Of the IT Cosmetics cc cream I used to use "fair". The brand has replaced this tone for new tones, including "fair porcelain", "fair ivory" etc.

What new tone would match the old tone "fair"?

I’m struggling to find one that isn’t too vibrant. Light spring season friendly if possible :) TIA x

Hey everyone!

A Sephora has FINALLY opened up near me and I'm going to go tomorrow. I really love the TV Show Bridgerton and saw that for all seasons, so far, they've mostly used Pat McGrath blushes and highlighters.

I am pale with a cool/pink undertone.

Which shade of PM blush would look best? I am leaning towards the Divine Rose shade.

15W is a perfect match for my face but this concealer won't last more than 2 hours on me no matter what I do: primers, powder, setting spray etc. Has anyone found a similar shade in other concealers? My skin type is combination and other concealers don't usually wear off that quick.

Wondering if anyone else here is a performing artist and deals with this? My costumer and lighting designer think I look a little too ghostly. Are we wearing foundation a shade darker than our natural skin tone? Are we going hog wild with the blush? Looking for any tips, tricks or ideas here. I’ve always had a very difficult time getting the right shades to make contouring work.

(For reference: I normally wear Givenchy Prisme Libre Skincare Glow in C105, but I wanted something a little fuller-coverage and less shiny underneath lights. So I went back to my previous foundation, Shiseido Synchro Skin in 110 Alabaster, which now I’m worried might be TOO light.)

I recently picked up the shade praline (a tad bit too brown/dark for me) but I totally forgot how good these were. They feel exactly like the lip butter balms like Rhode and Summers Friday. So just out of curiosity what are your favorite shades? I’m a neutral olive.

Hi all! I recently picked up a sample of the Patrick Ta foundation from Sephora and I am /loving/ it. I have normal skin, sometimes more dry. I have a perfect match in shade 3 and it didn't break apart on my skin at all, I even took a nap as a side sleeper and didn't see any budge. I used it with hydrogrip primer and I only set under my eyes very lightly. (One forewarning: I don't sweat much. I heard people who sweat more or get oily find that it breaks over time). I was previously using Haus labs and it was a tiny bit yellow and drying on me, plus I felt like it would make my fine lines stand out later in the day. I'm loving this foundation formula so much, but I wish it had a tiny bit more coverage in some areas. Armani luminous silk doesn't color match me and I feel like this had a similar wear duration. I'm gonna splurge on this product. What concealers would you recommend using with this formula? I really don't want to ruin the beautiful finish of it 😅

With RDF Intuition and Weeping Lilac for reference/constrast. L to R: Inuition, Hornet, Weeping Lilac, under bright white light. By request for u/SerenaTinyDancer. 💜

I recently splurged on getting this blush as a pale girlie, because I thought it would look stunning on!

Imagine my surprise when I go to put it on my cheeks, and…. It’s a perfect shade match to my skin somehow. Blended perfectly to match my skin tone, no indication it’s a blush at all.

I just thought this group of all people would get a kick out of this. Back to Sephora she goes!

Already tried using a concealer and color corrector combo but it didn’t quite cover it up as well as I desired. I found this suggested online just had some questions

Hi all! I've searched powdered contours in here to no avail. Do you guys have any suggestions for a powder similar to this? It's the only shade that looks decent on me as a contour shade. Everything I've tried that seemed cool toned and light online, winded up being too stark on me, or too warm. Any help would be appreciated. I'd prefer if it wasn't TOO pigmented, to build up, but it's not a deal breaker. I'd keep buying the ELF product but it's been discontinued 😭 thanks in advance

(This is an updated post from four months ago with a very long list of cool and neutral lip color products.)

I have very fair skin with cool undertones & finding cool-toned lipsticks that don't turn me yellow has been a PIA for me for 35+ years... mainly because most cosmetic companies won't list the undertones, tubes usually don't portray the actual color, &/or testers aren't available. Maybe so we'll buy shades that won't work then go back and try again? Charlotte Tilbury's original Pillow Talk lipstick was my breaking point because it is not a neutral. It just isn't a lip color that everyone can wear.

The following are lip color products that I've seen recommended here or mentioned in articles as specifically have cool or neutral undertones. I have not tried or swatched 90% of them, so think of this list as a starting point. The retailers listed are mainly just the sites I found them on fastest. The list is based on prices $ to $$$$.

