/r/Nonviolence

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A subreddit devoted to nonviolence. At this momentous time in which nonviolent revolution is showing that it is possible, all the more reason to explore, share and discuss this important issue. This subreddit is devoted to:

  • nonviolence
  • theory and philosophy of nonviolence
  • reactive nonviolence (resistance, revolution)
  • positive nonviolence (identifying existing violences, ameliorating, e.g., in the criminal justice system)
  • politics of nonviolence
  • strategies and tactics
  • world events

/r/Nonviolence

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Different Approaches to Nonviolence

First time posting here. I don't see too many posts that aren't (re)sharing articles, so I hope this isn't out of place.

I came to a practice of nonviolence after beariny witness to acts of extreme violence. This ultimately lead me to such practices as feminism, veganism, and pacifism-- and ultimately nonviolence as taught in contemplative Christian and Buddhist traditions. To name a few inspirations, Thich Nhat Hanh, Martin Luther King Jr., Vaclav Havel, and some of my own mentors.

I am accustomed to nonviolence being an embodied practice that focuses on nonviolence in the mental and verbal spaces as well as in physical action. I am also accustomed to dialog with peers as being a formative part of the practice of nonviolence. Having living mirrors in which one's successes and shortcomings are reflected.

Most of the associated activism I have experience with is peaceful and in some sense passive. Civil disobedience but not violent action. Protest, sit in, public witnessing. It might involve tresspass, but not destruction of personal property, theft, violence to persons. No violent or degrading speech. A lot of work to keep clear of hateful and bitter emotions towards one's opponents.

In the last few years I am finding this approach seems to be a minority view. Groups I have been involved with seem to have a very different model. Destruction of property, violent speech, cancelling, harassing, etc. as part of nonviolent action and living.

People here have encouraged me that there are different approaches to nonviolence, and that mine is retrograde and outdated. What are the other visions of nonviolence?

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2024/04/30
05:48 UTC

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A general term for part of the violence being perpetrated by Israel in Palestine: rightience

Rightience.

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2024/02/21
03:04 UTC

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Florida nonviolence v St. Augustine slave market

Bloodiest, most state-violent 1960s SCLC - MLK nonviolence (& likely most effective economic boycott) struggle fought in St Augustine FL, the oldest "American" city & university. Literally through walks in & out its old-town tourist ("trap") slave market & beaches with the worst nationalist KKK & Catholic religious leaders. Which DeSantis is inciting again with his crusade against Disneyland, irregardless of Disney as economic power like NASA in the state future of Florida.

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2023/09/02
02:47 UTC

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MLK's talking about nonviolence?

I'm looking for audio recordings of MLK talking about nonviolence. Does anyone know of any speeches where he talks about the six principles of nonviolence? Or the four stages of a nonviolent campaign that he describes in Letter from Birmingham Jail? I've listened to many of his speeches on YouTube but only have a few good snippets. Thanks for any help.

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2023/07/23
03:06 UTC

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Leo Tolstoy's "Thou Shalt Not Kill" (1900) – An online reading group discussion on Wednesday June 14, open to everyone

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2023/06/11
21:12 UTC

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MAN VS. WOMEN (Equal Rights, Unfair Fights)

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2023/05/08
07:12 UTC

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If you adhere to faith-based nonviolent principles (of any background), do you feel that participating in non-striking martial arts is consistent with your ethic?

I have a background in the Evangelical friends / Orthodox Quakerism, and I still follow Jesus and want to adhere to his teachings on non-violence. But I’m interested in hearing from any backgrounds on this. I particularly enjoy judo and jiu jitsu as “gentle arts” and have found a gym that doesn’t use overly aggressive techniques and has a diverse array of student. Still, though, I have wondered about where there is something problematic in spending so much time around people who have an interest in things like UFC and MMA.

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2023/02/21
04:45 UTC

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On Tyre Nichols

The general rubric within which to understand this murder is cherry picking. It is not the go-to thing to think about in such cases, or in society at large, but I think it is the single largest category of what is responsible for a wide range of problems, virtually all of the problems in a way.

It shouldn't be hard to see just how the police taking Tyre down were cherry picking. All the stories about it will basically focus one what they police left out, which is the basic issue with cherry picking. One picks that one cherry they want, but it's not what we call "cherry picking" unless you're leaving out something else, either other "cherries" or other things. E.g., cherry picking in basketball is staying by the net so one can score more points, at the expense of helping others out in the court. Etc.

It is a task simply to go through all the kinds of cherry picking the cops likely engaged in. I won't do that here. The articles, however, will stress the various acts of the police, and these all amount to a charge of cherry picking one action over other, less violent actions.

The key element is that the topic of cherry picking as such should be developed into an interventional strategy with police departments. Trainees would have to generate lists and accounts of cherry picking from examples until they are versant in the concept of cherry picking. This would obviously be a part of a broader initiative and is a kind of subcategory of nonviolence/antiforce. The broader thinking and action (thoughtaction) ultimately draws into fundamental question the c/j system as a whole, but the heuristic value in the more immediate of the idea of cherry picking should be considered.

