bathroom issue, but such had already been major issues or talking points since at least 2010 with the Equality Act 2010 of the British Government, and you can see such things from Canada, as well, and the 'Bill C-16' circa 2016-2017, then Bret Weinstein's mess at Evergreen in 2017, not to mention how crazy the leftists acted towards the likes of Ben Shapiro speaking to students and non-students alike circa 2014-2017. Throw in Fourth Wave Feminism (2012 or so), modern social media with an entire young generation stuck on it (2012 or so), and the final, terrible choices made by Obama (2011 or so), and you have yourself a real problem on your hands circa 2010s/2020s; and

(9) The final piece to the puzzle would be an individualistic one. These so-called normal people were always corrupt and broken, and lost souls, and this madness merely gave them a way to feel moral and better about themselves, and in control, and safe, and in a community, and a way to free those darker emotions, motives, and desires, as they never actually developed their personality, dealt with their Jungian Shadow, or had a proper moral framework. They were also out of touch with reality due to being stuck on Twitter all day instead of in Church, which meant they lost real human contact and localism and how to act to other fellow humans in the real, local community. This created for them a collectivist/global community, not based on values or locality, or anything good and real and grounded. This only left the more corrupt elements, and broke the psyche somewhat due to its innately radical and unnatural nature (for example, we know that hate travels faster and stronger than love on Twitter, and maybe everywhere else for that matter). (Science has proven that we experience negative emotions 2.5 times more powerfully than positive ones, for example, which makes sense for survival in the wild, but does not work well within a modern, finely-tuned society.) Most normal humans are busy living in their local neighbours, with shared histories and values, and a real community centred around religion and common beliefs and activities, which not only regulates their emotions, but keeps them stable, and acting properly in the real world, in accordance with that community and its individual members, at the individual, emotional/chemical/personality level. Leftists don't get this, as they don't have local communities, shared values, religion, or otherwise binding, stable systems. As a result, this leads to some strange globalist, amoral cultism, such as Communism/Marxism.

P.S. For more on this, read the likes of Jon Haidt and Jordan Peterson, along with a book called 'Bowling Alone', which deals with the fact Americans used to have clubs, but no longer do. Don't forget, the President of the United States comes from this long, humble tradition of local clubs of bowling and otherwise sports and matters. Like the president of the club. Not at all like a King or supreme leader, as has slowly been the case, and as leftists tend to desire (as proven by the last 150 years of Communism and leftism). It's also worth looking at Jordan Peterson's lectures in order to hold a deeper understanding of all of these points and matters, and to read the likes of Nietzsche and Carl Jung and C.S. Lewis for even further history and insight. Watch the Bret Weinstein Evergreen documentary, as well, and the Social Dilemma documentary by Harris regarding the mass-corruption and insanity of social media, more so regarding children. Thanks.

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2021/12/03
10:18 UTC

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SCOTUS overturning Roe. This will kill the Republican Party.

For those that don't keep up with the SCOTUS or who aren't law talking people, the SCOTUS is much more than likely going to overturn Roe v. Wade soon. This victory is something team red has been chasing for half a century and it might well kill their party.

The 2022 elections look grim for the dems. Mainly due to a general apathy that dems have when their guy is in the White House. What they lack, what they really always lack, is a wedge issue. Donald Trump served as a overwhelming electoral motivator for dems in 2020, but that hurdle has been cleared. However, I personally can't think of an issue that would motivate dems more than overturning Roe with a dem in the White House. I think this would be comparable, to those on the right, to a total/near total gun ban. This is a gigantic issue for dems.

So what? I hear you say. The dems keep both chambers in 2022. No big deal. However, I don't think the dems will just keep both chambers, I think they might get a super majority.

If the dems get a super majority, then a lot of things follow. They would impeach any justice of the SCOTUS that voted to overturn Roe, they'll dismantle much of the jerry meandering measures Republicans have spent a decades erecting, and much more. Mark my words here, if Roe is overturned, then republicans will be winning a battle only to lose the war.

