Hello! I was reading a passage recently from Gadamer which refers to a term/phrase used by Plato. The term isn't translated, and I can't figure out what it means exactly--I was hoping someone here might be able to help me. Here's the passage:

[This is] what I mean by good will: for me, it signifies what Plato called "ευμενεις ελενχοι." That is to say, one does not go about identifying the weaknesses of what another person says in order to prove that one is always right, but one seeks instead as far as possible to strengthen the other's viewpoint so that what the other person has to say becomes illuminating.

If someone could give me a translation of this "ευμενεις ελενχοι," as well as point towards where in Plato Gadamer might be referring to, that would be much appreciated. Thank you!

In match monsters game there are 2 ways to purchase a monster, either buy blue chips or golden coins.. those monsters require blue chips cannot be bought as a gift.. is there a possibility to be fixed soon?

(Only those which require golden coins can be bought as a gift to someone else)

The Ion is a weaker dialogue which uses poor reasoning which Goethe was correct to criticize as one of the weaker dialogues. Some problems I found with it

1. Poetry and medicine are not similar practices. Were someone to speak of quack medicine the practitioner would know when to identify it even if he didn't like it. Ion gives no specific reason for a special affinity for Homer and a distaste of others like Hesiod. This leads to issue 2
2. Ion claims other poets "put him to sleep and he has nothing to say about them" which were we to keep the medicine analogy would be like a doctor identifying a quack medicine regime and saying he fell asleep and has nothing else to say about it besides that it isn't beneficial. Ion's reasons for disliking other poets are incredibly evasive and he is merely written poorly.

Were Ion to merely respond with a clear reason for hating lesser poets than Homer the entire dialogue would have ended in the first few paragraphs.

Is the Complete Works of Plato by John Cooper and D.S. Hutchinson a good translation?

Has anyone come across a good description of The Matrix movie being based on Plato’s Cave Allegory?

This was one of the best lines Plato delivered. It turned me into a Nihilist and threw me into a existential crisis. Happiness down, knowledge up.

Gorgias is Plato's best work, you can skip Polus and go right to Callicles.

For context, I'm looking for advice to sort of clarify an idea I have for an essay (which is partly written already) about the purpose of human souls being trapped in incarnate bodies. Basically, I'm arguing that humanity purposely imprisoned itself in order to "rediscover" the wonder and appreciation of the Forms sort of like how our real brains go to sleep and dream in order to organize and prepare for more time spent awake and experiencing more things. I should note that, due to time constraints, I have limited my discussion to just Phaedo and Republic books 7 and 10. I may end up including bits of Meno since a friend of mine has already studied it and could give me the important bits I need.

I have already defined and distinguished the immortality of the soul and the vice and pleasurable lures of the body. I have also discussed recollection as evidence that we once did live in perfect presence of the Forms. I am also discussing how Socrates says that the gods are good in Republic as they reward justice, which Socrates asserts is a good thing for the soul earlier in book 10 but how there are "better" gods as he says in Phaedo. I also plan to talk about the divine judgement from the Myth of Er and how it demonstrates why we must live many lives and how it relates to the goal of the philosopher in "preparing for death" as Socrates describes in Phaedo.

What I am wondering is what the good thing he calls "wisdom" in Republic is. I know Plato talks about wisdom in Meno but I don't know if I have time to comb through Meno. If someone can tell me if he clarifies anything about wisdom in the two books I have read or can tell me exactly where he discusses the nature of wisdom in Meno, that would probably help. In particular, I'm wondering what it has to do with justice and virtue.

Sorry if this seems a bit rambly so far, I'm just wondering what you guys think about this topic an what I should include before trying to wrap it all up in my explanation/model for the goal of our mortal imprisonment.

Edit: Should I read Phaedrus as well? A couple classmates recommended it but as I said before, I need to be certain given the time constraint. If this is recommended, which parts? The first big chunk was all information I had already gotten out of Phaedo.

Hi guys, I’m studying Plato in course rn and I need some further reading texts that I can read quickly, I don’t want to buy the books because they’re super short and I preferably need a digi copy

Can you please link some pdfs of Plato’s works? Anything random would be cool but preferably on the forms, especially The Monad. Thank you

Edit: Thanks for the links

I just started reading Plato’s Republic, and only a few pages in the translator adds a page-long note about how the word “techne” in Greek refers to all sorts of stuff: skills, professions, disciplines etc., and how techne is notoriously hard to translate. My question is: why even translate it? If you define it well then there’s no need to try to translate it to an English word, and then you wouldn’t have to put a goddamn asterisk every damn time you write the word “professional skill” or whatever. It would just help keep the context better imo. For reference I’m reading the “penguin classics” version.

How is friendship defined according to Plato? Charmides clearly defines courage temperance. But Lysis takes a hard turn at the end and leaves us hanging. What do you make of this dialogue?

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This 5 year old though...

You tell him something 2 days before and he brings it up at the opportune moment.

The moment you use "might makes right" justice on the fellow siblings, he whines about injustice.

And ofc, questions everything.

I think its good to have a conventionally moral person in the family to counter their nihilist Dad.

Just watched this short lecture about Plato’s takes on sex/gender/families.
He arguedd society should get rid of biological families, have people reproduce through orgies, and then have all children be raised by the state.

I wonder how this would play out in our modern societies… I think it would make for a fairer world. and more fun!

In Burnet's edition of Plato's "Philebus," at 34b6, there is a reference to "Turr." I am unable to figure out whether that refers to a MSS or an Editor. I have exhausted my Google Scholar, Google Books, Google Search skills. The only possible match I could come up with is "Johannes de Turrecremata". But I was unable to check this. I would be extremely grateful for any advicr or help!

Hello, I am an art student seeking seeking to explore the idea of the tripartite soul through art, I’m thinking 3 abstract transparent layers each depicting an aspect of the soul, logistikon, thymoedies and epithymetikon. I just wanted to post on here and ask if anyone has any insights or advice, I honestly don’t much about Plato I just thought exploring this idea could be interesting as my brief is based on the Aristotle quote ‘the whole is greater than the sum of its parts’. So yeah if anyone has ideas on how I could best represent this, and ideas I could incorporate that would be much appreciated :)

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I'm doing a fun thought experiment on how Plato would fare as a modern day influencer.

It started off as a parody and I even built a fitness/lifestyle influencer page for him.

But I'd like to evolve this into something that actually reflects how his thoughts and values would interact with todays media. So I'm looking for insights both from people who are well versed with his works and from those who know nearly nothing about him.

If you've got 5 minutes to spare, please help my research by sharing your thoughts through the link in my comment.

"nature herself intimates that it is just for the better to have more than the worse, the more powerful than the weaker; and in many ways she shows, among men as well as among animals, and indeed among whole cities and races, that justice consists in the superior ruling over and having more than the inferior. "

I think this is the most profound words Plato wrote IMO.

We give him credit for being an Idealist, but right here he is well aware of Reality. Further, Plato's Socrates doesnt really beat Callicles in Gorgias. Socrates gets a few blows questioning what doesnt it mean to be "The Best", but ends up resorting to a religious prayer of sorts at the end.