Please comment if you know of any that are listed that aren't cool or truly neutral or if any have been reformulated in warmer tones. Any new shade recommendations would also be helpful for everyone. Thanks! 💄 💋

Note- I've seen a lot of recommendations for MAC's Syrup (love it) & Mehr lipsticks, so I've also listed potential dupes for them at the bottom of the list. FWIW, Google has led me to more than a few possible dupes for many of the products listed simply by searching for a brand and specific shade.

• Wet n Wild Silk Finish Lipstick- Blind Date ($1)

• Wet n Wild Lipstick Matte- Stoplight Red ($2.50)

• Elf Love Triangle Lip Filler Liner- Mauve ($4)

• NYX Slim Lip Pencil- Nude Beige ($5)

• NYX Suede Matte Lipliner- Whipped Caviar ($5)

• Maybelline Color Sensational Lipstick- Pink & Proper, Pink Sand, Pink Wink ($5.50)

• NYX Butter Gloss Lip Gloss- Angel Food Cake, Eclair, Marshmallow, Merengue ($6)

• Colourpop Long-Lasting Lippie Pencil- Oh Snap, Shot Clock ($7)

• Milani Color Statement Lipstick- Naked ($7)

• Colourpop Lippie Stix- Cami ($8)

• NYX Line Loud Longwear Lip Liner- Fierce Flirt ($8)

• Maybelline Color Sensational Shaping Lip Liner- Gone Greige ($8.50)

• Unleashia Non-Sticky Dazzle Tint- Glow Day ($9 Amazon)

• Maybelline Super Stay Matte Ink Liquid- Pioneer ($10)

• NYX Lip XXL Long-Lasting Matte Liquid Lipstick- Flaunt It ($10)

• Peripera Ink the Velvet Lip Tint- 017 Rosy Nude ($10 Amazon)

• Maybelline Super Stay Ink Crayon Lipstick- Keep It Fun ($11)

• Revlon Super Lustrous Lipstick- Cherry Blossom, Gentleman Prefer Pink, On the Mauve, Sassy Mauve, Silver Rose, Wine With Everything (Pearl) ($11)

• Revlon Super Lustrous Lipstick Luscious Mattes Candy Addict, Primrose, Wild Thoughts ($11)

• Flower Beauty Bitten Lip Stains- Play, Sass ($12)

• Revlon Cool Stay Suede Ink Lipstick- Gut Instinct ($12)

• Rom&nd Juicy Lasting Tint- Bare Grape, Bare Vine Tint, Bare Berry Smoothie, Bare Grape, Bare Vine Tint ($12.50 Amazon)

• Rom&nd Dew-Ful Water Tint- Lilac Cream ($13.50 Amazon)

• Maybelline Super Stay Vinyl Ink Liquid Lipstick- Cheeky, Coy, Edgy ($13)

• Juvia's Place Nubian Earth Lip Gloss- Nubian Nude ($14 Ulta)

• MAC MACximal Silky Matte Lipstick Mini- Mehr, Rebel, Ruby Woo ($16 Ulta)

• Tower 28 JuiceBalm Vegan Tinted Lip Balm- Drink, Shake Juice ($16 Sephora)

• r.e.m. beauty On Your Collar Matte Lipstick- Drive-In Movie ($19 Ulta)

• Glossier Generation G Sheer Matte Lipstick- Like ($20 Sephora)

• Glossier Ultralip High Shine Lipstick- Vesper ($20 Sephora)

• Rare Beauty Soft Pinch Tinted Lip Oil- Happy, Hope, Wonder ($20 Sephora)

• Rare Beauty Stay Vulnerable Glossy Lip Balm- Nearly Mauve ($20 Sephora)

• Rare Beauty Lip Souffle Matte Cream Lipstick- Confident, Motivate ($20 Sephora)

• Tower 28 BeachPlease Lip+Cheek Cream Blush- Party Hour ($20 Sephora)

• Fenty Gloss Bomb Universal Lip Luminizer- $weetmouth ($21 Sephora)

• Fenty Gloss Bomb Cream Color Drip Lip Cream- Mauve Wive ($22 Ulta)

• Clinique Chubby Stick Moisturizing Lip Colour Balm- Fuller Fig, Super Strawberry ($23 Ulta)

• MAC Lipstick Cream- Creme Cup, Faux, Peach Blossom, Snob ($23 Ulta)

• Stila Stay All Day Long Wear Liquid Lipstick- Sheer Patina ($24 Ulta)

• MAC Lip Liner Pencil- Soar ($25)

