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Tools for Dictionary Generation

Hello, everyone. Does anybody know about a tool to generate dictionaries?

For example, created could be broken as create+-ed, but currently you would define the compound word without any reference to create or -ed. Does something that allows you to represent dictionaries that way exist (or that compiles a file to the standard dictionary format)? So you only need to define create, -ed and the the relationship between these three words?

Another thing that would help in the tool: F is represented with TP, L with HR, and N with PB, so flint is written as TPHREUPBT, why could we not alias letters so we could write FLINT?

If this would hurt more than help, let me know. I'm just trying to find something like this, but maybe I shouldn't in the first place.

7 Comments
2024/11/21
22:15 UTC

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How to type "demotivate"

I can type "motivate" (PHOET/SRAEUT) or "demote" (TKE/PHOET), but TKE/PHOET/SRAEUT comes out as "demote SRAEUT".

Am I missing something obvious?

1 Comment
2024/11/16
11:39 UTC

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Numbers?

Hello! I am brand new to learning steno and have an Ecosteno machine that I am running through Plover. I am doing the A to Z course and am just learning #s, it seems that when I press the number key + A (haven't learned any others yet) it does not come out as "5", but just #A. Could someone advise me on how to get the right output? Again, I am suuuuper new so there may be an obvious solution. Thanks!

2 Comments
2024/11/05
22:45 UTC

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Can I become proficient with just 9 fingers?

Hi everybody,

Long story short, due to various personal reasons, I would like to increase my typing speed to human speech, around 200 WPM. I believe learning steno typing with Plover using something like Lapwing theory is a good option.

However, I can only use 9 fingers, as my left hand's middle finger is paralyzed. Can I still reach my goal, or is it impossible to learn steno typing with 9 fingers in the first place? I would like to know before investing a lot of time into it, only to find out I should have picked something else.

If it's not possible, or if there is a better way to reach my 200 WPM goal, what would you recommend?

Long version:

I suffer from a condition which causes throat pain when I speak. I also have severe arthritis which damaged my fingers, causing the fingers to lose movement, resulting in the loss of movement in the left middle finger. My other fingers are still working although not 100%. Due to this, I can't learn sign language.

However I can still type, so I rely on text to speech for most of my work. But as you know, it's not fast enough. I became ecstatic when I learnt of the existence of steno typing/short hand typing and the like, as I was looking for ways to speed up my typing.

Once I pick an approach, I will not stop learning until I reach the goal, no matter how much effort, and stick with it for the rest of my life. So I would like to use a well documented, widely known approach, which was proven to work well. It would be hard to pick an approach that doesn't work well and have to unlearn it later.

3 Comments
2024/11/01
19:15 UTC

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Polish dictionary for exercises in Trillo's "West Slavic Stenography" theory

Hi! (polish version follows)

For now, there is no complete Plover dictionary for the Polish language (for the "West Slavic Stenography" theory by Priscilla Trillo). To enable myself and others to learn it, I have prepared a dictionary containing almost two thousand words, word-roots, prefixes, suffixes and infixes from all the exercises included in the textbook. Feel free to download the dictionary from here:

https://github.com/Jamers303/Steno_PL

Additionally, the website also includes an Errata for the textbook as well as all exercises with words and their chords written out - ready to be pasted into Typey Type (as a custom lesson). You can also find dictionaries there containing: letters, punctuation marks, numbers, as well as enabling text editing and formatting, or invoking Plover commands (all mapped to the Polish steno keyboard layout).

Good luck with your studies!

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Na razie nie ma gotowego słownika Plover dla języka polskiego (dla teorii „West Slavic Stenography” Priscilli Trillo). Żeby umożliwić sobie i innym naukę, przygotowałem słownik zawierający niemal dwa tysiące wyrazów, rdzeni, prefiksów, sufiksów i infiksów występujących we wszystkich ćwiczeniach z podręcznika. Zapraszam na pobieranie tutaj:

https://github.com/Jamers303/Steno_PL

Dodatkowo na stronie znajduje się również Errata do podręcznika jak również wszystkie ćwiczenia z wypisanymi słowami i ich akordami – gotowe do przeklejenia do Typey Type (jako custom lesson). Można tam również znaleźć słowniki zawierające: litery, znaki interpunkcyjne, liczby jak również umożliwiające edycję i formatowanie tekstu czy też wywoływanie komend Plover (wszytsko zamapowane na polski układ klawiatury steno).

