Episode Discussions List

The final season where Red gets really messed up from the SHU, Lorna has gone completely insane, her girlfriend Shani gets deported back to Egypt I believe.. she’s gone through much, it’s so sad seeing it happen again. She’s made something of herself though, especially in prison. Seeing her turn into Red Jr was such a bittersweet ending ): god I’m so obsessed with her character, I don’t want the show to be over lollllll

i love everything about it. i love the characters i think they did a great job at making their characters so human and likable. or at the very least, understandable.

the way i connect to the characters is unlike any other show. i’ve cried to this show, gotten so angry that i’ve had to light a cigarette to deal with what the fuck i’ve just watched. it’s just amazing. the storylines make a lot of sense too and it’s so interesting to see the difference in how the characters used to be on the outside vs what became of them in prison. cause people often change, or get to know a different side to them while being incarcerated.

i also love how the show brings up important discussions like black lives matter, how unfairly many CO’s treat inmates, ICE.. etc. like it’s just a masterpiece of television if you ask me. not to mention the comedy. it’s fucking hilarious, but i love that with the comedy came real emotions, drama and depth. i just fucking love this show

Seeing lorna react to her baby’s death and pretend like it never happened is so heartbreaking to me 💔 she needs mental help not to be locked in a cell :(

Aside from her being easily the funniest character on the show, she’s also the most complex. It’s too many people focused on her shortcomings as a mother, and not enough noticing her relentless struggle with vulnerability and emotional connection. She loves her children to death, she did anything she knew how to to keep them out of harms way, but she never allowed herself to show them how much she loves them. She would rather hurt them than develop a connection she could potentially lose. Right up to when she leaves the prison, she strictly tells Daya to not cry when it’s clear she’s tearing up as well. The episode when she took Daya to the summer camp made me feel for the both of them so much. Daya didn’t want to go to the camp and Aleida didn’t want to let her go, as evidenced by her crying in the car after dropping her off, but knew it could potentially be a life changing opportunity for Daya, so she hurt her to get her to let go of her. It’s clear to me she’s always wanted better for her children than she had for herself, but was also too traumatized to show them how much she cares. Anyways, I’ve just never understood the hate Aleida gets for being "the worst person ever" when she’s arguably one of the realest people in that prison. She’s an emotionally neglectful mother who did her best

were they real?? such as the conferedate flag on the back of the neck i feel like im being dumb but im just curious

What is one story line or characters outcome you would change or how you hope it happens after the show ended. For me I would have loved for Taystee to continue with the PW funds and creates enough following that her case gets looked into properly, Cindy and Suzanne come forward and she is released.

Usually, plotholes or gaps in logic/reasoning don't bother me too much, but this one really bugged me given there was such an obvious solution.

In s7 the ICE kitchen crew is interrogated because a smuggled phone was found, Gloria's phone that Karla had used. Gloria takes the fall and gets an extra 5 years.

Why didn't they just say it was Karla's, who everyone knew was being deported anyways? They could have even said they heard her calling her kids to say goodbye? I know the whole point was people finally taking accountability for their actions BUT she was doing a good thing, so I really wish they would have just said it was Karla's since they couldn't have really punished her more than being deported.

The show offers a glimpse into the lives of certain inmates both before and during their time in prison. How accurate is its portrayal of poverty in America, and how common are the experiences depicted? For example, characters like Taystee, Flaca, Morello, and Pennsatucky each represent different struggles within different communities. Is this an accurate reflection of life solely for the lower-lower class (bottom 5%), or does it extend beyond that?

(I’m from a country in East Asia where poverty is not as widespread as it is in some other countries so please excuse my ignorance)

I can’t stand Aleida. That is all.

Am I the only one who cannot stand Larry??!?