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2023/01/28
14:14 UTC

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Gandhi Substack

I started a Substack which focuses on Gandhi's life and lessons and ties them to self-improvement. The short posts often relate to something that happened on a certain date; here's one for January 20, the day in 1948 where there was a failed assassination attempt. https://30daygandhichallenge.substack.com/p/assassins-attack

This is one part of a larger Gandhian constructive program for holistic social, cultural, electoral, and political change in America. Nonviolent revolution is possible!

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2023/01/20
18:17 UTC

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Why is nonviolence always used as a metric for progress among modern historians?

Events of mass violence, or even disruptive events such as the black plague, leave things immeasurably better for the people that survive the aftermath. The Thirty Years War made Europe's quality of life higher and made the political economy more egalitarian. Real wages had the highest increase of all time following the black death. Humans - like all primates - will always overconsume their environment until Malthusian factors kick in. Like all primates, humans are also hyper-anxious of what is 'their' territory and personal space, which is why life gets better when tons of people disappear or die. Why then are modern historians so obsessed with metrics such as nonviolence when nonviolent polities are unsustainable for a long duration?

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2023/01/15
17:34 UTC

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Definitions of violence

The World Health Organization defines 'violence' as:

“the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, that either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment or deprivation”

I like this definition because it can reduce 'violence' into: "behavior which has the potential to cause harm", of which can exist either the physical or psychological dimension.

Other definitions characterize violence as being (1) 'behavior intended to cause harm' and/or (2) constrained to the physical realm only. What are your thoughts on these two modifiers? Is something only violent when one intends to cause harm? If so, what word can describe 'harm caused unintentionally'? Would you challenge that violence can only exist in the body, and not the mind?

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2022/12/22
00:04 UTC

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Short comment from elsewhere with a simple articulation of nonviolence/antiforce vis a vis Ukraine/Russia

(comment by /u/ravia in the post /r/worldnews/comments/zozql9/anyone_who_underestimates_russia_is_headed_for/)

Russia, not Ukraine, is poised to become the "underdog crawls out from overwhelming odds" hero, at least to itself and its mindless supporters internally. They have the time, money and lack of opposing political will to carry out an endless war, and Ukraine can't survive that, no matter how bravely they fight. Two winters could decimate them.

Ultimately, while I think Ukraine can win, I fear they won't. This would be the world's failure, really, due to the failure specifically of the thoughtful around the globe to develop and forward militant nonviolence, very specifically. Such nonviolence would shake the grip of Russia better and yield many fewer casualties, whether it be successful or not. Violence is not a guarantee of success, it must be stressed. A full national strike rooted in a developed will and thought/action of pure nonviolence (not diversity of tactics, which Russia would of course seize upon) would make Ukraine indominable and force Russia to retreat, after trying grisly measures, of course, which would make Russia world infamous.

This might seem ridiculous, but there are many elements of nonviolence, of Gandhian satyagraha, already in play in the current situation. They have mainly to do with with the brave, resolved suffering of the people, of men, women, children, the elderly and infirm. This constitutes a certain, definite power that is obscured by the fog of war. Nonviolence brings that power to the fore.

Perhaps most importantly, nonviolence, as a kind of antiforce, gets at what Putin is really defending: the use of force itself. Russians are the bad guys in many movies, and the narrative is always the same, and something we all know: force can't really work in the long run, and it can not love.

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2022/12/18
16:19 UTC

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isn't non violence basically self sacrifice for the enemy ?

Let's say there is massive human rights violations in a given place and non violent resistance is applied. What are the odds of it working ? Besides , why should one have the possibility of torture etc be imposed on them ?

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2022/12/12
21:23 UTC

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Nonviolent Communication

New here, sorry if it is already discussed. I was looking for a sub for Nonviolent Communication, as taught by Marshall Rosenberg. As a former political activist using techniques of nonviolent resistance, then finding Nonviolent Communication, I see quite a lot of differences between the two. And a lot of similarities as well: both are nonviolent, and both are aiming at social change. I would be happy to discuss both here if anyone is willing to join the discussion.

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2022/12/08
00:22 UTC

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Popular Entertainment revolves around violence

This is becoming more and more obvious and uncomfortable to me. It seems like there's no form of entertainment that does not involve some form of violence, most commonly physical, but emotional and psychological abuse is pretty common as well. Is it really possible to tell a story aimed at adults that doesn't revolve around beings harming each other in some way? Even Star Trek, which theoretically centers on the effort to find nonviolent solutions, almost inevitably ends with someone firing a hand phaser or a ship launching a torpedo spread at another ship to solve whatever problem is currently occuring.

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2022/10/24
21:36 UTC

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What is the most beautiful thing you have learned?

When it comes to your journey in life what is the most beautiful thing you have learned?

It could be a verse, a quote that really sums it all up or hits you in a profound way, or an experience, everything is open :)

But what is that one thing that really stands out and you felt the most close to the truth in hearing or experiencing or learning it? :)

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2022/08/05
01:32 UTC

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Items highly subsidized by the government are highlighted.

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2022/08/04
06:42 UTC

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2 good rebuttals by Brian Martin to the dreaded "what would you have done against the Nazis?" question proponents of nonviolence are always asked.

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2022/07/26
09:18 UTC

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Violent Sports.

If you participate in sports such as wrestling or fencing, would that be considered violent?

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2022/07/25
09:51 UTC

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An example of enconstruction

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2022/07/20
13:36 UTC

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