Powodzenia w nauce!

0 Comments
2024/10/28
20:15 UTC

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Plover MacOS not outputting text to any apps?

Hi all,

I have a Uni v4 from TheStenoKeyboards, and it worked flawlessly with Plover until this morning when it stopped working. Opening "Paper Tape" shows that it reads the keyboard and recognises all chords correctly. However, when I try to type in any app, it doesn't work.

I tried reinstalling Plover, but no change. Here are my settings:

MacOS version: Sequoia 15.1.
MacOS settings - Privacy & Security - Accessibility - Plover - Enabled.
Output: enabled.
Machine: Gemini PR.
Connection port: /dev/cu.usbmodem1444203.
Baudrate: 9600.

ETA: I found that starting Plover from Terminal works. But not when opening Plover directly.

ETA2: Fixed. I deleted Plover from Accessibility using "-" and then manually added it using "+". Sorry, all!

1 Comment
2024/10/26
12:01 UTC

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Plover is recognizing my steno keyboard’s input wrong

I brought the Multisteno keyboard, and although it successfully connected to Plover using TX Bolt, the keys are not correct. On the Plover paper roll, when I press 's-', it shows as if I pressed 'k.' When I press '*', it shows as if I pressed 'p.' Also, there are some keys I press that Plover is not picking up. Has anyone had this problem?

3 Comments
2024/10/22
16:55 UTC

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Use Plover with a normal keyboard, doing normal typing for most of the time, but add combinations?

So, I've been practicing Steno daily with a proper steno keyboard and finding it very interesting.

However, for the foreseeable future I'll be using my normal keyboard to type normally. But all the steno practice got me thinking about using Plover to type faster in a non-steno way, on the normal keyboard.

So would the following be possible:

To setup Plover so I'm typing this normally, but instead of typing "suddenly", I just chord "SUD" and Plover fills-in "suddenly" for me.

Has no one thought of this before? Because it seems like an interesting half-way between steno and normal typing. I could memorize dozens, even hundreds of combinations. "combinations" could be "mbc", "hundreds" could be "hnu" and so on.

Is there a way to get this done?

4 Comments
2024/10/22
02:57 UTC

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Spacing problem

I am running Javelin on a Starboard to a Samsung S21. Over all it is working quite well. However, (of course) some spacing problems. It will randomly do things liket his. Not all the time, and seemingly without pattern. Though when I write the name of a nearby town it always does this, WallaWal la, WallaW alla, or some similar goof. Most of the time I can back up and it will do it right the second time, or maybe the third time. But never with WallaWal la. Any ideas? I did check the dictionary, Walla Walla is correct. The only chording is, are "WAL/KWRA/WAL/KWRA

9 Comments
2024/10/21
03:33 UTC

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Can I plug my uni v4 keyboard into my iPhone (usb-c from keyboard to iPhone charger port) and see my output?

I’m on vacation and brought my laptop and keyboard to practice and to join my class this morning, but I only now realized that the uni’s cord is usb-c to usb, and my laptop doesn’t have a usb port. I was able to plug my iPhone charger cord into the the keyboard usb-c and my iPhone, but I’m not seeing any app that would allow me to view the paper tape.

1 Comment
2024/10/08
15:23 UTC

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"Hey! Why is my Plover dictionary moving out of my DropBox folder?!?"

A few weeks ago I was watching a TV show on my iMac, with my Macbook Pro sitting close by. At one point, I saw something moving on my laptop's screen ... which turned out to be my Plover dictionary!

Unfortunately I was not thinking clearly, or I would have turned off my laptop, but instead, I watched my Plover dictionary disappear from the screen.

On the plus side, I had a backup, but it wasn't as large as that now gone dictionary was.

Interestingly, something similar happened with a previous laptop ... but that time, whoever it was was trying to drag my hard drive into the trash!

I pressed the track pad down, then shut down the laptop, and left it off for an hour or so.

There are some nasty people out there folks, so back up your dictionaries!

2 Comments
2024/10/06
02:29 UTC

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Sometimes I mentally chord what people are saying as I hear it

8 Comments
2024/10/05
21:48 UTC

8

Plover-like Android App?

