Psychiatrist ordered blood work to be done. For reference I used 10 grams of ODSMT in the span of 2 weeks and 4 days. The blood work was done on the first day of withdrawal (Friday.) It was so unbearable but nonetheless still got it done. Today she calls me and tells me that everything is fine, but my TSH is low (0.162) indicating hyperthyroidism. I’m wondering if opioid affect the thyroid, and if so it what manner. I’m going to see a physician in 2 days regardless. A little info would be very helpful

Hi, I just want to say something about what happened to me yesterday afternoon. So I was a polysubstance drug addict for 17 years up until yesterday I’d been clean for 16 months until I was going through my room and found an old shoebox in my wardrobe that was filled with needles old baggies some ghb and two oxycodone pills. I instantly felt sick after discovering the contents of the shoebox, but after the initial shock of finding it all the only thing I could think about was using and instead of coming clean with my loved one’s and getting rid of it all I went ahead and used. It was almost like I couldn’t control myself, once I had the pills and fresh needles in my hand it was like I became possessed, I instantly went to my desk and crushed the two 10mg oxycodone targin pills and injected them. The initial rush was amazing but soon after I realised that it was too strong and that I had fkd up I made it about two steps out of my room and collapsed. I think after about a minute my body started going into extremely harsh drug induced dystonia, intense myoclonic jerks, my breathing was shuttered almost like each time I tried to inhale I would have a hiccup reaction and I was going in and out of a delirium. While this was all happening I came to the realisation that I was going to die.. but the only thing I could think about was my family and how I didn’t want to lose them or vice versa. After fighting off death for the next I’m not sure how long I managed to remember that my phone was on my kitchen bench and I somehow mustered up all the strength I had left and crawled to my phone to call emergency services. I spent time in the hospital and was just discharged some time ago. I guess I am writing all of this for others who are thinking of using again to say to them that life is way too beautiful to let go of. Please know that there is help out there and that you are loved and cherished..! Stay safe out there people you are worth it..! ❤️🙏🦾

Which gives you a better high in terms of nodding and euphoria?

My 2 cents on Isotonitazepyne, contrary to the majority of posts and comments, it does dissolve into a beautiful golden solution in just water. Rolling boil, 1 to 3 seconds. If you want to reduce that, add a portion from a single use Vitamin C sachet, (not the entire thing,) and can get that down to just reaching boiling point for under a second.

Do have the other hydrophobic kind people speak of, first experience of that. It's incredibly hydrophobic, whatelse is there to say. Haven't tried, waiting for the lab to come back to ensure. (Has very little aroma, fine powder.)

This stuff, comes back as a Major in Isotonitazepyne, Zero Minors. When things are cut or mixed, comes back with Minors present of unknown origin.

I speculate Iso that's on the more pure side dissolves, or if it's the synthesis itself makes batches vary in solubility. This stuff that's results came back has a very pungent chemical aroma, almost vinegar like, not quite, but a strong aroma. It's beige/ yellow, in clumps/ powder, all of the same material.

Long legs, a shot lasts 24 - 36 hours. Dose, started at sub milligram, now about 1mg per shot (of this particular stuff). Compared to Protonitazepyne, (which mine dissolved at about 80°, turning to an oil prior to distributing in the water and making a perfect shot, no vitamin C necessary,) and is preferable for me. Ppyne has an amazing rush, better than Isopyne. Iso is still the best about currently, imo.

As said waiting on the results for the, new to me, hydrophobic powder. Can post an update when they come in. I was told the potency of the hydrophobic was low, compared to this water soluble Iso. So 1 guess is the hydrophobic powder is cut with something, well, hydrophobic. I don't know. Will see if the lab picks anything up.

Apparently following the ban in China, not sure if new Isopyne is being made. So could be the remaining is being cut to spread it further.

Anyone else get the stuff in clumps, strong smell, dissolves in both just water, or with citric (if you want to minimize bringing it to the boil)? 99% of the posts seem to be referring to the super hydrophobic stuff, which I couldn't relaten to until recently but don't know if that's Iso yet, waiting for results.

I‘ve used ~100mg of Protopyne vaped over 7 days. How bad will WD be and how fast will it kick in? how long will it last ca?? I have a lil kratom for help and also some more pynes but I really wanna stop and I think tapering will just make it worse

Okay I want to start off by being abundantly clear I am breaking no rules I am not trying to source whatsoever I just simply want to know if a compound exists that is stronger more euphoric longer-lasting and or better than our current options including Tia, kratom, odsmt, etc. are there any strong ones that are actually worthwhile that still fall under the category of illegal or gray law? Something The strength of morphine, oxy, hydro, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, fentanyl, hell I'd even be down with some fentanyl and nitazine analogs if they were engineered to have a safer therapeutic index.

