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AAS under 25 affects on BDNF and other crucial brain areas

How would a moderate dose of say 250mg of testosterone enanthate a week pinned every day affect a 19 year old’s brain in terms of their neuroplasticity and other parts of their brain ?

I have seen many smart people who seem to still have high degrees of knowledge and expertise in different industries despite taking AAS, some from a young age ?

6 Comments
2024/12/22
19:32 UTC

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Sdrol vs halo

Currently on test/deca want to get opinions on using either injectable sdrol or halo for the last few weeks of my cycle. Used halo before I fucking love the stuff it made me feel like all other orals were pointless. Strength gains were insane and I felt like nothing besides the gym existed. Bloodwork honestly wasnt bad after 20mg for 4 weeks, the liver toxicity of halo is exaggerated imo. Never tried sdrol but after reading the compound threads it sounds like it makes u look fucking sick while also making u feel sick. Main goal is adding strength but I wouldn’t mind finishing my cycle looking like a beast. With halo strength shot up but I didn’t really gain any size. Mostly wondering about experiences with injectable sdrol. Is it as bad side effect wise as the oral version? How are the strength gains?

1 Comment
2024/12/22
18:27 UTC

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EQ vs Primo for adding to T

28M, ran several T only cycles (150mg - 500mg) + Var.

Cycles always go great. Everything dialed in. The issue I face is around month 4, i get lower back acne. I never get acne naturally so it’s either E2/Hormonal Shifts/Androgen load related. This has been the only reason i come off T completely, wait for acne to go away after 1 month, then get back on a few months after.

I’ve tried Asin mid cycle and it did knock my E2 down but i still got acne and was shifting dosages during this. Would prefer to either use EQ/Primo to control E2 for my next cycle.

My only fear with Primo is the hair loss possibility. I take Finasteride for the last 10 years and have had a few touch up hair transplants. I didn’t notice any hair loss on T only (actually made it appear thicker). Anavar maybe a slight shed but not a big deal.

Obviously primo hair loss is dose dependent, but if I run lower dose primo (150-200mg) with Fin + RU + Minoxidil, would I have a chance to avoid it? How long does Primo hair loss kick in? Yes i understand injecting straight DHT is a risk, but at this point im tired of coming off T completely and losing gains, but i need to add another compound to control E2 and mitigate back acne as that is the only side I get with T cycles

Primo has less health sides than EQ, and would produce a better cosmetic effect from what i have read. I also don’t want to donate blood and can’t since I’m on Fin technically. Don’t want to thicken my blood with EQ, or deal with the long ass half life if EQ didn’t fix potential back acne during the cycle.

Thoughts? I’d imagine this is a very common topic among guys wanting to cycle and control E2, but are prone to MPD. Thanks 🙏

19 Comments
2024/12/22
15:00 UTC

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Why does Anadrol make my skin look older?

I stopped taking it 2 weeks ago and already my skin is looking younger. No more orals now I guess

6 Comments
2024/12/22
14:08 UTC

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Heartburn side effect

Anyone have really bad heartburn due to cialis and/or Proviron? I'm getting heartburn at night ONLY, so bad that I can't sleep. Odd though, that just by sitting up, it subsides.

I'm on my 4th cycle now and have run cialis from the beginning for blood pressure and prostrate support. No issues before, so I'm sure that's not the issue.

This is my first time running deca, and I love it so far. It was recommended by someone way smarter than I am about these things to run Proviron along with deca to prevent the dreaded deca dick. Sure as hell works! But l have to wonder if the Proviron is contributing to the heartburn. I don't recall from my research that deca has heartburn as a side effect.

I've run EQ, masteron, dbol, tbol, and and anavar, all without issue.

5 Comments
2024/12/22
14:05 UTC

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What made you huge?

After multiple cycles/blasts, what was the one key thing that finally made you get huge?

I know many people that have run multiple cycles/blasts, have a solid diet, sleep and lifting routine, and they are still not that big; looking like fake nattys at best. What was missing for you, that after you figured it out, you got much bigger?