I am brand new to the stenography scene, just got a board. Is there any app for Android that I can use to practice? If so, please link it! Thanks!

2 Comments
2024/09/26
01:29 UTC

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Is it practical to use a 40% keyboard? Would be 6-key rollover enough or a full NKRO would be a must?

20 Comments
2024/09/04
14:12 UTC

7

Why don't steno keyboards have homing keys?

I recently got a starboard steno keyboard. I'm feeling a bit lost without homing keys i.e. the tactile bumps on the home row of a standard keyboard.

How do you find your bearings without them?

13 Comments
2024/09/02
06:00 UTC

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Plover/steno in healthcare: Am I nuts, or is this the start of a learning journey?

A standard "should I learn stenotype?" post BUT with some extra information!

Plover fans, I'd love your opinion on whether steno is the way forward to make life easier for myself. I've tried to expand a bit on why I'm doing this below. Do you think I'm better off learning to use speech-to-text dictation, working more with a text expander, or does Plover + a decent steno keyboard + the time commitment make sense in your eyes?

Use case: I'm a speech-language pathologist who writes a lot of notes and lenthy reports and letters. A lot of what I write has to be readable by other people, so professional language is required. I can't abbreviate the heck out of my correspondence, or any notes that will go to colleagues or clients.

The good news:

  • 80-100WPM on Qwerty (varies depending on keyboard and fatigue)
  • I'm already using Espanso (a text expander) to help with repeated phrases ("oriented to place, person, and time," "Medical history:") in a lot of my notes. It's great, but I'm now finding that I want to create expansion triggers for so many things that surely I'm heading towards steno levels of abbreviation anyway.
  • I've played with the Qwerty Steno website and the idea of chording seems to be OK for me. I played piano for years as a kid, so I think I'm still used to that motor-mapping.
  • My work is all about language and communication, and I'm a good speller and writer: I feel like the extra speed (or reduced fatigue) would have a meaningful benefit as spelling and putting my thoughts in a tidy order are not the bits slowing me down.
  • I don't have a WPM goal - definitely not 200WPM+ like some people aim for. I'd be happy with 80WPM and less hand/wrist fatigue. Smoothly producing 150WPM would be a delight.
  • Faster writing is good for my workload: Consultations are charged with a standard amount of note-writing time built in (5-15 minutes depending on what I'm doing) , and reports are billed by working hours. Being able to type/produce text faster would give me some more breathing room in my day, and reduce the chance of having to stay late to finish notes, emails, etc. In other words: I'm pretty motivated to make some gains!
  • I usually work on my laptop which I can run Plover on. I'm not in a hospital setting where I either need an embedded dictionary on the keyboard (although this is tempting for when I do locum work), and I don't need to beg a network admin for permission.

The bad news:

  • I'm still finishing my training and my workload is huge. I'll try to set aside time to practice, but I can't do the three hours a day that some people do. Once I have some proficiency, I'll be able to start getting in a lot of time at work.
  • There is a lot of medical and specialised terminology. I expect I'll have to build a lot of custom briefs. Would I be smarter to identify these and come up with some steno-like expansion triggers, rather than trying to learn a whole system?

If I don't hear an overwhelming response that this is a really bad idea, I'll probably order a keyboard next week and will provide regular updates on my learning journey.

9 Comments
2024/08/17
12:48 UTC

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3d printed gateron steno keyboard

0 Comments
2024/08/11
00:13 UTC

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Download Problem

3 Comments
2024/07/19
10:38 UTC

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Will Plover work on two sideways number pads?

https://preview.redd.it/91yrrmfzufcd1.png?width=358&format=png&auto=webp&s=1f7048164eff18ffb87055dcf262b3720fd44492

These things are like 10$ and I found if you turn them sideways, they have the same dimension as split steno keyboards. Can I buy two of them and scribble letters over the numbers, or am I dumb. WIll the software work with them? I am actually tech illiterate and am also wondering if all keyboards can be programed or if its like built in to a letter, like can I make #1 into "a".

I am cheap as hell because I can't afford to spend money hyper fixated hobby that I barely understand. Please let me know so I don't waste 20 bucks and act stupid.

Thanks!

