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Need help on finding the piano chords to unreleased John Lennon song

Hello everyone,

I recently stumbled upon an unreleased John Lennon song called “Memories.” I’ve been having some trouble finding the right piano chords to learn how to play it. Since it’s unreleased, I know there’s not much sheet music available.

Does anybody know any good resources that could help me figure out the chords, or does anyone have the chords to the song? Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.

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2024/07/23
21:13 UTC

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WTC preludes are extremely underrated for developing technique.

I learned piano for a few years as a kid, and made it up to probably around a 4 (last thing I learned was Bach Invention 4). I didn't touch a key for easily 7-8 years. When I got back into playing, the first thing I went for was the inventions and after I got most of the easy/intermediate ones down, I moved onto the WTC, which seemed like the natural continuation. For the last 3.5/4 years, my routine has been to be working on one WTC prelude for technique and one other piece (First some WTC fugues, now Beethoven Sonatas). I've had such incredible success with this method that I'm honestly astounded. I just finished with the final of the Appassionata (not PERFECTLY, but maybe 80% of what I would like in terms of tempo and interpretation. I think this is pretty good for 4 years and no teacher. The Pathetique first movement, and Moonlight final I could play at maybe 95%) and I feel like going from a 4 piece to a 9 (the most common difficulty rating i've seen for it) is pretty insane. I think that most of the attribution should go to grinding out the WTC preludes and I don't think that they are praised enough for this, especially in comparison with Hanon or Czerny or the like. I tried Hanon for like two months and it was just miserable. My technique definitely improved noticeably for the small amount of time a put in but it was just so painful to motivate myself. Anyone have a similar experience or any thoughts?

7 Comments
2024/07/23
21:08 UTC

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First time playing the piano i recorded a improvisation for a avantgarde/experimental project. I would be honored if you give me some feedback.

1 Comment
2024/07/23
20:50 UTC

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I used to play when I was younger and I’m trying to get back into it. Do you have any tips on how I can get started ?

I really want to learn the chords and to be able to fully play notes by reading any suggestions on how I can learn fast and effective (apps/books etc.) ?

0 Comments
2024/07/23
20:38 UTC

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Kawai ES7 : metallic hammer fell from some keys

Hello,

I have a Kawai ES7 that has been through a lot (I may be the third or fourth owner).

Some hammers have come loose from the keys and have fallen into the case. What kind of degreaser, grease, and glue should I use to fix them back in place?

Thanks a lot

0 Comments
2024/07/23
20:00 UTC

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Looking for new headphones for Roland FP-90X

I'm struggling with getting decent headphone sound quality from the newly bought Roland FP-90X.
I've got AKG K240 and some Sony earplugs, which I don't complain about when listening to PC, but for some reason Roland makes the first sound muffled and the second too bright.

I've read other people experienced similar issues:
https://www.reddit.com/r/piano/comments/ajt0zq/roland_fp90_headphone_audio/
Not sure if there's something defective or weird going on.

What's your experience? Can you recommend headphones you are happy with when playing your FP-90X?
Ideally without an additional amplifier.

0 Comments
2024/07/23
19:58 UTC

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How to be more creative with improv

Improvisation is sort of my specialty on piano. I mostly play by ear, and played when I was little, then picked it back up about 2 years ago now. I progressed quickly because I was super obsessed for a while. I'm still obsessed, but it's more like a skill I have now as I feel like I'm happy with the technical ability I've reached and all that. A few months ago, I got a job playing background piano in a restaurant and it's really challenged my improv skills. It has definitely developed my ability because it forces me to sit down for two hours once a week and play without stopping. However, oftentimes it feels like I'm just kinda letting my fingers breathe if that makes sense, without thinking to much. Aka the pieces I improvise often don't really go anywhere it's just a bunch of ideas put together. the way I've trained myself is so my fingers can play what I hear in my head, but I guess for now I can only hear so much and I'm having trouble hearing new things to play. How can I be more creative with it? How can I make my pieces go somewhere and have depth?