54 Comments
2024/12/22
12:18 UTC

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Friendly Reminder: Get Paid to Work Out

If you have a smart watch and health insurance in America, don't forget to sign up for your health plan's "rewards" that pay you to go to the gym. It's not a lot but if you're going 5 days a week, you might a well get some credit for it. I just got my kid's a new water bottle and a book for working out for 3 months.

Also, Blue Cross Blue Shield and Anthem have Well on Target which is a multi gym discount that allows you to get into multiple gyms for one monthly price. I pay $40/ month and have access to EOS, Gold's and Anytime which is helpful because I travel a lot for work.

You can still have access to it when you leave your job too.

24 Comments
2024/12/21
23:59 UTC

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Test / Primo / Nandrolone

Looking for anyone with experience running these together. Planning to run small amounts to keep side effects minimal. Respond very well to primo and test, but going to add in nandrolone this time around.

200 test 100 nandrolone 200 primo 750iu HCG

I’m expecting to aromatise at a higher rate with the nandrolone- so the primo is really to keep my E2 in check while gaining some further anabolism.

500 test / 300 primo puts E2 at 29… incorporating HCG 750iu per week brings my E2 to 40.

Appreciate y’all in advance!

36 Comments
2024/12/21
23:27 UTC

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Starting cycle soon - high e2

I’m starting a trt soon and contemplating primo to control naturally high e2. I’m lean currently (visible abs) so I think i just genetically aromatize more. Current levels

Total T 505 Free T 6 E2 52.

I’m assuming my trt will be about 120 a week; would 60 primo both control e2 and add some anabolism?

Thanks

11 Comments
2024/12/21
23:11 UTC

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Do steroids give everybody gyno?

I been on test e 600mg, 400mg, and 300mg and haven’t had gyno symptoms. I lately added NNP into the mix and decided to add a little adex in just to keep estrogen down a little bit. Every time I’ve used it before it always made me feel like shit but I may try .25mg 2 times a week. I’m wondering if everybody gets gyno or is it just some people with a certain gene in them. Have you had gyno? Do you control estrogen I’ve always let it be without an ai.

13 Comments
2024/12/21
22:16 UTC

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Considering first Cycle

I posted in the Testosterone subreddit and got very interesting responses….. seems like a lot of people on that subreddit don’t understand reaching your genetic potential and wanting more out of your body. I know there are plenty of stories of people who mess up their health and scree themselves up. But for every one of those stories is another dude you don’t hear about who is smart about running their cycles, very cautious, gets bloodwork often, keeps lifestyle factors in check and successfully runs testosterone for decades and uses it as a way to age gracefully.

I’m 33, testosterone sits at 889. SHBG is at 58….. other blood bio markers look great. I do not drink, am married with 3 kids (potentially want one more kid), and sleep 7-8 hours a night. I eat a very healthy diet, everything I eat is organic and I avoid all seed oils entirely. I am 220 pounds, 10% body fat, 6’0” tall, and feel like it is time to hop on testosterone and stay on TRT and sprinkle in cycles here and there. I’m not doing this for anyone other than myself. I love training, I love lifting, and I want to step on stage one day and see what my body can do.

I feel like I know what most of ya’ll are gonna say but I’d like to hear some experiences. If CBum can have a kid, I know I can as long as I stay smart and do this the right way.

13 Comments
2024/12/21
21:54 UTC

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How many of you keep cycle logs?

Still fairly new to being enhanced, do you look back on old logs or regret not keeping them?

