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Everything about the Phoenicians, a thalassocratic Canaanite people from modern-day Lebanon famous for colonizing the Mediterranean and spreading the alphabet.

Welcome to /r/PhoeniciaHistoryFacts. History facts on the Phoenicians, Punics, and Canaanites!

History facts on the Phoenicians, Punics, and Canaanites!

The Phoenicians originated from modern day Lebanon. They colonized much of the Mediterranean coast and founded powerful colonies that rivaled the Greeks and Romans. Their colonies reached as far as Cadiz in Spain and Lisbon in Portugal. One particular colony was Carthage in North Africa. Famous city.

They were expert sailors, shipbuilders, and merchants. They were known for their quality wine and their Tyrian Purple dye. They also created the world’s first alphabet and spread it to the people they traded with, most notably the Greeks. It is the ancestor to the Latin alphabet we use today.

Perhaps the most famous Phoenician person is Hannibal Barca, born in Carthage, who almost brought Rome to destruction and is still studied in military academies today.


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Goodbye, Phoenicia and hello Syria

8 Comments
2024/11/27
17:03 UTC

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Is there a practical reason for this design of the Carthaginian harbor?

It looks so awesome, like straight out of a sci-fi movie. What’s the benefit of this design? Rectangular mercantile harbor outside the circular war harbor? Doesn’t the narrow passage and the circular ring prevent quick mobilization of the warships?

25 Comments
2024/11/07
02:12 UTC

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Bilingual Stela seen in Athens Museum

Greek:

Ἀντίπατρος Ἀφροδισίου Ἀσκαλωνίτης.

Δομσαλὼς Δομανὼ Σιδώνιος ἀνέθηκε.

Antipatros, son of Aphrodisios, of Ascalon.

Domzalos, son of Domanos, of Sidon, dedicated [this].

Phoenician:

'NK ŠM[.] BN 'BD'ŠTRT 'ŠQLNY 

'S YTN'T 'NK D'MȘLH BN DMHN' ȘDNY 

I am Shem[.], son of Abdashtart, from Ashkelon.

(This here is the stele,) which I, Domseleh, son of Domhano, from Sidon, have erected

https://preview.redd.it/wn25j6o8cxyd1.jpg?width=3905&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7c251c6409d1bc837841da1c4ddc85e7662dc19

2 Comments
2024/11/04
17:56 UTC

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Artefact of the Week: Carthaginian shekel made of electrum, 4 century BCE. Jenkins-Lewis Group III

7 Comments
2024/11/04
17:06 UTC

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Hiring long term faceless documentary editor (Afro-Asiatic channel)

I have had editors reach out from non-editing subreddits before, and I assume someone with a background related to these subjects might have some additional insight when it comes to adding the right aesthetic to the videos, so I thought I would reach out here. Looking for someone who can edit like this, my Indo-European channel is also linked on my profile:

https://youtu.be/Y7ExXLcy26s?si=YXQL6W3JY9FYJPdz

https://youtu.be/4hZN4YtBPpg?si=Nir4bAxyauZTJSAo

Would prefer if you just send 1-2 examples of editing that would match what I am looking for. I will only move over to another messaging app when I decide to move forward with you. Editing does not need to be as complex as the linked examples, but should be visually appealing. My current budget is [$10/min of completed video], although I am open to increasing this if my channel grows and I like your work. Must be available to edit at least every 2 weeks, the general delivery time should be 5 days/10 min, but it can be extended for more complex animations. Must be able to do map animations. I will try to find some images and music, but you must be willing to research and find the rest. The topic is Afro-Asiatic studies, I would like a brief statement about how interesting that topic might be for you and why. I would like to see a one-minute sample with materials I provide, so you must be willing to do that.

2 Comments
2024/10/24
08:32 UTC

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When reading the history of the various city-states (Tyre, Sidon, Byblos etc) in Phoenicia proper, it seems that, for the most part, Tyre enjoyed a far greater and lengthier success and impact compared to the other cities. If that’s the case, why did Tyre do so well?

I know my measure is pretty vague and that the other city states achieved periods of preeminence, I just got the impression that their’s was spottier and not as consistent as Tyre’s.

6 Comments
2024/10/23
22:28 UTC

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Why did the Romans not remove Hannibal from history?