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2024/07/23
18:57 UTC

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Do you practice bar by bar or learn the whole piece slowly and then perfect it ?

I tend to learn couple of bars and then try to play it fast and good after that I move to the next bar, should I learn the whole piece and then focus on the details after ? What do you think is the best approach?

4 Comments
2024/07/23
18:26 UTC

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A short etude I wrote to work on hand crossing (free sheet music in video description)

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2024/07/23
17:57 UTC

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For my classically trained adult pianists out there (working in fields completely unrelated to music) - have any of you enrolled in lessons again?

Hi friends, I was classically trained and majored in music (along with biology) in college, and now am 5+ years out working a desk job in an entirely unrelated field.

When I graduated, I was very burnt out musically. I had never known a life without having to practice, and was so tired of the grueling lessons, rehearsals, and concerts. I was so excited to be free and explore other interests, as piano had unfortunately been something I was always pressured to stick with because I was "good."

Since college, I've only played a little bit here and there on my digital piano. Now, I feel like enough time has passed that I've actually found myself craving lessons and the improvement that comes with routine practice. I'm also interested in learning jazz piano and building some theory and improvisation skills that are sorely lacking.

So I'm curious! Have any of you, particularly those who have previously played at a high level, returned to lessons as adults? What was it like balancing that with a job and other responsibilities? Was it worth the money?

thanks :)

16 Comments
2024/07/23
17:39 UTC

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Do you add some bass to Chopin too?

Any critique would be welcome (sorry in advance for the bad audio and pedal over use)

21 Comments
2024/07/23
17:34 UTC

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Edition for Prokofiev piano sonatas

Which edition would you'll recommend for l've recently been wanting to start studying one of them. I was looking at the International Music Company edition as a possibility. There are not a whole lot of editions to choose from so I'm curious if I should just go with this one or if I should get a different edition.

2 Comments
2024/07/23
17:21 UTC

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What keyboard is this?

I want to recreate this track, but I can’t figure out what piano/keyboard is in the original. The creator told me the only thing he remembered was that it was a “fairly stock keyboard.” What keyboard sound/tone is it? I made a short video trying to remove different instruments to better help identify it.

4 Comments
2024/07/23
16:56 UTC

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Thinking about learning the rest of this piece, critics pls do ur worse :)

Rondo Alla Turca- Wolfie

9 Comments
2024/07/23
16:03 UTC

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What is the hardest Bach three part invention?

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3 Comments
2024/07/23
15:53 UTC

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This 2 year old Yamaha piano facebook marketplace scam is alive and well.

I saw a marketplace post for a free Yamaha GT 7 in Chelsea, NYC. It was posted by a profile with picture of 2 white old ladies and the first name was Kimnah.

She said that she needs the piano out today and that she nicely suggested that I use her moving company and that I reach out to them before noon EST. It is 11.30am EST now. And she gave me the number of the moving company that would deliver it to my house.

I just started playing keyboard a month back so I had no idea about this piano and I looked it up online. Google shows me the reddit link of the scam.

By the time I go back to the facebook window, she has deleted the chat and blocked me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/piano/comments/10m49bk/almost_got_scammed_free_yamaha_baby_grand_piano/

7 Comments
2024/07/23
15:40 UTC

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Can anyone please listen and critique my recording of Liebestraum no 3?

I recorded this a few months ago, so there are a few mistakes that I would play correctly now. I just want critique on my interpretation, if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know!

https://youtu.be/qv0yofR6gpU?si=rNKJHcI8m444e4cS

3 Comments
2024/07/23
15:30 UTC

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People not being able to afford classical music lessons but who have the possibility to make music with other people while growing up profit form "falling notes on youtube"

you can make music with it and it helps to develope the ability to conceptualise the piano as an instrument and a field.