This is how I structured my last one, hopefully next bulk will go better as I will have to count calories as instinctively eating definitely failed me when I hit around 108kg

2nd cycle 8th of July - ~25th nov (20weeks) Bulking cycle Starting weight 93.7kg/206lbs 11% bf

Anabolics Test E 1300 weekly Primo E 400 weekly Tren A 200 weekly (10wk max duration) Hgh 4iu (started week 10)

Ancillaries -AI Arimidex as needed

-Liver/kidney support Nac 600mg-1200 Tudca 500mg-1g L-Glutathione 800mg pw Astragalus root extract 500mg

-Lipid support Ezetimibe 10mg Citrus bergamot

-Pump/blood pressure Cialis 10mg Telmasartin 20-40mg if needed

-General Fish oil, magnesium, zinc, p5p, potassium, berberine, Vit D3, finasteride, minoxidil, ru58

Bulk phase Goal pack on as much lean mass as possible ideally 1-2 pounds a week

Week 1- 8 July -No sides -Weight 93.7kg

Week 2- 15 July -Weight 98kg due to water/glycogen -Blood pressure is good -Introducing 0.25 Arimidex m/w/f

Week 3- 22 July -weight 99.5kg -first high bp readings telma from 20-40mg

Week 4- 29 July -weight 100kg -tren ace added in / 100mg front load -bp good, no sides so far

Week 5 - 5 August -weight 100.5

Week 6- 12 August -Weight 101 -bp and sleep good

Week 7- 19 August -weight 100.4 -blood test results

Week 8- 26 August -weight 102kg

Week 9- 2 sept -weight 102.5

Week 10- 9 sept -weight 103.5 -feel good getting around 7 hours sleep -hgh added in 2iu working up to 4

Week 11- 16 sept -weight 105.3 -gh increased to 3iu ⁃ Michelin man look increased potassium to 400-700mg ed might need time to adjust and lose water weight

Week 12- 23 sept -Weight 107 Michelin man face continues no adema though just fatter fingers and face

Week 13- 30 sept -Weight 105.5 -dropped the tren mid last week

Week 14 - 7 oct -Weight 106 Sleep okay

Week 15 - 14 oct -weight 107 Sleep okay avg 7-8 hr no improvement from dropping tren

Week 16 - 21 oct 108.5 ⁃ still some bloating difficult to get ring off, using 400mg potassium to try mitigate retention ⁃ 7 weeks of gh so think it’s reached its peak and this water is here to stay, It isn’t negatively effecting anything though

Week 17 - 28 Oct ⁃ weight 108 ⁃ Trying 2x 2iu a day instead of 4iu at night

Week 18 - 4 Nov -weight 103.5 lost weight due to getting a stomach bug not sure if mostly water but some would be fat loss -2x gh doses definitely decreased waste weight as well going to stick to this moving forward

November 8 ended cycle early*

weight stayed at 103 just had the stomach bug then a cold so stopped it now and starting a trt 8 week cut at 250mg pw

Staring measurements 16th July:
Right arm: 38 cm Left arm: 37 cm Shoulders: 128 cm Chest: 103 cm Waist: 86 cm Hips: 94 cm Right thigh: 61.4 cm Left thigh: 61.5 cm Left calf: 44.5 cm Right calf: 44.3 cm

14th November

Right arm: 38.3 cm Right arm tensed 43.5 Left arm: 37.3 cm Shoulders: 131 cm Chest: 107 cm Waist: 90.5 cm Hips: 97cm Right thigh: 65.4 cm Left thigh: 64.1 cm Left calf: 45cm Right calf: 43.5 cm

Week 7 blood test results

Hormonal Levels

•	Testosterone: 111.3 nmol/L (High)
•	SHBG: 6 nmol/L (Low)
•	Free Testosterone: >2000 pmol/L (High)
•	oestradial 276 pmol/L (High)
•	Progesterone: 195 mIU/L (normal)
•	Prolactin: 7.2 nmol high 
•	FSH: <1 IU/L (Low)
•	LH: <1 IU/L (Low)

Liver Function

•	Alkaline Phosphatase: 124 U/L (Slightly High)
•	AST: 40 U/L (Slightly High)
•	ALT: 67 U/L (High)

Lipid Profile

•	Total Cholesterol: 3.4 mmol/L (Normal)
•	HDL Cholesterol: 0.6 mmol/L (Low)
•	LDL Cholesterol: 2.5 mmol/L (Normal)
•	Triglycerides: 0.7 mmol/L (Normal)
•	LDL/HDL Ratio: 4.2 (High)

