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We define performance enhancing substances as any of the following:

  • Anabolic Steroids

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DHB

Anyone here have experience with DHB? What’s it like? How much did you run?

2 Comments
2024/11/22
20:44 UTC

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Acid reflux

Running 500mg of test a week and currently the acid reflux is really becoming a pain. There’s only so many rennies I can take in a day. I just had a glass of mulled wine, Friday night treat and oh my goodness its set it off bad 😂

What has worked for other people curb this? Diet, supplements, meds etc?

8 Comments
2024/11/22
19:52 UTC

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Anavar 20-30mg

M20 113KG/247lbs 5ft9.

I take anavar 20mg and then half way through a 7 week cycle up to 30mg.

Why did I go from 105kg to 114kg? I did a full body comp scan and my muscle mass increased massively while my fat stayed pretty much the exact same.

What I wonder, for some reason after stopping anavar from the day it's stopped to indefinitely afterwards, I don't get no low test crash and feel totally fine with added benefits yet experience massive gains/strength on just 20mg?

29 Comments
2024/11/22
15:18 UTC

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Severe injury rebound

Hello friends,

A short story:

4 months ago I failed a 200lbs snatch. This was a relatively routine lift for me, things just went a bit pear shaped on the day. I ended up dislocating my shoulder badly and damaging my brachial plexus severely (the nerve system that goes down one's arm). This resulted in total left arm paralysis for ~2 months.

Slowly but surely I've regained movement, but as you might expect, I've lost a lot of muscle, and my left side is now extremely weak. I have gone from 205lbs to 178lbs (at 6'3").

I'm now trying to figure out what I should consider running to bounce back. Whilst I am natty so far, I was in pretty good shape before (this year's numbers were bench 285, squat 400, DL 505, 30 y/o). I took oral BPC arg for 60 days as I could not inject subQ with one hand. Now that it's mostly just muscle gain required, I am considering something like:

  • 160mg/wk test e
  • 2 iu hgh (or maybe just igf-1?)

for approx 8-16 weeks, but of course, this is where I submit to the experts for guidance.

The goal isn't to get absolutely yolked, just to build back some muscle asap, safely. Chiefest concern would be strengthening muscles and not tendons, risking further injury.

Any advice, folks?

4 Comments
2024/11/22
14:51 UTC

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How much of anavar strength gains do you keep?

I’ll be stopping my 20 week test (500 mg/ week test c) + 8 week anavar (40mg/ day) cycle in 2 weeks.

Test didn’t do much for my strength but ever since I started anavar my front squat jumped from 140 to 180 kgs (in 6 weeks!).

How much of your anavar strength gains do you keep while on cruise?

(I really hope they didn’t give me winny as my joints feel stiff all the time)

21 Comments
2024/11/22
10:27 UTC

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Primo cycle

I've been on a 24-week cycle of Primo (250mg/week) and Testosterone Enanthate (250mg/week). I'm now considering transitioning to Masteron for the next six weeks before starting PCT. However, I'm concerned that the cycle duration might already be too long and wonder if it would be better to do a 21-day PCT before introducing Masteron. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

5 Comments
2024/11/22
04:49 UTC

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Interesting study for adex

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19820017/

To sum it up older men took 1mg adex daily for a year and it seemed to not cause drastic bone density issues. This was always my main concern with the use of AI or primo as estrogen is the main hormone that regulates bone homeostasis. I have seen a lot of comments on forums and here when someone says they are taking 2-3mg a week of adex that it’s not safe and to lower their dose of test to reduce adex weekly usage dose. I guess for 5-6 month cycles it’s probably not something worry about but certainly should still try to find a dosage that doesn’t crash e2 as bone density is not the only side effect but this might come as a relief to those who are not aware and concerned about taking too much adex for too long.

8 Comments
2024/11/22
04:39 UTC

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Question about WADA and other drug testing governing bodies

I am a 18 approaching 19 year old boxer who has serious plans of turning professional in five years time.

Preface I am aware the sport is full of people on PED’s, so to uncomplicate matters please do not discuss ethical or moral discourse in this post or how taking at a young age will affect me.

Question

My concern is that if I were to take AAS now and need TRT for life, would this affect my ability to compete in the future under WADA testing ?