In my experience:

I founded a band together with some friends in our rich friends basement when we were like 15. This is before my classical hearing training. We learned songs by ear and optimised with whatever we found on youtube to compare. This practise developed our music making skills. So sheet music purism outside of classical piano solo repertoire can go die.

4 Comments
2024/07/23
15:19 UTC

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Greensleeves Alfred's Book 1

I've been practicing piano for about 7 months now. Kindly share areas i can improve at.

5 Comments
2024/07/23
15:00 UTC

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cute video from when i was 9 lol 🥹💓

Hey guys! I would like to make it clear that I understood that this music was not the most ideal for my technique at the time, but it was what I played to enter the conservatory! Nowadays I see how much I've evolved technically, but I appreciate all my mini-me's hard work hehe 🥹✨💓

15 Comments
2024/07/23
13:49 UTC

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Roland fp-10 doesn't turn on

What the heck happened? I tired to switch power outlet but same

5 Comments
2024/07/23
13:47 UTC

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Ghost touch?

Hello, i own a Yamaha psr-273 for abt 2 years now but recently i ran through a problem, when i turned on the keyboard and started playing, suddenly the keys played random notes when i press certain keys, like whenever i press g, the key c also plays, and when i keep holding it, it Repeatedly plays c for some reason, but whenever i hold both, theres no problem, this is also for some other keys, i dont know what happened, nothing's spilled on it, no fur or anything got in, and i just opened it since 3 days so i havent touched it that much but it was working great last time i opened it, it just seemed to not work right now, its kind of annoying and i cant play, my keyboard btw has no batteries and is always plugged in, its been like that for the past year and doesnt seem to be a problem, also had that for my past keyboards, thanks!

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2024/07/23
13:47 UTC

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How to learn Chopin Fantasie Impromptu polyrythms?

I just started learning Fantasie Impromptu (right hand) like yesterday. When i started learning left hand, then things started to really bug me so much, because it's literally 3 against 4. Does anyone, who learned this piece who possibly may have also faced difficulties with this issue, have a sollution?

21 Comments
2024/07/23
13:14 UTC

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how do I improve sight reading???

I am 15 and I am doing ABRSM grade 8 at the moment. Sight reading single-handedly causes me to lose marks because it’s crazy hard on piano, especially at higher grades. I’m also starting to join more bands and clubs at school where my lack of sight reading shows and I would like to know how I can get more fluent at sight reading because at the moment I’d rather jump off a cliff than do some. Any tips?

14 Comments
2024/07/23
12:37 UTC

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Exam in November/December. How do I practice from here?

As the title says, I have my Associate diploma exam in November/December (date TBD).

My pieces are:

Bach Partita in Cm (Sinfonia)
Mozart Sonata F Maj (K332)
Rach G#m prelude (32/12)
Ravel Mirroirs (La vallee des Cloches).

I don't have to play the pieces from memory and will have my sheet music during the exam. I feel like, other than my crippling performance anxiety, I have a good grasp of all of the pieces, with maybe a few wrinkles to iron out in the Bach and the last movement of the Mozart.

Other than playing the pieces each night and spending time on troublesome spots, what's a good practice routine that I can employ between now and the exam to maximise practice time?

2 Comments
2024/07/23
11:52 UTC

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Frédéric Chopin - Barcarolle, Op.60 (Hmelnitsky)

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2024/07/23
11:30 UTC

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first part of the entertainer done. jump from learning grade 7. how did i do?

30 Comments
2024/07/23
11:13 UTC

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If one were, hypothetically, to be about to release a piano method that states:

  1. The fundamental movements used to play the piano are a) the flexion (bending) of the finger at the large knuckle and b) abduction of the thumb at the wrist joint; with all other movements subservient to, resulting from, or standing in for these. The hand and fingers must discover and develop the fastest possible twitch-relax movements into the keys.

  2. The full weight of the forearm can and should be comfortably supported by any single or multiple finger(s) at will, and almost all of the time. (This was discovered by the largely self-taught Godowsky around the age of 20 and is achieved by conscious relaxation of the brachialis and brachioradialis muscles.)