Electrolytes & Renal Function

•	Sodium: 138 mmol/L (Normal)
•	Potassium: 5.1 mmol/L (Normal)
•	Creatinine: 96 µmol/L (Normal)
•	eGFR: >90 mL/min/1.73m² (Normal)

Other

•	Cortisol (AM): 305 nmol/L (Normal)
•	DHEA-Sulphate: 9.4 µmol/L (Normal)

Insulin: 20.2 nmol/L (Reference: 9.3 - 30.4 nmol/L)

Growth Hormone (GH): 9.2 µg/L (Reference: <5 µg/L)

IGF-1 20.2 nmol/L (9.3 - 30.4)

POST CYCLE BW

Post-Cycle Bloodwork Analysis (21st December 2024)

Total Testosterone: 47.5 nmol/L (High; reference: 8.3-29 nmol/L) Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG): 11 nmol/L (Low; reference: 11-71 nmol/L) Free Testosterone: 1566.1 pmol/L (High; reference: 255.0-725.0 pmol/L) FSH: < 0.1 IU/L (Low; reference: <7 IU/L) LH: 1 IU/L (Low; reference: <7 IU/L) Estradiol (E2): 176 pmol/L (High; reference: <150 pmol/L) Prolactin: 203 mIU/L (Normal; reference: 40-450 mIU/L)

ALT: 46 U/L (Slightly high; reference: <40 U/L) AST: 22 U/L (Normal; reference: <40 U/L) GGT: 16 U/L (Normal; reference: <40 U/L)

Total Cholesterol: 3.7 mmol/L (Normal; reference: 3.6-5.2 mmol/L) HDL Cholesterol: 0.9 mmol/L (Low; reference: 1.0-2.0 mmol/L) LDL Cholesterol: 2.5 mmol/L (Normal; reference: 1.5-3.4 mmol/L) Triglycerides: 0.6 mmol/L (Normal; reference: 0.5-1.7 mmol/L) Cholesterol/HDL Ratio: 4.1 (Within limits; target <5.0)

Creatinine: 110 µmol/L (Normal; reference: 60-110 µmol/L) eGFR: 77 mL/min/1.73m² (Mildly decreased; reference: >90 mL/min/1.73m²) Potassium: 4.4 mmol/L (Normal; reference: 3.6-5.4 mmol/L)

Hemoglobin (Hb): 173 g/L (High-normal; reference: 130-180 g/L) RBC: 6.1 x10¹²/L (High-normal; reference: 4.5-6.5 x10¹²/L) Hematocrit (Hct): 0.53 (High-normal; reference: 0.40-0.54)

hsCRP: 0.35 mg/L (Low; reference: <4.91 mg/L)

Fasting Glucose: 4.3 mmol/L (Normal; reference: 3.4-5.4 mmol/L

Currently in a short cutting phase and sub 10% bf thanks to retatrutide and trt but bloodwork is looking good enough to start the next blast in the new year

7 Comments
2024/12/21
20:43 UTC

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Gallbladder

I am on test 500 mg only , the area in the upper right part of the abdomen just under my ribs is feeling warm , after some research i suspect its my gallbladder has anybody had this issue ? Is there anything i can take to help

3 Comments
2024/12/21
19:53 UTC

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Might have to stop test after three days

The pip is so bad I can’t walk and am in excruciating pain even when I lie down and try to sleep.

I have been trying to pin in the ventro glutes

71 Comments
2024/12/21
18:55 UTC

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Presurgery test cyp?

Hey all, I tore my shoulder labrum. I'm on 400mg cyp weekly. I just got my bloods and they're all in a good range. E2 is 168 pmol/L.

I have surgery on the 22nd next month to repair my shoulder.

