93 and Hello,

My name is Lucy. I'm a Thelemite. I have tried to attend Gnostic Mass in the past at local lodges, but Covid or my real life obligations got in the way. Does anyone know of a community or lodge that does online meetings of any sort? Something like Discord or Zoom. I used to participate on several Thelema Discords but there were no events with voice/cam. That's basically what I'm looking for. I work from home as a housekeeper/servant and I have a lot of responsibilities. I cannot attend meetings in person on a regular basis.

Thanks!

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Post from Robert Flores, Facebook:

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law

In memory of Robert C. Stein

Let it be known that at 7:35 AM this morning our beloved brother peacefully shed is earthly vehicle, with his daughter Misty by his side.

I was fortunate enough to get word from his daughter of when I should travel out to see him and arrived in time to visit with my old friend. He was visibly weak but strong in spirit. We held hands and spoke appreciatively of our many years of friendship and it was a beautiful moment.

It was a busy afternoon as friends came to pay there last regards. Seeing all the old faces was therapeutic and brought a sense of joy to our gathering - Afterall, we were celebrating the life of a Thelemite.

For those of you who didn't know him, Bob was an unusual character in all the right ways. He loved to discuss philosophy and qabalah and we rarely turned in before sunrise when I visited. When last I stayed with him we discussed the Holy Guardian Angel, he bemoaned that he remained unconvinced of its existence - yet appeared as if he wanted convincing - and so I obliged. Round and round we went for hours but before Bob retired (early in the AM) he said that he finally believed! Though he may have been pulling my leg, I took it as a personal victory and a memory I will always cherish.

Bob was in good spirits throughout the day and his energy level was good, all things considered. He shared that he was ready and that he was not afraid. As he grew more "delirious" he spoke of entering the next bardo and how it was time to turn off the machine.

I would visit Bob again the next day and he was no longer speaking, though I believe he knew we were there. It was much quieter then it had been the previous day and only a few of us remained to help his daughter Misty and to say our final goodbyes.

Brother August spent most of the morning laying next to him in bed while we waited for Brother Norman to arrive, (a beautiful sight to behold) while I busied myself helping Misty around the house.

When Norman arrived the three of us gathered around Bob and gave him a Thelemic Bon voyage for the ages. First August held his hand while slowly and passionately reciting the third chapter of Liber AL. Then Norman recited a chapter of Liber LXV from memory. I, sat with Bob on the astral throughout and when Norman concluded he leaned close to Bob and said... "the question is the answer". He later recanted that those were the last words Bob spoke to him when last he visited.

It was soon time that I had to go, and I knew my friend was near his end - (this was just yesterday) but that he had a full life.

Bob it was a pleasure and an honor knowing your Brother - you clearly impacted many - Gods speed and give my best to Alice.

Love is the law, love under will

Orpheus

Can an atheist join OTO? If they can, should they?

Is there any books, or papers that someone can read to see what pre-Crowley O.T.O was like, or what they taught? Thank you for your time.

93, I saw some similar posts to this one so I will keep it brief, but I live in a US city with a OTO lodge and have tried multiple different emails with no response. The first one was over a year ago, and I sent another a few months ago. I’ve also tried sg@oto and the US grand lodge email. The local Lodge is very far out of my way and I don’t have a car, so I was just wondering if email was the wrong approach or if there is a better way to meet members from my city and get to know the community? Thank you all in advance for any help you can provide, you can also DM if you have any specific info 93/93

I’m in the UK and unsure how would I go about acquiring a sponsor? Any suggestions will be very appreciated.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Please join Scarlet Woman Lodge for a magical, mystical evening of fun!

The event is FREE and open to the public.

We’ll be hosting a community evening with feasting, fraternity, a silent auction, short talks on our initiatory system, and more!

The “three sisters” refer to the Native American tradition of growing corn, beans, and squash together as they help each other grow. Much like our three sisters, Scarlet Woman helps us to grow as well, both individually and as a community. Come see what we celebrate!

Date: November 11, 2023

Time: 4:30 to 8:30 PM

Place: Suite 304, 1514 Ed Bluestein Blvd, Austin, TX 78721

(Look for the Lime Green Buildings)

https://scarletwoman-oto.org

Love is the law, love under will.

What does '☉ 8°30'27" ♎︎ : ☽ 12°45'4" ♉︎ : ☉ : Vix' mean on Ordo templi orientis's website?

Good evening @all Community members, I decided to continue my spiritual journey within the OTO so I looked up for a Temple in my region.

Currently I'm living in Germany and the nearest Temple seemed to be in the City of Bielefeld. So I contacted them a while ago via Mail, thru the Mail adress that I could find on their official website. But I haven't heared anything from them until now. Is there anyone with experience on how long they take to answer such requests?