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2021/12/03
09:33 UTC

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总加速师 加速 皇 加速主义

加速主义实则是美国的阴谋,中国目前是相对比较稳定的。在加速主义中,提出的破而后立,“破”指让中国衰落,中国衰落美国就是最大受益者;“立”则不难想象美国打算对付中国的狼子野心。这就体现出,美国看不得别的国家比他们强大。美国的政治极化和社会极化正在爆发,目前不管是抗疫和化解经济危机中,美国的政治显然已经高于一切了。之所以会出现目前这种危机的局面,一个重要的原因就是政治极化。抗疫政治化,经济贸易政治化,连口罩都政治化。

特朗普口号是「让美国重新伟大」,拜登口号则是要「重整美国的领导力」。一个共同点就是都在认可了美国霸权战略的失败和美国实力的下滑。而目前的国际局势对美国并不利。加之特朗普不断采取堪称“加速主义”教科书般的手段,不断推动美国走向世界的对立面,美国的衰落就在不久之后。

美国拥有健全的医疗保健体系。然而,在疫情面前,美国人的理念竟然是牺牲大众健康来保经济,牺牲祖父母辈来保美国的未来。不仅是美国联邦政府,各州政府也同样在极力隐瞒疫情,美国的透明度和知情权哪里去了?美国民众的健康生命权又哪里去了?对外「撒谎、欺骗」还说得过去,对自己国家的公众也是如此。美国的自由人权等价值观走入了歧途。自由主义、无政府主义正在泛滥。随着自由主义和无政府主义泛滥,美国的社会思维会更加混乱。美国的价值观体系正在受到严重破坏。一个国家如果出现道德价值观混乱,离崩溃自然也就不远了的,也就是坐上了“加速主义”的火车。

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2021/12/01
05:55 UTC

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Should JUSSIE SMOLLETT be put in jail?

So as we all know the disgraced black liberal actor perpetuated a fake hate crime hoax against himself. He hired two black coworkers from his time on empire to make believe beat him up and put a rope around his neck to create a hate crime. It's known fact now that Jussie paid these two actors and they are testifying against him this week.

Should Jussie go to jail for his dirty liberal tactics? He should be excited about dropping the soap :)

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2021/11/30
02:56 UTC

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Presidential Candidates 2024

So it's obvious that Biden won't make it until 2024 whether by Mother Nature or on his "own" accord.

Who will the democrats nominate? We need someone who can compete against a Desantis or Trump.

Obviously the VP won't stand a chance.

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2021/11/27
19:34 UTC

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Kyle Rittenhouse is Legally in the right but Morally in the Wrong

The Kyle Rittenhouse case is hot right now and many have been making their opinion known. I think this is a two sided issue with lots of grey area, given that it is legal what Kyle did. However, my argument since it went down has been that Kyle should have never been there and he is morally in the wrong. It is easy to see that Kyle was not just there to help his community. No one brings a rifle to administer first aid. Kyle went to intimidate. This can be seen in his comments a week earlier on how he had wished he had his rifle to kill rioters, as well as his fraternizing with the Proud Boys while throwing up the OK dog whistle. While what he did was legal, it is impossible to say he was morally right.

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2021/11/25
22:37 UTC

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I hope you guys don’t like filming

So US case law has just established that simply filming a crime makes you guilty of triple homicide AND racist. What’s more, apparently everyone’s completely fine with that; obviously libt4rds want us to live like North Koreans and conservatards are too busy jacking themselves off over the Rittenhouse verdict to care about the more interesting Arbery case. So, hopefully you guys don’t like filming things cuz now that’s equivalent to murder in this clown world we find ourselves in.

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2021/11/24
19:32 UTC

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Inflation is not a real issue and wont be in 2022

Historical Crude Oil Prices (Table) (inflationdata.com)Just look. Listening to Republicans you'd think people can't afford to drive and it is all Biden's fault no matter what he does. THis is completely false. The current prices are low-normal and gas mileage s double what it used to be, so another fake issue by the Republicans trying to make Biden look worse than trump.