2 Comments
2024/07/14
07:46 UTC

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Simplified plover

I am interested in building my own steno keyboard, but I don't want to learn full plover. I find the short hands overwhelming. For my use case, typing in syllables is enough. Is there a version of plover that only types by syllables? Would it be difficult to program the combinations myself?

4 Comments
2024/07/12
20:54 UTC

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Connection Issue

I have reinstalled Plover. Trying to use with my Elan Mira A3 Steno Machine. Shows its connected but there is no output. USB input. Please help... I've been at this far to long trying to troubleshoot.

https://preview.redd.it/uxlsrzqoczbd1.png?width=1907&format=png&auto=webp&s=8aa2dd5bd63fe32d3f1fcacdbb11bbdfbad692e4

1 Comment
2024/07/12
00:11 UTC

1

Turkish Plover dictionary

I've always wanted to try shorthand, but after doing some research on the subject, I discovered that the only shorthand systems in Turkey are hand-written. Does anyone know if there is a Turkish dictionary for Plover?

0 Comments
2024/07/07
21:45 UTC

2

Can't get working on Fedora 40

I spent an entire day trying with pip and appimage with zero success. Any advice?

1 Comment
2024/07/04
09:53 UTC

3

Best way to practice

Hi everyone, I just got into the point where I can do simple multi stroke words reliably but I still have a lot of trouble with more complex words as well as speed, does anyone have a good way to practice this or a software that they use to help me out,

I feel like I'm so close to finally being able to use this in my day to day life and I'm hoping for anything that could help me practice more efficiently

Thank you for any help

7 Comments
2024/06/24
08:15 UTC

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anyone know how to enable light mode/dark mode in typey type?

I'm having trouble figuring it out. It's always in dark mode on my computer, regardless of which browser I use. Any help would be appreciated!

2 Comments
2024/06/23
20:54 UTC

2

Starting with plover and can't get it working

Hi there, I am starting to use plover using a qwerty keyboard. I have set the Plover software to Arpeggiate and enabled the output. My keyboard has a maximum number of keys pressed of 8 when I did the N key rollover test. The steno configuration isn’t working however, does anybody know why this might be the case?

https://preview.redd.it/q5ggxak1ea8d1.png?width=1354&format=png&auto=webp&s=53c11c13bd858dbc1e86366d85589485279b7601

3 Comments
2024/06/23
09:01 UTC

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Plugins Manager disappears for good if you install Layout Display

Okay, so I found this out recently. If you want a layout display for plover, use the SVG Layout Display, not the old one. Reason being, it literally deletes the plugins manager. Only way to get it back is uninstall plover and reinstall with new files (either change file path or delete old files)

So, fair warning, do not install the layout display, it will ruin installing plugins.
Don't mean to say that Layout Display is a bad plugin, it's great, I used it for a long time.
But you cannot install more plugins after, so be careful.

2 Comments
2024/06/19
07:58 UTC

5

Complete newbie

I have a MacBook and have been taking the A to Z using a Stentura 400srt. My strokes show up just fine on the paper tape and so haven’t had any issues with the course. My question is, where can I see the output translating the strokes into English words? I’ve been using the “suggestions” to just get a jist of what I’m stroking out but am wondering if I’m missing something.

4 Comments
2024/06/12
23:32 UTC

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cannot get wave to work with plover

hi! Nothing I am seeing online has worked. I've installed the wave driver, my device shows it is connected and that the driver is fully updated. I've also added the stenograph USB plugin to plover and have restarted my PC. Plover will show that the steno is connected, but as soon as I type anything it says it is disconnected and does not show any output. i have no idea what to do and appreciate any help

1 Comment
2024/06/04
16:52 UTC

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Phoenix endings showing up in text

I have an older version of Plover on my main computer. The computer's out for repairs (thanks, Dell idiots!), so I'm on another computer. I've installed a newer version of Plover and loaded my dictionaries, the same dictionaries, and now my endings are coming out like this:

Phil was jump ^ing and scream ^ing and he look ^ed weird.

etc.

I use an RTF Phoenix dictionary, like I always have. In the dictionary the endings are typically defined like this:

-G = ^ing
-D = ^ed

like they always have been.

So did Plover go through a change where it can no longer deal with this syntax? Or, as I suspect, am I overlooking something extremely obvious which when I catch it will make me feel very very stupid? :-)

What should I do to make it work?

10 Comments
2024/05/23
18:51 UTC

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