Do I need to get down to a TRT dose before surgery? I feel good, I did a 26k hike with 1100m of elevation gain across 5h. Got a massage the next day, and was good to go at the 48 hour mark. It's hilly here in Auckland, and I am blitzing up these hills like my legs are springs. Is this a factor to worry about? Or just stay steady with my current dosage

5 Comments
2024/12/21
18:53 UTC

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Question

Will asthma inhalers (fluticasone) interfere with testosterone supplementing? Anyone here who has asthma who takes testosterone? Im planning on doing test e 300 mg weekly

3 Comments
2024/12/21
18:33 UTC

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What is a half-life of methylestradiol?

Nothing else just title.

5 Comments
2024/12/21
17:06 UTC

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What has hgh done for your body composition? What’s Your dosing, length, and diet?

What has hgh done for your body composition?

How long have you been taking it how many iu? What have you noticed in regards to your body composition and what’s your diet like? Just trying to hear some other people’s experience

I’m currently on 4iu before bed subq but I just started taking it about 2 weeks ago

68 Comments
2024/12/21
16:22 UTC

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E2 Advice

Need advice on E2 management.

On 250 Test 250 Deca 10 Mg Dbol (only exercise days) my E2 came out at 101 pg/ml ref range is up to 39.8.

I reduced Test to 200 Mg, swapped Dbol for Anavar and added 150 Mg Eq and Arimidex .5 Mg 2x a week. Also split the injectables into two doses.

About 3 weeks into this I felt slight stiffness around my wrists so got E2 checked and it came out to be 11.8 on a test sample taken exactly one month apart.

Should I reduce Arimidex to half or stop it altogether?

4 Comments
2024/12/21
12:30 UTC

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HGH 2 month cycle

Had a hard time finding documented cycles on here that aren't "low dose hgh cruise year round". Was wondering how efficient a ~2 month cycle on hgh would be, and what dosages one should go for in this relatively small time frame? 6-8 IUs? Or would a combo of GHRPs and GHRHs be better suited for this, such as CJC 1295 and IPA or with MK677?

11 Comments
2024/12/21
11:11 UTC

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Bilirubin Elevated

I just got a liver panel after a 16wk 500mg test c cycle. I’ve been PCT for 2 weeks. Below are the labs for the liver panel:

PROTEIN, TOTAL 6.7 Reference Range: 6.1-8.1 g/dL ALBUMIN 4.3 Reference Range: 3.6-5.1 g/dL GLOBULIN 2.4 Reference Range: 1.9-3.7 g/dL (calc) ALBUMIN/GLOBULIN RATIO 1.8 Reference Range: 1.0-2.5 (calc) BILIRUBIN, TOTAL 1.5 H Reference Range: 0.2-1.2 mg/dL BILIRUBIN, DIRECT 0.3 H Reference Range: < OR = 0.2 mg/dL BILIRUBIN, INDIRECT 1.2 Reference Range: 0.2-1.2 mg/dL (calc) ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 49 Reference Range: 36-130 U/L AST 23 Reference Range: 10-40 U/L ALT 35 Reference Range: 9-46 U/L

Is it normal for the bilirubin to be elevated?

EDIT: I have also been cutting harshly (750 deficit) since the last 4 weeks of my cycle on Retatrutide.

2 Comments
2024/12/21
10:37 UTC

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Test e + Primo dose

Stats: Male, 37, 75kg, training 4 days a week, nutrition on point. Usually sit around 10-12% body fat. been lifting for 15 years. Have done 5 cycles of Test E @ 500mg for 10-14 weeks. Looking to do my first blast and cruise cycle and add Primo to the mix. Looking for advice on dosages and thoughts on my cycle plan. 10 weeks of Test E @400mg 12 weeks of Test E @150mg 10 weeks of Test E @400mg Then PCT

My previous cycles I have had a fair bit of water weight and bacne Would I run Primo he entire cycle? Could I just run it during the cruise or last blast? Wanting to look a bit less bloated this cycle

16 Comments
2024/12/21
09:31 UTC

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Problem with my recent cycle. Need advice

Hello all. I have been on trt (150mg ) for the past 2 and a half years. Every Christmas season I go on a cycle. Last year it was 500mg t. This year though along with 500mg t I am trying dbol. 30mg at start . In 3 weeks raised to 40mg and now at 6th week I am at 60. The problem I am facing is I took my blood pressure today and its 140/100. Isn't that way too much? I am thinking of cutting the cycle off completely but if it's not that serious I would like to complete atleast 8- 10 weeks. Any tips from experienced users is much appreciated.