Thank you in advance.

I'm looking towards initiation, I do realize this subreddit has not been very active in the past year but I'm on a journey.

Under the current practices of O.T.O. what is the timeline for membership “time in grade” requirements from the 0° through to the III°?

In Perpetuity Publications and the Australian Grand Lodge of Ordo Templi Orientis present a new installment of Ora et Labora, an O.T.O. research journal. Volume IV is available from online retailers from 20th March, 2023 e.v.

Vol IV

• The Life of the Sun, the Joy of the Earth: An orientation for practice and awareness in the M∴M∴M∴ - Ian Drummond
• The Mythology Of The Eucharist: An Introduction to the Cakes of Light. - Soror Shalimar
• The Solar Myth and the Path of Initiation - Cosimo Salvatorelli
• VIAOV: the Monomyth of Aleister Crowley - Sinisha Tzar
• The Therion Files - William Peters
• A World of Difference: Love in the New Aeon - Daniel Brant Corish
• The Left-Hand Path - Frater S.P.
• Liber Samekh - Garry McSweeney
• The Konami Code: Crowley, Card Games and the Occult - N. F. Robinson
• The Birth of Hell: Formulae of Initiation in The Book of Two Ways and the Ceremony of the Death of Asar - Shokufeh Alwazi
• Reading BD Spell: The mindful heart of Ankh-ef-en-khonsu - Rev. Cosmé Hallelujah
• Apokalypsis III: Depth Revelation - Steve King
• Introduction To Larry Sitsky's Music (piano and chorus) for Ecclesiae Gnosticae Catholicae Canon Missae - Joel Brady
• Music (Piano and Chorus) for Ecclesiae Gnosticae Catholicae Canon Missae - Larry Sitsky

Available for order everywhere in the world. More informations and links to online shops under https://ora-et-labora.site/.

Does anyone know where to get a ritual sword like the one Crowley describes? Is anyone making them?

As, someone Who regularly studies esoterica and other elements of hidden knowledge (occult)

What novels or poetry, do you recommend for beginners

I hear that Liber Al vel Legris is one of the most influential books on thelemism and its connection with egyptology.

I know I don't know, which pushes me to know more.

The AEon of horus. Do what thou wilt, Shall be the whole of the law.

I am currently trying to find a solution to get initiated into OTO

I want make sure, I study more and read more.

That way I'll know more about thelema and other egyptain beings,

like Thoth, Ra, Nuit and Heru-ra-ha.

That way I won't be a complete beginner when I join Ordo Templi Orientis.

because a lot of it is hidden from new members, unless you get higher up in the ranks.

from minerval to Frater Superior, and Outer Head of the Order.

I want to learn, I want to understand, I want to explore more on this.

I read about the OTO on oto-usa.org, and the 7th house 24th number states “It is desirable that the marriage partner of any Brother should also be a member of the Order. Neglect to insist upon this leads frequently to serious trouble for both parties, especially the uninitiate.” I want to understand why this must be a requirement? To elaborate; My partner (who I plan to marry) isn’t into the occult or spirituality at all, so she would not be interested in this order. I’ve also herd some wild accusations about this order, in which I believe are untrue due to the stigma surrounding our occult and spiritual practices. I can’t help but be a little concerned, it’s just in my nature lol.

The Minerval Degree (0°) is an introductory Initiate degree in which the aspirant is considered an “honored guest” of O.T.O. rather than a full member. The Minerval degree is designed to allow the aspirant to decide whether or not to pursue full membership, and to allow potential sponsors the opportunity to decide whether to support the aspirant’s application for full membership. Minervals may begin preliminary novitiate training under an E.G.C. Bishop towards ultimate ordination to the Diaconate and/or Priesthood in Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica, but they are not eligible for ordination or for service as an officer of a Local Body.

The First Degree (I°) bestows full membership upon the initiate. A First Degree initiate may retire from active participation in O.T.O., but the spiritual link forged between the initiate and the Order during the ceremony of the First Degree will remain throughout the initiate’s life. An initiate of the Second Degree is eligible for ordination as a deacon of Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica.

Beyond the degree of P∴I∴, advancement is by invitation only. Initiates of the intermediate degree of Knight of the East and West (K.E.W.) are eligible for formal ordination to the Priesthood in Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica. Episcopal consecration in Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica is conferred as part of the Seventh Degree. The Tenth Degree (X°) is held by the National Grand Master General of O.T.O. in a particular country.