Becasue currently you can get away with sports TRT levels as long as you remain under the test to epitest ratio.

But my worry is in five years time if they start implementing carbon isotope ratio testing and tests for LH and FSH ?

I know that with the current science, CIR testing is not very conclusive and can even be affected by diet etc.

But if they were to start using a biological passport and testing for LH and FSH, they would definitely know if you were being suppressed by exogenous testosterone.

Do you think this is a possibility in five years time ?

0 Comments
2024/11/22
04:03 UTC

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Cruise and Anavar

What has everyone’s experience been for those who have added anavar while on a cruise? I’m cruising at 200T right now but thinking about adding can for a month or two before I start my blast with primo.

34 Comments
2024/11/22
02:42 UTC

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Suicide inhibition (primo) vs dbol. If you crush E2 with Primo can dbol fix? If too heavy conversion w dbol can Primo fix? What has a stronger effect?

I meant to say suicide inhibition vs methyl estradiol

24 Comments
2024/11/22
00:00 UTC

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Considering Enclomiphene for Mood, Energy, and Sleep Before Starting Testo

I'm 33 years old and thinking about trying enclomiphene as an alternative before committing to a low dose testosterone cycle. For the next six months, I'll be traveling a lot, so starting TRT isn’t practical right now. My primary goals are to improve mood, energy, and sleep quality, not so much muscle gains.

Currently, I’m on finasteride and Dermacrine, and I also use MK-677. Does enclomiphene align with my goals guys? Thanks a lot!

20 Comments
2024/11/21
23:52 UTC

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What are people’s injection frequencies with big cycles ?

I’m currently on 1.4g of gear, injecting 2.8mL 3 times a week MWF. And I’m already thinking this is too much but with aspirations of competing in the near future, I know the amount of oil I will have to inject will increase. So I was just wondering for people who have done 2-2.5 grams of gear a week, what was your injection schedule like ? Daily pins ? 3 times a week ? 2 times a week? And how would You split the injections between the muscles, would You do half in 1 shoulder and then the other half in another shoulder, or like half in the left VG then the other half in the right VG, etc?

75 Comments
2024/11/21
23:16 UTC

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Adding oral to TRT

M44, 86 kg, 175 cm, 15-20 % BF

Been on TRT for the last 7 years. Recently added Primo to my TRT.

Currently doing 125 mg Test E and 50 mg Primo.

I want to increase my strength but I'm torn between Dbol and Tbol as a preworkout supplement.

Which one should I go for, or is there another compound entirely I should add for strength gains.

52 Comments
2024/11/21
21:30 UTC

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[Weekly] Quick Question Thread

Please use this thread to discuss whatever questions you may have that do not deserve their own post.

2 Comments
2024/11/21
19:00 UTC

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Question about pip that has me limping

I just started npp 50mg M W F and 100mg masteron M W F. I pull them both in one syringe which equals 1ml (npp is 100mg and mast is 200mg a ml). My quads are so sore I can barely walk, feels like I got muay Thai kicked in both my quads. I do my 250mg test on Monday and Thursday which has never caused anything like this. Do I need to pin each one separate or what can I do? I couldn't find anything on npp pip or mast pip, is this normal and should I try glutes?

36 Comments
2024/11/21
17:43 UTC

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Anyone else give themselves fake side effects?

I’m currently not even on cycle , finished PCT and have bloods here after thanksgiving . My last cycle was test and a little primo. I cut down rather nice but gained it back on a bulk. I keep overthinking any type of chest soreness and think my heart’s going to explode or that my bloods are gonna be awful or if I don’t get horny that I ruined my dick or something. Anyone else have horrible anxiety regarding side effects that aren’t actually there? Or am I the only one lol.

16 Comments
2024/11/21
17:30 UTC

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Heavy aromatizer. Should I try letrozole?

I need .5 mg a week of anastrozole on 140 mg test weekly. Currently on my first cycle 400 mg test a week and 12.5 mg aromasin every 3.5 days. 6 weeks in. I just got bloods done and haven’t got them back. The thing is my nips get sore again literally within 48 hours after taking my aromasin. Should I consider letrozole? I’m not even on that high a dose of test.