8 Comments
2024/10/17
14:05 UTC

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Hiring narrator for Afro-Asiatic channel

I am currently trying to start a YouTube channel on Afro-Asiatic studies. Phoenicians spoke an Afro-Asiatic language, so I think it is relevant. I have a low budget, so I am willing to start at $50 for 2500 words, but I am open to increasing that if I like your work and my channel continues to grow. Let me know if you are interested.

1 Comment
2024/10/13
01:15 UTC

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Inscription Phénicienne de Marseille

Digital edition of this phoenician inscription from Carthage, discovered in Marseilles in 1844, which describes sacrificial regulations.

De Saulcy gives comparisons with vetero-testamentary prescriptions.

https://www.academia.edu/43270574/Inscription_Ph%C3%A9nicienne_de_Marseille

https://preview.redd.it/iwsdrlibtaud1.png?width=1003&format=png&auto=webp&s=85d9cdc977c774086cc39c359026598611c33b87

1 Comment
2024/10/12
09:59 UTC

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Votive stele with a relief representing a sacrifice to Goddess Tanit. At the top, two sphinxes. 2nd century BCE, Carthage.

3 Comments
2024/10/08
17:46 UTC

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Show off your Phoenician library!

7 Comments
2024/10/05
18:04 UTC

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Honestly, this is the way most of research on Carthage is done 😅

3 Comments
2024/10/05
10:08 UTC

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Artefact of the Week: Hannibal by S. Slodtz, Louvre. In this famours depiction, Hannibal counts the rings of Roman equestians fallen in the battle of Cannae, while holding a Roman aquila standard upside down.

7 Comments
2024/10/02
16:24 UTC

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Join r/PhoeniciaHistoryFacts on Telegram! https://t.me/PhoeniciaHistory

Dear All,

I am glad to inform that PhoeniciaHistoryFacts is now on Telegram and you are all heartily invited to join!
https://t.me/PhoeniciaHistory

For now the idea is to copy content from here, but of course your comments as well as posts are most welcome!

3 Comments
2024/09/29
08:44 UTC

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Artefact of the Week: Statue of goddess Tanit (Estatua del Museo de Arqueología de Cataluña en Barcelona).

2 Comments
2024/09/28
06:18 UTC

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Do we know anything else about Hannibal Barca and Himilce of Castulo from ancient and/or modern Spanish/Portuguese sources?

Hey guys, my name’s Nat.
I’m new here, and I just got into researching things about the Punic Wars a couple of weeks ago because I am writing a book series/making a webcomic series about this family who are loosely based on the Barcide family who were the Royal family of the Kingdom of Diamonds (originally equivalent to the Carthaginian Empire in the world of I created called Cardsdale ).

I have the Prince of Diamonds who’s name is Anibal and an Iberian girl who is named Violeta who are actually based on Hannibal Barca and his wife Himilce of Castulo.

I’ve been doing some research on this couple, and I kinda stumbled upon some archeological documentaries from Castulo, Spain, various articles examining their story. I also stumbled upon “Las fiestas de Cartaginenses y Romanos“ which actually celebrates their marriage in the port of Cartagena Spain as part of a week long reenactment of the city’s foundation story.

I would love to know if there’s any more to their official story in the ancient and/or modern Spanish and Portuguese historical record because I would love to have at least 2 sides of this story so I can portray it as accurate as I can when I get to writing my version of the story … I think it’s so unfair that Himilce was erased from history by the Romans

5 Comments
2024/09/23
22:51 UTC

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Do you guys have a discord server

If not I'd love to make one and have a community for all of us

4 Comments
2024/09/21
14:55 UTC

1

We're the pheonicians before Abraham?

Did the pheonicians live before or after Abraham?

2 Comments
2024/09/13
22:15 UTC

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"Antiquitates Punicae", my own poem

"Antiquitates Punicae"

And as yesterday, I see it clear:

The hound tears the prey to shreds, I fear!..

And spirals like waves, the mollusk on teeth

Sprays purple juice of Melqart beneath!..

I remember well those distant ages past:

Tyre launched ships like arrows, fast!

Back then I gripped the oars with might,

On cedar masts, I winded with delight.