I LOVED the first few seasons of this show but season 6 is absolutely dragging and the storylines are boring. I also can’t stand Badison and her accent is just irritating. The taystee storyline is the only thing keeping me watching

I don’t like Suzanne

so, i just started watching, however im already on season 3 ep 11 … oops. anyway, this whole piper and stella situation going on is so fucking annoying. first of all piper got alex back into prison and gave this whole emotional monologue in drama class about how she can’t miss her and needs her and shit. then she somehow can’t handle alex when she gets paranoid HOWEVER is genuinely getting stalked and it’s not just in her head, which is the situation piper put her in. then this unnecessary character that does not contribute to the storyline whatsoever jumps in and suddenly piper is all over her and they make out?? i’m just so confused. i really liked piper so far but man this whole situation is just so unnecessary. i just feel so bad for alex

Polly was so fucking annoying and a self centered bitch. I remember when she visited piper when she was new to the prison and omg she kept talking about herself I was so annoyed, like your best friend is in prison how could you sit across her and make the whole convo about you…….every time she opened her mouth I just wondered how piper was even best friends with her. And then her sleeping with her best friend’s fiancé RIGHT AFTER she had a baby🤢🤢? Sorry not sorry she was such a whore, I didn’t feel bad for piper getting cheated on because she brought all that upon her self but as someone’s close friend you don’t sleep with their man, it really made me wonder if Polly could do something so selfish and disgusting what else she could of done behind pipers back because she clearly wasn’t a true friend. Piper was very mature for meeting up with Larry and Polly after she got out prison because me personally I would’ve rocked Polly’s shit, that’s all🥰

If Nicky is jewish then why didn't she have the kosher meals or at least get to have an actual explanation on what Judaism is an get to eat kosher?

Edit: I know not all jewish people eat kosher and that she was in max when the whole thing went down but my point for this post was when she returned and the food was shit she could have used her jewish background to get the good food. even though she probably no longer practices judaism.(also side note she never actually practice judaism in the show aside from when we saw her bat mitzvah but in season seven she acts as a rabi for Piper and Alex to get married so she might just be an atheist Jew. Also I don't know to much about judaism so please tell me if I'm wrong or educate me)

Allison: What's offensive is that a photograph of two idiots wearing hijabs automatically gets labeled as terrorism.

Tell me I'm not the only one that thinks that Matthew Mcconaughey in the commercial about Mike Ditka looks shockingly like CO Mendez.

Link: https://youtu.be/GpzoIpnwzqQ?si=8N4ltVKHgTkt5TeL

for those who don’t remember, allison is the one who came in later and she was bunk mates with Cindy. i just wanted to say how much i ADORE this woman. i love how she’s not scared of any of the OG inmates. i love her role in the riot, i love her dynamic with taystee, cindy, janae, and Suzanne, and i loooove her backstory. i’ve never really seen shows that have polygamy plot lines and this one was done so well. and the parallel between her and the white lives matter chick (forgot her name lmfao) but how they both made arrangements for their husbands to have another wife/girlfriend and now are struggling with that plus the added on stress of motherhood while locked up. i just love this character so so much.

one things ive noticed watching and rewatching oitnb is the breaking of fourth walls ones i can remember is when pensatucky was raped by donuts and then showing of her past and how many times she was taken advantage of, when she made eye contact with the camera my hearts breaking broke

another time was pousseys final goodbye after her death

HER DEATH GETS ME EVERY SINGLE TIME I REWATCH THE SHOW my hearts breaking she was the mediator of everyone

honestly i really think co baylee cared for people but he was so undertrained and that made him bad at his job in a high stress environment - ending in pousseys death

he was very young and when the other guards will do something to abuse the female inmates he would question it so he did have good moral

going back to pousseys death i dont think it was entirely his fault (partial ofc will never get over pousseys death it was so avoidable) but it was definitely the system that failed him and all the women in the prison. the higher ups would hire anyone, with no experience and then under train them (giving them guide books and thats all)

i dont think he was the worst guard (the other guards raped, coerced women into fighting, extensive amounts of abuse, and even war crimes in the past) yet i think he got the most hate out of everyone, when he was just caught up in a extremely stressful situation such as suzanne having a typical melt down infront of him and he saw how dangerous and agressive she can get when she is having an episode so he had to focus on that and restrain poussey what gets me bothered about him is that poussey didnt even do nothing and she passed away trying to calm down the situation so i will never let go of that it breaks my heart

trailing off i think poussey was always the mediator, her death caused the women to finally riot against the abuse thats happened for a long time

ps if you disagree please dont send me hate but id love to hear your opinion and give me another insight!!