• MAC MACximal Silky Matte Lipstick- D for Danger, Mehr, Rebel, Ruby Woo, Russian Red, Soar, Twig Twist, You Wouldn't Get It ($25 Ulta)

• Clinique Almost Lipstick- Black Honey ($25 Ulta)

• Fenty Slip Shine Sheer Shiny Lipstick- Vamps Who Brunch ($26 Fenty)

• Ilia Balmy Gloss Tinted Lip Oil- Linger, Maybe Violet ($26 Ulta)

• MAC Powder Kiss Lipstick- A Little Tamed, Werk Werk Werk ($26 Ulta)

• MAC Lustreglass Sheer-Shine Lipstick- Syrup, Mehr ($26 Ulta)

• Clinique Pop Longwear Lipstick- Love Pop ($26)

• Nars Lipstick- Schiap ($26 Sephora)

• Clinique Lipstick Shaping Lip Colour- Raspberry Glace, A Different Grape ($28 Ulta)

• Lawless Satin Cream Lipstick- Wedding Day ($28 Sephora)

• Mac Powder Kiss Velvet Blur Slim Matte Lipstick- Wild Rebel ($28 Ulta)

• Makeup By Mario UltraSuede Lipstick- Erin ($28 Sephora)

• Nars Afterglow Lip Balm- Fast Lane ($28 Ulta)

• Too Faced Lip Injection Hydrating Lip Gloss- Glossy & Bossy ($28 Sephora)

• Pat McGrath Satin Allure Lipstique- Nude Romantique 2 (different from original on Sephora) ($30 Ulta)

• Bobbi Brown Crushed Lip Color Moisturizing Lipstick- Babe, Blue Raspberry, Blush, Lilac ($33 Sephora)

• Bobbi Brown Crush Oil-Infused Lip Gloss- Rock & Red ($33 Ulta)

• MAC Locked Kiss Ink Lipstick- Upgraded ($33 Ulta)

• Charlotte Tilbury Hot Lips Lipstick-Liv It Up ($35 Ulta)

• Nars Powermatte Lipstick- American Woman ($34 Sephora)

• Pat McGrath Liquilust Matte Lipstick- Elson 4 ($34)

• Charlotte Tilbury Matte Revolution Lipstick- Love Liberty ($35 Ulta)

• Charlotte Tilbury KISSING Lipstick- Candy Chic, Red Carpet Pink ($35 Ulta)

• Lancôme L'Absolu Rouge Creme Lipstick- Blush Caresse ($35 Ulta)

• Tom Ford Lip Color Lipstick- Casablanca ($59 Sephora)

• Potential Dupes for MAC Mehr Silky Matte Lipstick

• NYX Suede Matte Lip Liner Velvet Soft Lip Pencil- Whipped Caviar ($5 Ulta)

• Colourpop Lippie Stix- Cami ($8 Ulta)

• Potential Dupes for MAC Syrup Sheer-shine Lipstick

• Milani Color Statement Lipstick- Naked ($7 Walgreens)

• NYX Lip Lingerie XXL Long-Lasting Matte Liquid Lipstick- Flaunt It ($10 Ulta)

• Revlon Super Lustrous Lipstick- Sassy Mauve ($10.50 Ulta)

• Maybelline Super Stay Ink Crayon Lipstick- Keep It Fun ($11 Ulta)

Hello pale folks. So I have been on the hunt for a matte foundation that is similar to Maybelline Fit Me 102. I was a devout user of this product as it was a great match for me until I started experiencing some textural changes (thank you mid-20s) I'm looking for something that's a little more natural in terms of finish and not quite as chalky. I don't really go for foundations marketed as dewy as they emphasize texture. I use an SPF so dewy foundations turn me into an oil slick, usually. Any advice is greatly appreciated!

NYX lift and snatch grey black on top NYX lift and snatch ash brown in the middle Urban decay brow blade in taupe on the bottom

Here's an updated mega-list of cool-toned blushes that have been recommended here in the last year or so, in order of price. 😚

It's a given, but when shopping Amazon please verify the seller to avoid counterfeits. YMMV, but I personally feel safer when I see Amazon, the official brand, or a known retailer as doing the shipping.