59 Comments
2021/11/24
13:59 UTC

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The nature of the U.S. in the Asia-Pacific region

Recently in the Asia-Pacific region, the competition of global world powers, including those outside the region, has begun. First of all, it is an active political position outside the area of the United States. To this purpose, the U.S. is actively installing its anti-missile systems on the territories of its allies. The document, published on the official website of the U.S. State Department, reveals Washington's strategy of action in the Asia-Pacific region, or, as Americans call it, the Indo-Pacific region. The point of this document is that the United States has no intention of withdrawing from this part of the world, and intends to establish itself here as a leader in the economic, social and, of course, military spheres. Washington follows the crazy idea of world domination under the cover of a "security guarantee". America continues to expand and modernize its missile defense system around the globe. At the same time, America accused Russia of violating the Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles Treaty, and under this pretext withdrew from the treaty, since it also does not include China, in whom the United States sees "the greatest danger". Washington's main objective in the Asia-Pacific region is to create new military alliances with countries of the region to oppose the intentions of China and Russia to establish themselves as leaders and centers of power in this part of the world. In order to hinder the development of Russia-China relations in the Asia-Pacific region, the U.S. continues to strengthen its alliance with Japan and South Korea and to prevent the return of Taiwan to China. Moreover, under the pretext of protecting its allies in the Asia-Pacific region from the main "source of the threat" - North Korea - America uses this country to escalate aggression in mainland Asia.

The Asia-Pacific region has been and remains a key region for United States national interests. In this regard, the United States is not abandoning its attempts to strengthen its position in the region. U.S. foreign policy has a character that threatens international security, and its allied countries are nothing more than a tool in the hands of U.S. policymakers. Awareness of this is necessary at the international public and political level, as it determines the future for the Asia-Pacific region as well as for the rest of the world as a whole.

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2021/11/24
06:17 UTC

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Considering the jury award against Unite the Right over Charlottesville, when is BLM going to be held responsible for the thousands of times more damage and many more deaths attributable to their protests?

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2021/11/24
03:47 UTC

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https://www.reddit.com/user/wjmusic1/draft/f505a378-4c1d-11ec-a189-ceb3d5b13d76

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2021/11/23
05:33 UTC

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Introducing: The Whaß Argument

Yo What's up everybody? This is an argument that I have been working on for a few weeks now, and I am ready to send it out and launch it to the world wide web! The argument is called "The Whaiß Argument", and it is what I like to call a Killa Argument. Now, I have been called a troll and a joke by some, but I can promise you one thing. Everything that I will say is authentic and is my genuine belief on whatever I may be talking about. So, it's time to hit the ground runnin' and begin!

There are many YouTubers who talk about Political Mapping and Political Analysis. Some examples would be the channels "Let's Talk Elections", "Red Eagle Politics" and "Unbaised Election Predicitons" just to name a few. Many political analysis YouTubers like to talk about political trends in the U.S, yet regardless of political lean, (If any at all) just about ALL of them can agree on one thing. The U.S has become a polarized nation. This is something that you will hear about very often. Yet at the same time, they all talk about something else: Political Trends in the U.S. (People saying, "This state is trending this way, and THIS state is trending THAT way. You pressumably get the idea.) They talk about this all the time. However, there is a BIG contradicting issue with the subject of these two topics when watching these YouTubers.

There are only Three Possible Options:

Option #1: TLC (Trend Lock Current) Which states that the U.S is a polarized nation, and that political trends are therefore impossible.

Option #2: TATADDNE (There Are Trends And Division Does Not Exist) Which states that the U.S is not a polarized nation, and that political trends are indeed happening as we speak.

The only other possible option is the Stagnation Option, which states that the U.S is not a polarized nation, yet political trends are not happening.

This is very simple. The U.S CAN NOT be a polarized nation if political trends are happening. And if the U.S is a polarized nation, then trends are made impossible by default. It's very simple, I assure you. So these are the basics of The Whaiß Argument. I hope that more political mappers and analysists see this, and except it as fact, and that The Whaiß Argument will be used in future political debates to come. I have recently posted a video on my YouTube channel discussing this. My first video doing so. If anyone want to see it, then you may ask for the link, and I will send it to you. But if someone thinks that they can refute it, then WATCH OUT. As far as I can see, this argument is simply UNBEATABLE.

Alex.....OUT!!! SEE YA!!!

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2021/11/21
06:54 UTC

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What does progressive liberalism do to an otherwise normal mind?

How does it turn people into such hateful, bloodthirsty monsters?

45 Comments
2021/11/21
02:11 UTC

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Is there actually something like a 'Licence to Kill'?