Let’s be real Tianeptine will definitely become a controlled substance or the very least RX only in the US at least before 2030 (hopefully not).

But would Tianeptine still be around and sold illegally like Nitazenes and other RCs after it gets banned? Or will it become very rare to find?

If you try to look for it in Dark web markets you’ll see less than 3 sellers selling it.

Such a shame if that happens because Tianeptine is my favorite Opioid.

For months now I use this substance vapandola 500mg in 50/ 60ml between glycerine glycol and aroma, the point is that lately towards the finr I have stretched a little' solution to dilute but now it’s over. I do not know how to deal with this abstinence now and I do not know if it can be fatal, I do not know whether to use methadone to cover the first days together with loperamide that was recommended to me or if to make another order of cyclo and start a dilution cycle again immediately, I have been through heroin withdrawal in the past, but this situation is particularly worrying to me. Thank you all for your support Ps. In these months I had breaks of 2/3 or 4 days without symptoms but every time I fell back in use so more than a clean week I have never done

not asking where do you guys get it, im just trying to figure out if any of you still getting furanyl-fentanyl. thx

Is it snortable that is all I want to know I tried isotonitazene and snorting was really good

Hey guys I unfortunately ran out of my ic-26/methiodone and the sr is not working for me. I do have some spc but I received that I’m hoping will get me through thanksgiving but I have no idea about ROA or dosages, can anyone help? I have a pretty strong tolly don’t really get high from any dosage most traditional opiates won’t work honestly only really high doses of Tia, fent, and ic-26 are able to even keep away the withdrawals

Hey guys I have a pretty strong tolly I’m trying to figure out the best roa and dosage range for spc? Unfortunately I ran out of my ic-26/methiodone and the sr17018 isn’t working for me….all I have left is this spc any advice?

Good afternoon, I’ve got some questions regarding SR-17018. Looking to find out more information and even people’s experiences with this particular chem. I’ve read some scientific reports stating it can help decrease the tolerance for morphine in rats. I’ve read posts anecdotal reports of some people’s experiences. From what I gather It’s specific opioid agonist, working in a different way than full agonists and partial agonists. I’ve been taking kratom for years and started taking 7-oh products daily. Now my tolerance is high and start getting withdrawals if I don’t take any. If I go without the 7-oh I feel a bit of withdrawal and it’s uncomfortable but manageable (especially if I’m home, while at work it take more due to the high stress and anxiety of my job) Anyway this substance sparked my interest. I definitely want to get off kratom and only use when needed and not daily. I was looking into IBOGA but it’s illegal in the US so I was looking into some IBoga clinics and it costs thousands of dollars (not including the plane ticket) so unfortunately I won’t be able to use IBOGA, if I had money, time and resources I would definitely use it. So I got an interest in SR-17018 due to many people saying it helped them significantly lower their dose and even completely stop with no withdrawal (some people were on hard stuff like fent and zenes). Can anyone give more Information even share their experience? Maybe some info on strength, dosage and best ROA. Anything will help. There’s limited information I can find so definitely want to be more informed.

some nice fetty/rcs idek what it is lol

Is the the North American stuff good by the obvious vendor? Worth a try for opioid naïve?

I did a little research on boofing O-Dsmt. It sounds like a superior experience but I can’t find a good guide for dose conversion.

If someone would normally take 100mg orally, how much would an equivalent boof dose be?

Hi everyone well if there's anyone reading, I have rheumatoid arthritis I'm 31 I'm a normal weight was an athlete before, started with codeine then switched to tramadol, then the worst time of my life began breakups loss ect and started running out of my prescription before it was due, got switched to 20mg of zomorph slow release and 10mg oramorph a day. After being on 400mg of tramadol a day. Still running out and having to buy codeine over the counter so I don't go into withdrawal. The withdrawal from the oramorph and zomorph is nothing compared to before. I know I'm an addict and it's the first time I've admitted it. My question is will i ever feel happy again without that warm fuzzy feeling? If your reading maybe you understand the feeling, like there's problem and if it seeps in I'll take more An deal with it when I run out, I feel humiliated writing this, I haven't turned to street drugs to fill the void, but I've tried find someone who sells the stuff I take and I just needed to talk to someone. Thank you x

Has anyone tried Isotonitazene and Protonitazene before how do they differ from each other dealer changed opioids in his pressies and don’t know if I’ll want Proto

I don't think I ever posted this here, but they're a popular brand and I figured this forum could benefit from some transparency.

https://youtu.be/8lBSL_HTW4I

Hey all!