I am 34 male btw

9 Comments
2024/12/21
08:34 UTC

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Will 10mg anavar do much?

I have 100x 10mg anavar pills and I was planning on 10mg a day for 7 weeks (then 2 months off), then another 7 before summer, alongside TRT-level test I take anyways (FTM trans). Cut in half, so 5mg AM and 5mg PM. I'm seeing conflicting opinions on whether 10mg will do much, but it's my first cycle and I'm kind of paranoid about potential side effects (will be getting regular bloods though). And I'm only 110lbs, so if dosage is scaled by weight I'm guessing I would need less than most guys? Also- I could up it to 20mg if I don't really notice anything, but how long should I leave it before making that call? Like, how fast would you normally feel the effects? Thanks :)

51 Comments
2024/12/21
06:16 UTC

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Best cutting stack for keeping or gaining strength while getting lean as hell?

So I’m currently on my winter bulk and I’m gaining some serious mass. Honestly I plan on continuing to blast deca and test till at least the end of march. Then I’m probably going to go straight to a cut. Ngl call me stupid but idc I’m going straight from blast to blast. Currently on a gram of test and 700 NPP 0 issues. Just a little more acne. Getting strong as fuck. I’ll be deadlifting 620 for 7 reps here within the next 2 weeks @184 lb. That being said I’m a little chubbier than I’d like. Between 16-18% bodyfat(still have my abs and v line as well as visible quad and arm veins) . Holding a fuck Ton of water for sure, what is the best cutting stack for my next cycle/cutting phase? I was thinking maybe 800 test and introducing tren since I’m a powerlifter? I want to keep strength up and get stronger if possible on my cut so I think tren is probably the best option. What’s your thoughts boys?

14 Comments
2024/12/21
05:30 UTC

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Cycle thought? 2nd cycle might do a second show enhanced first was natural

During cycle should i replace var with clen to cut? Test e 250 mg Eq 400 mg 6 weeks

6-8 weeks 500 test e 700 eq Prami 2 pills a day

8-12 weeks Hcg 250 iu a week 700 test e 850 eq Anavar 30 mg every other day

PCT HCG 500 iu twice a week Enclomaphine Omega 3 Beet powder supplement Tudca/nac

2 Comments
2024/12/21
00:09 UTC

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Dick not working fully any more on 4th cycle

So I’m on test 600 and primo 200 per week and 60 mg anavar daily same cycle I have done before but my dick ain’t getting hard fast and as often any more any idea what I can change ?

34 Comments
2024/12/20
23:53 UTC

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Nandralone equivalent for long term use.

I've been on try for a few years now. Everything has been good. I recently added a small dose of nandralone to my protocol that I got through my local clinic., 60mg/wk.

I lift M-F and it has definitely improved my strength but the biggest benefit has been recovery and getting rid of general aches and pains. The problem is my clinic will only let me do 3 months on and 3 months off. Unfortunately about 2 weeks after my final injection the aches and pains come back. Especially a nagging lower back issue.

My question is, what can I take that would be longer term. I'm also taking cjc/IPA which has been ok. Only been about a month. Are there any other peptides or peds I can add?

24 Comments
2024/12/20
23:02 UTC

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Fertility on steroids?

Have any of you gone extremely long periods of time on gear with no regards for fertility, and managed to get it back? How long were you doing so for?

Also, can HCG really just be used indefinitely while on something like TRT to keep your balls functional? Or does there come a time where your body just says yeah, fuck this, and 'turns' them off?

32 Comments
2024/12/20
20:45 UTC

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VA labs

Anyone here get their labs done with the VA? I have an appointment to get labs done, don’t know what all will be available to see.

7 Comments
2024/12/20
19:30 UTC

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