Soso was extremely boring what was her point in the show? She had no personality, she was strange, and just overall useless. If she wasn’t in the show the show would have literally been the same, and her relationship with poussey was so random, anyways I could fall asleep watching her never cared for her. Only positive thing I can say is she was a very pretty girl with nice skin & hair Leanne definitely cut her hair out of jealousy.

I feel SO bad for her. yes i understand what she has done but she has been so fucked over. can anyone else agree. or has this been discussed already? i'm sorry i'm new to this thread and this show lol! 😅

She prevents Daya from having an abortion, convinces her to keep the baby because "kids are great" then tries to pawn the baby off to Mendez's mother the first chance she gets so she can make money. They were both in prison, so I don't understand why she wouldn't let Daya abort the baby. She knew that kid wouldn't have a good upbringing besides the fact that Daya would give birth in prison. Then, she finds out Mendez's mother is interested and immediately tries to get money out of her and tells Daya it's what's best for the baby. And remember she started all of this before Bennett even left, so circumstances were the same. Mendez's mother agreed to pay her, bur Aleida kept it a secret from Daya because she wanted the money to herself. This is the second time I've watched the show and it makes me angrier the second time.

She's also an annoying side character that butts into everyone's business to make snide comments. Like when Sophia had issues with her son and stopped driving Gloria's son to visitation. She accused Sophia of preventing Gloria from seeing her son, as if Gloria didn't insist her son visit weekly without confirming it with her mother to be a driver. Sophia went out of her way to set it up with her wife to carpool Gloria's son. Anytime I heard Aleida pipe up with "You're keeping her away from her son." I wanted to strangle her. She was getting free rides for her son and Sophia has her own family problems.

I feel like I'm the only one on here who genuinely HATES Mendez 😭 Why is everyone saying he's better than Bennett ??? Just cuz he didn't want to take care of a kid and lose his job ?? Ok that's bad but isn't Mendez an abusive drug dealer rapist who made someone OD and then framed it as them hanging to save himself ?? How is that all okay just cuz he decided he was gonna raise a kid ?? If I was whoever he got pregnant I would much rather be a single mom. If he's abusing his power in prison don't you think he would be able to do the same with a kid ?? I'm also just at season 1 so If you have any spoilers abt that or if he dies in the futur they'd be really appreciated 😞

That name actually grew on me and now I think it’s a cute name for a girl. I love how Maria says I think it’s “push it” was her and Yadriel’s song and that’s why they named her Pepa. Also now whenever my son watches Peppa Pig I think of this show.

almost at the episode where poussey dies and my hearts already breaking because i know this is where the downfall of everything happens 💔 one thing i noticed the second time i watched the show was after they were sent to max and red started developing dementia and loosing herself the red in her hair was also fading loosing her colour and i feel that it was really symbolic

Did somebody can write the story chapter by chapter that Suzan wrote in the season 3 pls

The guy literally confessed to war crimes during his tour overseas to one of his CO coworkers (I think it was Matt). I think he said he made some kid juggle grenades.

(I might rewatch it later to edit my mistakes in the post, can't remember everything)

So it might be an unpopular opinion, but when he confronted Ruiz about the way she treated him during the riot (infact I couldn't help but laugh when he said he won't be able to use the portapotty anymore), how it traumatized and humiliated him, it's very difficult to feel anything towards a war criminal.

It's a good thing the they didn't show what he actually did, otherwise the audience would hate him the minute they saw it.

this is very minor and i’m probably looking too much into things but i just thought about this for the first time and it’s confusing me a little. as soon as everyone got transferred to max she immediately tried to kill herself because she knew she’d be targeted by the denning sisters. and she’s a very smart woman, so she probably knew they were all going to max for the riot, especially as CERT approached the pool. so what i don’t quite understand is why, with very readily available resources (a gun), she would wait until she got to max to give it a shot (so to speak) using a less reliable method. like she said, “the cyanide pill only works if you take it before the commies bust through the door.” i’d think she’d take her dad’s advice on this one. but then again, maybe she thought they might’ve ended up somewhere else. most likely this is just one of those things that make little to no sense in a show/movie but you’re not really supposed to think about it because it serves the purpose of furthering the plot