And the Phoenician sail held its beacon bright,

Guiding forth through the sea's endless fars!..

Oil, wine, glass, purple, and cedar's arc -

They sped through the miles, like a headlong spark!..

And grain by grain, like sands that entwine,

From the depths of ages, the sea’s paths align!

The clay curled in hulls to shape amphorae's form,

While Papyrus from Gebal walked firm through the swarm!..

And like pearls in the beads that adorned Tanit,

Cities blossomed then, in coastal sunlight!..

Along Afri’ banks, the world thrived and grew,

To Agadir, Melqart forged through the Atlas anew!

2 Comments
2024/09/06
10:48 UTC

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Papyrus narrating the story of the wise chancellor Ahiqar in Aramaic, 5th century BC from Elephantine, Egypt. In it, it contrasts the Sidonian who is familiar with the sea with the Arabian who is more comfortable inland. It's considered one of the earliest 'international books' of world literature.

"Usually [Near Eastern sources] simply identify people as belonging to one of the coastal cities, even in contexts where others are given larger regional designations: the Ahiqar, for instance, a fifth- century BCE Aramaic document from Elephantine in Egypt, contrasts the 'Sidonian' who is familiar with the sea with the 'Arabian' who is m comfortable inland" (44).

In Search of the Phoenicians by Josephine Quinn

3 Comments
2024/08/28
05:35 UTC

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Are the canaanites/pheonicians the original arabs?

The canaanites/pheonicians lived before the arabs from what I know and that they spoke what is known today as arabic. Please what is the history behind it? Are they the original arabs or is it Yemen?

0 Comments
2024/08/27
23:53 UTC

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Canaanites/pheonicians true/original arabs?

Are the cannanites the original arabs? From what I learnt today, arabs fint come from Yemen, they originate from the levant. Pheonicians/canaanites are the original arabs and that after many, many years, the name changed, and a lot of bs happened. Is that true?

5 Comments
2024/08/28
01:52 UTC

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Please answer my question below:

If pheonicians are canaanites and according to my dad, canaanites are the "original" arabs because they live in the arab peninsula before the arabs, then why do alot of pheonicians have European dna? When you go to lebanon, which is considered the land of the phenicians, a lot of them will tell you I'm not arab I'm a pheonician. I'm European.

0 Comments
2024/08/27
12:21 UTC

2

Could anyone help me figure out this word please

Hello,

My friend gave me a sketch and on it, he wrote this word. And I can't figure out which language it is or what it means. Initially, I thought it might be Greek but then I eliminated it. Then I suspected Phoenician but unfortunately, I do not have much knowledge of it Therefore I wanted to know if someone could confirm to me whether this is Phoenician or not. And if not, does anyone know what language it might be or what the word means?

Thank you so much in advance!

https://preview.redd.it/vonqpw9ob8ld1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=c5db18ab95af9e322b3e85b8a2723499f23a3e67

6 Comments
2024/08/27
16:01 UTC

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Are all lebanese pheonicians, or not?

My mom is lebanese from beirut and I looked up her families name and where it goes back to, and it turned out she is originally from a tribe from the hijaz (saudi arabia). My dad is jordanian, but originally from south lebanon. My mom keeps telling my sister and i that she isn't arab and that we aren't "real" arabs. A long time ago, my mom told me about her family and that they belong to the hijaz, but now she said it isn't true and that we aren't arabs and that keeps annoying me because my sister got convinced and we don't even look European or "non-arabs". From what I know that not all lebanses are arabs and not all are pheonicians because if you look back a long, long, long time ago, the real arabs used to live in Yemen, Oman, bahrain (not sure about bahrain), qatar, kuwait, saudi arabia, Iraq, jordan, Syria, lebanon, palestine, and a tiny but of egypt then the pheonicians came and started mixing with the arabs In lebanon and palestine, then they stayed and lived there and are still there until now. Is my info correct, or is my mom correct? I know I have a lot of grammsr mistakes amd it's because I typed too fast

45 Comments
2024/08/26
21:39 UTC

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Looking for recent digs that found Phoenician bottle manufacturing sites on the Mediterranean

URLs on these specific digs would be appreciated

2 Comments
2024/08/19
07:51 UTC

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