So i recently was in the cinema this evening with a Friend to watch 'No Time To Die', and i've been asking myself if there is really something like a 'Licence To Kill', just like in James Bond. I know that some Agents of some Secret Services actually CAN kill people (CIA), but is there a real Section for that? Just like the 00 - Section.

I know, that may be a stupid and weird question, but i thought it would be cool to ask.

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2021/11/19
21:11 UTC

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If the Build Back Better Plan Passes ...

So we saw today that the house passed the BBB. I'm a conservative so I'm obviously opposed to it passing the senate before coming law.

My reason is I believe this will add more fuel to the fire that is inflation. If you want to become a homeowner, this will make it more difficult. Yes you will technically make more money but the cost of goods sold including housing will all rise like we have seen in the last 2 years.

I believe the Democrats mean well but I think they're underestimating the unintended consequences.

Thoughts on BBB in relation to inflation ?

4 Comments
2021/11/19
21:08 UTC

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Justice Prevails!

Well as we all knew Kyle would be acquitted and rightfully so.

Thank you Kyle! Time to Sue Joe Biden into oblivion. Hunter better start painting more :)

103 Comments
2021/11/19
20:00 UTC

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MSNBC

Wow just wow! Talk about trying to influence or advocate for a certain outcome.

As Attorney Binger would say " Tsk Tsk MSNBC"

https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/11/18/judge-bruce-schroeder-kyle-rittenhouse.cnn

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2021/11/18
23:10 UTC

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Dear Joe

Dear Joe,

Please resign. America has spoken and you are officially the most unpopular president in USA history !

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2021/11/16
21:45 UTC

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Why are Libs Triggered?

As a formal Liberal I know why Libs are so triggered by the Kyle Rittenhouse Trial.

It's now a clear cut acquittal. No questions asked.

But why do Libs keep trying to keep the debunked racism component swirling around this case?

The reason is two fold. One the biased Liberal media such as CNN, MSNBC and Politicfact need to double down on their lie in order to keep some street cred with their freaks.

Second and most importantly the Libs are afraid that antifa support will be suppressed because Rittenhouse single handily killed 2 antifa members and took the bicep of 1.

They know this is a blow to antifa because normal every day Americans aren't afraid of the poor white male antifa members now.

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2021/11/16
14:58 UTC

3 Comments
2021/11/15
01:07 UTC

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My idea for New government

New government is basically reddit but not anonymous. Social security number is the login. Now laws are posted under different categories by law makers, (random people can make their own laws technically but very unlikely to get passed) and if more than half the countries population upvote it, it gets passed.

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2021/11/14
06:40 UTC

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Super interesting

It’s amazing how the totally not racist, black loving Republicans/conservatives purge Any black voice that challenges their ideas about race. I can not use the word “racist” or “privilege”. Just highlight inconsistencies and it’s like “Shut up. We don’t wanna hear from you. Now back to how we can try to use dead black man Malcolm X as our political Boy. Did you know he was a white conservative?!🥴🤪😵‍💫”

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2021/11/13
15:18 UTC

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Dear Donald:

Dear Donald Trump,

It's Luigio from the EU. From all of us here in the EU we want to apologize for doubting you and accusing you over colluding with Russia. Now that it is fact that Hillary Clinton paid for the Steele Dossier which turned out to be a falsified document, it is time that we all apologize.

From all of us here in the EU, We are Sorry Donald !

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2021/11/12
21:41 UTC

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WTF America?

Hey mates,

It's me Luigio from EU. I am appalled at what is happening in the states lately.

1st the Country is almost overrun by a few drunk trump supporters.

2nd you all elect a 78 year old who comes to our continent and fluctuates and flies back home after talking about global warming.

3rd you all are trying to put a child in person for defending himself from a pedophile and guy without a bicep.

4th you let republicans win VA because VA schools can't stick to math and science in school.

I love America but am worried about your current affairs.

Cheers,

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2021/11/12
21:30 UTC

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If we are all equal under the law and expected to be treated equally regardless of race, why is there not a Congressional White Caucus?

This is a serious question and not meant as an opinion either way. I really want opinions of both side so I can understand the hypocrisy that exists in our current environment.

30 Comments
2021/11/10
17:56 UTC

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