I’m working on creating a harm reduction guide for zenes and would love to hear people’s experiences with them and advice - it’ll be specifically focusing on the following, but please add anything else you feel is important or relevant!

• Different types of zenes and a very approximate lineup of potency (dosage if possible)

• Harm reduction advice for a variety of ROAs

• Any anecdotal experiences you’ve had (such as unexpected withdrawal, how long it took to change your tolerance/dependency)

• Experience with tapering off or down; Opiate Assisted Treatment, and/or SR-17018, anything different you’ve noticed about zene withdrawal compared to other opioids, or even other zenes

If you know of any other helpful threads or resources, please let me know! I’m based in the UK, but hoping to make the guide helpful for anyone anywhere, especially considering there’s very little in the way of “actual” research or guidance.

Note: Please don’t comment “don’t use zenes”! The guide will be targeted to/ is for people who are already on zenes or are just starting out. There will of course be a note at the beginning which highlights associated risks and emphasises how potent they are, as well as clarifying that a lot of the guidance is not necessarily backed up by research. This is for users by users, with the aim of reducing risk.

Thank you all in advance!

Hi.

I'm on 40mg methadone and have been doing dope for a while. Sadly dope doesn't do much anymore and I would like to try zenes after a mate introduced me to them. He only has a N Destetyhlpronotitazene which isn't that good from my research.

I researched a lot & found a shop that has:

• N-Desethylisotonitazene
• Protonitazepyne
• Metonitazepyne
• Isotonitazepyne

Which one should I get for IV use ? How are zenes vaped ?

I have a precision scale & plan to titrate, please don't want me about this rather, help me choose the zene that will have the most warmth & legs.

So far, I think I am going to go with Metonitazepyne. Metonitazene is out of stock so..

Thanks!

Let’s say you receive a package of what you ordered and it was meant to be O-dsmt. You’ve done your research and you know the supplier you ordered from is a legitimate supplier that has been operating as a business for a long time, but you have never personally dealt with them until now.

So you get your package of o-dsmt, and the weight is correct but you don’t have a ton of experience with o-dsmt and can’t be 100% confident by eyeballing it that it is indeed o-dsmt strictly off appearance.

You’re paranoid because the menu of the company includes potent zenes and a multitude of other chemicals you have no interest in handling in any way. And again, the company has a great reputation with no mid-matched orders ever reported, but there’s always that first time.

So, what do you do in this situation to test for zenes or potent chemicals that could prove deadly if you come into contact with them unintentionally and unknowingly?

Idk why I wrote this third person, but I’m looking for advice on how to be safe as possible within reason and verify as much as I can that the product is what I ordered. Any input is appreciated.

So I can choose between protonitazene and O-DSMT. Im on methadone 90 mg every second day but im able to take a break if needed. Its been ages since i truly nodded out, bit i prefer legs that last.

My tolerance has reached a point where getting high is prohihibitly expensive and so we turn to zenes. Using pure proto with a tolerance like that I can be pretty confident I'm not gonna fall out right? Street fent will get my high but barely and it takes quite a bit. What do y'all think?

My shrink just ran a test me because I wanted to know if the standard panel picks up ODMST. I got very weak hits for methadone and morphine. He said they would not be strong enough to count as positive. I only take ODMST ( cut back last week to now 50mg a day) from one source and haven’t done poppy seed tea in over a year. Could this happen chemically through cross reactivity? Micro-contamination from the source? Or is it just noise?

What other information is needed to make a simple solution like this with a particular chemical?

I have links to the mg/ml online calculator apps but just want to make sure it’s done properly.

Any help?

I’ve done odsmt, sr17018 or whatever it’s called, iso and proto, and some random stimulants but i don’t fw stims so put me onto some good Rcs, in need.

Some of my posts keep getting removed and it’s confusing. is O-DSMT still considered an RC?

Was sent these images. Offered by a vendor. Was told it is a protonitazene replacement. No CAS number or further details offered.

Really struggling to read the labels, even after sharpening up the image.

Chat GPT seems to think these are nitazenes.

Had anyone got any information about what these potentially are? I DO NOT have a sample to send away for testing. Just wondering if anyone else has been offered these or knows anyone who has. Anyone with experience with these sort of vendors will know they're deliberately cagey with new products.