19 Comments
2024/11/21
17:22 UTC

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Insane heart rate after Sex

Is this normal or am I just literally out of shape cardiovascular-wise?

context: I do no cardio other than knocking boots and walking around a lil at my retail job. I cruise at 300mg/week.

37 Comments
2024/11/21
17:00 UTC

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Masteron and Anavar

I'm on a test e/mast/var cycle and I feel absolutely horrendous, feel like my E2 is low and did tests and yes the ratio for test to e isn't good, test is around 3000 while E2 is around 25. But I have another question, is it possible running to dhts is causing more libido issues? Reason I'm asking is because when I accidentally skipped a mast dose for a week, I suddenly felt better like way way better, libido went up in around a week while I was still on the var and test.

I'm 164cm 69kg 14% bf test/mast/var is 250/100/50, I take HCG as well 500 IU 3x/week

10 Comments
2024/11/21
15:57 UTC

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Anavar & Enclomiphene experience

Hey all,

Wanted to report my bloodwork results using Anavar and Enclomiphene. I'm not recommending that anyone does this. I was using Anavar and BPC-157 to help to recover a tendon tear and added Enclomiphene to tackle the suppression. I couldn't find much bloodwork so figured I'd post. I can post an update for 6 weeks after if anyone is interested.

Was bulking and went from ~85 kg - 90 kg, probably mostly water with a bit of fat and muscle. Pumps were good, there was a mild improvement to mood and my tendons recovered well.

Dosages:

  • Anavar 20mg ED sublingual
  • Enclomiphene 12.5mg EOD
  • Accutane 20mg ED
  • Support: NAC 1000mg, Citrus Bergamot 1000mg, Omega 3/6/9 blend 4000mg
MarkerBeforeDuring (week 7)Healthy Range
ALT41.4 IU/L29 IU/L<41 IU/L
Albumin49.5 g/L48 g/L35-50 g/L
ALP86 IU/L91 IU/L30-130 IU/L
Gamma GT22.7 IU/L14 IU/L<60 IU/L
FSH1.4 IU/L1.6 IU/L1.5 - 12.4 IU/L
LH6.9 IU/L7.4 IU/L1.7 - 8.6 IU/L
Free test0.411 nmol/L0.51 nmol/L0.2 - 0.62 nmol/L
Total test26.2 nmol/L16.9 nmol/L8.6 - 29 nmol/L
Oestradiol78.2 pmol/L128 pmol/L41 - 159 pmol/L
Prolactin319 IU/L130 mU/L86 - 324 mU/L
SHBG52.1 nmol/L10.6 nmol/L16.5 - 55.9 nmol/L
HbA1c37.04 mmol/mol33 mmol/mol20 - 42 mmol/mol
HDL1.59 mmol/L0.86 mmol/L>0.91 mmol/L
LDL2.34 mmol/L2.54 mmol/L<3 mmol/L
Total Cholesterol4.52 mmol/L3.8 mmol/L<5 mmol/L
HDL ratio2.844.40-6
Triglycerides0.56 mmol/L0.78 mmol/L0.84 - 1.94 mmol/L
TSH2.33 mIU/L1.77 mIU/L0.27 - 4.2 mIU/L
Thryoxine (FT4)19.5 pmol/L23.5 pmol/L12 - 22 pmol/L

I'd like to have measured kidney health as well. There aren't studies that show that Anavar is significantly nephrotoxic. It's excreted as-is by the kidneys, but that is still in theory extra load on the kidneys. Coupled with a high protein diet, NSAIDs and dehydration/hypertension, I can see how it could cause problems. I made sure to avoid those, but I'll check my markers (cystatin-C) for the follow-up. BP stayed pretty level at about 110/60.

11 Comments
2024/11/21
14:19 UTC

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Can i inject this?

Recently bought 10mg of ipamorelin and a 10ml container of bac water (NaCl). Stupid enough to put it in a nasal spray container. Can i screw it open and inject it? Or is this stupid asf?

7 Comments
2024/11/21
10:54 UTC

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Best way to take clenbuterol and ketotifen

Hi there, so clenbuterol wiki recommends to take ketotifen alongside clen every 2 weeks for 5-7 days to restore receptor sensitivity. But is this protocol really enough to do it? Looking for experience from someone who tried it, or any other opinion is valid.

