Just wanted to hear your opinion on this, he has kind of a fetish to look in the mirror while having sex, a typical narcissist.

Time and time again, Alfie betrays Tommy Shelby, and yet Tom continues to associate with him and scheme with him?

S1, tom extends a hand after recieving word from Alfie, they make a deal, Alfie betrays tom and allies with Sabini again, killing a peaky captain (Billy Kitchen) and getting Arthur locked up, S3, Tom brings Alfie in to the fold to act as a jeweler. Alfie betrays Tom again by making a deal with The Odd Fellows so he can have access to the russian vault. Somehow manages to flip thr betrayal and convince tommy that he himself is at fault, S4, Alfie comes to Tommy for help to promote Goliath, Tommy helps without a second thought, Alfie betrays Tom once again by making a deal with Luca Changretta, Tom figures out and is ready to kill Alfie, until he admits he has cancer.

My question is, What does Alfie actually think of Tommy? They refer to each other as dear friends and obviously have some sort of respect for each other, yet Alfie wastes no time turning on tom in a split second. Does he think tommy is a chump? Does he like testing tom to see how he will "dig himself out of this one" or is it really just business to Alfie and he just does whats best for him? Bonus question: why does tom allow it and never take revenge until s4? Does he fear alfie's position as a gang leader? Is he reluctant to kill a dear friend? Or is alfie a useful connection to tom?

Why did Tommy sleep with Diana? He was trying to prove loyalty but was this necessary? Did he even want it? I’m confused.

i’m pretty sure it’s late season 3-4 but while he was doing cocaine he was also popping pills while doing it. i never really heard anyone mention this in the show and was wondering if anyone knew what these were, it’s been eating away at my brain for awhile.

I was deeply entrenched in the PB fandom in 2016 and have since fallen away, but damn, Grace’s death still sticks in my craw. It’s not surprising that they killed Grace—while Steven Knight created some amazing female characters for the series, he didn’t always treat them thoughtfully or respectfully. It was predictable that Tommy’s angst and SK’s preference for a new woman every season would take precedence over Grace’s story. And frankly, having the main character of a gangster show married would have been hard to keep compelling. I think it could have been done, but I understand why it wasn’t.

BUT.

What. Happened. Behind. The. Scenes. Of. Season. 3.

It is SO WEIRD that the first episode of season 3 sets up so many potentially interesting Grace storylines: her conflict with Polly, the bread crumbs of info about her dead husband, her military uncle being in conflict with the Shelbys.

And then she just dies!!! And none of it is ever brought up again??? Were the writers so intent on shocking us with her death that they planted all these red herrings? Were they just lazy? Or, was there some kind of behind-the-scenes conflict with Annabelle Wallis that lead to them having to kill her character off earlier than expected?

I remember a few conspiracy theories floating around back then. One of my favorites was that Tom Hardy wanted his wife (Charlotte Riley) to continue being on the show and pressured Steven Knight into pushing Annabelle out. There’s absolutely no basis in fact for this, it’s just kind of fun and gossipy to think about. A lot of people thought it was a fake-out and that Grace was just “in hiding” somewhere to be kept safe and going to be brought back. Personally, I think that Annabelle Wallis really wanted to be an A-lister (there was a big publicity push for her around the time she was in The Mummy) and may have pissed off Steven Knight by bowing out of PB earlier than expected to prioritize her Hollywood career.

All I know is that I would love to sit down for drinks with someone who can spill the tea about what really happened. In the meantime, I will continue to be one of about ten people out there who mourn what could have been with Grace Shelby.

Any one else have thoughts or theories on this?

I’ve just finished the series and I’ve been a Radiohead fan a very long time. Love all their stuff. I’ve just to say the usage of Radiohead during the various scenes brought me to tears on a few occasions, especially when “Pyramid Song” was used. Utterly brilliant! Best usage of their music in movies/series bar none.

Why did it take so long for Tommy to get his family out of jail? If he already had struck a deal? I think they were in jail for about six months and I don’t understand why he couldn’t get them out sooner.

Mine are this two:

"I'm not a traitor to my class. I'm just an extreme example of what a working man can achieve."

"Everyone is a whore, Grace. We just sell different parts of ourselves."

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This quote is one of the best quotes in the show. Even though the scene is about Polly trying to gain Luca Changretta's trust in order to betray him, she was right what she say about the siblings. John had a moral compass and couldn't bring himself to kill his former teacher. He comforts Lizzie after she was abused during the horse race in S2. Lizzie also said to John: I don't see the same thing in your eyes as I do in Tommy's eyes. Arthur tried again and again in the series to be a good person, but he is always overwhelmed by his feelings and anger and can no longer control himself, but Arthur has a lot of empathy and Tommy's differences because he is blinded by his reckless ambition and has therefore gone down the wrong path. Polly was always a kind of mother figure for the brothers throughout the series and she knew the brothers better than any of the characters in PB.