• Missha- Cotton Blusher- Lavender Perfume ($4 YesStyle)
• The Saem- Single- Orchid Rumor ($4 YesStyle)
• Essence- Believing ($4 Ulta)
• Essence- Baked Blush- Goldy Cassis ($6 Ulta)
• Covergirl- Cheekers- Natural Rose, Plum Plush, True Plum ($6 CVS)
• Moira- I Miss You, I Cherish You ($7 Amazon)
• Maybelline- Cheek Heat Gel- Berry Flame, Pink Scorch, Nude Burn ($6 Amazon)
• Nature Republic- Baked- Peony Purple ($9 YesStyle)
• Canmake- Cream Cheek- Pale Lilac ($10 YesStyle
• Colourpop- Blush Stix- Cool It ($10 Ulta)
• Etude- Lovely Cookie- Lavender Lemon Macaron ($10 Amazon)
• Moira- Berry Flirty Blush Duo ($10 Amazon)
• Rom&nd- Better Than Cheek- Blueberry Chip, Odi Milk ($10 Amazon)
• The Saem- Jelly Blusher- Milky Mauve ($10 Amazon)
• Glint- Baked- Balletcore Pink, Pale Lilac ($11 YesStyle)
• About Tone- Fluffy Wear- Mood Lavender ($12 Amazon)
• Colourpop- Powder- Prairie Air ($12 Ulta)
• Colourpop- Hot 2 Touch- Flirt ($12 Colourpop)
• Flower Beauty- Flower Pots- Sweet Pea, Wildrose ($12 Ulta)
• Flower Beauty- Gel Crush- Blackberry Crush, Strawberry Crush ($12 Ulta)
• Flower Beauty- Color Drops- Bubbly, Cheeky ($12 Ulta)
• Give Me Glow- Dream Blush- Legally Pink, Mauvelous, Pink Freak, There Goes Rose ($13 Give Me Glow)
• L'oreal- Baby Blossom ($13 Ulta)
• Kiko Milano- Stick #4 Hot Pink ($14 Ulta)
• Lilybyred- Cheek Balm- Innocent Pink, Cheeky Lavender ($14 Amazon)
• Rare Beauty- Liquid Mini- Encourage, Happy ($14 Ulta)
• Tony Moly- Shocking Spin-Off- Pop Mauve ($14 YesStyle)
• Phytosurgence- Blush Balm- Condensate, Fervor ($21CA $15US Phytosurgence)
• Bourjois- Rose Frisson ($16 Amazon)
• about-face- Balm- Score ($18 Ulta)
• Benefit- Mini- Dandelion ($18 Ulta)
• Juvia's Place- Blushed Liquid- Blush Lily ($18 Ulta)
• Juvia's Place- Duo Vol 4 ($18)
• Honest Beauty- Creme Cheek- Lush Lilac ($19 Target)
• Dasique- Blending Mood- #02 Cool Blending, #05 Violet Knit, #06 Berry Smoothie ($20 Amazon)
• I’m Meme- Afternoon Tea Blush Palettes- Fruits Flavor, Blossom Tea ($20 Amazon)
• Kylie Cosmetics- Powder- Winter Kissed ($20 Ulta)
• r.e.m. beauty- Hypernova Satin Matte- Pinking of U ($20 Ulta)
• Tower 28- BeachPlease- Party Hour, Dream Hour ($20 Sephora)
• Glossier- Cloud Paint- Wisp ($22 Sephora & Glossier)
• Persona- Super Blush- Bubble, Jam ($22 Ulta)
• Buxom- Havana ($23 Ulta)
• Lorac- Color Source- Ultraviolet ($23 Ulta)
• Rare Beauty- Soft Pinch Liquid- Believe, Encourage, Happy, Grace ($23 Sephora)
• Milk- Blush Stick- Rally ($24 Sephora)
• 3ce- Mono Pink, Mean Pink ($25 Amazon)
• Saie- Dew Blush- Baby, Chilly ($25 Sephora)
• Addiction Tokyo- Orchid Dusk, Pink Bliss ($26 Addiction Tokyo)
• Fenty- Cheeks Out- Cream Cool Berry, Drama Cla$$ ($26 Ulta)
• Flower Knows- Swan Ballet Series- Silky Ribbon ($26 Flower Knows & Urban Outfitters)
• Persona- Dreamstick- Bubble ($26 Ulta)
• Clinique- Pansy Pop, Pink Pop ($29 Ulta)
• Hourglass- Mood Exposure Mini ($29 Sephora)
• Kosas- Blush is Life- Euphoria ($29 Sephora)
• Lawless- Make Me Blush- Daisy Pink, Vintage Love ($29 Sephora)
• MAC- Powder- Blushberry ($29 Ulta)
• Shiseido- Inner Glow Powder- Aura Pink ($29 Saks Fifth Avenue)
• Too Faced- Cloud Crushed- Candy Clouds ($29 Ulta)
• Em Cosmetics- So Soft Chiffon, Little Lilac ($30 Em Cosmetics)
• MAKE- Heat Stroke Gel- Stimulated ($30 Amazon)
• Merit- Cream Blush- Cheeky, Stockholm ($30 Sephora)
• Tarte- Exposed ($30 Ulta)
• VDL- Cheekstain- Favorite Lavender, Mauve Haze ($30 Amazon)
• Ere Perez- Carrot Color Pot- Hey ($31 Ulta)
• Haus Labs- Color Fuse Powder- Dragon Fruit Daze ($32 Sephora)
• Nars- Afterglow Liquid- Behave, Wanderlust ($32 Ulta)
• Nars- Powder- Behave, Thrill ($32 Ulta)
• Rose Inc- Camellia ($32 Sephora)
• ** MAC**- Glow Play- Totally Synced ($33 MAC)
• Bobbi Brown- Pale Pink ($36 Sephora)
• Laura Mercier- Strawberry ($36 Ulta)
• Patrick Ta- Blush Duo- She's Giving, She's a Doll, She's Wanted, Just Enough ($38 Sephora)
• Pat McGrath- Divine Powder- Divine Rose, Fleurtatious ($39 Sephora)
• Dior- Rosy Glow- Pink, Berry ($40 Sephora)
• Kevyn Aucoin- Neo-Blush Grapevine ($40 Bloomingdales)
• Givenchy- Prime Libre Loose Powder- Mousseline Lilas ($45 Sephora)
• Manasi 7- All Over Colour- Heliotrope ($45 Inspire Beauty)
• Hourglass- Ethereal Glow, Mood Exposure ($46 Nordstrom)
• Westman Atelier- Baby Cheeks Stick- Poppet ($48 Sephora)
• Gucci- True Pink ($49 Sephora)
• Chanel- Rose Ecrin, Rose Ruban ($50 Nordstrom)

