/r/Palestine
r/Palestine: a forum for robust discussions encompassing all facets of Palestine, spanning its people, culture, art, history, politics, Israeli occupation, and various other facets.
The State of Palestine is an occupied nation that declared independence on November 15, 1988, with Jerusalem as its capital. r/Palestine community fervently advocates for the liberation of Palestine. 🇵🇸
Welcome to r/Palestine!
r/Palestine serves as a forum for robust discussions encompassing all facets of Palestine, spanning its people, culture, art, history, politics, Israeli occupation, and various other facets.
The State of Palestine is an occupied nation that declared independence on November 15, 1988, with Jerusalem as its capital. r/Palestine community fervently advocates for the liberation of Palestine. 🇵🇸
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UN Report - Israeli Practices towards the Palestinian People and the Question of Apartheid
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Some zionists came over and knocked this turkey display over at my university. Here are the before and after pictures:
They only know how to fight women, children, and turkey displays.
Not only has her role been cut but she has been replaced by an Israeli actress, make sure we boycott and show our support to May.
Let's give that hotel some love
Last weekend, a legal complaint by Hind Rajab Foundation led to the detention of an Israeli officer Elisha Leifman for 24 hours in Cyprus on allegations of war crimes in Gaza. The officer was swiftly returned to Israel on Saturday after intervention by the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Source: https://x.com/alarabytv/status/1858450077645508630?s=46
Neil Druckmann himself has admitted the game is an allegory for Israeli-Palestinian conflict, with Seraphites as stand-ins for Palestinians and WLF for Israel. He admitted this before the game was even released.
Link for proof: https://www.vice.com/en/article/bv8da4/the-not-so-hidden-israeli-politics-of-the-last-of-us-part-ii
1- The Palestinian stand-in in his game are insane deranged psychopaths. The game claims to be "showing all sides" but the Seraphites are just shown as unhinged crazy people and the only 2 "good" seraphites in the game side with Abby, the IDF stand-in.
2- Saying "I'm not racist, I like this one trans Palestinian" is called pinkwashing or rainbow imperialism. It's just justifying genocide using progressive sounding words. The character of Lev serves no point other than to portray Palestinians collectively as backwards anti-LGBT people.
3- "Cycle of Violence" is bullshit shitlib framing. The reason violence never ends in Palestine is that Israel is a settler colonial state whose mission statement is to eradicate Palestinians from their own land. "Cycle of Violence" makes it out to be some kind of misunderstanding and that Palestinians keep getting killed because they can't just "forgive and forget". There is nothing for Palestinians to "forget", the ethnic cleansing and their oppression is an ongoing process that happens daily in their lives, not something that happened one time.
4- Likewise, the game misrepresents the conflict by completely omitting the settler colonial nature of Israel. Abby and her friends are not keeping Seraphites in a racial ghetto in the game, so when Seraphites attack them you assume the Seraphites are just crazy people, which is what the author wants you to think.
5- In the end, the cycle of violence is "resolved" by just genociding the Palestinians. This is portrayed as something unfortunate but inevitable. The seraphites are shown so negatively by this point that most players won't really feel anything at all seeing them being genocided. In fact, the game spends the last moments before they are genocided to remind you that Palestinians are so unfathomably evil that the trans Palestinian's mother tried to kill her own child for being trans. Meanwhile in reality, it's not Palestinian mothers that kill Palestinian children, it's the Israeli army.
6- Neil Druckmann said he made this game because he watched 2 Israeli settlers be killed by Palestinians and felt hatred for Palestinians as a result. He said he was "disgusted" by his hatred for Palestinians but he also said he made the game so he could show everyone would feel the same hate in that situation. He basically felt he wanted to kill all Palestinians, then was like "ok maybe not all of them", and then made a game to persuade you to feel like you too, would want to kill all Palestinian, to make himself feel good about it. Except that most normal people do not want to commit genocide and Neil Druckmann is a psychopathic fuck, so instead it made everyone just feel the game was miserable for no reason.
7- He portrays the IDF as near perfect. Enormous amount of time is spent humanizing the IDF soldiers. Even the criticism of IDF which is that genociding the Palestinians is bad, is not shown to be a moral fault of IDF but rather, the Palestinians brought it on themselves by harassing the IDF too much.
8- Ellie is irrelevant to the story. The story is basically about Abby, the real protagonist. Ellie is basically just a stand-in for the American audience who over the course of the game learns to stop worrying and love the IDF. Joel is killed to simulate Neil Druckmann watching 2 Israeli settlers be killed and wanting revenge. Then every single person Ellie kills is shown to be actually decent people with hopes and dreams (because they are IDF stand-ins) and you feel like it's saying killing people is bad, then half way through you switch to Abbie and the game suddenly shifts to "Hell Yeah, Kill all them backwards brown people" style with none of the people Abby kills being shown as having been good people. The gameplay is identical between the two parts, but player is scolded for killing people in the first part and then celebrated for killing people in the 2nd part. Why? Because Ellie is killing IDF stand-ins who are human, and Abby is killing Palestinian stand-ins which is "unfortunate but necessary".
9- The story makes no sense if you don't know it's about Israel-Palestine conflict. Why are these two groups fighting over land in Seattle when humanity has gone near extinct, there's plenty of land everywhere, and neither of them have any meaningful connection to Seattle? Because it has nothing to do with Seattle, it's about Palestine. Why are the Seraphites using skyscrapers to "get around" WLF as if WLF is a state presence when they are supposedly another post apocalyptic faction with roughly the same strength? Because it's actually about Palestine. The story is completely and utterly nonsensical otherwise.
This game is basically "Birth of a Nation" for videogames. It's there to justify ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians by dehumanizing them. Serves no other purpose.