  3. The intrinsic hand muscles (of which each finger has its own independent set and allow the fingers to straighten as they flex the large knuckle) can do a lot more of both 1. and 2. than is commonly taught, and can do this without interfering as much with the wrist flexors as the large finger flexors in the arm (which curl the fingers in from the tips and flex the wrist), so with less activity through the carpal tunnel.

  4. Aside from all the other common tension issues, most piano students (and many professionals) have tense, locked-up intrinsic hand muscles or merely have insufficient conscious communication with them, resulting in the following problems:

  5. "There's no such thing as finger independence" has been misunderstood.

  6. "There are no muscles in the fingers" has been misunderstood.

  7. "Rotation" while essential, has been misunderstood and unduly elevated. The Taubman technique solves common but specific tension problems; it is not a complete system for virtuosic, expressive piano playing - merely one piece in the puzzle. (I agree with Abby Whiteside: “Rotary action is not quite the cure-all that it is frequently rated to be,” but rather than preventing the use of the upper arm as Whiteside states, I strongly believe that focus on rotation (and exaggerated demonization of “stretching” and “twisting”) prevents real development of the soft but enlivened, supple but active hand – the fingers as “tentacles” (Argerich in Concert Prive chez Martha Argerich (2021)). In this respect I see it as a technical “dead end”.)

  8. Tone quality and amplitude are not controlled by weight, but by the speed and condition of the hammer when it is thrown from the mechanism and begins its deceleration towards the string. The common discussion of the concept of arm weight at the piano is mostly misunderstood, contradictory and illogical. Simply: soft tones come from slow hammers. Arm weight should be as fully discharged as possible, as often as possible (certainly even during pianissimo playing). The only way to "reduce" the weight of the arm is to introduce tension in the elbow (and worse, often the shoulder – what student doesn't instinctively raise their shoulders as if trying to shrink away from the keyboard when they try to play pianissimo?) The only way to "increase" the weight of the arm is to relax it (i.e. put it into its default state) or to use thrust from the triceps - which is no longer "weight". The key bed is for resting on, not pushing into. How much force goes into the keybed (which is when “weight” is sensed at the fingertips) is completely irrelevant (although often correlated) to the sound produced.

  9. Only the fingers are sensitive enough to achieve full control of the speed at which the key passes through the escapement.

  10. The emphasis on movements by the arms, shoulders and torso and demonization of finger training (and thus, sensitivity) has created the late 20^(th) century conservatoire style of playing which lacks refined emotional content and differentiation in the sound. How many modern pianists have the sensitivity in the fingers to be able write with a quill pen (whose movements are necessarily controlled by the intrinsic hand muscles)? On this point, I do believe that many modern pianos are too heavy, although most are not so heavy as to prevent efficient finger action alone from easily depressing the key.

  11. Profound, conscious, targeted, arm and hand relaxation is the prime objective, in order to cultivate maximum suppleness, responsiveness, speed, ease and sensitivity.

  12. The knowledge of which nerve is firing (radial, median, ulnar) in order to perform or sense a specific movement is just as (if not more) useful than the knowledge of muscles or bones, because the signal runs both ways and that's where sensation happens.

  13. The sensation(s) (i.e. input) of playing is the paramount dataset on which we should be fully concentrated at all times.

  14. All bodily movements can be part of a virtuoso technique, but habitual (unconscious) use or neglect of any of them can be detrimental. There is only our awareness and we can only become aware through attending to our sensations.

Do you think people would get angry?

30 Comments
2024/07/23
11:07 UTC

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Child wants to stop piano lessons, should I let them?

My 9yo complains relentlessly when they have to do their daily 15 minutes of piano practice and asks to stop piano. They also have 30 mins with a teacher weekly that they don’t tend to complain about.

Thoughts on letting them quit vs sticking with it?

197 Comments
2024/07/23
11:03 UTC

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