Wouldn't it be better to reach a desire dosage and then take ketotifen everyday for the duration of the cycle?

8 Comments
2024/11/21
09:41 UTC

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ECG

Anyone have experience with sn ECG? and if so, are the doctors able to see that you use some sort of anabolics based on it? Have to do an ECG for some medication and i Wonder if the anabolics will mess it up. Thanks.

3 Comments
2024/11/21
08:51 UTC

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Could I get away with less weekly volume on gear? And would that help my joints?

I have shoulder problems. Left AC joint, and now the right AC joint too.

Now I workout 5 times a week - shoulder, back, chest, back, legs

I already work at pretty high rep range. I suppose there's still some room here, but I'm not trying to go much higher then 15 reps...

If I was to jump on the righteous path, would I be able to gain (during bulks) on 3 days a week? How about cutting on that volume ?

40 Comments
2024/11/21
07:46 UTC

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HCG for stiffer Stick

Basically since I started blasting/cruising, I haven’t been able to get my member to 100% it goes up but not as hard or not as long. (I had no problems on trt the first month or so, then it started fading)

Would incorporating HCG fix my issue? (Appreciate the advice in advance)

2 Comments
2024/11/21
07:21 UTC

13

Masteron vs Primo for BEARD

Which would you choose if you wanted to finish up a patchy beard? Running 400mg test + one of these in a few months give me some advice!

35 Comments
2024/11/21
06:04 UTC

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Advice: Test + Primo + Tbol (or var) + GH

41 male. 6’1. 220lbs. 13% body fat.

Planning a light 20-week cycle for a “clean bulk.” I’m a highly active 40-something male who likes to run a light cycle once or twice every year.

Here is what I’m thinking:

1.) 250 test + 250 primo - 20 weeks

2.) Tbol 25mg - 6-8 weeks

3.) (Maybe) Pharma Var 25mg - 6-7 weeks (any longer and my lipids really go to hell)

4.) GH 3IU - Been on for a few months already and figure I’ll do another 20 weeks and then stop for a while.

5.) Daily 500 mg injectible l-carnitine (just an FYI)

All that said, was thinking of doing a Tbol kickstart the first 8 weeks as I tend to feel it pretty quickly, but it would also give the primo enough time to saturate.

However, I usually only hear about people finishing their cycles with orals. Does that have to do with lipids taking a hit or liver toxicity, so they save it till the end? Or is that usually only when cutting to shave off the remaining fluff?

The bigger questions:

What would be the smarter course of action re: orals beginning or end of cycle? I know they usually say one oral at a time, but would two orals at a total 50mg be a bad idea? (Both the pharma var and Tbol do well at just 25mgs)

Any anecdotes, advice etc is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

16 Comments
2024/11/21
04:07 UTC

0

Blood work after increasing test dosage.

How soon should I do blood work after increasing test to see if it's bunk or not?

8 Comments
2024/11/21
03:53 UTC

2

TRT Dose

I started TRT not too long ago and it's improved everything. I still don't feel like I've bounced back from the sluggishness I was feeling before. My current dose is 200mg of Test C a week.

I've seen others talk about doing what they consider a "blast" of 300 mg for X number of weeks. My question is for the longer term users or those on TRT. Is there an issue going to a permanent higher dose if everything checks out with my doctor? I know the higher the dose the increases the chance of sides. Just wondering if anyone has been on 300 mg long term and what your experience has been with that.

For reference: 36 yo 5'9 205 lbs

22 Comments
2024/11/21
01:36 UTC

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Why PEDs are demonised and not accepted by society?

Whole human history we were searching for stuff that enchace us, being it coca leaves, kava, ma Huang, mushrooms, special herbs or whatever. They gave us better life experience and insights. We used them in spiritual sense as well.

Baseball pitcher from 1880s who first took elixir from animal testicles and had a perfect score afterwards was highly appreciated by media and a public

But, when we finally made it and understood these substances up to the level that we can use their full potential we decided to ban and stigmatised them begining with early 20 century.

Why? What is wrong with us? Why are we self sabotaging us?

59 Comments
2024/11/20
23:57 UTC

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