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Yeah... it's that simple. By season 8 Henry was turned into a total idiot who didn't care about anything but his own stupid thoughts. The show may have had some good plots before the end of the series but after S3 Episode 3 nothing was decent, or better. Excluding Graham, August and anything during Season 3 through 7 Henry ruined OUAT. Honestly the show was great until Henry's dad died. The show went to shit after that. Even before then August and Graham shouldn't have died. Robin shouldn't have died either.

I’m watching the season three finale and Emma used the black fairy’s wand which rumple said can enact any type of magic that was casted before.Emma opened a time travel portal back to the present. If that was the case season seven Emma could’ve sent them back to the present Instead of them doing whatever they did.

Is that true or not? I don’t know if Regina, Zelena or anyone else ripped a person’s heart out that wasn’t in the enchanted forest.

I enjoyed the show pretty much..I was looking for season 7 and I noticed that it's not very likeable by the community..should I give it a try or should I keep season 6 ending in my head?

I mean seriously. Lana actually resembled, acted and sounded like Ursula when she played the part. Merrin didn't even act or dress like Ursula. She was basically just Evil Ariel.

So does "our world" (the Land without Magic we're advertised to believe is our world) have story tales about all of the things/characters in the other worlds? Is NYC just another world populated by background people that don't know about magic? Can just a random person in NYC find random ways to get to like, Storybrooke and Neverland ect? Do all worlds have stories about each other? If we introduced a character from Wonderland to someone in NYC would they freak out cause Alice is REAL? Does everyone in the show KNOW there's worlds in other stories about them?

I can only feel sane if we say the the people in NYC are exactly the same as the unnamed villagers in the Enchanted Forest, and no one in the show knows stories about anyone cannon.

Please tell me I haven't been fully driven insane by this show.

Maybe this question already been asked but I’m new here :)

In S4, Killian asks Rumple to give him his hand back and Rumple says « this hand belongs to the man you were » aka a villain. Was it just a trick to manipulate Killian ? If not, why didn’t Killian ask for his hand back later ?

Even if what Rumple says is true, Killian had friends and Emma, people who could have helped him stay in the right path.

After all, he’s been the dark one, so is his hand really that powerful???

I do understand actors can act in other things but it’s just kinda fun to spot them. Ashley was also in an episode.

I’m going through a rewatch. I only watched the once and I’m the beginning of s2.

Regina and David are constantly at each other’s throats, and I feel like they actually had the potential to be a “enemies to lovers” couple. The actors have good chemistry as well.

I’m not in the fandom, so genuine question, is the David/Regina (whatever their ship name is) pairing popular?

I only know about captain swan and I never cared much about Hook.

S1 E12 “Skin deep”, there’s a scene where Rumple releases Belle and she calls him a coward (where she mentions he’ll have an “empty heart and a chipped cup”) — there’s a song that plays in the background of this scene that’s been driving me crazy, any help would be appreciated!!

I mean, I get it that he had to die for Hook to take his place, coz if he lived, Hook would probably never ended up with Emma, but still, I kinda feel that his death was such a waste of good character potential. And, ngl, such a loss of a hellishly hot character 😭

Henry was adopted and grew up as Regina's son and during that time he went to school with other children, if only he ages what about his classmates? and won't they have to pass in the next grade, wouldn't it be obvious they don't age while Henry grows ? This plothote is just glaring. Also if not one kid ages wouldn't be so easy with pictures to prove the curse is real?

sorry... but i can't unsee it every time they have a scene together :)

Had this done recently and thought I should share.

(I didn’t know how else to put it but “dragged out” is not ideal wording) Sorry not sorry & I might get downvoted for this, but is it just me or does it at some point get annoying that Emma says she’s the savior and she’s got to fix EVERYTHING and everyone around her is like “yeah that checks out”. Like give the woman a break.