I received some Sephora gift cards for my birthday and I want to get something fun and new, but I'm a soft summer (pale/muted/cool - fair skin, ash brown hair, green eyes) and I feel like I have all the muted/cool items available for us from Sephora in Canada. I would love a cool greyish purple cream eyeshadow to replace the Revlon one I'm using (which is a good shade but the formula isn't great). But the ones I'm looking at are around $50 ?? I'm also interested in Merit Social but I'm worried it'll pull too pink on me.

I would love a cream blush or new highlighter also. Please help!

Hi guys! I'm hoping someone (a kind person 😭) might be able to help me with my face (and sorry my skin looks ropey above). For years I've been unable to get a foundation that's exactly the right shade. I have pale skin which I've been told has a lot of yellowness to it, but I got told I have rosacea so tbh I can't tell. The closest I've found as been the Ordinary 1.0 NS (which I think has silvery undertones, and is very sheer so it's easy to work with). I've spent all me pennies on a Haus Labs foundation in Fair Neutral but I look ill lol. I bought the NARS light reflecting foundation in Vienna, but it comes out too pink. Does anyone know what I should be doing? I don't know whether I need to buy a pigment separately and mix it, or..

Thank you!

Hi everyone! I currently use the shade taupe but it pulls too warm still, I have light muted ash brown hair naturally. My browns are cool toned.

I’m hoping I can get a comparison of some of these colors: gray, ash brown, and taupe.

Also if you have any other brow pen (not pencil) recs that are true cool, ashy shades I’d love to hear!

TIA 😊

Muted, cool, olive-leaning skin in the NW10-NW15 range in indirect window light.

All Revlon Super Lustrous Creme lipsticks with one pop of Milani lip oil. Today is the first crisp day we’ve had, and I am feeling like bringing out all of these beauties. The Milani arrived yesterday, and I really like it ✨💄

Oslo is too pink and Siberia is too yellow, with Mont Blanc then being too dark. But I love the formula and haven't found anything comparable. The closest I've found thus far is Shiseido SSRL (110), but I was interested to hear other recommendations.

I've posted similar discussions on a few other beauty adjacent subs and thought it would be fun + interesting to have an pale MUA specific thread here too :)

Hello I'm looking for swatches of the bperfect chroma luminous foundation in n1 and the hnb cosmetics luminous soft airbrush foundation in lf1n