The Man of Earth degrees follow a pattern based on the symbolism of the Chakras and the stages of Kundalini Yoga; and represent, in dramatic form, the Individual’s Path in Eternity. In the 0°, the Ego, a wandering God, is attracted to the Solar System. In the I°, the Child experiences Birth. In the II°, the Man or Woman experiences Life. The III° represents the Death of the individual, and the IV° represents the world beyond Death, the glorified state of the Initiate. In the P∴I∴ Degree, the Initiate symbolically achieves ultimate Perfection (Completion), and the entire cycle is withdrawn into Annihilation.

Of these Events or Stations upon the Path, all but the II° represent single critical experiences. We, however, are concerned mostly with the varied experiences of Life. All subsequent degrees are therefore elaborations of the II°, a progressive instruction in how to live, since in a single ceremony it is hardly possible to sketch, even in the briefest outline, the Teaching of Initiates with regard to Life.

The V° – IX° rituals and teachings are therefore instructions to the Initiate in the Mastery of Life; there is instruction in Hermetic Philosophy, Qabalah, Magick and Yoga, all aimed at preparing the Initiate for the revelation and application of one Supreme Secret.

The X° is conferred upon the Supreme and Holy King of each national Grand Lodge.

The XI° is technical, and has no relation to the general plan of the Order.

The XII° is held exclusively by the Outer Head of the Order.

Every man and woman of full age (18 or more years old), free, and of good report, has an indefeasible right to the first three degrees of O.T.O. (but not according to any particular time schedule). These “first three degrees” actually include all the degrees in the Man of Earth Triad (the Minerval is considered a prologue to the First Degree, and the Fourth and P∴I∴ Degrees are considered pendants to the Third Degree).

Progress of the O.T.O. initiate toward the Fourth and P∴I∴ Degrees is usually a matter of years. A certain amount of time is usually required to allow full maturation of the effects of the O.T.O. initiations, although under some circumstances the Minerval and First Degrees may be taken on the same occasion.

I am interested in this organization. However I have questions. I understand that sex magick is utilized and I wonder if this is done in an orgy form or if it can be done between two romantic partners alone. I’m not interested in sharing my partner sexually.

93,

I’ve noticed a lot of empty calendars and zoom events on the websites of local bodies near me. I’m just curious about the state of OTO bodies in general right now. How many are only doing on-line functions, and how many are totally open? Are there any plans to “re-open” the OTO? Any established criteria for when the conditions would be right for re-opening? I’m not in the order myself, but am planning to join as soon as I can. These might sound like dumb questions to those of you who are in the order and know what’s going on. And please understand, I’m not trying to criticize any decisions that others have made about how to respond to the pandemic, I just would like to know what the state of things are in the order at the moment.

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When I wisth to learn about the Golden Dawn Magick, I found The Golden Dawn from Israel Regardie or the books of the ciceros.

It's any book like this to learn and practice the Thelema and/or the OTO magick? read, practice and learn of the system in the OTO ?

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Thanks a lot

I want to join the oto, but I live in Colombia (not Columbia) in south America, I wish to follow and learn that path, what can I do?

Yes. Any text that can be bought to understand the workings and beliefs of OTO would be greatly appreciated

Especially for people who have made extreme advancements on the path yet have experienced disruptions and loss due to psychic phenomenon and entities.

Anyone of you have any experience or knowledge about the O.T.O of denmark?

I know i can write to them on the Web, but from what ive found by reasearch, alot of organisations throughout the magick path has been corrupted by ego. And I dont really wanna waste time when id rather do my own thing than using my energy on something that only talks a great game but not doing the great work.

Thanks in advance

Text copied verbatim from Ordo Templi Orientis Sverige.

More information in italian on the website of Ordo Templi Orientis, Gran Loggia d'Italia.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

In a remarkable feat, O.T.O. Italy Grand Lodge has translated Magick, Liber ABA, Book IV, into Italian. It includes new and revised notes, and some important works have got their official Curriculum listing with new Libri numbers:

Liber 53. The Stone of the Philosophers.
Liber 297. The Goetia. Class B
Liber305. The Herb Dangerous.
Liber 397. Konx Om Pax.
Liber 441. Ameth.
Liber 550. Tannhaueser.
Liber 713. Time. Class B

Other Libri get their official Class imprimatur like Tao Teh Ching in Class B. The “Canon of the Gnostic Mass” is now officially an A.'.A.'. Class D paper (!), other added Class B literature is J.D. Gunther’s “The Inward Journey Books” I - III, and “The Vision of the Pylons” in Class C.

It is a classy, beautiful book, and you can order it from various Italian online stores and from Amazon Italy.

Congratulations!

Love is the law, love under will.

Minerval FAQ of Blazing Star Oasis.