She was the savior of the first curse. She was meant to break THAT curse, she’s not meant to fix literally everything else, but there are so many times, like for example season 4 with Elsa, that she’s saying “well, I’m the savior” in the most depressed tone ever, like she doesn’t even like it and I understand that. It’s a huge burden, but it’s mostly she (and her parents I guess? & hook and Neal who brought her back from New York) who puts it on her, like nobody else in town is expecting her to fix everything.

There is not one single citizen who’s come up to Emma like “you’re our savior”. Honestly this just pops in my mind, but her pressure would’ve made more sense if the town had started comparing her to Jesus or something.

Curse breaking ≠ being a savior, but she still isn’t forced to fix everyone’s problems if it makes her this depressed. Girl needs to take care of herself she looks so tired in the end & I can’t blame her🥹

When Regina split herself in s6, without the Evil Queen inside of her, she should've been more like who she was in the Stable Boy episode- hopeless romantic/scared of her mother/"weak".

Regina herself doesn't seem to change that much after the split. We get some moments where she questions her strength- sure- but there should've been a more drastic change: who she was before the darkness vs after.

Then her big self love episode should've been her merging her two selves back together and finally accepting herself.

This plotline erases a lot of the nuance behind Regina's character, but I feel "regressing" Regina back to her 18 year old self would provide for a more interesting plot where she realizes she isn't who she is wo the evil queen.

I just learned some babies can retain certain memories even as they grow older.

Meaning, it's highly possible baby Henry could remember Regina taking him to her vault, drinking a forgetting potion, and telling him about the curse like it was a bedtime story.

Can you imagine pre s1/s1 Henry in Archie's office like "when I was a baby she took me to her evil secret lair and told me her grand master scheme!!"

And the fact that Regina wouldn't have remembered any of this, so if Archie brought it up, she would've been genuinely clueless.

Maybe I made this post bc Save Henry always makes me emotional and I needed something more cracked out to think about this episode lol.

I’m surprised Cora never knew about lake nostros and just used it putting it in Regina’s drink when she wasn’t looking.

I may be misremembering but I don't think we've ever seen fairies teleport in the show with the cloud of smoke and everything. They seem to be flying everywhere they go which is odd since they're magical creatures. Tell me if it did happen and I just don't remember but in case it's not shown, do you guys think they can? If not, what could be the reason for it?

Like which group of fans of the show were in the most pain while it aired?

Mine is cora. I adore her and love her backstory, wish we could explore how she became queen of hearts though.

Cred to Luvbriah for the idea. It was fun to read everyones answer and reasons in the other thread so thougt it be fun to do another.

Sometimes the writing was so bad that I just ignore it when I think about the characters. As far as I'm concerned:

The Charmings taking Maleficent's baby

Belle taking back Rumplestiltskin for the last time

The Evil Queen's physical relationship with Rumplestiltskin

Cora getting a happy ending

None of the above happened. I do like some of the things that happened in the later seasons, but I mostly focus on the first three seasons.

The simple answer are the consequences of those actions and the effect that it had on its victims. Regina was using Graham heart to have sex with him against his will and deep down he knew he did not want that before, while and after the act, bringing him much more pain.

Snow and Prince I do not even need to talk about, Maleficent simply lost 30 years of her daughter life because of others, and the baby was even cursed to be inherently a trouble-maker and unhappy.

Zelena otherwise did a bad thing, but she did not inflect pain on Robin for pretending be Marion except being far from Regina, first because he "chose" (be careful how you read that) and was not forced to do it, and after he realize what he did he did not seen to carry any trauma or pain and all his unhappiness came from being apart from Regina, not from being rped. Especially compared to what Mayor Regina did, just because both are rpe and bad things people treat like is the same thing with the same consequences but it's not just because they actions have the same name. And please do not take it as justifying.

I first thought about how Henry technically never met Cora and Peter Pan never met the black fairy after their transformations. It could have been awesome is Peter Pan met the black fairy and they see what they did to their son together. What other characters should have met but didn’t?