Idk why but she bothers me the entire time she’s in the show. When she’s talking to Polly about going to New York and hands her the Statue of Liberty her New York accent comes out so strong “my baby will be born in New York”but it’s barely present any other time.

The Peaky Blinders Gang has a heavy emphasis on loyalty and commitment, especially for Tommy Shelby, but how come Tommy married Grace even tho Grace betrayed Tommy? I thought Tommy is the type of guy "Once you betray me, you are nothing to me and will be your worst enemy"? As we could see throughout the entire series where snitch and traitors have violent deaths of betraying the gang or Tommy, yet Grace was exempted from this and were even married to Tommy, isnt that contradictory and against Tommy's principles of loyalty?

Don't worry, I promise not to make fun of you even if you pick Tommy. He's cooler than us, but the trauma and self hatred are deeply relatable lmao

It's called Calm with Horses and it's fantastic!

I usually like her in movies etc but in the show she's overacting and it's so cringe to watch. Just super bad performance in my opinion. Pretty disappointing because I was excited to see her

I’m rewatching the show, and I’m getting really thrown off by what I’m seeing as inconsistencies in how the Changrettas act and are portrayed. Two main things:

1. Vicente Changrettas sends a hitman after Tommy, but doesn’t plan to leave for America until presumably several days later? Even if he had successfully killed Tommy, surely he would have known that the Peaky Blinders would come after him and plan some escape/exit plan? It doesn’t make sense to me that he and his wife try to escape several days later rather than simultaneously.

2. How is Luca so powerful? Don’t get me wrong, I know they are connected to the Italian mafia and all, but the Changrettas don’t seem that powerful in England. Vicente’s wife is a primary school teacher! Vicente and the Italians are paying a cut to the Peaky Blinders! Vicente has to send his kid away to the states when he was about to be pinched! How is it that Luca comes back with 15 men and the Peaky Blinders act as if the entire mob is after them? It just seems totally disconnected from the earlier depiction of the Changrettas in Birmingham.

Still love the show, but curious what others think!

Absolutely love the first two seasons, i’d put this up there with any other great show. My question as I just finished the 4th season, do they ever go back to Tommy using heroin or opium? It seemed like such an interesting character point that he had so much ptsd from war and was using and balancing that and the PB rise.

Which Character deserved actually better in the show and why this character a better life ?

I’ll start. Linda, your coke phase was endearing.

I am a sappy romantic and so I honestly have a lot of these. But the one I'm gonna go with is the scene between Arthur and Linda, after she tries to shoot him. Watching the anguish between those two amazing actors was rough.

Seeing Arthur cry and hold her in his arms while she was getting the bullet taken out, and the way he clung to her and begged her to run away with him, and she tried her feeble best to squirm away...woof. It was heartbreaking to me, because both of them were right AND wrong.

They'd been happy together for a time, and if they'd been allowed, I think they could've gone the distance. Arthur is a deeply broken person who did so many awful things, but his story is a common one of what was done to the poor men who fought WW1. I wanted a happy ending for him, and to see him put down his weapons and repent. I wanted him to have his garage. And unlike a lot of people here, I don't only see Linda as snakey and annoying. (Lol) I think she genuinely tried to help him, and just wasn't a match for his family's corruptive effect. I think she genuinely loved him a lot, and the anguish he causes her over time is a story that's familiar to me. It's hard and painful to love an unstable person. Over the course of the show, he breaks her heart, and then abruptly breaks her trust. And then there was no going back.

TLDR: They loved each other, but it gets TOO fucked up. That's what makes it so tragic to me.

In the first season Thomas meets with the Lee’s and says they are kin through his mother’s side. The Lees are very obviously Irish Traveller Gypsy’s (as they have the classic irish traveller carriages), an ethnicity that is completely unrelated to Romani gypsy’s and are only called gypsy’s because they are a nomadic community. Later in the show they meet with their Irish father. In Ireland there were no romani communities at the time, so for him to be a “gypsy” he would be an Irish traveller not Romani. Where is all of this misinformation coming from to say they are Romani?? why do they speak Romani language later on in the show. Why does Thomas speak Romanian (meant to be Romani) to the Lees they should be speaking Shelta, Gaelic, or English. I feel like they got a lot of who romani and irish travellers are mixed up.